Prototype Foes DH Bike and New AMX Hardtail Video Bike Check - Sea Otter 2010

 as much of a foes fan as i am, this guy is right. lovin the hardtail though!

 well that is why they call it a proto type.... so that they get it out there and then people comment on what they think should be changed and looked at then they take another look at it and do some tweaking

 Well you heard brent foes put an emphasis on "stiff"... can't have high torsional stiffness without a large mainframe. But if everybody b*tches enough I'm sure they'll change it up. Word to they guy above me

 Both bikes are ugly IMO. The hardtail looks like a frankenbike where they simply welded a spare piece of tubing where the shock should go.

 haha and i see my mom at 2:38! no joke

 waoh, somebody took the jelly out of your donut!

 Foes always looked to me like some small manufacturer of super cars like Saleen... I loved the massive red frames. But now it just goes bullocks! it does not look crappy, it just looks like someone tried really, reaaally hard... to do something different or new... I mean, as they looked at the computer screen even before they actualy started cutting tubes and welding up a prototype, haven't they noticed that something is just wrong?

And this small tube joining the upper pivot with the bottom bracket?! WTHell?! Hans I want you to spend two weeks hydroforming and shaping this top tube all the way to the pivot,
spend another month on trying to make it so it also supports the seat tube, then we will hire a spacecraft engineer Pedro von Haisen that will see if we can also incorporate a support for the shock in it without welds. After half a year of R&D: Boss you didn't explain how do we connect the pivot with bottom bracket! And its Sea Otter next week. Should we prolong the head tube as we already done som much strange and advanced things to it? No! Go to Janet from Marketing Department and borrow her Dildo!

 If you listen real carefully, he says its a 2.2857:1 ratio.
Yielding 8" of travel from a 3.5" stroke shock.

 Cool, thanks. I'm just surprised at the move away from their 2:1 as they swore it was the best thing since sliced bread. Ah well.

 im with u dude, so gross

 you guys sound like a bunch of chicks.

 and that people aren't down to pay that much for a hardtail...common, ellsworth hardtails aren't even that much

 These guys used to be pioneers of DH in the 90's. They are so far off the back that box-store brands like GT and Mongoose make sicker, more affordable DH rigs. BOOOOOO!

 I DH'd on a Norco wolverine (Don't recommend it), but there was a guy at our local races on a Norco Sasquatch and was running times with the Elite men.

 Dude I've DH'd on a Wolverine too, for the full day, my knees were killing me the day after

 ya some my friends use to ride hardtails but all of them just got fulls and it was pretty funny cause some times they won a race and everyone else just looked really sad and mad. they rode brodie Cretin another rode a kona shred

 thats not a triangle. that is a... wtf is that!?

 I think you ex just neg propped you.

 You must hate most new products on the market.

 how bout a bike that looks clean and nut friendly that is functional? new glory looks clean is a great ride, 951 nice low slung lines and sticks to the ground, sessions, yeti 303dhr(orwhatever letters are), Demo 8, Evil Revolt, new Tranny 450... want me to go on?? I dunno mang, I don't want this to turn into a pinkbike flame war but... i suppose to each is his own but i see the group of racers and riders being into this may be a small crowd and not the numbers foes needs to consider production. just looks like it would be absolutely a miserable pig to swing a leg over. I think Foes is without a doubt capable of making a far better product then what they got going on here. fin.

 but more awkward!

 so true