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Dec 4, 2009
by Edd Stevens  
Source: BTO sports

Six Six One had their DROID deflector on display in Vegas. The Droid is hard shell armor with neck support built into it (think Leatt brace). This patent pending piece of armor looks interesting and they are expecting to see many athletes on it in 2010.

Video and details inside,
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Features:

* Injection molded polycarbonate front and back panels for maximum protection from roost and hard impacts.
* Forces are dispersed over a larger area in the event of a crash and will not apply unwanted pressure to collar bone and spine.
* Adjustable EZ-entry neck halo allows rider movement yet prevents support from hyperextension and possibility of a neck injury.
* Neck halo is fully adjustable to fine tuned to different rider sizes and comfort.
* Back panel protects without affecting freedom of movement with molded flex hinges.
* Available in White or Black
* 1 Size: to fit: 5'0" - 6'2", Weight: 140-220 lbs.
* Available December 1st, MSRP $292.99 USD or £178.08

Here's Steve from 661 giving us a run through of what to expect:
661 Droid

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118 Comments
  • 15 1
 I think this is the way full protection for downhill should look like. Right now it's a pain to fit my leattbrace under my dainese jacket... The only thing I think it's not so good on this new 661 version is the short spine protector.
  • 8 0
 that is a great idea ! its strange no one thought of it sooner ! hats off to 661
  • 4 0
 This is definately the way forward as far as chest/neck protection is concerned. I wonder if they could use some of that d3o stuff that hardens on impact to make certain areas of the unit more flexible/less restrictive? Seems odd that they didn't show it with a full face helmet on in the video too. Cost wise, if this is as good as a leatt brace then it's bang on the money to be competetive imo.
  • 1 0
 that would be smart but if you think about it look at those helmets by bern. (i think thats the company.) if i am correct, they make those harden helmets and they cant even certify them for protection, its like not wearing a helmet. so doing that would logically be like not wearing protection? although that does seem like a sweet idea its just not the way to go for neck support.
  • 1 0
 Yeah, I see where you're coming from, but I thought maybe it could be designed to work alongside more rigid protection? so the neck brace is still in place with rigid support up the spine and possibly at the front, but then d3o around the sides to allow for greater arm movement without comprimising stability/protection. Could also use some of the material that POC use for their latest spine protector? Would probably be HUGELY expensive, but i'm sure this is the way that all but the most hardcore/military protective gear will head in the future as the technology becomes more common.
  • 1 0
 thats really true. and im trying to critisize bern, because they are just giving the option for u if you dont want a helmet that is gonna break when u hit ur head. but instead get hard and then not hard or watever at a fraction of the cost. (i might be confusing this with another company). if so its bern's hardhats that im talking about that just cost a shitload less like in the 20 dollar range but are not certified even though they work fine.
  • 5 0
 I like the way its going with an integrated Neck saver, but articulation wise how much mobility will i lose wearing it?
  • 5 0
 I agree mate. The neck brace/protecter is an added option that makes it stand out from any other protection. If It's as adjustable as they say then, it'll be an obvious buy really. Something I'd buy as I only wear a neck brace at the best of times..... hahaha
  • 2 0
 Hopefully it is as flexible as they say it is or it will feel like you are wearing a barrel. I definitely think it is a good idea and long overdue. I want one.
  • 7 1
 " 1 Size: to fit: 5'0" - 6'2", Weight: 140-220 lbs."
too tall. total bummer
  • 1 0
 awesome idea! it is cheaper then a leatt right? defs going on my list of gear for next season
  • 2 1
 ive seen a few people wearing them out where i race they seem to like them, but mobility is my biggest question too, it took me a while to get my leatt dialed in so i could fuckin look up, this seems less adjustable
  • 19 1
 How much mobility will you have when you end up in a wheelchair from a broken neck?
  • 5 0
 very true, also i will stick my kneck out and say sixsixone would not produce a product if it restricted movement significantly. they are (arguably) the experts of protection.
  • 2 4
 be good and not break your neck.
  • 1 0
 ^^^This is the first thing 661 came out with that Dainese didn't do first (and much better) so it is very arguable that they are not the leaders in protection.

Otherwise, I've seen these at the local races and they look great and functional.
  • 1 8
flag huckoveraduck (Dec 4, 2009 at 9:40) (Below Threshold)
 661 droid... As in your a droid out of star wars that can't really move in smooth motion? Great!
  • 2 0
 They should have made it a full spine no?? I have a full Dianese and plan to add neck protection....how???
  • 5 1
 the best option for mobility and protection is to get a 661 core saver, and wear a leatt brace on top of that, you get everything in one package!
  • 1 0
 That combination of the core saver/Leatt will cost you more than the driod chest/neck protector and from my experience riding with chest protectors and suites is that they offer the same mobility.The core saver doesn't have better protection since it only protects your'e spline,shoulders and chest.

You said everything in 1 package,the 661 droid has also everything in 1 package to since it's gonna be cheaper than buying 2 things seperate.
  • 2 0
 im not positive but isnt it about the same price to buy a leatt (or EVS or ALPINESTARS or TLD) brace AND a chest prtector. Then at least you have the option of riding without a brace/without a chest proector? but i must say itsa great idea and other companies will probably follow suit...
  • 1 0
 well a leatt is around 300 for the cheap one and a 661 core saver is about 140 so im pretty sure it wouldnt be cheaper. it might be worth it though if you got a pressure suit or something
  • 1 0
 www.motocrossgiant.com/Mens_Shoulder_Brace_and_Neck_Collars_s/1722.htm

Well, the neck braces here range from about $150 to around 620, with may options in between.

The droid retail for around $300.

So if you were to get the EVS brace or the OMEGA brace you could buy a $100 chest proteter and still have $50 on the Droid. BUT, I would say if you were wanting a leatt or ALPINESTARS brace, thedroid might fi your needs. I think personally, I would just choose the brace/protector separetly so I could coose to ride without one if I wanted....NOW if the driod had a detachable neck brace (zippered off or something) that would be another story.
  • 2 0
 ye im surprised you can only take the back protector off, it definitely would have been worth it to make the front protector removable as well IMO
  • 1 0
 +1

I'd sooner have spine protection than chest protection. One is superficial, the other is life saving.
  • 1 0
 +2. i think if they make a second version of the product, it may come with som of these features, as well as a better price. Take Leatt for example, The first version was for about $600, but now, after consumer ratings and product competition, you cn snatch a low end leatt for under $300. I think we may also see other companies manufacturing similar products...???
  • 2 0
 good idea but the fact that you probably wouldn't be able to wear it under a jersey is what i dont like. if it were 2 separate pieces that fit together so you could wear the vest or just a core saver or something under a jersey and the neck brace over top it would be better imo.
  • 1 0
 you are meant to wear it over your jersey that's why like a mx one.
  • 2 0
 personally i think it is a really good idea. this said, there must be some limits in adjustment and will make jerseys etc. hard to fit. I think it is an outside item for sure.

i run a core saver (top 2 plates removed) with a leatt, i feel pretty bomb proof in this and i think that it lets me feel 'FREE'.
i have a feeling that this might make people fell a little more confined.
  • 3 0
 I wish the video would have shown him putting a helmet on and seeing how it restricted him. but that honestly is a great idea! looks super light and i don't think it looks all that restricting. probably my next purchase.
  • 2 0
 A lot of people voice concerns over not being able to wear a jersey over this (as well as other neck brace solutions). While safety is the main concern for designers of this type of gear, fashion (as we all know on PB), is of high concern too. Hopefully we will see jersey manufacturers being to design neck-brace-friendly jerseys in the near future, to solve this problem, instead of trying to redesign the neck brace to accommodate jerseys (which doesn't really make any sense). One criticism I have of 661 products in general is their lack of sizing. And $292 MSRP is NOT a lot of money for such a product... it's less than a Leatt brace alone.
  • 2 0
 i don't get how you guys out there are whining about mobility....
you have to sacrifice a little something .. in order to get a little something .. right? nothings perfect... if your neck could move completely free.. then how would it protect you on the big crashes?
i'll be getting one, minus the crying
  • 1 0
 I think it's people wanting more from product/whining that drives them forward. This is a good step, but i'm sure in 5 years there will be a much better one and part of that will be because people whinged a bit about lack of mobility. The best companies are the ones that listen too customer feedback and develop products accordingly.
  • 1 0
 damn i broke my neck like 3 months ago and its not a good feeling, so you guys should probobly think about getting one for your self... too bad i cant afford one right now... so i guess i will have to wait untill i break my neck next time then buy one ;P

jk but i rly broke my neck D:
  • 1 0
 dang... it can become verry wrong sometimes Razz i didnt mean to say that you guys should buy a new neck and that i cant afford a new neck Razz i ment that you guys should get one of those Neck/Chest Protectors for your self Big Grin
  • 4 0
 to all those saying its expensive.... have you seen the cost's of leatt's alone?
  • 1 0
 $595 for a leatte carbon!!!!
  • 2 1
 Few things that I am concerned about:

Though the 661 unit looks like the step in the right direction did they coinsider the issue that the leatt has with the rear spline piece breaking and still crippling people? How much R&D went into it, did they purchase cadavers to do their testing like Alpinestars did? Is the rear spine piece made to absorbe and break away like the A-stars bionic in a way that will not compromise the spine. Alot of you might not think this is a big deal, but when your a big guy, you tend to hit things with alot more force then a little guy does, and in some cases big guys don't have the reflexes to try and save parts of the body during a crash. Another thing that bothers me about both the Leatt and the Droid is how they are removed, if your down and a medic needs to remove the brace, the leatt and the droid are more difficult then the A-stars....I would say that the a-stars and Droid offer better collar bone protection and that is a good thing. The price is deffinatly competetive with the 661, but I am not convinced that this is a good brace for the very serious riders out there.
  • 2 0
 These are valid concerns, but you must keep in mind that ALL safety equipment will eventually break/fail with enough force. No equipment can protect you from all foreseeable impacts or crashes - the point is to minimize risk. What makes me question the 661 design is how you can just put it on over your head - which would mean the hole is quite big. I can't even come close to fitting my head in my Leatt without undoing it first. And the fact that there is only one size. I do agree with you that the 661 looks like it would be difficult to remove in the event that you are down. However, the Leatt comes apart into two separate pieces (front and rear), making it quite easy to remove by medics.
  • 1 0
 True enough.
  • 2 0
 The Leatt breaks away just fine when you are down. Pop it off on both sides then wait till you get to the hospital to log roll and remove it under the eye of medical personal who are experienced with dealing with spinal injuries. I have never heard any stories about the leatt breaking. If it did you were probably going to end up screwed anyway. I know for sure my leatt kept me walking and talking once this summer. I do admit the first time I put on the leatt I thought somebody needs to intergrate this thing into a spine pad. Something similar to the 661 coresaver with top to bottom spine protection. With possibly a zipper or something else to make it removable from the spine protection.
  • 1 0
 I'd prefer if it was full body jacket not something like a mx buzzer. Because from what I see now you get more protection for the neck but compared to a typical dainese/661 jacket you get way less protection for the rest of the body.
  • 1 0
 i know lot of you guys think im good so i dont need neck braces and all, well takes one time for that good rider to f up..ive bene wearing a leatt for mx and dh for bout 4 years now, its worth the money, but with having as a chest protector liek it is, mobility could be constricted, i tried my leatt with my 61 deflector and the problem was the shoulder pads hit my shoulders causing slow reactions and just anoying, this looks good and maybe it will work, money is high but its your life do what you want, but i had a close call without a brace and now i never ride without it..laid up in hospital immobil, and this is not a lack of spinal protection for some above who said so..land on your back with it and you'll find out, i took a crash today on a 30 ft step up, brace and chest protectors worked great!
  • 1 0
 i got to get my hand on 1 of these no mater wa the price is i had soom 1 i know he was awsome. riding with the pro's his now paralised neck down if he had a neck brace he would of been ok so get 1 guys worth it.
  • 1 0
 it looks very good but i think it could be better with a longer spine protector and kidney belt to keep you shit tight.. and shoulder pads.. then i thin you would have something every one would want!
  • 1 0
 chest protectors stay close to the lower back and stomach, especially when ya drink a lot of beer and get fat like i did in the off season, but kidney belts hinder breathing
  • 1 1
 I have to say this is a well designed chest deflector with the thought of incorperating neck protection in it.My hats off to 661.
As far as impact protection goes it is roost deflection on the chest and back,but designed for impact on the neck.Of corse this will still help when landing on your chest or back racing MX,but when racing DH we race on terrain with rocks ,trees,and are impacts can be severe.
Most MX deflector are made for that in mind,just deflecting.This is all I ever used for DH in the past due to the fact that I like the mobility and weight,but with hard contact to rocks or roots,and trees I cracked all of them,BUT still walked away though I was hurt with bruised ribs and once with my back hurt bruised afterwards.
Now I use Dainese (The leader in IMPACT protection).What I use is the commander (the new version is called the Armor Pro for 2010 in the motorbike section of the website.)
This has full impact protection as well as roost and it can be used with a Leatt and to the guys asking about using a Leatt with your Dainese gear it seems to work with Impact jackets with the side zip,but Impact Armor with center zip you can't zip all the way up.
  • 5 0
 coolies
  • 3 0
 if only it had shoulder protection too. i would buy it in a heartbeat. i always seem to take a tree to the shoulders, but also want a neck brace. does anyone know if they make a combo?
  • 2 0
 want. now.
  • 1 1
 something about this makes me think its not made for mtb, mainly because its really just a roost guard with a neck brace
  • 2 1
 lack of spinal protection just makes this seem pointless. What is the point in heavily protecting the neck but not the back. They should have done a complete design with the normal spinal plates.
  • 1 0
 with the removable back section fitted, you get full spinal protection.
  • 1 0
 Yea, that back plate won't do squat for spinal protection. Its just like an MX chest protector. I want the classic ribbed design; something that has been proven for many many years. Why protect your neck and skimp on the spine protection. Just seems ugh pointless. 661 kinda let me down with this one IMO because I really like their gear, I like their idea, but they just leave too much to wish they incorporated.

Maybe the next model will incorporate true spinal protection not just thin composite plates.

btw, look in the front view pic at the cutout where you see the spine protection. All it is is plate no different than my fox chest protector. It won't do squat when you really need it. I want thick ass padding with each individual or pairs of disc sections independently covered.
  • 1 0
 Good idea that looks affordable. I would love arm coverage though. Elbow pads sometimes aren't enough. Actually, it looks like what Maximus wore in Gladiator!
  • 1 0
 well how much is the nice leatt and a chest protector? roughly 500 depending on what chest protector u buy, i may buy 1 one if it fits im 6'5
  • 1 0
 you do mean 500 usd for JUST the leatt right?
  • 1 0
 yea id be willing to try one but i wana see a guy wearing it with a helmet to show movement. but it is a step forward forsure.
  • 1 0
 I dont understand how some of you think this is expensive... Price out a Leatt and a core saver and then see how cheap it is!
  • 1 0
 A good alternative is a Leatt/EVS brace combined with a Thor Sentinal chest protector. The Thor chest protector is very similar to that 661.
  • 1 0
 Gotta link on that stuff?
  • 1 0
 www.thormx.com
  • 2 0
 Do you think 661 bring this functionality to a pressure suit for FULL protection? lower spine & shoulders
  • 1 0
 what nobody caught that... your specs say fits 140-220 lbs in the video you say its for 130-190 lbs......which is it?
  • 1 0
 it also says it reatail for 325 in the vid
  • 2 0
 good price, looks quality!!
  • 1 1
 i recon armours getting to complicated everythings detachable but with arms and lower back this would defo be on my christmas list
  • 1 0
 THESE HAVE NOW BEEN DELAYED TO PURCHASE TO JANUARY 1st. apolagees from 661's director of sales.
  • 2 1
 i think under $300 is pretty sick deal and the price makes it price competitive towards other neck braces
  • 2 2
 what?
  • 1 0
 this is really good! cheaper than most neck braces as well and back and front armor. may have to get one for next season¬!
  • 2 0
 if only it came out before everyyone bought neckbraces
  • 1 0
 unlucky maattt ill be geting 1 and ull be stuck with u leatt lol
  • 1 0
 i dont want one thoo:L rather my leat and gettin a poc armourrr
bloww meeee
  • 1 0
 to bad i don't weight 140lbsFrown ,looks sick though
  • 1 0
 looks nice... woudl def liek to try one of....
  • 1 0
 i might jsut have to buy one of those, looks like a genius idea to me
  • 1 0
 That's what ill be wearing next season. Looks brilliant. Thx 661.
  • 1 1
 id rather have a good core protector, then a good neckbrace and not a halfassed combo
  • 1 0
 does it work with moto aswell?
  • 1 0
 yes.as with most protection, the initial concept was for moto
  • 1 0
 when is this going to be available to purchase on sixsixone.com?
  • 1 0
 really want one of these but cant seem to find any yet?
  • 1 0
 I want one
  • 1 0
 Yeah very good idea
  • 1 2
 look good and something i would want to buy but it is alot of money
  • 1 4
 thats ALOT of money for that. all they have pretty much done here is take a MX chest/back protector and stick a neck brace on it.
  • 2 0
 Designing a neck brace is a LOT more development than slapping it on a roost guard. Roost guards (or "MX chest/back protectors") lack ANY of the structural integrity to support a neck brace. Notice how if you take off the back plate, the "Thoracic Member" (as Leatt calls it, below the back of the neck brace) must stay in place.
  • 2 6
flag odin333 (Dec 4, 2009 at 8:47) (Below Threshold)
 well i don't really see why they can charge $325 for it. It might be something new and exciting, but really its just plastic Armour with some padding. Its not using carbon fiber or d3o padding or any other type of exotic material that may justify the price. its a good idea, but for that price i wouldn't bother looking at one. They are just being like Leatt and charging insane prices. If they were smart they would lower the price significantly and then more people would buy it. Neck braces as a hole are insanely overpriced.
  • 4 0
 Just live with the fact that there's allot of R&D off a neck brace,they wanted to developed it's product to the highest & safest standards in the industry.This cost lot's of time/money,TLD charge rediculous high prices for their helmets and no one complains that they are so expensive,protection isn't cheap and you want have the best protection.

I don't mind spending 400 euro on a neck brace,better than in landing in a wheelchair.

A D3 cost twice the price of that 661 neck/chest protector,people still wouldn't complain it's price and will buy it
  • 3 0
 What a lot of kids don't understand about producing a product is that the retail price reflects a lot more than the sum of the materials used to build it. R&D costs a lot, especially with something designed to protect your neck, because an improperly designed piece of equipment can cause more harm than good. The other factor is supply and demand. Right now the demand for neck braces is still relatively low, compared to other pieces of safety equipment, so until they can fulfill larger orders, the cost to make them will remain relatively high. They are not "insane prices", and they are not overpriced for the sake of being "exclusive"items - it's simple economics.
  • 1 0
 this 661 brace has been in development for over 3 years now i think. they had prototypes around the time the Leatt came out. the price is mostly in development, making the molds, etc. a computer processor costs like a dollar to make, but the amount of r&d it takes to make one is immense. there is a lot of r&d in this brace and compared to others, it's priced about the same. it doesn't have the carbon fiber glitz of the $500 Leatt, but then again, this chest pro/neck brace isn't $500 either. i say if the back protector helps spread the load better than just the spine part then it's a great product. saving up for this nonetheless, it would be great on the pedal bike and the motor bike.
  • 1 10
flag stryke (Dec 4, 2009 at 13:08) (Below Threshold)
 whenever you buy shit you're paying for their sponsored riders to get free shit too, tires are the prime example of this (thanks everyone who pays retail for tires so i dont have to!)
  • 3 0
 The amount of "free shit" sponsored riders get from manufacturers is really negligible, and is NOT OFFSET by consumers paying retail prices. Sponsored riders are essentially doing marketing for the manufacturers - it's a job for the rider, and it's marketing/advertising/R&D/testing for the manufacturer.
  • 1 6
flag stryke (Dec 4, 2009 at 13:43) (Below Threshold)
 what and the company doesnt have to pay to make the product what the rider doesn't have to pay for (aka no income)
  • 4 0
 Believe me, the amount of "free shit" sponsored riders receive from manufacturers is a drop in the bucket compared to piles of excess stock they have laying around. Of course it costs them *something* to give away free product, but that amount is very, very little. And the benefit of having a pro ride their product far outweighs the value of the goods they are giving away for "free" (technically it's not free, since the sponsored rider is WORKING for the manufacturer). Having a pro show a company's logo is worth a whole lot more in sales than the very very minimal cost of manufacturing.
  • 1 6
flag stryke (Dec 4, 2009 at 14:00) (Below Threshold)
 and all the people who aren't 'pro'? maxxis have so many riders who get free tires, and im sure many other companies do exactly the same
  • 3 0
 The more they order from the manu the better the cost....stfu stryke
  • 2 0
 Stryke, you're claiming to get free or cheap tires...from a company you are basically being paid to represent...and then talk shit about them and call the bires of your supporter's tires retarded for buying them at full price? WTF DUDE?
You're a f*cking idiot and after I check your profile and figure out who's tires you run(assuming you're not one of those douchebags that runs another company's product), I'm sending them the link to this. And ya best hope it ain't Kenda cuz that's who I ride for and love and I'm sure they'd appreciate this...
  • 2 3
 hahahh Kenda sucks (except small block)
  • 2 3
 my condolences, you ride for kenda

do you black out maxxis tires when you ride some real downhill?
  • 3 0
 I'm sorry for your ignorance. Bettin you tools haven't even SEEN the new line, let alone tried them, prob just little fanbois that run whatever your fav pro runs. Wear same underwear, too?
And according to your points, NO ONE is on your side here Stryke. Shut the f*ck up already, this is about a necksupport anyway, remember??
  • 1 2
 i didnt realise i needed people to give me 'points' Frown

whats so incredible about the new line? have they copied the same cut of a minion and going to price it cheaper in hope people are going to go running to it?
  • 3 1
 the only decent tires that Kenda has over Maxxis is the Nevegal and the small block. Maxxis owns the downhill market, pros will even go behind the backs of their sponsors to run Maxxis tires.
  • 1 2
 gotta admit small blocks are pretty sweet, i run them on my jump bike and xc bike if the conditions are right

but nevagrips? really?
  • 1 2
 hahahah serioustly... b-free you're a tool Kenda blows for downhill
  • 2 0
 I agree, Ive run Nevegal's; never before has a tyre forced me to brake so early into a corner Frown
Currently running Intense 909's: for the conditions and trails I build around here they are LUSH! Gotta go with Minions or High Rollers on hardpack though, the 909's just dont roll quick enough.
  • 2 1
 My bud blew a minion at Vail and borrowed two Nevs from me...hasn't looked back. Personally, I hate the Nevs for anything other than dry XC, my absolute now all-time fav setup is a Telonix front and an Excavator rear. I've found I can push into a corner WAY later and then the tires check up twice as fast if needed, and the shoulder lugs on the Telonix are burly and don't pop over like my minions did and I can run a bit less PSI.
And for the record...I ran Vail(as well as all the pirate trails there as fast as I could handle), Sol Vista, and everything we could ride in 10 hours at Winter Park including the beat to f*ck Trestle DH on 14psi. Not one flat, pinch or problem with welter weight tubes. Sounds like a lot of people need to learn how to pick and hold lines, not just monster truck through shit.
  • 2 2
 Nevegal's are the kind of tire you buy when you have no idea what kind of tire to buy. Minions are the kind of tire you buy when you realize you want to shred shit downhill. Sam Hill knows whats up.
  • 2 0
 please stop this conversation in my blog, its 100% of topic.

thankyou Salute
  • 3 2
 we are discussing the superiority of maxxis tires, this is an important discussion
  • 2 0
 If you are contempt on arguing, please do so here:
www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=91974
Salute
  • 2 2
 I greatly apologize, please feel free to remove all of my comments. I tried to end it and got sucked back in. Hate fighting with 6 year olds on the internet...
  • 2 1
 Squirrel...
  • 1 1
 b-free: Nobody is fighting, Merely sharing opinion. Some opinions, however, carry more weight than others. I agree, lets ditch this. Sorry Edd!
  • 1 4
 300$ no thanks.
  • 1 0
 i agree these things need to be mass produced as helmets cuz out of reaction u protect your head, but other parts of your body are therefore more vulnerable. i sacrificed my collarbone out of reaction this summer to protect my head, why dont they worry your whole shoulders?
  • 1 0
 OK, now that is pretty funny - nice.







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