Video: Canada"u Gets Gnarly by dau-corporate

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captain-sandbag (Jun 30, 2014 at 21:19)

I'm a trail builder and I fully think the riders are in the right here. If these guys found this trail on their own and it's not on private property (and built with landowner permission) you have no right to bitch and moan. You sound like whiny ass 5 year olds that built a sand castle in the playground and then got pissed when the other kids stepped on it.

Building a trail does not make it 'yours' unless you actually own the land you built it on, or someone does and they gave you permission. Even then it's really theirs and they just got themselves some free landscaping. If you want to build what you think are secret trails on crown land or whatever these are on, go right ahead but don't expect them to go unridden, unless you hide them really well, which obviously you didn't. Even if you do think you hid them really well, if someone finds them it doesn't make them an a*shole, it makes you shitty at hiding trails.

Self righteous builders with a god complex piss me off. If you think you have a right to build it then you're a hipocrite if you don't think others have the right to ride it.

findawg6 (Jul 2, 2014 at 5:09)

EXACTLY @tinfoil, I mean please correct me if I am wrong but trails are there to be ridden right??! and if they want nobody to ride their own trails how about they buy some land, fence it off and then nobody will ride them, otherwise those riders have 100% rights to go ahead and ride those trails.

dau-corporate (Jul 2, 2014 at 9:52)

It's actually even easier...
When you meet one of the shaper up there in Sun Peaks who recommends you to get on that track and gives you the indications.. You're kind of welcomed to ride there, aren't you?

myanh (Jul 2, 2014 at 16:54)

So luckynugget go after your friend apparently he give a hint !

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LoamChompsky (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:55)

There's no indication of where the trail is as far as I can see, so what's the problem with someone filming them? Damaging them is a different matter, but I'm not sure I see much of that either. I've put a lot of time into a few local trails, and one thing I've realised is that sometimes builders love a little bit of drama, or more often their friends do.

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myanh (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:00)

2350 people view the secret trail we are all coming tomorrow we charter few A380. Please be prepare

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luckynugget (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:03) (Below Threshold)

I have a hard time believing you have put as much time into trails if you can't see the damage these guys are doing. It doesn't help that the trend in edits right now is to literately roost and tear up as much trail as possible.

paulinator FL (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:09)

My thoughts here are than luckynugget wanted to film that trail for a post too, but these guys poached that from him. He has a film gig by the looks of his page. Film your edit with some actual good biking on this trail, showcase what it actually is.

Hobbs4 (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:12)

Loam the problem happens when the builders want to film the work they have done. Then they log on pinkbike and see some randoms have not only poached the lines they have been working very hard on, but put together a rushed edit of it and stuck it on pinkbike before the trail is even 100% done. If you didn't dig it or were not invited to film keep your camera's in you dang truck.

LoamChompsky (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:15)

Strangely enough it doesn't bother me in the slightest what you may believe or not luckynugget. Maybe I'm wrong about the damage to the trail, I watched the edit twice and didn't see anything outside of normal usage. I could be wrong though, and if that's the case like it is in about 90% of generic roosting cutty brostep boring edits at the moment you have a point. My reason for posting at all is to suggest that filming a secret trail, that is still secret as far as I know, or at least the location hasn't been disclosed by this edit, isn't worthy of the holier than thou criticism it's recieving.

luckynugget (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:28)

@paulinator I have no use filming a trail I've already filmed, with permission. If I hadn't though, and did work on something with the intent to film it, and other people come and film it first, can you please explain how that puts me in the wrong?

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LoamChompsky (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:47)

Sounds like the locals need to learn how to keep schtum on these "secret" trails, rather than slagging tourists.

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tuboy95 (Jun 30, 2014 at 21:45)

I find it funny because this trail is a few years old and has been filmed before and these guys only filmed about 5 jumps which isn't even half of it... It is an amazingly built trail though but I just think when you build trails you should in some way or another expect people to ride it and film it. And if you want to be the first person to film it don't wait a couple years...

Hobbs4 (Jun 30, 2014 at 21:58)

well the stuff that i was talking about hasnt been filmed yet well till now i guess. whatever im over it the point is put some effort in to find the guys that make the trails before you film they might have other plans for it all.

wuzupjosh (Jul 1, 2014 at 2:37)

correct me if im wrong but these are all the small hits on gnarcroft rite? i have a small understanding of where it is . i live in ab and i have buddy sin bc who deffinately dont knw the guys who built the trails out there and they know where it is . unless this trail look surprisingly similiar to it , it honestly not that secret , consent or not i dont see the problem with filming a trail that has already been filmed

ilikebikes1 (Jul 1, 2014 at 9:34)

This trail is super easy to find its not actually that big of a secret this is Gnarcroft it has been filmed in dozens of edits. My buddies did basically the exact same trip as this CANADA U did but we did ours like a month ago and we hit gnarcroft too its super easy like right at the side of the road easy.

paulinator FL (Jul 1, 2014 at 14:33)

@luckynugget Your not in the wrong, just trying to figure out why it was bothering you so much. And I think I nailed it. You should post a better edit of that trail on here, something with a little less sketchy riding like the featured video.

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Phill-R (Jul 1, 2014 at 1:57)

Anyone who has lived in Sun Peaks, or Kamloops and owns, or has owned an mtb knows where this trail is. Meet pretty much any local on the lift and they will point you straight to it- probably join in on the fun and ride it with you to. I personally enjoy the edits this group of riders are doing. It's nice to see some regular joes out there having fun. As much as I love sick whips and cruise blasting berms variety is the spice of life. Canada U, Great work- keep it up!

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SuperSlowDH (Jul 1, 2014 at 7:46)

I agree completely. These guys are out shredding and doing a good job. The videos give the feeling of a lifetime road trip and that's exactly what they are trying to capture. Bunch of average Joes just like 99% of us (although most won't admit) out having a great time. Don't get pissed because they filmed the smaller hits on a trail filmed by every kid in kamloops and kelowna. They didn't just stumble upon the trail, someone directed them there.

quinnslander (Jul 1, 2014 at 22:15)

Phill? is that you?

Phill-R (Jul 2, 2014 at 4:39)

Quinnstagram?

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quinnslander (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:49)

Are there contact details pinned to a tree? How would one know a private trail from a public one, unless it is private land that is? I would agree though that if you ride a trail you should always turn up with a shovel and help maintain. And for the heros, most of us are mediocre riders.

luckynugget (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:56)

Hell most builders like me are mediocre riders! If you had to spend time hunting down a trail, instead of finding it on a map, thats when you know you should be asking permission.

Mini-Pinner (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:09)

That doesn't answer the question of how they were supposed to contact you. You should have a sign or something. Also, what difference does it make whether they film or not. They didn't reveal the location so i don't think there is a problem with that. As far the BMX thing, its a completely different community. It goes against everything mtb to get angry at these guys for having fun riding their bikes and sharing it with everyone. The only thing that you might have any reason to be concerned about is trail damage but the trails are so hard packed that i dont think there would have been much if any.

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luckynugget (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:41) (Below Threshold)

I'm plenty happy they had fun. I'm happy they got to share it with everyone. But if you can't get permission, simply do not film it until you can figure out who built it and get in contact. Putting up your personal information on a sign at a trail would be a great way to land yourself legal troubles.

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MoritzHeyer (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:08)

am I the only one that thinks the riding of these dudes is not that sick!?

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fade-to-black (Jun 30, 2014 at 21:38) (Below Threshold)

there is a whole bunch of whistler locals who shred much harder than them, why do they get a whole series and support?

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wake-n-rake (Jun 30, 2014 at 23:28)

Maybe they asked?

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Stralov (Jul 1, 2014 at 1:42)

because they put the effort in it to produce it?! and they did it in the past with scandinavia. so i'm fine with that they aren't the hardest shredders.

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wuzupjosh (Jul 1, 2014 at 2:37) (Below Threshold)

ill take theyre place , no offence but they cant whip for shit

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yyc650b (Jul 1, 2014 at 8:33)

Who cares how they ride. At least there out there having fun traveling and enjoying life. Maybe when you guys get past the age of 17 and move out of Mom and Dad's house you will get some life experience.

frenchyroast (Jul 1, 2014 at 9:56)

If you're going to do a whole series or just planning a long road trip, it isn't wise to go too hardcore for an injury would put a huge damper on your arrangements.

dh257mx (Jul 1, 2014 at 23:38)

Y'all are a bunch of negative nancies filling up the jelly jar haha

MoritzHeyer (Jul 2, 2014 at 18:45)

well the thing is, I really like what they do, that they shred but the whole production is so big n good that I expected more, I mean the filming is really good and they are sponsored and everything but from my point of view there is no style at all and they are not even crazy fast downhill shredders...

wuzupjosh (Jul 2, 2014 at 23:06)

^this guys knows it all ^ your spot on

sopi (Jul 1, 2014 at 3:17)

Stop being dicks about the trails! They didnt damage them and if they would i think that them fix it aswell! Why be so owning about everything! Enjoy the fact that These guys enjoyed your trail! That means that you who built the trail did a hell of bad ass good job for the riding society !?! Something to be proud of.

Except that this trail has been on video before..

sterlingmagnum (Jul 1, 2014 at 6:41)

Its bad enough that people in today's (as well as past) society feel they have the right to own material items, feel they have the right to own homes, land, cars etc. News flash you don't own shit. Nature will out own all of us, and this is nature. We are a mere blip in the radar, we do not exist really if you think about it in the grand scheme of things. Now this is an entirely new one to own something that is not yours to begin with. Public land? Private land? Squatters rights? It is land. If you build it...they will come, so be prepared to share.

owlie (Jul 1, 2014 at 8:39)

Dont get all philosophical this early in the week...

sterlingmagnum (Jul 1, 2014 at 15:59)

he he

bryanmckinlay (Jul 1, 2014 at 0:48)

Every one of the video's in this series just makes me want to get outside with my mates and play on the trails. You guys do a really good job capturing just how fun this sport is. Keep 'em coming!

parkortrail34 (Jul 1, 2014 at 2:46)

Does anyone else notice that this trail is in aggys segment of strength in numbers, it's not like hundreds of thousands of people haven't seen this track already

mtbking1999 (Jul 2, 2014 at 21:51)

yah its called "gnarcroft" brad built it for Aggy and Matt Miles

Stralov (Jul 1, 2014 at 1:44)

That was the best episode! Such a nice atmosphere. This trail is amazing and you showed us how its like to ride it when you're not Aggy. How much where the bigger balls in the supermarket?

dau-corporate (Jul 1, 2014 at 12:26)

Cheers! Didn't find any supermarket selling some ..yet! Keep in touch haha

Stralov (Jul 1, 2014 at 12:57)

think you don't need to buy them any more... they grew a bit

keep it up!

Satn69 (Jul 1, 2014 at 5:35)

Share the trails ya babies! Waaa waaaa waaa!! Fuk u don't own shit.

Satn69 (Jul 1, 2014 at 5:39)

It's like finding a bag of cash that someone tried to hide from the taxman and u found it. U expect someone to track u down and give you a call? Hey and then call the taxman at the same time?

Hey what if one of those filmers had an accident on your trail? They suppose to call u up and sue your ass? Maybe call the landowners to help find who built the trails and then sue them?

SuperSlowDH (Jul 1, 2014 at 7:49)

Good point. You want all rights to the trail? You collect responsibility then, lol.

buildsomething (Jul 1, 2014 at 8:37)

No Trespassing, no problem. If the builders wanted to keep this trail a secret the entrance would not be visible. I don't think the builders have any problem with this trail being used for video or at least most of them wouldn't.

dirtchurner (Jul 1, 2014 at 12:36)

WOW! Lucky us! Let's see. What did all you sick, send-it, hucksters do before internet and gopro?

Oh, uh not sure I would preclude. I was around way back then and the answer is?

We rode, we dug trail, AND we wished we had a way to share our passion with the rest of the world so they could know what we feel and experience in the freedom of riding.

NOW there is a way and now there is the "whine" to go with all the great cheese. Be glad there is still trail to ride. UNlike down here in SO-Cal (SAND DAG) where the govt or inverstors or city has down major land grabs. Be glad to ride, Be glad that builders are still building trail in this shrinking world, Take care of each others trails, smile, share and ride, jump often drink good swill and repeat. Time is short!!!

V/R

DIrt CHurner (San Diego)

southshorepirate FL (Jun 30, 2014 at 18:09)

I love the frank translation. 'or simply bigger than our balls' hah! nice!

Slowjams (Jun 30, 2014 at 18:11)

Really been enjoying this series. Quality stuff.

Coyotecrash (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:21)

Best one of the series. Really good stuff.
Oh, and guys, by the way, if you find the store that sells steel balls, let me know where.
May need some extra for next week-end

beerandbikes (Jul 1, 2014 at 3:49)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef52D-FJTDg

jahart138 (Jul 1, 2014 at 10:37)

stop arguing, I saw a video shot on this trail about a month ago. It's already been done

molabiker111 (Jul 1, 2014 at 22:07)

i hate dicks that bitch about others using, and not destroing their trails, SHARING IS CARING!

dhftw1231 FL (Jun 30, 2014 at 18:25)

im really diggin that intro beat

fatwheels123 (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:56)

If you know it's an "secret" trail, you had better be damn sure it's ok with the main trail builder to be filming. Way too much work and effort put into this and other trails to risk trail poaching or closure.

nathanh (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:58)

Exactly what Lucky nugget is saying

beerandbikes (Jul 1, 2014 at 3:32)

Localism is a thing in mountain biking too

peanutbuter (Jul 1, 2014 at 12:36)

2.36 fucking gays

TheLongMan (Jul 1, 2014 at 1:41)

Gnarcroft!

sasquatchkona (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:47)

stole the song from where the trail ends

quinnwd1 (Jun 30, 2014 at 18:30)

nar croft... fucking sick

steezus (Jun 30, 2014 at 18:37)

I think one of those trails you stumbled upon was gnarcroft...

mFlynn (Jul 1, 2014 at 1:56)

looks like it to me.

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luckynugget (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:16)

It is plain disrespectful to film secret trails without asking permission. I am not the builder of this trail but I have put in a fair bit of time helping work on it. I am good friends with the builder and current maintainer of the trail. He was very disappointed to see this. Perhaps ediquite is different where you are from, but here in canada it is common knowledge to ask permission before filming private trails. It seems more and more people are forgetting the effort that goes into building. Riding over lips and landings (1:16 and so on) creates a lot of hassle for the builders. It is like nails on a chalkboard to see someone roosting and slashing something that has had so much effort put into it. As someone who takes their filming and building quite seriously, I strongly recommend you learn basic ediquite before doing something like this again.

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myanh (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:29)

Is it on a private land ?

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luckynugget (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:36) (Below Threshold)

That's not how it works. No one is out there stopping someone from riding a trail, its when you produce an edit on it that really gets annoying. Finding something doesn't give you full rights to something, crown land or private. It's a shame most riders don't get this. I think with more and more public bike parks opening, less people know what it's like to actually go out and spend weeks working on a trail, leading to a false sense of entitlement when riders stumble upon something that isn't theirs. Usually most builders are quite chill about this, and ask only a few hours help digging to compensate, if that. It's just hard when you see video of people destroying lips and landings with no effort to fix their damage.

myanh (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:45)

So i will ask my question again, is it on a private land ?

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luckynugget (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:49)

Perhaps its a question that you aren't supposed to ask. You are only showing your ignorance for the sport. The real sport, not privatized trails that you pay to ride, but trails built by actual riders with passion for what they are doing. If you can't respect the hard work of others, you deserve to ride nothing more than thrashed public trail, paying your way to ride instead of working for it. MTB isn't about legal land matters. Land owners can shut down private trails anytime they want. If this was bmx, and they filmed someones bmx trails without permission, especially further along the coast, they would be dead. They are lucky this is mountain biking where people are much more lax about this sort of thing. That said, ignorance in riders like you who have never picked up a shovel is what is killing the sport. You seem to have never been somewhere with nothing to ride but what what you make yourself, therefor you do not understand what it is like to see people damaging something you have actually put time in.

myanh (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:53)

Your funny keep digging !!)

Danntana78 (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:55)

Agree with LuckyNugg..., I have trails that have been completely raped out by the "enduro" crowd here in Santa Cruz.
#PICK UP A F#CKIN SHOVEL

luckynugget (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:00)

^You know whats up! Sadly this is a trend that trailbuilders are not going to win.

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paulinator FL (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:05)

Somebody better call the waaaahmbulance.

paulwatt (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:41)

If the trail wasn't finished, it's bad form to shoot it. But it is (probably?) Crown land, so it's tough for anyone to get too pissed at people having fun and doing what they do in a public space. There's way more important things to be pissed off about, that's for sure. Maybe those boys can come back with shovels and a couple cases of beer when they return.

VwHarman (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:45)

People all say your whining, but they don't consider the etiquette and community that is supposed to exist in biking in the real world. It is disrespectful. Parks are roost city if you want, fine. Leave local trails rideable and how they were intended, which wasn't for Bros to poach.

luckynugget (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:48)

Exactly. Nobody knows basic trail ediquitte anymore!

tuboy95 (Jun 30, 2014 at 22:06)

Last time I checked trails aren't "secret" when you can walk into a bike shop and they'll draw you a map to it! Look at Rio, that trail was waaay more secret and now it is a reason people travel to Kamloops which, in turn supports the sport.

betsie (Jun 30, 2014 at 23:02)

I build my fair share.
Feel free to come and film them.
If you get totally peeeed off with the end you row (that is the opposite end from the cox. I make that the a hole or where the i is hidden in TEAM) boys skiddin your work away. Just build a gnarlier trail somewhere that they can't ride. Build all the lips huge so they can't ride them.

Just wish I had your landscape, conditions and long warm summer months to dig in. I would never be in the house.
Some good looking building there.

wake-n-rake (Jun 30, 2014 at 23:18)

FFS it's "etiquette"!

poopsmell (Jun 30, 2014 at 23:44)

if that shitshow showed up to ride and film my trail i would stop them.
if you ride handbuilt trails like you are in a bike park than you are an a$$hole.

findawg6 (Jul 2, 2014 at 4:50)

please correct me if I am wrong but aren't trails made for riding? and I understand how it would be politer to actually ask for permission but its a bit of a one off really. maybe you should buy some land and fence it off and make a trail there. then nobody will ride it.

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Hobbs4 (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:15)

hey thanks for poaching my builds thats freaken awesome. you know just because you are on a trip doesnt mean you get to film what ever you want.

chair1films (Jun 30, 2014 at 20:26)

Looks like gnarcroft am I right? Either way, amazing trail props for building that

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fabe (Jun 30, 2014 at 21:42)

You know just because you built some jumps doesnt mean you can prevent people to film what ever they want.
Since there is no damage and it’s not YOUR land, you cannot blame people who comes to ride and have fun on “your” trail, especially if they are traveling.

jhowe001 (Jun 30, 2014 at 22:00)

^^ agreed ^^

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Hobbs4 (Jun 30, 2014 at 22:04) (Below Threshold)

Its just the polite thing to do I suppose would be to ask.

betsie (Jun 30, 2014 at 22:51)

You should feel pride and honour that the not only rode your trail but in a short period seemed to become better riders from riding it. Props to you for building it. I love building, the only things that narks me is people riding the section you are building as you are building it and the local 45 year old pro "I think I can ride" xc guy trashing jumps just because they are too big for him, therefore nobody can ride them.

Great looking trail btw with some nice looking jumps that make the most of the landscape. Now go film it and link it off this pinkbike article.

nathanh (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:35)

I agree with Keenan. This was kind of ride not asking permission and not treating the trail right and being respectful.

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reidhresko (Jun 30, 2014 at 21:25)

This trail isn't a secret, it's just that you don't see douchebags posting poorly filmed edits of mediocre riding on it. It is neat you guys are on a trip. High fives all around. But your riding doesn't deserve to be on Pinkbike. Please stop. Please don't post another shitty edit of A-Line when you get to Whistler. Just enjoy your trip, try not to get crabs in the village, and enjoy your time with bros, since you certainly aren't pros.

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jhowe001 (Jun 30, 2014 at 22:03)

WTF how hard do you rip? What a troll effort...

WhatsEnduro (Jul 1, 2014 at 0:26)

reid dude, what the hell are you doing on pinkbike

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carbonbootprint (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:29)

Weak move by some mediocre riders. This video should be removed.

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luckynugget (Jun 30, 2014 at 19:43) (Below Threshold)

Very weak move...