Replay: Semi-Finals at the Lenzerheide DH World Cup 2023

Jun 10, 2023
by Ed Spratt  
Ahead of Finals later today riders are getting between the tape for the first Elite DH Semi-Finals. Catch all the action below.

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  • 19 0
 Two minutes in and I can't understand why they would have CG talk to an ipad for track preview? Why don't they just use the rider?
  • 2 0
 Was thinking to myself that that was some prime TV stuff, a guy holding an iPad without even the content showing. Felt like unnecessary trick switching from one shot to another, instead of just focusing on the preview ride.
  • 5 0
 Rob must be laughing so hard at this. They took a job away from a guy who could commentate on Minnar making a pizza run sound epic for this??? Wow! This is soooooooo bad.
  • 2 0
 @fattyheadshok: I would watch a minaar and rob cooking show
  • 19 0
 Please make it a option to turn the commentary off
  • 5 0
 On GCN+ you can have ambient sound only! It's a bit weird but great sometimes
  • 21 0
 This is proper Eurosport style commentary. Dull, no excitement, aimed at people who know nothing about the sport.
  • 2 0
 @teoleoni: Thanks so much for pointing this out. With the English commentary this year it improves the viewing experience greatly.
  • 5 0
 Hopefully feedback is listened to, it feels like there's a long way to go to improve the 'show'.
  • 9 1
 Boring babble rambling commentary, - no excitement or passion - other than faking it. Too much talking non sense!
  • 5 0
 My state of the art TV has a volume adjuster and a mute option.
  • 2 0
 @neimbc: it's just the semi/qualis, the riders aren't excited either. Wait til the big show to make a judgement, although I admit that this isn't going to help sell many tickets.
  • 1 1
 @neimbc: leprechauns--that's what I'm talking about
  • 2 0
 @ponyboy24: what a time to be alive !
  • 3 0
 The best part of the commentary for me was when Cedric wasn’t back in the booth yet, and Ric wasn’t saying anything
  • 14 0
 Kinda feels like half the field could be out with injury by the end of the season with all the extra race runs and tightly grouped races, will take a bit of adapting to for the riders.
  • 3 3
 Idk if I count wrong but timed trainig+quali+finals = quali+semis+finals, or not?
  • 2 0
 @Kolikjun: Without points in training and quali the didn't need to push the same way.
  • 13 1
 it's so much better without comment. just ambient, gracia is so annoying.
  • 8 5
 Just think of Claudio and Gracia suddenly becomes much more palatable.
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: no he doesnt. i watched everything in mute because of gracias cranking
  • 5 0
 I decided to give it a go before deciding on subbing, I can easily say I won't be subbing. Video quality is terrible, I guess the difference is Redbull uses broadcast grade cameras, Discovery looks like aliexpress quality. Commentary makes me want to mute the race. The drone footage looks like they forgot to actually interview the drone pilot. On screen graphics looks like minimum effort was put into them. Guess they spent most of their budget on getting the rights and had little left for the actual events.
  • 5 0
 Coverage and commentary was sub par compared to what we have come to expect from Red Bull. CG and Ric make Warner and CC sound like genius commentators. Eventually I switched the sound off. Camera work and continuity were also poor especially in the semis broadcast.i also feel like that was an overdose of downhill with way too little excitement and finish line antics. Great riding though. .
  • 6 0
 Let's hope they get their act together for the finals. A bit embarrassing that the coverage is no longer free and their subscription format doesn't even work!?
  • 11 3
 I like Ric but CG detracts. Please shut up.
  • 2 3
 Cameras are pretty good. Looking forward to seeing finals.
  • 6 0
 They need to give updates on how many riders are left, etc.
  • 8 0
 Some weird filler shots in the middle of race runs. What's going on?
  • 6 2
 Race coverage pretty much as lame as I expected. Amateur hour in comparison to Redbull. Whoever is in change of the camera placement needs to be fired immediately ... 20 cameras my ass! lame lame lame! Cedric is the single bright spot. Def not paying for this sh*t!
  • 3 1
 There are way more cameras than we are seeing right now - the semi finals have the riders going at smaller intervals (30sec?) than the finals so we only have see a snippet of each run.
They have the kit to show full top go bottoms but we will only get that tomorrow, if we pay, and the riders go at longer intervals.

I'm sure I read that the final riders (top 10?) wil only be sent once previous rider crosses the line so we get full top to bottom runs.
  • 2 0
 In previous years we didn't get to see half the field, the broadcast would show the top 30 only.
  • 1 1
 Nothing in the upper off camber or steep woods section. Lol....
  • 1 0
 Probably saving the better coverage for the Finals for the subscription payers.
  • 1 0
 @snotrag: Yep , looking at womens start list for finals , 4 minute gaps.
  • 6 1
 It's as bad as I feared and probably the end of an era. Very lame and tepid commentating. Bring back RB and Rob!
  • 1 1
 They showed 1 guy do a full run before there were way more cameras than redbull, the fast guys and the finals will have really good coverage. Comentry not so much
  • 3 1
 @bikes-arent-real: Many cameras doesn't mean good coverage, and yeah, commentary is a big part of it. Lots of really zoomed out shots and riders on jumps losing their heads. Thinking of hitting the bong and seeing if that helps.
  • 5 0
 @simonmtb: Yeah Redbull used to have the wooden towers built in the perfect spot, these guys just standing on the ground wherever. We are getting random crotch shots and trees.
  • 1 0
 commentary is really bad, gracia is no commentator. hes cranking
  • 1 0
 I think they have qualy then top 60 men/Top 30 women progress to semi final, then top 30 men/top 15 women progress to final.
Top 10 men/top 5 women are protected (based on last seasons overall for the first round)
If protected riders times fall outside of top 30 semi final times then they race anyway along with the top 30 times so potentially more than 30 riders in the men's final.
Think the theory is with only 30 in the final we will see each riders full runs on the live stream.
  • 4 0
 All this semi finals and things are cool , but where the fu** are Timed practice runs ??
  • 3 0
 That ain’t a thing anymore, 4 timed runs over the week would be a bit much hey?
  • 2 4
 @juliuskliemmtb: Yeah so ditch the Semi
  • 2 0
 @juliuskliemmtb: only few people knew it , real race was timed training
  • 1 0
 @jpnbrider: i'll miss the Alan Iverson references
  • 5 1
 Stream seems pretty good on GCN+, only complaint is lack of Warner and the streaming framerate seems slightly jerky.
  • 2 0
 The RedBull pace meter thingy was super cool. I miss that, and Rob. Hearing these guys say “this man” is just a punch in the Rick. Not full on, just like a little nut tap that kiind of hurts.
  • 1 0
 Other than how long I had to wait to and how difficult it was to actually find the right replay show on DiscoSport on Prime Video, the show wasn't that bad considering it was their first ever one. Felt a bit 'flat' but Redbull and Rob Warner is a hard act to follow. Cedric's English will improve with practice I think. Like Claudio I think some of the goofy stuff they come out with is partly having to translate from their own language under pressure.
  • 4 0
 Stream isn’t even working on discovery plus!
  • 1 0
 Now pushed the start back on discovery plus to 10:30, WTF is going on?!
  • 2 1
 @Wit290186: It’s on now on D+
  • 4 1
 Okay that's pretty much the whole track covered in Cameras, that's really good.
  • 4 0
 They're only showing the bike park stuff though...
  • 3 0
 Sounds like they are announcing golf. Wooden vocals. Kin ell I miss Claudio.... Rob and Caminator
  • 1 0
 After a couple of minutes of watching I decide that for me WC live broadcast is dead and it's better check highlights or just results. Without Rob - this doesn't fit to me anymore and it's after so many ears.
  • 7 8
 Why everyone is complaining about the new broadcaster? I don’t get it. Of course, I also miss Rob and his emotions but it’s time to move on and try to enjoy the coverage. For me it is much easier to follow racing this year than in previous years…
  • 5 1
 This is what I was thinking. I can’t say one is better or worse, just different.. and I expected much worse quality. Not bad at all!
  • 11 0
 Not really. I used to just go on the RedBull website for the finals on the day and watch it for free. A good commentator makes a massive difference as well. There must be better than these two. People are paying for this now, so they deserve a say it what happens. I suppose the viewing figures will tell the full story in the end.
  • 3 0
 Except for Cedric they are lame
  • 2 0
 Lots of rear flats so far, wonder if some at the top are tempted to go another 2PSI...
  • 3 0
 I'm ready
  • 2 0
 How does this work now then? What's the point in a semi final?
  • 2 0
 Every run the slowest gets illuminated until there is one left , they are the WINNER !
  • 2 1
 More times slots available for when they inevitably cram it with advertising.
  • 1 0
 @Matt115lamb: every run someone breaks a bone until some spineless gimp is pronounced king of the subscribers!
  • 1 0
 What a mess. I have Max and can't find it, so watching on Youtube and everyone is still sporting Redbull gear. Lol
  • 2 1
 Oh shit it's on there, so it's free on YT and the final isnt? whats the deal?
  • 2 0
 No wc dh on max. You’re going to need gcn+ to watch racing.
  • 1 0
 @bikes-arent-real: I'm not sure anymore. Anyway, the coverage sucks with each run being barely covered with comments liken "It's just the semi-final". Little or no excitement generated by the limp commentary.
  • 2 0
 @simonmtb: Yeah this was always gonna happen, hope it improves.
  • 1 0
 @yabbaDABdo: Okay, cheers for the info. I thought it was going to be on Discovery+ that was then going to be merged into Max.
  • 1 0
 @simonmtb: that was my plan too
  • 3 1
 Can somebody please explain the difference between up and down to Gracia?
  • 2 0
 Commentery much better now than in the junior finals!
  • 1 1
 They heard ask asking them to calm down lol, this is a good sign they're trying to do a good job.
  • 1 0
 So the subscription is just for the final race run?
  • 1 0
 Indeed
  • 4 2
 WTF is this shite
  • 1 0
 Loving the drones, although a bit too close to the riders at times.
  • 2 1
 Women’s final.

Where is the commentary?
  • 1 0
 Who put Wim Hof on commentary?
  • 1 1
 Loving the full runs for the finals
  • 3 6
 Different to most people's thoughts, I like it. Footage is way better than red bull. Commentary is different, but good. It's just all a change. Pleasantly surprised
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