PINKBIKE FIELD TEST
5 Enduro Bikes and 4 eMTBs
On the Impossible Climb
What comes down, must go up
If you've seen our previous Field Tests then you may have tuned in to the Impossible Climb feature to check out which bikes are handy on the uphills compared to the ones that need some encouragement. This year we added some eMTBs to the enduro class, but that didn't necessarily mean that they scaled the walls with the push of a button. We wanted to put the bikes in these two categories head to head and determine if the best descenders were the worst climbers.
With the help of the Sun Peaks Bike Park patrol, we closed off a segment of a technical blue descent trail and set out to tackle our Impossible Climb. This single track was littered with roots, covered in tree needles and a fine dust with plenty of rock steps that required an extra punch to master. All of the Maxxis control tires were set to equal pressures and the climb switch on each shock was left open for maximum traction.
Again, it was the two lighter and more conservative enduro bikes that made it closest to the top, with the We Are One Arrival actually summiting the challenge. The YT Capra was a close second, with the two high pivot idler bikes, the Norco Range and GT Force Carbon falling a little short with their extra equipment. Bridging the gap between those two pairs was the light, but aggressive stature of the Transition Spire, proving its all-around capabilities.
Now, for the eMTBs, Mike Levy, our unpaid intern, did have to alter the course by adding more features, but this was a true test of what you might encounter on the trail and we pushed them to the limit of what is capable with both on and off the ground maneuvers. For these capable ascenders, all motors were set to the "trail" mode, with the exception of the Kenevo SL, which was left in "turbo" with its smaller motor output, since these settings actually made climbing the most predictable.
It wasn't as simple as setting each bike to boost and smashing the pedals. There was still technique and timing needed to tackle these climbs. The name of the game was momentum and consistent pedal power to eliminate any spinning. At opposite ends of the spectrum, the light and low Yeti 160E showed its might early on, while the Norco Range VLT and its gobs of travel surprised us with the highest mark, barely.
From this super-non-scientific test it seems that that the overall weight of the enduro bikes plays a factor, as does drivetrain efficiency. Those idler serve a great purpose on the descents, but do sap some energy on the uphills, even on our short climb. Geometry also plays into things here, as the Range VLT proved it can overcome its weight, with a comfortable, steep-seated position. Although the Yeti did feel the easiest to manage, even over the lighter Kenevo SL, which felt more like a non-assist bike, requiring the most attention to line choice and power delivery.
First i've ever heard of this. Tell me more
Note: He must be paid in donuts. It is the law of the woods.
? on your efficiency test.
Meta power - 5792 ft in 1:57
Yeti - 4569 ft in 1:20
So these two with the same motor in Boost and got totally different results on the same climb? The Heavier meta power got an extra 1200ish feet and 37 minutes more on the same battery?
It would be good to share the overall process. Does each bike only get one run or do you just show the best out of three? Are the bikes shown in order of attempts or were the attempts randomized?
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Am I doing this right?
The PinkBike Rebels are thwarting them!
Also when its not all that steep and youre pedaling with the seat down 2 or 3 inches youre still active on the bike and moving it around. Actual riding rather than being at the end of a jacked seat inhibiting the bike just because you need leg extension to turn over the cranks and keep moving. If you have assist, you have momentum so keep playing on the bike on moderate climbs
On an extra long CS ebike (450+), standing drains you since you have to hover your butt in the general area where the saddle would be, else the rear will be prone to slipping. That's quite a bit rearwards with a bike angled up over 30°. I'd rather ebikes be short CS with steeper STA, like the Mt Bromo, to minimize the need to get in this position.
While I hate these "street fighter" video game technique descriptions, if I were to describe my own habit, I'd say that I just rotate my hips forward (pushing my belly button forward), pull back on the bars (to spread my weight on the bar and saddle), and basically set myself up to furiously spin the cranks in hope that brute force momentum and balance carries me past the difficult parts, steering by twisting my hips if needed. Have 10k miles on my emtb and have been able to climb dusty 45° slopes (no slippery roots, but the soil being past the angle of repose makes it a challenge).
All joking aside, I'm sure Matt did an excellent job piloting the bikes the higher any of us are going to get them.
Perfect reason to own one. 100% justifiable!
It depends on the chainring. If you have a big chainring then a 52T might be good for tech climbs. Personally, never went 12-speed and had a 52T cog. But I do use my 42T cog on rocky, rooty, technical climbs. Yeah, pedal strikes can happen on any rocky, rooty technical climbs, but that is why you have to time your pedaling and be aware of your pedal positions.
Enduro is all about descending and send it!
jjzzeee....
E.g. the Bosch CX from about 2017: terrible traction and too sudden power release in Turbo, but perfectly controllable (and nevertheless almost equally powerful) in "E-Bike" mode. (which should rather be called Trail mode)
And then you come up to the log with the eBike and are totally surprised by it? Clearly you took a better approach with a proper set up when you came up with the Specialized which makes it totally unfair for the first bike.
And whats the insight you gain anyways? If you manage a climb in 9/10 tries while the other bike only gets you 2/10, we can start talking about insights....
I really dislike tests like these because they give you a wrong impression. Pinkbike itself stated that idler pulleys create about 3% more drag. You really need to find me the guy that feels this difference on a rooty trail. I think there was a lot of "I know this bike must be worse at climbing" involved instead of neutral testing.
What is lame is no more beer slalom as the last obstacle or the box of donuts at the top.
For me, a video like this is just a waste of time (and resources better spent for real testing). I gain no insights, never laughed and will be subconciously biased when I look into buying a new bike. But that's just my personal opinion :-)
Maybe more info on Outside/Pinkbike tomorrow:
"Outside CEO to address cycling industry about Pinkbike, Cyclingtips, and Trailforks acquisitions"
www.outsidebusinessjournal.com/brands/media/outside-ceo-to-address-cycling-industry-about-pinkbike-cyclingtips-and-trailforks-acquisitions