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Solid Strike Black Star - Review

Feb 23, 2015
by Paul Aston  
Solid Strike Black Star review test

Solid have been around for quite some time in Europe, but a recent overhaul has seen them cutting down their range and joining the direct-sale snowball rolling out of Germany. Their 204mm travel Strike Black Star downhill bike is all-new for 2015 and appears to be an impressively priced machine that's spec'd with a BoXXer World Cup fork, a Cane Creek Double Barrel shock, and a SRAM X01 DH drivetrain for €3,680 (approximately $4,222 USD). The rest of the build includes bits from Solid's sister company, Reverse, including their wheelset and a carbon handlebar and seat post, that help to keep the price reasonable. The Black Star is a limited edition model that Solid has only planned to assemble two hundred of, so you best not hesitate if the bike's asking price has you interested.



Strike Black Star Details

• Intended use: downhill
• Rear wheel travel: 200mm
• Wheel size: 27.5"
• Centre Force Suspension
• Full 7005 aluminium frame
• ISCG chain guide tabs
• RockShox BoXXer World Cup / Cane Creek DB Coil
• SRAM X01 DH drivetrain
• Adjustable geometry and wheelbase
• Weight: 35.9lb
• MSRP: €3680
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Solid Strike Black Star review
  Clockwise from left: Reverse Fastlane DM stem. The extra wide 150mm hub flanges and 7-speed cassette. Please go downhill riding. Neat, bolt-on cable routing.


Frame Details

Solid has used aluminum front to back to build the Strike frame - you won't find any carbon here - with a set of nicely machined rocker links and an integrated 49mm/56mm head tube. The bottom bracket is 83mm wide to match the bike's 150mm axle spacing, and the chain guide mounts to the older style ISCG tabs around the shell. Cable routing is very clean, despite it being mostly external save for where the rear shift housing disappears into the chain stay, which should make life easier for your mechanic when you need some work done. The 150mm wide dropouts are adjustable to offer either a 438mm or 448mm chain stay length, although a 27.5'' wheel will only fit in the longer setting, while a 26'' option will fit both. Solid has also hidden a rear derailleur hanger on the lower link, so it's always there if you need it.

Solid Strike BlackStar review
  Note the neatly located derailleur hanger on the lower linkage.


The Strike's sizing might be a bit confusing for some due to the S/M, M/L and L/XL nomenclature, with it not being super clear for a rider who's used to automatically reaching for a medium or large sized bike. Solid says that their approach stems from making the reach of the Strike longer compared to their older models, and that an S/M isn't really a small sized bike in the traditional sense - it might fit some riders more like a medium would. The company does provide a load of information on their website when it comes sizing and setup, and even though they only do direct sales, you could probably glean more from this than some shop staff. Solid also configure the shock settings to your weight so you won't have to go out and buy a new spring right off the bat.

Solid Strike BlackStar review
  Two short links compress the Cane Creek shock from both ends to deliver 204mm of travel.

The Strike's Suspension Explained

The Strike's swingarm is connected to the front triangle by two burly looking links, and the 'Centre Force Suspension' system takes its name from how Solid claims that it centralizes the forces applied to the frame. The assertion is that the compression force from the shock pushing upwards, and force of the upper link rotating and pushing back down compensate each other rather than feed those forces back into the frame. Maybe they should have named it Compensation Force Suspension? In simpler terms, forces coming from the front of the bike through the top tube are being pushed down in to the top shock mount.

Solid says that there's a moderate amount of ramp-up through the majority of the travel, but that once it reaches 194mm it ramps-up so significantly that it's nearly impossible to bottom out. The linkage configuration, combined with the needle bearings in the Cane Creek Double Barrel's eyelets, makes for incredibly supple action with next to zero break-away resistance at the start of the stroke.




Components:
Specifications
Price $4171
Travel 204mm
Rear Shock CANE CREEK Double Barrel Coil, 240/76 mm
Fork ROCK SHOX BOXXER World Cup 2015 27,5"
Headset REVERSE Twister 1.5-1.125"
Cassette REVERSE Cassette DH-7/10 11-12-13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25t
Crankarms SRAM XO1-DH 34T with bashguard, carbon, black
Chainguide REVERSE X1-RB MINI ISCG black
Bottom Bracket SRAM
Chain SRAM PC1170, 11x
Shifter Pods SRAM Trigger XO1 DH black
Handlebar REVERSE RCC-810 carbon
Stem REVERSE Fast Lane direct mount
Grips REVERSE Stamp black
Brakes Magura MT-7, 203 mm
Hubs REVERSE EVO-9 Disc Pro
Spokes SAPIM D-Light
Rim REVERSE 650B DH, yellow, 32 h
Tires Schwalbe Magic Mary SG, 27.5x2,35"
Seat REVERSE Fort Will black-yellow
Seatpost REVERSE RCC 309, carbon






Suspension and Handling

Anybody could guess from the geometry numbers that the stretched out Strike is going to be one hell of a stable beast, and the generously sized front end is the best fitting downhill bike to date for my lanky size. That said, it still doesn't feel as roomy as some of the contemporary enduro bikes out there that are so comfortable, and I wouldn't argue against even more length up front. The Strike is all about stability at speed, with its long wheelbase making for an impressively sure-footed ride when moving quick and when tracking over rough or off-camber ground. Mind those pedals, though, as I snagged them more often than I have when on different machines. The more speed you have, the more speed and fun you'll find when on the Strike, but the bike is a handful compared to other downhill rigs when things get tight. Yes, it can be ridden just as fast though mega tight sections, but it'll take more effort than some other bikes would ask of a rider. I don't feel that is going to be much of a hindrance for a skilled racer, but smaller riders, or those poking along at slower speeds, might find it difficult to put the wheels where they need to be on occasion.

The Strike has a first-class rear end that simply works well. So well, in fact, that it overshadowed the BoXXer's performance. We've had plenty of time on the new Charger-equipped BoXXer World Cup, nearly all of it without complaint, but this particular fork gets out of depth before the more controlled damping characteristics of the Double Barrel, and the CFS system that seemed to keep its composure longer than the front. I did drop in a few tokens to match the fork's ramp-up to the very progressive rear suspension, and that went a long way towards creating a more balanced ride.

Solid Strike BlackStar review
  Traction from the sticky tires and supple suspension meant that grip was never an issue.


There's nothing much to differentiate this bike from any other downhill rig in the air. It offers what you would hope for: stability and no untoward bucking or kicking when heading skywards from booters. Being the ground-hugger it is, it's not super poppy. That means that you won't be winning any boost competitions at the local jumps, and you'll need a decent sized sender to unnerve the gyroscopic motion of heavy-duty downhill wheels and the huge distance between them to get it fully sideways and back. The low slung and centralized weight sits directly between your feet, keeping the bikes centre of gravity in this area aids control when riding in to deflective terrain like crooked roots and angled rock. Kind of in the same way a Weeble wobbles but never falls down. This weight location also helps in corner and camber, helping you transfer more of the bike's mass into traction via the pedals under your feet.

Lousa, Portugal, has some gnarly and full-on downhill tracks, but it felt like none of them were wide open enough to really let the big Strike sing. It often felt like I was struggling to get enough speed to have the bike working at a level where it would feel more alive and spritely, but the tracks just weren't rough or fast enough to really light the bike up. That's saying something, though, because Lousa isn't short on rough, rocky terrain. It is going to take some big trails and big speeds to really feel the Strike in its element, and it's a bike best suited for serious tasks rather than smooth ''flow trails''.



Technical Report

• The four piston Magura MT-7 brakes offer a huge amount of power, and I liked the continual modulation from the lever. Power is nothing without control, and while Magura has always been lacking in the former and kings of the latter when it comes to their two piston offerings, they've managed to combine both attributes in the positively awesome MT-7 brake.

• Grip-wise, the Magic Mary tire is unbelievable when your pointing down something steep, loose and soft, and they still offer great control on compact surfaces like rocks and roots. The price for that traction is very poor rolling speed, but that's how it goes.

• SRAM's 7-speed X01 DH drivetrain is a great concept for pure racing, but if you have to pedal it around to and from your pick-up point or lift it can wear you down quickly. No surprise there given its focus, though.

• No problems to report with any of the Reverse products, and the carbon handlebar and seat post are a nice touch for the bike's price. The wheelset stayed true as well, and there's no dings or dents to complain about.


Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesDoes the Strike Black Star have the best price-to-capability ratio on the market? Possibly, but you will want some big mountains and preferably a chairlift nearby. For a reasonable amount of money you could take this to a World Cup and put in a solid time, and for any privateers the money left over could go a long way towards the rest of the mounting bills. The Strike is big machine and is spec'd ready to take on the best at half the price of some of the competition. It's not carbon, but the competitive weight, geometry and component choice only suggests doing one thing: going fast. The only problem is that like an F1 car that needs a certain amount of speed (which is a lot) to create downforce and start gripping, you need some serious speed and gradient to get the Strike into its element. - Paul Aston



View additional high-res images in the gallery




MENTIONS: @solidbikes @schwalbe @SramMedia @MaguraPassionPeople


This bike was tested using a shuttle service in Lousa, Portugal. We'd like to give a big thanks to Brett Wheeler and his company Wheelers Mtb Holidays for helping us out and showing us the trails - Check out their Facebook page here.



About the Reviewer
The latest addition to the Pinkbike Technical team, Paul Aston is a racer and dirt-jumper at heart. Previously competing in World Cup DH, now he's attacking Enduro and has been since before it was fashionable. Based in the UK, but often found residing in mainland Europe allows him to experience a huge variety of terrains and trails.Stats: Age: 29 • Height: 6'1” • Ape Index: +4" • Weight: 161lb • Industry affiliations / sponsors: Rockwell Watches


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177 Comments
  • 995
 Along with the recent YT DH bike, it's great to see another nicely spec'd high end DH bike that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. The Specialized Demo will be quite jealous of those properly lengthened long chainstays when it comes to World Cup DH tracks.
  • 815
flag jaame (Feb 23, 2015 at 1:39) (Below Threshold)
 I had a few goes on a brand new demo back to back with the0original sample canfield jedi today. The demo won in looks and back wheel bounce over roots. THe canfield won in being heavy and keeping the wheels on the ground. If I had to choose on a rough track with no chain necessary, I'd go canfield every time.
  • 235
 Agreed - but I'd still take the TUES CF Pro over this at just €319 more. That bike is just without competition!
  • 191
 unsure on that @nygaard- there are still people who i am talking to that are preferring the alu opposed to carbon option and (some) are not a fan of the BOS. This may well be for them, for this price coming equipped with a Boxxer WC and CCDB is a bargain.
  • 72
 @sewer-rat, if their after aluminum, YT have that base covered too, with the TuesAL... They cater for everyone, and, provided that they can keep up with demand, they seem to have effectively sewn up the DH bike market! I can't wait to see how they expand, grow, and flourish!
  • 132
 They're*
  • 54
 @sewer-rat - Then go for one of YT's top-end TUES aluminium models with either Rock Shox or Marzocchi suspension and SAVE between €381-781.

I'm not saying that the Solid isn't a great looking bike for it's price. Just that YT is (at this point) doing an even better job Wink
  • 43
 If ppl want a YT, buy one. I certainly didn't and thus bought a Strike. It's not like online direct and the YT hype means that only YT is a serious offer. FWIW, the geo for the carbon YT is extremely similar to the geo for the Strike, with the HA and CS being the notable differences (and the subsequent wheelbase this yields). The suspension behavior will still make the rides different, however (and ofc the inherent stability increase from the differences that still exist in geo).
  • 60
 You had me at the Cane Creek DB....Nice pricetag as well...
  • 725
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 23, 2015 at 8:39) (Below Threshold)
 yt is crap compared to this for suspension desighn , i have a feeling solid has been wroking on the bike alot longer than yt has been ..... i do prefer the bos suspension tho , hard to check all the boxes with me :p
  • 31
 It gets better @preach - the bike linkage is ideal with a CCDB even. Check out linkagedesign.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/solid-strike-dh-2014.html for some more details (parts are in English - the rest is for Google Translate if you need).
  • 21
 I'm sure you can get a BOS on it instead (additional cost, sure) if you ask them @wuzupjosh - they seem to have them on some of the WC bikes already (Solid's FB profile pic): www.facebook.com/ridesolid/photos/a.428073316985.233937.134207501985/10152560412491986/?type=1
  • 228
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 23, 2015 at 8:49) (Below Threshold)
 im not buying one , have a sponsorship with another company , this would be a close second tho :p , i can never buy a full bike l, theres too much crap i dont want , #shimano
  • 21
 Fair enough! We all want what we have good experience with (and get for free) Smile
  • 13
 The new demos chainstays are only 5mm shorter than the new wilson
  • 213
flag rickaybobbay (Feb 23, 2015 at 13:21) (Below Threshold)
 @jaame you're just a load of stupidity aren't you. the demo is nothing compared to the jedi.
  • 52
 Thanks! What I said was, the demo looks better and is lighter, and the canfield works better.
  • 20
 Linkage analysis comparing the Strike with the 2015 V10 and 2015 Pivot bikes: linkagedesign.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/santa-cruz-v10-275-2015.html (google translate is your friend if you can't read the data in the diagram to draw your own conclusions)
  • 760
 The spare hanger is such a clever little detail. This should become norm.
  • 36
 It comes with an expensive hydraulic and tuneable mudguard.
  • 40
 I can't see the connection between a spare mech hanger and the shock?
  • 322
 Looks like a backwards Gambler. Maybe call it the Saver?
  • 170
 The Solid Risk Averse doesn't have the same ring to it I feel....
  • 51
 The penny pincher?
  • 170
 Solid Scrimper sounds ok actually....
  • 20
 i would call it a relbmag
  • 20
 Solid Cooler would actually be a good and fun dig at Scott
  • 30
 Solid Scrooge ?
  • 40
 The Solid Fold. It never raises you.
  • 40
 The Solid Sensible Spender
  • 329
 The shock isn't floating and driven from both ends, it's fixed to the frame at the top.

Two counter-rotating links, aka a VPP copy.

So good with square edged hits, but pedals badly.

Journalism, how hard can it be?
  • 52
 You'd think GCSE English would be a requirement but apparently not. It's a shame because I like Paul Aston's articles.
  • 40
 Yeah top link pivots around the shock eyelet but doesn't look like there's any compression going on.
  • 32
 @continuity Aston is currently on Madeira Island, but as sent the revisions - just as a note he never said it was a floating linkage, let's put it down to some 'lost in translation' during editing. Hope it's a bit clearer now!
  • 90
 The type of suspension has nothing to do with how it will handle square edged hits. It's the leverage and the axle path and that may be very different under the same system
  • 180
 @continuity
VPP designs does not pedal badly.

The top link VPP SC/Intense bikes are however notorious for their mid stroke wallow, but that is a different sack of beans all together. This design is quite similar to the current V10 yes, but with some differences that will make em feel a bit different.

All virtual pivot point designs - including DW link, Maestro and quite a few other linkage designs, all have a virtual pivot point, meaning a pivot point that changes depending on where one is in the travel - so while your comment probably only directly talked about SC/Intense bikes the other vpp designs are some of the more pedal friendly designs out there.

balanced and insightful commentary/critique - how hard can it be?

and there seems to be a lot of critique aka negativity for minor mistakes in the article. A bit uncalled for perhaps?
  • 30
 top link DRIVEN VPP SC/Intense bikes , a word missing above. I meant to say SC/I VPP designs where the shock is driven by the top link
  • 51
 There's really not much similarity between this and a VPP bike other than the orientation in which the links rotate. Anyone who's ridden one can certainly feel the difference. There'sThere's really much more to a linkage than how many links it has...
  • 10
 Are you guys sure that as the rear triangle pivots up and forward, that top link doesn't pull down on the frame and therefor the shock as well? Look at the forward pivot point of the top link.
  • 40
 Naw, you can see from the size of the bearings at the shock eyelet that it is clearly a pivot point. The forward 'pivot' looks far more like a bolthead to brace the two linkages together. If it was a pivot, we'd see a bearing there and a bushing at the shock eye.
  • 15
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 23, 2015 at 8:42) (Below Threshold)
 im pretty sure this thing is alot different than a santacruz, giants sucks and m9s are great , your basiclly grouping the suspension desighn on the rear triangle being one peice at the moment ....i do agree tho , sc/intense dont pedal so great in my opinion , after owning a dw link you tend to fall away from most things
  • 20
 @continuity linkagedesign.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/solid-strike-dh-2014.html ... bike actually pedals quite well according to the kinematics.
  • 10
 looks like it has too much antisquat late in the curve? seems to me

obviously I mean VPP as in the patent "VPP" as used by sc/intense i.e. two counter rotating short links creating a vpp

as opposed to two parallel link i.e. giant / dw e.t.c

I thought that counter rotating short links generally give a rearward axle path? correct me if im wrong?
  • 41
 Brace yourselfs, antisquat discussion incoming in 3,2,1... -.-
  • 10
 .... 2 hours later
  • 21
 I agree it's like a vpp. About not pedaling well...vpp are the most efficient pedallers out there. Going from specy big hit to intense m9, boy i can feel the differences
  • 11
 @continuity Lower AS % will help with pedal feedback.
  • 221
 ANGRY COMMENT ABOUT WHEEL SIZE AND SUSPENSION DESIGN.
  • 191
 STATEMENT BLAMING ENDURO AND BIKE BRAND MARKETING CONSPIRACIES
  • 340
 A BIG DUCK IS EATING MY CARBON HOUSE
  • 32
 NORBS GOT ROBBED! #NODURO #THISMAKESNOSENSE
  • 43
 EVERY PEDAL STROKE WILL SLOW YOU DOWN
  • 201
 that cane creek doesn't get compressed from both ends, its fixed to the seat tube.. sick bike though
  • 10
 Yup, was thinking tha same. Reminds me of a vpp, with that short link down there. Similar to my intense m9
  • 132
 That hub though! 7 speed freehub body with extra wide flanges, none of that deadspace-spacer nonsense. Nice touch with the hanger also. Otherwise kind of meh..
  • 49
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 23, 2015 at 8:43) (Below Threshold)
 i think thats rediculous , our stuck with the reverse cassete now? if theyre making theyre own cassete and hubs then they should mayble try a 10 t or 9t evan , bmx has 9t on everything with a 14mm axle , i dont see why they cant do it for mtb
  • 40
 @wuzupjosh just take a 10sp cassette and remove the 3 bigger cogs.
  • 47
 i already do , i want a damn 9t!!!
  • 20
 I agree with josh the whole advantage of the xo dh set up is to have a 10 tooth cog. It is super easy to make cheap reliable 7 speed set up just using a zee drive train. I really like the wide hub made specifically for a 7spd cassette but missed the mark by not adding option to run smaller cogs.
  • 10
 Mine came this week and has come with XO 7 speed cassette, but some other have been coming with different reverse ones....
  • 10
 So yours came with an xo hub?
  • 10
 It has come with the 7speed XO cassette . Another one has come with Reverse's new 7 spd hub and their 7 speed cassette. Where as mine has come with Reverse's evo 9 hubs............
  • 10
 I was under the impression that the xo dh cassette would only work with the xd, driver body. Which I do not think the Evo 9 is.
  • 10
 Hmmm just looked into it, you're right according to the SRAM website.....unless they have used the XD driver body on the Reverse hub. It is definately an XO cassette though...

www.pinkbike.com/photo/11942073

www.pinkbike.com/photo/11942070
  • 12
 your hub looks diifeerent too tho ?^
  • 10
 This is the hub I have, but they also do a 7 speed specific one if you look on the menu on the left.

www.reverse-components.com/shop/en/11-REVERSE-Nabe-EVO-9-Disc-HR-150/12mm-32H-Black-Rear-Hub-305g
  • 10
 That's pretty weird. Either way u are stoked you ended up with that. Maybe they did a special run of xd compatible hus for the first bikes and switched over because of cost.
  • 20
 The new reverse 7speed hub is similar to the hope trails hub. Has standard fitting cassette but not as wide so only accepts 7 cogs not the full 10. As said above you can put standard 11-36t and just not fit 3 largest cogs, or pick 7 out of the 10 in the 10speed dh one. The problem with a 9t is that it isn't very efficient at driving the rear wheel, also puts larger stress into chain. BMX racers don't use 9t or even 11t but larger cogs on back as more efficient and less stress in chain.
  • 31
 Whats the point of 9 tooth cog on 7speed cluster for downhill? Just run a larger front ring! The point of 9t is to add range and for 1X, the advantages in dh are nill compared to the disadvantages of running a cog that small.
  • 10
 thats exactly why ! smaller ring in the front means more clearance allowing for lower bb .. sorta ive hit my ring enough tiimes to know i want it . ,
  • 10
 9t runs like shit though, as it is 10 is pushing it, and if you rode mostly in 10 you'd be getting chain/cog wear and slippage in a short while. 9t bmx drivers don't last 6 months until they're dead.
  • 24
 ive ran the same wheels on my bmx for 3 years bud, your fulla shiyt ,and its usuualy the bearing that crap out cuz bmx brands dont know how to make decent shit ... compared to mtb anyway ... and thats IF you ran only in 10 t , the same goes for 9 , you just have to put your der. beind the cassette a bit more . and on mtb i change my chain , cassette like every motnh or so on my race bike , i wouldnt be too hurt
  • 131
 I'm still trying to understand why angry people have nipples.
  • 61
 I'm still trying to understand why men even have nipples
  • 22
 I know why frozen chickens don't have nipples. It's a stRting point i think?
  • 111
 what I really want to know is why Adam and Eve have bellybuttons
  • 11
 "RIDE FUUUUUCKING DUWNHILL" lol
  • 121
 I like aluminium bikes Smile
  • 70
 I now have about 6 months of very intense use with my Strike and I agree with 99% of this review, except the "ground huger that doesn´t like to jump high". That depends on your shock/fork settings but I found it to have more "pop" than most full-on DH bikes out there...
On tighter tracks, yes, it´s like steering a limousine Smile
  • 20
 Couldn´t agree more! If a bike doesn´t jump well, adjust your damn shock settings!
On bigger jumps the strike is one of the best jump bikes i have been on!
On smaller jumps, it´s still up there with the best, but due to it´s it length requires a little more rider input.
  • 312
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 23, 2015 at 8:44) (Below Threshold)
 who the hell wants theyre dh bike to jump anyway ? if your going fast you really wanna stick tpo the ground .... i have a feeling you can still pop in and out of roc gardens tho ....
  • 120
 26' compatible, yes
  • 70
 Right! One of the few companies that actually "get it" bravo. Options is what it's about not dedicated change that doesn't suit everyone.
This brand would get my cash.
  • 20
 Couldn't have word it better. 'Options'
  • 30
 I'm sure that 26'' wheels and 438mm chainstays will make it a LOT more nimble suited to tight tracks if the clock isnt the absolute priority
  • 10
 To add a bit more options, you can run the bike with 27.5" wheels in the 438mm chainstay if you also use the 26" bottom bracket height. That preserves the balance, but increases the head angle to 63 degrees. It would be interesting to see the numbers and compare geo with the YT for instance in that setting... The suspension designer does not recommend this setting for any shock though, but for the CCDB and Moto it can be used. He prefers the longer chainstay setting himself though, but again... options... One of their WC riders forced him to design a shorter chainstay option also, so I guess it can be useful in some WC courses even.
  • 10
 'any shock' should have been 'all shocks'
  • 10
 trasselkalle, with 438mm chainstay and 27.5'' wheels isn't there a problem like tyre hitting the rear shock at full compression?
If not then why not officially recommend it?
  • 10
 Nope - no problem with that @gapos999 and they make no secret of this option. They just believe the bike rides better with the longer CS and thus suggest that. This is in line with the first (and most popular) comment above also, i.e. many prefer a bit longer CS rather than ultra-short. In the shorter CS, the bottom bracket becomes higher than they prefer to ride as default. The link designer (Matthias) comments (in English - rest can be google translated if interested) over at linkagedesign.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/solid-strike-dh-2014.html if you are interested.
  • 20
 I have this bike and tried the shorter chain stay option. It infacts smashes the shit out of the piggy back. So please anyone with this bike do not try the shorter chain stay option with 27.5. The longer chain stay option is perfect
  • 10
 What shock do you have @Wheelersmtbholidays ? I was told it would be ok as long as you moved to the higher BB height also.
  • 20
 The reason why I ask is that Matthias (the designer) has noted (in my earlier comment) that "...officially the shorter chainstays can be used on 26" wheels only - in the end you can run 650B as well in the short adjustment if the shock reservoir is not too big."
  • 10
 I run the vivid air. We had matthias out here with us last month and informed me that it shouldn't be run in the short chain stay option. The flip chips also state which wheel option to run it in
  • 10
 There's your problem @Wheelersmtbholidays - the Vivid Air is too big. The only two that I know Matthias has confirmed will work in the shorter CS are the CCDB and the Moto. The flip chart only states what is official, but as you can see in the links that I have provided - he also says that inoficially, you can run the CCDB and Moto in the shorter CS. It's easy to see how much bigger the Vivid Air is if you look at www.solidbikes.de/media/images/org/68603_1.jpg and compare with www.solidbikes.de/media/images/org/68660_1.jpg
  • 10
 The piggy back is what hits and not the lower air chamber. And they are practically the same on both. For everyone its best to keep it in the long cs. Not everyone will run the ccdb and moto
  • 10
 I agree with you on that @Wheelersmtbholidays - there is a reason why Solid chose a longer CS. I'm certainly going to use it in the long mode. I am stressing that it is only for the ccdb and moto that Matthias has said the shorter CS works. No other shock.
  • 20
 Just an update: it wasn't quite as I had interpreted things. It was a former rider that asked for the shorter mode, not the current ones. Testing that Solid did showed that the longer CS was faster for all, even in situations where the shorter CS mode made riders sometimes feel as if they were going faster. I guess closer to the limit is easy to confuse with faster. In essense, there's no real reason to ride with anything but the longer CS.
  • 10
 ^^ unless you like or ride/race on more jumpy type trails. Not everybody needs/wants the same thing from a bike. Just sayin.^^
  • 100
 should be getting mine any day now, cant wait!!
  • 325
flag whitebullit (Feb 23, 2015 at 0:54) (Below Threshold)
 good luck, it doesnt come out til april.
  • 120
 Next batch doesn't come out until April, all the people who ordered them at an even better price back I'm Autumn/fall are starting to get theirs now.
  • 110
 ordered in September with an even better deal, shipped out last week, due today/tomorrow
  • 223
flag whitebullit (Feb 23, 2015 at 5:21) (Below Threshold)
 yeah but that means youve been waiting almost 6 months on it. that sucks.
  • 250
 Well when you pre-order something you usually expect to have to wait until they're released...
  • 20
 I waited a whole month + some X-mas holiday time. Pretty good for something that also got built according to my exact spec I wanted...
  • 91
 Please go downhill riding.
  • 101
 Pretty sure if the Canadian border police saw that label they'd turn you away for a lack of politeness. That could definitely offend someone.
  • 142
 who in a world can possibly get offended by that sticker, if i may ask? people that ride f*cking uphill?
  • 30
 I like the rise of the enduro riding because downhill bikes and gear might get cheaper Big Grin
  • 20
 Hah, don't hold your breath @Morka...
  • 60
 One of these was ridden to victory at a local race last wekend. Garlicki beat Needles on his Polygon into second place.
  • 60
 Wow. Those wheels are so far apart they look like 26s.
  • 50
 That extra der hanger is GENIUS! Every bike should work that into their frames.
  • 21
 Is it a 7 speed x01? is it not a normal cut down cassette running on a shorter freehub body. need to do some research before you write-
www.reverse-components.com/shop/en/Reverse-Hub-DH-7-EFS-Equal-Flange-System-with-7-Speed-freehub-150/12mm
  • 30
 Again, Aston is on Madeira Island but says he took the spec list directly from the Solid Website - he did check it a few days ago but it has since been updated! The spec list has now been updated - keen eyes.
  • 31
 it uses a 10 speed cassestte cut down to 7 speed as in the big picture above in the test on the efs hub. bit hard to miss and to me is a far better design than a 7 speed x01 cassette on an xd driver.. In the article is described as a 7speed x01 but its not its a cut down 10 speed x01 which doesn't have any know wear problems as uses standard cassette at a fraction of price.. The spec still has the wrong hub its the dh7 efs..
  • 11
 the cassette, can be run with 10 or 7 speed, so it's comprehensible

he is really enjoying Portugal, spent some time on lousa on the mainland and i think is the second time this year that he is on Madeira?
  • 10
 you pick 7 out of the 10 cogs to use, you pick ratios you want. Its 7speed or less only..
  • 50
 I guess its a "solid" looking bike
ill show myself out
  • 10
 Few points here...

Web link takes you to solidbikes.com - Should be solidbikes.de
You say it's a 7sp X01 cassette, but the spec sheet above lists 10 speeds...
Is it 150mm axle width, or flange spacing?
Is it 204 or 194mm travel? Both are mentioned...

In other news this is an epic price for an incredibly well specced DH bike, it's almost worth it just for spare parts! Let's hope other manufacturers take notice and follow suit.
  • 70
 Upon closer inspection it ships with 10 speeds, you pick which 7 you'd like to run, it won't ship with magic mary's due to supply shortage, and most importantly shipping to North America isn't an option, also, expect lead times of 90-120 days before you actually see one. It's not all sunshine and rainbows.
  • 10
 Just some more details to your comment: It DOES ship with SRAM-7-speed gear shifters. Only the cassette is not the standard-SRAM-product: You will be riding on 7 speeds, but in the package, there are 3 more cogs included, enabling you to change your gear ratio to your needs. This is a plus in my eyes.
Since Schwalbe wasn't able to deliver orders from last summer, Solid were forced to purchase Maxxis tires. So currently the Strikes are shipped with High-Roller 2 or Minion DHF or Minion DHR II (27,5"x2.5", dual ply casing, 42a rubber (super tacky)). These tires can easily compete with Schwalbe, both manufacturers do great tires.
Currently, the lead time is about 8 weeks.
  • 21
 Great write up it was a pleasure having paul here with us to do the review. We ride the solid strike and are blown away from its performance. The tracks we ride here in Lousã are more than enough to get the most out of this bike. Maybe he wasnt riding it fast enough Wink good job paul. See you soon
  • 85
 Seems like a solid riding bike. I would love to travel somewhere to try it out.
  • 66
 If only bad jokes made us more popular
  • 33
 you really striked out man!
  • 10
 Nice looking bike! Is it just me but it seems as though some of these beautiful DH rigs in Aluminum are a lot cheaper than some of the carbon bikes being reviewed lately and these rigs can take a bashing trashing!!
  • 20
 Its a nice dh rig with new nice components and a price tag to match. Don't see what all the complaints are for. Awesome machine
  • 1310
 R I D E
~FÙCKING~
_DOWNHILL
  • 940
flag bike4christ (Feb 23, 2015 at 1:59) (Below Threshold)
 Ok, I rode downhill without having to swear about it. Now what?

Post something relevant to the article you say?

Will do.

The Strike is a very well balanced machine the "average Joe" DH'r can pick up without emptying their savings account. That should do it...
  • 263
 My comment is very relevant to the article, and you'll notice it if you look closelly to the photos.

peace Smile
  • 59
flag bike4christ (Feb 23, 2015 at 10:02) (Below Threshold)
 I see that and and I can own up to it, though being negged down on PB isn't the end of the world. Own it, learn from it and move on.
  • 96
 That piggy back must hold a solid record of stone strikes...
  • 20
 Not the ideal shock positioning regarding mud/rock strikes but that´s an easy fix and the bike rides like a dream so I can live with that
  • 21
 That was just a bad joke. And BTW there is no such thing as ideal shock positioning, and if someone researches it and achieves it, the bike as a whole surely looks like crap.
  • 51
 last herb
  • 30
 Me likes but the shock will get hammered by mud.
  • 21
 Easy fix buddy
  • 10
 You shouldn't have to. Potential issues like this should be engineered out.
  • 30
 It's not an issue, it's a highly purposeful positioning of the shock to reduce the forces created by the linkage. All designs have upsides and downsides, and if running a mud fender on the shock is a deal-breaker to you - buy something else than the Strike. If you want the linkage behavior, then use a mud fender. Simple.
  • 52
 Yet another co building affordable bikes failing to provide XL frames.
  • 10
 Agreed. It's nonsense to call that L/XL. Small, medium, large - that's what they're selling. Though I read somewhere that YT will be offering their new DH bike in XL.
  • 10
 the xl is huge!! I got one, honestly its nearly 6inches longer than my old L faith, I'm 6ft 4 and its bang on
  • 10
 I had an X-Long Demo and it was bigger than this bike by reach and stack and fit tiny.
  • 10
 The demo is about 20 mm shorter at the chainstays... you cannot 100% compare by just looking at reach and stack because you need a different body position on the Demo than on the Strike.
Let's compare a little bit between the XL-Demo - whereas the Speci has 3 mm more reach, the Strike has a wheelbase of 1270 mm (vs. Demo's 1235 mm). This is 35 mm more - believe me, this bike is really huge. Here's the current Demo-Geo: www.specialized.com/de/de/bikes/mountain/demo/demo-8-i#geometry
  • 10
 Compared to GT Sanction, Giant Reign, Santa Cruz Nomad... this bike seems smaller? Is that not so @dermadse it seems to me closer to the Scott Voltage maybe?
  • 10
 By the way, I make these tuning-levers for the Voltage, and I have an own Voltage at home. Here's a picture of the flyer by the way: fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10649779_677670408995455_155354172369660619_n.jpg?oh=bc2df055fd5d03f54fce1e7395103116&oe=5572ADB9&__gda__=1433856034_1b9953176f32a5dde4c2bd474bce8a0e

The Voltage is colser to the demo - 425 mm chainstays, 65 ° head angle (after installing the tuning kit, it can be 64).. but anyway, I wouldn't compare the Strike to the Voltage at all. The suspension system on the Voltage is a mono-beam, the geo is so much different... the S/M-Strike has a reach of 413, the Voltage in LARGE is at 410. Angles are completely different... the only thing common is that both are bicycles.

Please show me another bike with a wheelbase of 1270 mm... didn't check the Nomad or Reign, but these are no downhillbikes anyway.
  • 10
 I didn't think Cane Creek recommended using needle bearings and in fact the only needle bearings available required the eyelets to be drilled out. Can anyone comment on this?
  • 20
 if anybody eles is into Suspension-Porn, just like me =)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB_XA2iJ8_w
  • 10
 Major design flaw with the placement of the shock. that poor thing is getting all the shit storm from the rear wheel...or I'm missing something
  • 12
 Why put the shock right next to the back tire with a guard over the spring that probably ends up rubbing on it with all that empty space inside the front triangle where the shock belongs? I can't believe how many y'alls didn't like the look of the Saracen but like this thing. The lines are the same, slight s-bend DT, straight TT, rear triangle looks identical, just this thing has the shock in the dumbest spot possible next to that one Giant from back in'a day when they put it at the bottom in frunna da DT. WTF was Giant thinkin' then yeah? Oh wait I know what they's thinkin', "how can we convolute the squashing of a spring in a way that's never been done before, just for shits & giggities?". Same thing's happening here. :/
  • 20
 The shock is the component on the frame that absorbs all the forces. It needs to be placed where the forces can be supported properly. You can place the shock inside the frame, you either have a heavy, overweight frame OR your frame is likely not to last too long.

The basic idea of the frame concept arose around the reasonable shock placement (in terms of mechanical integrity) - it is funny how people think that others don't think at all.
And by the way, I have been riding frames designs like that for the past 6 seasons - I didn't have major issues on my shocks except one cracked piston rod... and I do ride in rain.
  • 20
 Hope they produce the shock fenders fast! can't find any for my strike...
  • 20
 Cut down a marsh guard and use some cable ties
  • 10
 I have a sweet homemade setup and my shock stays cleaner than on most other downhill frames. You just have to be creative.
  • 10
 Email solid, they sent me one with the bike
  • 13
 Yes, I know. I just wanted to make a better system for the mud-fest that I usually ride in the Winter. Works like a treat!
  • 10
 The mud fender is in stock at www.reverse-components.com/shop/en/Mud-Fender if you want one.
  • 20
 Another great test from Paul Aston, nice !
  • 10
 All this time and no one is going to compare this bike to the Antidote Lifeline? www.antidotebikes.com
  • 10
 As good as the price and specs may be, the shock placement will stop me from buying this bike every time.
  • 10
 Next market objective for majority of manufacturers -> make high end product at the most comepetitive price.
  • 10
 Where did they get the needle bearings in the Cane Creek Double Barrel's eyelets?
  • 10
 for a moment there i thought it had single crown boxxers
  • 21
 Nearly impossible to bottom out beyond 194mm ... provocative statement
  • 50
 Somebody get Bender....
  • 10
 4K for a 35lb DH bike. I'm liking the direction things are going here...
  • 20
 looks amazing
  • 10
 w h e e l b a s e is HUGE!
  • 10
 Looks sick but weight issues over bb?
  • 10
 nice bike..
  • 36
 It looks like solid ride...







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