Fundraiser Set Up in Memory of Jordie Lunn by brianpark

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marseer (Oct 17, 2019 at 10:58)

I get that medical bills add up right before some people pass away, but that debt should NOT burden the family. It's so sad. I have no idea how a system would be created that stopped this, but it would be great. We just got life insurance for everyone in my family, and getting it for my almost 3-year-old for this reason was saddening and sickening.

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onemanarmy FL (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:05)

Dude that process absolutely gutted me. Just thinking about losing my kids... damn dude. I actually couldn't make myself get the insurance for a couple years because I couldn't allow myself to even think about it. I used to wake up in the middle of the night and walk over my daughters crip and I'd literally have to lay a hand on her just so I knew she was o.k. She'll never know that but I did. A lot. But yeah. Definitely agree. The medical system is so jacked up. They charge so much freaking money that they should have plenty of money to cover the cost of people that go through this type of thing. One of the problems is that for those directly effected or even those like us that are on the outer limits...we go... damn... screw that. But then you stop and think about how often this happens.... how many people are completely fine one moment and in the hospital morgue the next.... financially its astronomical. And reality is... a lot fo these athletes are on the most basic insurance because it's not cheap and it's not like these guys are making millions of dollars. Fortunately through all of this, Jordie's family will have a tremendous amount of support and people will come together to help with this. His sponsors, fans, friends, the foundations that are built to help with this stuff. Etc. Still crazy to think about... this dude is leaving such a massive hole in so many hearts. We should look at him and this and all try to be those type of people.

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b-mcclelland (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:06)

We call it socialism. Jordie would have been covered if he was in Canada as a Canadian, it's unfortunate that it happened in Mexico as I don't imagine insurance companies are jumping at the opportunity to insure professional free riders riding internationally though.

mobil1syn (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:08)

getting the child rider for my children as weird as it sounds was a financial decision more than anything. it was a stupid cheap cost for the payout. i could write the check if i had to, but why not spend a few bucks and have someone else do it.

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tiredsoul (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:50)

@onemanarmy: I sit in my son's room in the dark sometimes while he's sleeping just to hear him breath.

vikb (Oct 17, 2019 at 13:08)

@b-mcclelland: - His BC medical insurance will pay for all services received up to the cost for equivalent services in BC. Mexican healthcare costs are quite reasonable so a lot of those costs will be covered. They will have to pay those bills first and then submit to the BC Government for reimbursement.

onemanarmy FL (Oct 17, 2019 at 14:39)

@tiredsoul: It's pretty easy for me to tell if my son's doing alright... he co-sleeps so dude is kicking me in the face most of the night. About time to move him to his room but honestly... I don't mind the little dude in my room. He's our last kid and once he moves out that'll be it.

sino428 (Oct 17, 2019 at 15:10)

It would be very easy to create a system to stop this. Its called public health insurance. Problem is no one wants to pay for it. Bills can't just go away. Someone has to either pay for it or the provider eats the cost.

jrocksdh (Oct 17, 2019 at 15:15)

@b-mcclelland: gta get the extra travel insurance through AAA etc

likeittacky (Oct 17, 2019 at 15:18)

It should be a law and Moral obligation if the person die's, that the bill is adjusted to between 90-95% less than the actual bill.

ybsurf FL (Oct 17, 2019 at 15:32)

When travel abroad either to surf bike climb or ski I always take insurance and I check if it covers the activities I intend to do, it's common sense to me...

ybsurf FL (Oct 17, 2019 at 15:34)

@b-mcclelland: yes they will but they will charge an arm and a leg but that gotta be done though a travel insurance will never be near 90000$ so it's worth it no matter the cost.

brentkratz (Oct 17, 2019 at 16:09)

@b-mcclelland: Canada is not socialist. Our system of medicare is a publicly funded one - we pay for it through our tax system.

b-mcclelland (Oct 17, 2019 at 20:10)

@vikb: I learned something new!

slowlow (Oct 17, 2019 at 20:10)

@onemanarmy: same here man...my daughter is six and I still do the same thing all the time. Totally feel you on this one.

b-mcclelland (Oct 17, 2019 at 20:13)

@brentkratz: I would argue that Canada is a very socialist country. But not on pinkbike, and not over the internet. Over beers sure!

Trailmaster12 (Oct 17, 2019 at 21:49)

@likeittacky: why? Doctors, nurses and equipment still have to be paid. I'm pretty sure they have done all they could to help Jordie. You imply that losing a patient is the hospital's fault.

sino428 (Oct 18, 2019 at 0:08)

@Trailmaster12: at the end of the day someone will pay for it. It doesn’t just disappear. If you made a law that said that the bills don’t have to be paid if a patient dies then doctors and hospitals would be forced raise the overall price of care to make up for all those expected losses. And that added cost would then just be pushed down to everyone else through more expensive care and higher insurance premiums.

korev FL (Oct 18, 2019 at 2:35)

@likeittacky: That might lead to the horrible situation where someone would want to die rather than face bankruptcy.

IMHO There is no way in a civilised country that someone should face financial ruin because of accident or illness.

zoobab2 (Oct 18, 2019 at 5:11)

@ybsurf: I travelled to the US 2 years ago, visited Google HQs for a project, went biking in Marin county and in SantaCruz, got drunk at the nearby bar with some factory workers. But definitely took an insurance!

The hospital cost for foreigners is always a problem in case of crash. I helped a swiss DH riders who crashed in french Morzine, he had to call his insurance to see if he could use a local ambulance :-)

mtnbykr05 (Oct 18, 2019 at 6:01)

@brentkratz: you literally just defined socialism.
“The term socialism refers to any system in which the production and distribution of goods and services is a shared responsibility of a group of people.”

sino428 (Oct 18, 2019 at 6:50)

@mtnbykr05: There is a big difference between a socialist government and a government which has some socialist programs (pretty much all countries do). Canada has a socialist heath care system, but that does make it a socialist government. Just like programs like Medicare, social security, etc don’t make the US a socialist country. Pretty much anything that is publicly funded is based on a socialist principal. Anything your tax money pays for would be based on socialist principals. Roads, bridges, Public transportation, libraries, public school systems, Etc.

mtnbykr05 (Oct 18, 2019 at 11:49)

@sino428: I know that and I'm not an idiot. The same argument could be made the other way though. "Canada isn't capitalist because it has socialist programs". Both the US and Canada have a fairly balanced system, with Canada leaning a little more socialist than the US. But @brentkratz blatantly said Canada is not socialist, but then tried to support such claim by describing a socialistic program verbatim.
You could pretty much say Canada is a constitutional monarchy with socialistic tendencies and the US is a republic with capitalistic tendencies. So to someone within the US and those in a much more authoritarian state, it could appear that Canada is a very socialistic country.

sino428 (Oct 18, 2019 at 12:33)

@mtnbykr05: I never said you were an idiot. Sorry if you took what I was saying the wrong way. My comment was not really a direct response to you, but in reference to the entire thread of comment leading up to it. One guy was saying Canada was socialist, then a guy responded that it isn't (while also pointing out its socialist health care system) which you correctly called him out on. I was really trying to further your point, not counter it.

likeittacky (Oct 18, 2019 at 17:43)

@Trailmaster12: Why, because the way that it is set up, the medical industry is run like racket by a Mob.
Its a big circle of gangsters; that manipulate the way the system collects, and sucks people financially dry of their life and savings anyway. The cost of all medical supplies, the machines you describe and just the time to occupy a bed or an ambulance ride are astronomical and shouldn't be.

Insurance enables the Hospitals to charge and make far more money than a service is actually worth or should be. The individual that has passed will not be the one taking care of the bill and that can be then the responsibility of Family.

Why do you think someone that maybe has retired and has their own medical bills possibly to pay and whatever else, now be suddenly burden by such an outstanding bill to pay off?

Let the hospital right it off FUK EM! Because if not they will FUK Your surviving family.

Coldspringer (Oct 18, 2019 at 20:18)

being an engineer/machinist I haven't read about socialism and don't completely understand what it is, but "socialist" or "capitalist" or whatever else you like to call it, universal gov't health care would make a lot of sense in the U.S. given how much leverage the drug companies have on us poor bastards. Anyone wondering why the U.S. spends so much on medical care, it's since the U.S. gov't can't legally negotiate drug prices at the moment which is horse shit. I even trust elected officials to manage finances in our medical system over the dumbass bazillionaires setting arbitrary prices for our tax dollars to pay

jrocksdh (Oct 19, 2019 at 7:34)

@Coldspringer: 'the road to serfdom' by hayek is solid starting point. Unfortunately too many arent well read and can get caught up in the here and now(pop culture)...socialism will always fail, proven by history.

g-42 (Oct 19, 2019 at 8:10)

@jrocksdh: Hayek is a good read. Problem is, his writing is well crafted political philosophy, and as such pretty big picture. When that collides with the reality of markets, and more importantly market failures such as externalities, natural monopolies, etc, then heading closely to the philosophy without some pragmatic adjustments will cause ridiculous problems.

Health Care is one of those areas that beautifully illustrates that. Because of all sorts of market power assymmetries and social contract issues, truly market based health care is a clusterf#ck none of us want to live with.

Look at all the countries you might consider living in (high standards of living, rule of law, economic opportunity, personal freedom, etc.) and think of them all as experiments in trying to square that circle with various degrees of govt intervention in that market. Then look at outcomes (cost to consumers, health measures, ability for consumers to manage risk, externalities paid for by the rest of society, regulatory capture allowing inefficiencies benefitting incumbent rent seekers, etc) and draw your own conclusions - but not one of those experiments has so far produced a successful truly capitalist health care system. That should be food for thought...

brentkratz (Oct 20, 2019 at 20:56)

@b-mcclelland: Haha - over beers for sure! But - we have capitalism and private ownership, and the gov't does not control the means of production and distribution of goods, therefore not socialist government. We see certain programs as so fundamental to society that they should be covered for all by all - maybe individually a socialist tendancy but that does not make us a socialist country (as sino428 says below).

brentkratz (Oct 20, 2019 at 21:07)

@mtnbykr05: A socialist tendancy of one program does not make a socialist system of government. Is USA socialist because education is covered by gov't or roads and sewers covered by gov't!?

DirtbagMatt (Oct 20, 2019 at 23:09)

@onemanarmy: The number of nights I leaned quietly over my sleeping children to ensure they were breathing is countless. Seems so unfounded on most days in retrospect, but then u hear of someone losing their child and u realize it can happen. Just so crushing on every level. I guess this comment doesn’t have much closure or direction, I just share the pain as parent and child.

b-mcclelland (Oct 21, 2019 at 22:19)

@brentkratz: Nope! Not taking the bait!

jrocksdh (Oct 23, 2019 at 10:09)

@g-42: try some Thomas Sowell

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crawford92 (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:47)

Important! Depending on the hospital/insurance/local legislation (e.g. US, amazingly), only Jordie's "estate" would be liable for the medical bills, not the family. Someone should make sure the family checks to see that is/isn't the case. A lot of families accidentally assume liability for the debt because the hospital and insurer tell them they are because they want to be paid, but it's not actually the case. Would hate to see that be the case for the Lunns.

Isey (Oct 18, 2019 at 5:01)

I dont really understand how his insurance doesn't relieve him from all those expenses. My insurance covers all emergency care world wide, even if the accident was due to a downhill accident. It also covers emergency rescue ( helicopter), flight back home with air ambulance ( if needed) and transportation of the diseased. This is just a normal travel insurance that more or less everyone in Sweden has when traveling abroad - so how come a Canadian involved in high risk activites doesn´t?

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Croft1 (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:22)

17 really big sponsors can't chip in $5300 each , come on margins aren't that slim on the stuff we buy.

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brianpark FL Editor (Oct 17, 2019 at 12:09)

I said this before, but I know that several of Jordie’s sponsors have come up huge in the wake of this tragedy—and that’s just the ones I’ve heard about.

Just because brands aren’t shouting from the rooftops that they’ve donated or supported in other ways doesn’t mean they haven’t or aren’t planning to.

nicoMF (Oct 18, 2019 at 6:05)

@brianpark: indeed, it would have been quite awkward and inappropriate.

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vjunior21 (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:11)

Didn't we just start discussing medical cost for riders a few days ago as it related the Brook Macdonald? I hope this is the eye opener for the riders to demand their sponsors pay enough to assist in coverage. Like this scenario, pro riders go all over the world and push the limits for our entertainment and market products. The companies that benefit should be involved in ensuring the riders are covered.

sino428 (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:37)

Part of the problem is that most insurance plans, even good ones don't cover everything. There are deductibles, co-insurances, & out pocket cost that the patient is responsible for even with a good plan. And with a serious injury all those costs, even with good coverage still can add up to a big amount. So even if the companies offered insurance, it still may not be enough to completely avoid situations like this.

Mntneer FL (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:55)

Always buy travel insurance. Whether it's for work, leisure, or gnar, totally worth it if you're going to be remote or international

vjunior21 (Oct 17, 2019 at 12:05)

@sino428:
I have no real clue of the options of insurance but I image there are options to at least buffer the high cost of these scenarios. I think the sponsors need to get involved with independent & factory sponsors riders and indicate a part of the sponsorship agreement is to carry insurance...especially when travelling. Either the cost is incurred by the sponsor or by the rider but the agreement states "No insurance No sponsorship." It would be the best for both parties as the riders will have something to assist with unforeseen issues and the sponsors will not have negative backlash from the public such as "Where are you sponsors?" such as in this scenario.

I will add that I am not trying to tread on Jordie's story. This man is/was an inspiration to us all and the family will forever be without this greatness in their lives. I think it is a matter that can used as a start to "How do the riders, sponsors, and industry ensure that these athletes are cared for if something goes wrong."

sino428 (Oct 17, 2019 at 13:21)

@vjunior21: Well that's kind of my point. Insurance does buffer the high cost, which would be astronomical in situations of serious injury if there were no insurance. A serious injury could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and even if the insurance pays most of that, the patient could still be on the hook for what ends up being a very significant amount of money. As with any job, benefits like health insurance are part of the compensation that needs to be considered. Since these guys all negotiate their own deal its on them and their sponsors to negotiate that into the contracts. It would be nice to make stuff like insurance mandatory but who would enforce it when each rider is basically independent to negotiate their own deals?

southshorepirate FL (Oct 17, 2019 at 14:10)

@Mntneer: the sponsors always get slagged, but it’s the insurance companies that make good insurance untraceable for many athletes. Next time you travel tell the insuring company that you’re a professional in the sport and will be filming/working/raving while travelling. Just watch how much the cost jumps, if they’ll even cover you.

jrocksdh (Oct 17, 2019 at 15:16)

@Mntneer: basics, travel 101

zoobab2 (Oct 18, 2019 at 5:12)

Finally Redbull will pay for insuring the riders at Rampage 2020?

Mntneer FL (Oct 18, 2019 at 5:31)

@robwhynot: I fly on surveillance aircrafts in warzones and am pretty familiar with what costs look like, but not quite sure what they are for sport specific events. Seems like there's enough money in it that a rider could negotiate coverage in their contracts

southshorepirate FL (Oct 18, 2019 at 18:13)

@Mntneer: I’ve travelled with insurance many times. Every time I’ve been told if riding or racing as a pro or in a competition, even amateur, I wouldn’t be able to buy regular travel coverage and make a claim. The amount of restrictions and limitations on travel insurance is ridiculous. Consider many of them have clauses stating that if you don’t contact the company before receiving treatment the benefit may be reduced, even if the treatment would actually have been fully covered. So lying mangled on the side of a trail your supposed to call a lie across before the heli picks you up? Regardless, my point is that people should stop slagging sponsors, there’s many more complications to getting support through insurance than who is paying the premium.

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lancifer (Oct 17, 2019 at 12:48)

How cool would it be if Rockstar(etc.) said something like---"Jordie was such a HUGE presence, and such an awesome guy in the mountain biking world, and the world in general, that we didn't want his family to suffer anymore than they already have, so we have decided to absorb any of Jordies medical costs... it just seems like the right thing to do"! Man, I would only buy Rockstar the rest of my life , "IF" that happened...

lancifer (Oct 17, 2019 at 14:53)

Who down voted a "perfect world" scenario...? A Super Doosh, that's who! I guess the "IDEA" of a BIG sponsor supporting their rider at the absolute worst possible time in their(families) lives makes NO SENSE!!! Nice open mindness!

MtlWoodworker (Oct 17, 2019 at 15:23)

My thoughts exactly

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ArizonaJack (Oct 17, 2019 at 10:55)

Jordie will be missed. I hope to see his sponsors step up.

blakestory (Oct 17, 2019 at 10:56)

Agreed

nismo325 (Oct 17, 2019 at 17:13)

Have you donated yet? a lot of people talking about sponsors but i bet 90% of the commenters on PB won't donate a penny. People need to talk less and step up instead of telling someone else to fix the problem.

nicoMF (Oct 18, 2019 at 6:14)

@nismo325: Well, from my perspective, if, as a sponsor, you use an athlete's image to sell your product, there is a part of responsibility that you and I may not support. There are no objective reasons to feel obliged to compensate a situation where we have very little to do. If I take part of the donation, this will be on a freewill basis in the memory of Jordie and for his family.

yakimonti (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:57)

I believe R2R makes a percentage of the donations? I sure wish we could have just started a gofundme or something on pinkbike alone, PB readers could have generated that $100k overnight. But, if this is the only legit option, I would love to donate and help the family. RIP Jordie, a hero to all, especially us canadians

GnarAZ (Oct 17, 2019 at 12:05)

Just a curious administrative question- was his hospital expense accrued in Mexico or did he get evacuated to a US facility? I would worry if they had a body as collateral a country could add some significant pressure to see to it that a bill is (in some capacity) paid or an intent is made to do so... otherwise one could likely just walk away from a Mexican hospital bill without them having much recourse.

Endurip FL (Oct 17, 2019 at 23:40)

For most people in Scandinavia this corrupted insurance system in america is just hard to understand. Our healthcare is (basically) free and still cheaper for th government. But the only thing thats important is that it saves lives and makes life worthy of living despite unfortunate sickness and accidents.

Isey (Oct 18, 2019 at 6:59)

This has nothing to do with america at all. Jordie was a canadian who got mortally wounded in Mexico.

g-42 (Oct 19, 2019 at 8:16)

@Isey: both of which are countries in North America, something we here in the USA seem to have a hard time wrapping our brains around at times

mobil1syn (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:05)

let this be a reminder to all of us to have a plan in place for the time when your number gets called because you never know. the last thing the people you leave behind need is figuring out how to pay for all the costs.

enduroNZ (Oct 17, 2019 at 13:22)

What’s really shit is if it’s happened to jordies family there is probably a heap of other people in similar situations drowning in debt without any support whatsoever

way2manyhobbies2keep (Oct 18, 2019 at 8:56)

@YTIndustries should make a bunch of Lunn replica rampage bikes and sell at a rate where a portion of the funds go to Lunns fund.

www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjqha3klablAhWLrZ4KHSCHBBoQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fm.pinkbike.com%2Fnews%2Fjordie-lunns-red-bull-rampage-2018.html&psig=AOvVaw1QSId2qJNFcpyxhw4UXgaX&ust=1571500520186480

makkman (Oct 17, 2019 at 13:04)

Mountain biking is considered an extreme sport and is not covered by some insurance companies. Read the fine print before comitting to any out of country medical plan. You might think you 're covered but in reality you are not. We all know how insurance will look for any little ' technicality' to deny a claim.

Isey (Oct 18, 2019 at 6:56)

Most If not all swedish travel insurances cover mountainbiking accidents. However they do not cover skydiving, motorcross, uncertified scubadiving.

bok-CZ FL (Oct 17, 2019 at 15:13)

I'm all about to donate. Jordie is a legend!

But tell me what kind of a world we are living in? Is this industry so poor to take a real care about their and our heroes?

Jcolis1904 (Oct 18, 2019 at 12:26)

I can’t cite anything or provide factual data but we can probably assume Insurance and Pharmaceutical companies get even profit and tax breaks to fund a system that allows medical debt forgiveness to families going through tragedies such as this

Health Insurance, medical and pharmaceutical companies should not be a free and private sector market since it’s built to help people but tainted by greedy people

photog1950 (Oct 18, 2019 at 16:04)

Not sure what coverage Jordie had for out of country travel insurance but It's critical to read the fine print and ask questions and explain what activities you're undertaking. Since Rampage is here shortly this article puts things in perspective?
www.pinkbike.com/news/risk-vs-reward-contest-insurance-2014.html

photog1950 (Oct 18, 2019 at 16:17)

The costs for coverage is cheap through BCAA, a multi-trip- 30day max is 100-200$ PER YEAR, but it depends on your age as well. The pro rider coverage is another $40/yr and if you have a known injury or medical condition add on $20. So for around $250 bucks you can ride, compete and damage your body to a value of $10 million in coverage. So why risk it all for the little rewards these contests may hand out to the winners while the losers could go home broke for life? Just get complete medical coverage and ride smart.
I wrote this piece back in 2014 and since Rampage is around the corner it sheds light on coverage for riders. Link to PB
www.pinkbike.com/news/risk-vs-reward-contest-insurance-2014.html

alex-rsd (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:20)

No medical Insurance? I don't travel outside Canada without Travel/Medical insurance. I would imagine that it would cover most expenses, including worst case scenarios.

syeve (Oct 17, 2019 at 12:45)

I suppose there is a time and place for this discussion.

alex-rsd (Oct 17, 2019 at 13:24)

@syeve: i wasn't trying to be insensitive. just surprised.

Furthermore, a lot of credit card companies offer out of country medical insurance if you purchase your ticket with the card. I'm sure the family already looked into that, but it's worth mentioning since most people don't know.

syeve (Oct 17, 2019 at 14:21)

@FrantikLex: I hear you. I agree with you on the importance of being covered 100%.

steveshannon (Oct 17, 2019 at 19:45)

He had insurance, but costs are expected to run higher than the insurance covers due to it being out of the country.

RowanH (Oct 17, 2019 at 22:31)

Out of interest I went and looked at a policy I had of recent travel insurance that I purposely looked for when travelling to the States to make sure I'd be covered Mountain Biking. I was surprised how much I had to look to *make sure* a policy listed mountain biking - noting that any competition was not allowed. They certainly have some grey areas in "you're not covered if...." that if they wanted to weasel out of coverage they could give it a go.

Looking at the limits it had $50k NZD coverage for accidental death, and unlimited medical expenses. Kinda grey if what happens if you required lots of treatment then passed away. Is it unlimited? or is it capped at 50k?..... If it's 50kNZD (30k USD).. that wouldn't go far at all.

Obviously not commenting at all on the specifics for the family, but I can see how very easy it would be to get caught out on this or think you're covered and not, or an a-hole insurance company weaseling out.

alex-rsd (Oct 18, 2019 at 2:31)

@steveshannon: if he had travel/medical insurance that would be to cover him abroad.That's the point of medical insurance when you travel. yes, i understand there are probably limitations.
But maybe the reason the cost went so much higher is simply because of the severity of the event, rather than being out of the country.

way2manyhobbies2keep (Oct 18, 2019 at 8:54)

@RowanH: why do you think all news outlets are saying he was riding XC......... fer tha insurance

warmerdamj FL (Oct 21, 2019 at 9:38)

I would think that when you put yourself in danger you may not be covered and that could be in play here. Even if Jordie was riding something tame by his standards the insurance company could think otherwise.

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High-Life (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:17)

Where are you, sponsors?

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brianpark FL Editor (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:56)

I know that several of Jordie’s sponsors have come up huge in the wake of this tragedy—and that’s just the ones I’ve heard about.

Just because brands aren’t shouting from the rooftops that they’ve donated or supported in other ways doesn’t mean they haven’t or aren’t planning to.

tobiusmaximum (Oct 17, 2019 at 13:24)

@brianpark: well said, i was all in favour of brook mcdonalds sponsors helping him out and making it apparent that they hadn't shirked a moral(?) responsibility, but in hindsight.. how on earth would you even begin to communicate that you had covered some/all costs without it looking like a publicity stunt? which, in this tragic case, cannot possibly be allowed to be the perceived outcome.

robito (Oct 17, 2019 at 17:42)

@tobiusmaximum: This is a good point I hadn’t thought about, but when the families are asking for help to me that says sponsors didn’t step up enough if at all.

karoliusz (Oct 18, 2019 at 0:00)

I have much respect for what Jordie was doing and for his input in development of freeride, but... I also travel a lot. I don’t throw myself down a tree, or do backflips in the middle of the desert. Still everytime I go abroad (even for sightseeing) I buy myself an insurance, which covers medical treatment and in worst case transport of the body back home. I have an employer, who pays me every month for my work, but I’m sure he wouldn’t pay a single penny if I had an accident (no matter if business related or not).
So back to Jordi’s case - he had sponsors, who were paying him for his dangerous job. It was his responsibility to take care of himself and get insured. Unfortunately looks like he didn’t, which is sad.
This should be (another) warning for the pro athletes, to act like a pro and take care of potential risks, which are huge in this sport.

dufoz (Oct 18, 2019 at 11:20)

@karoliusz: I did not want to write thé same kind of post, but i indeed find hard to believe that pro riders like him Are not insured fór this kind of stuff.

scotttherider FL (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:25)

What sucks is in the states they can’t go after your family members when you die. They can go after your estate for funds but beyond that they can’t bill your family.

Branmuffin (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:55)

This. Not married, no kids, Don’t pay these ridiculous charges. They can’t come after his parents for the debt. So terrible, if insurance can’t cover it they can go after his estate but that should be it.

scotttherider FL (Oct 17, 2019 at 16:07)

@Branmuffin: with it being Mexico they may not release his body.

dimitree (Oct 18, 2019 at 18:20)

If the family couldn't pay the bills they shouldn't have purchased the service. Now it's the people's problem to pay. Perhaps families can start using their brains vs continuing to be irresponsible. Every Tom, Dick and Harry try to put the costs on everyone else. Plan for a rainy day... not a difficult concept.

nilspecialzed09 (Oct 17, 2019 at 13:23)

No credit card no donation.... why isn´t there a paypal option ?

kosFoo (Oct 17, 2019 at 23:00)

USA is so f*cked up! Every time when someone gets sick or hurt a fundraiser has to be started. In Switzerland, a lot is going wrong too, but in such cases, you would not see a single bill!

Whats wrong with you? Ah, wait a moment... You live in a country governed via Twitter by a rich for the rich!

korev FL (Oct 18, 2019 at 2:40)

That's true for those of us who work (accident insurance comes from the employer here); but a visitor from outside of Europe would get a huge bill.

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gnarnaimo FL (Oct 18, 2019 at 6:36)

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this has nothing to do with the USA at all.

jwdenver (Oct 18, 2019 at 8:20)

He died in Mexico and he had Canadian health insurance. GFY

kosFoo (Oct 19, 2019 at 10:55)

@gnarnaimo: Sorry, my comment is at the completely wrong place then. Still true ????

savagelake (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:42)

the donation link on the actual R2R page is not working for me. how about u guys?

brianpark FL Editor (Oct 17, 2019 at 11:45)

Worked for me. Maybe a browser issue?

savagelake (Oct 17, 2019 at 12:29)

@brianpark: no worky on iphone. will try the laptop. thx.

brianpark FL Editor (Oct 17, 2019 at 12:51)

@savagelake: are you seeing it at the bottom of the page? They really should move it up to the top, but it did work for me.

savagelake (Oct 17, 2019 at 14:25)

@brianpark: ah, thx! i was trying to click this text up by the photos: "Please find the Road 2 Recovery donation page here."

Mishtar (Oct 17, 2019 at 15:05)

Does anyone know if this site is charging your CC in Canadian funds or is it USD?

nwmlarge (Oct 18, 2019 at 0:01)

The sponsors cover the bills, no question, why haven't they done this already?

nwmlarge (Oct 18, 2019 at 0:04)

Yes, I've donated.

slope (Oct 18, 2019 at 5:35)

If an adult dies how does the cost fall upon the family??

fullendurbro (Oct 17, 2019 at 12:26)

Donation link isn't working.

AshHaushaltswaren (Oct 17, 2019 at 23:16)

I donate 10$... it's not much, but a little bit of appreciation.

rptiger (Oct 18, 2019 at 13:43)

If you insure your car, why wouldn't you insure your life.

geoffmorales (Oct 18, 2019 at 4:54)

RIP legend!

nathanduran (Oct 18, 2019 at 12:25)

Rockstar should cover the medical bills. They would most likely would have if he was still alive. They make enough money this would be nothing.

concretesystem (Oct 19, 2019 at 7:08)

Man rest easy JL.

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