Hope HB 130 Updated with Return to Boost Spacing, Mullet Conversion Rocker Upgrade and Factory Build

Oct 13, 2020
by James Smurthwaite  
Photos: Sam Needham

Just over a year after it first launched, Hope is rolling out a number of updates to its British made HB 130 trail bike. Hope has now apparently sold 250 of the carbon, 140mm/130mm travel bikes and has decided it is time to ring in some updates.

Although the mainframe remains largely the same, there's a return to a more conventional rear hub standard, more spec levels, a chance to get your hands on some rare Hope Green parts, and a Mullet conversion kit available as an upgrade.

Return to 148x12 Boost standard


On both the HB 160 and the launch version of the HB 130, Hope forged its own hub standard, the HB 130x17. The idea here was to reduce the width of the rear hub to 130mm for better clearance through Yorkshire gritstone while keeping the hub flanges sitting at a similar width apart to a boost hub. Space was saved between the frame and disc, and disc and spoke flanges, the spoke angle was also symmetrical which is touted as the ultimate solution for reliable wheel building. The hub axle was 17mm instead of 12mm, which is the size of Hope hub inner bearing races, the races sat directly on the axle, instead of on spacers on the axle.

Following customer feedback, Hope has redesigned the rear end of the bikes to now take standard 148x12 hubs to increase the compatibility. Hope said: "There is no gain in terms of performance, it just means that should an owner have an issue on a trip, it makes it easier to fit a standard wheel and enjoy the rest of their trip." The other benefit for Hope is that it allows the Barnoldswick brand to offer frames at a cheaper price.

Mullet Rocker Upgrade

While both standard builds come with 29" wheels front and rear, customers can opt to switch to a mullet set up thanks to an aftermarket upgrade from Hope. The switch is made by swapping out the standard rocker for a mullet specific one that will keep the rider in the same pedalling position but with a smaller rear wheel. Hope sells the rocker as part of a kit that also includes a Fortus 26w rear wheel and a Maxxis High Roller 2, 2.4" EXO TR tyre for £465.

Factory Race Build


Alongside the standard build, you can now get a FR, or Factory Race, build of the HB 130 complete with parts used by Hope's race team. This includes Ohlins suspension, a SRAM X01 drivetrain and DMR Deathgrips but most excitingly, a lot of green anodised Hope parts. Green anodised parts are normally only available to pro riders so to see them available on a regular build will have fans of the British brand eager their hands on some. From what we can see in the pictures provided by Hope, you get green bolts, brake levers, brake reservoir covers and brake calipers. There's also a custom paint job on this bike from Hope's in-house paint tech, Bailey.



The FR edition of the bike costs £7,299.99 with a frame only version available for £4,199.99.

More info, here.


73 Comments

  • 91 1
 No one, absolutely no one, could EVER have seen that hub switch coming...
  • 26 1
 Surprised they didn't do the "Oh you don't like our proprietary hub spacing? Well here, take this 'standard spacing'" and slap superboost ont here.
  • 34 0
 In their defense, that hub standard was more a proof of concept to show off their hubs, and to illustrate what is possible. Their machined rear ends make it easy to iterate on the rear hub spacing. They never set out to start a new standard, they never pushed it, and they probably never intended for their bike to sell so well.
  • 24 0
 If I was to buy their bike I would almost want the proprietary hub spec.
  • 14 3
 I'm surprised. Did anybody buy this bike that wasn't a hope fan boy? Does that change with new hub spacing? Could you imagine somebody buying this bike and swapping for i9s!
  • 6 11
flag HaggeredShins (Oct 13, 2020 at 7:55) (Below Threshold)
 I probably would have bought the HB130 back when it released as frame only if it weren't for the hub spacing. Now that cash is deep in three other builds. Perfect example of missing customers, sorry Hope Cry
  • 8 0
 @rustiegrizwold: Yeah, I’m pretty sure anyone who bought this bike was all-in on Hope, and the proprietary hub wasn’t a real issue.

The problem though, as the wrote above, is being in a remote place, like Moab for example, and breaking a proprietary hub on your fancy-pants boutique bike and there’s not a shop in town that can replace it. I’ve been there. It’s sucks.
  • 3 0
 @djbutcher13: very appropriate that you suddenly went all Yorkshire at the end there.
  • 1 0
 @privateer-wheels: you sound committed
  • 3 0
 @CircusMaximus: lol. Half committed at least. Plus or minus.
  • 2 2
 @TheR: I totally agree and I'm sure it sucks but with so many different wheel sizes, hub spacing, freehub bodies, etc. its going to be hard to find the correct wheel in general. If I had an issue with a microspline hub I'm still probably SOL in Moab or I am buying a wheel and expensive XD cassette.

Id rather just rent a bike for a couple days then spend even more money on something I don't want. Plus, if hope hubs are as good as everybody says then the chance of having an issue with the wheel outside of breaking the rim should be so small why worry about it?
  • 17 1
 @HaggeredShins: the rear hub was part of the beauty of the bike. They actually designed the entire bike from the ground up, without limitations set by today's standards. When Trek (?) And whoever invented boost, they half-assed it. All they did was add 6mm between the flanges. It was a small evolutionary gain, that didn't solve any of the other issues with 135/142mm hubs. Just a marginal gain in stiffness, but issues with dish and uneven spoke tension remain. Hope made a narrower hub that builds into a stronger rear wheel, while also narrowing the rear end of the bike. To me it's simply better engineered. The unfortunate part is that this may be a better hub 'standard' thank boost/superboost, and it just died.
  • 2 0
 @privateer-wheels: Nothing about any of that was a decision factor, though. It could be the greatest design in the world and still wouldn't have swayed my dollar votes.

What were decision factors include (1) an unproven design (2) needing to invest in a separate proprietary wheel to have a spare (not to mention replacement expendables likely requiring purchase from a small parts pool with no aftermarket support) and in the end (3) extremely low if any resale market for those spares and parts due to being well beyond even a niche

All the established 'standards' work fine for me and have the cross compatibility, support, and markets I'm looking for.
  • 2 0
 @rustiegrizwold: Yeah, in this case, you're probably right. The chance of the whole hub -- Hope or whatever -- going kaputt is probably pretty small. And then go ahead and rent. My issue was a derailleur hanger, which would also be an issue here with Hope. But, just rented a bike. At any rate, I guess it's as good a reason as any to make the change.
  • 4 0
 @HaggeredShins: That's perfectly fine logic to guide your purchase decisions. Same logic I'm sure was used for the revision. The original certainly was not for everyone, but it was still very cool regardless.
  • 2 2
 @TheR: I was in moab 2years ago. torrential rain wasnt expected & I was worrying low on hope rear brake pad. no shop in town stocked hope pads
  • 4 0
 @HaggeredShins: I doubt anyone buying a frame from Hope would be buying a hub from anyone but Hope Smile
  • 3 0
 @privateer-wheels: Totally agree! Innovation is always cool, but there's big time risk as a consumer to investing in something new (forget the spare wheel and hub parts, a $5000 usd frame!!) without a guaranteed future. As an sw engineer I get to see proprietary, niche products fade into obsolescence on a regular basis, usually leaving frustrated adopters behind.

I mean, we're seeing this risk in action right here. We're in an article about Hope doing a near 180 on their design 3 years after it dropped with the 160, based on customer feedback, seeing no new aftermarket, and a step closer to deprecating their own 17mm axle--and at the same time there are people downvoting my comment about not being economically shortsighted when this frame dropped. That on its own is kind of lol worthy Wink
  • 2 0
 @HaggeredShins: 100% get what you are saying. I wish they gave two option for a linkage combo that would allow for either/or. Boost, or proprietary.

Also can relate to the whole obsolescence thing. Though Hope is very good with post production support, even a decade after they have stopped production of something. If I was going to buy something risky, Hope would be one of the few companies I would trust to look after me regardless if the product succeeded or died an early death.

You make good points, for sure. Not sure why people feel the need to obsessively down vote sensible level-headed posts just because they don't agree with them.
  • 1 0
 @privateer-wheels: I agree the proprietary hub spec sounds good - I like the engineering reasons for doing it - but it wouldn't be ideal if you totalled your rear wheel and needed something else quickly. Both in the context of a race or a trip it could be pretty disastrous. You'd probably be okay as somebody who builds wheels for a living, but I think the rest of us would be struggling haha.
  • 36 1
 Only $7,200 Cdn for the frame. Phew, thought it was going to be expensive.
  • 8 2
 @bishopsmike haha. Here I was thinking that a another boutique bike brand was releasing yet another unaffordable bike. Boy was I wrong.
  • 4 1
 Yeah, they even included the rear shock. This is such a bargain.
  • 4 3
 Hey now, don't forget the rocker add on for another $760 cdn. Casual 8k for frame. That's a whole lot of teeth cleanings.
  • 2 0
 @pistol2ne: Man you just blew my budget.
  • 2 0
 it's not that expensive if you're not dealing in Monopoly money! j/k
  • 1 4
 @conoat: maybe America wouldn’t be such a cold dark place if you guys learned to appreciate colour just a little bit.
  • 10 1
 2020: the year everyone thought they needed a mullet bike
  • 1 0
 Big year for geometry updates for sure.
77-78° seat angle(proper); 475-485 reach(L avg); chainstays + per size; links/chips adj geo; 63-65 ha; many playing catch up...
  • 3 0
 Win on Sunday, sell on Monday? Lots of EWS and DH victories on the mullet.
  • 4 1
 @Adamrideshisbike: DH world cup overall and world champs 2019, and now world champs 2020. Can't say mullet bikes don't work
  • 3 0
 No it wasn't. It was 2004. Big Hit for life yo.
  • 7 0
 Still don't get why they went with carbon and didn't stick with what they are known for, which is cnc. Man that bike could look soo bloody good...
  • 10 0
 They are trying to grow beyond what they have been known for. They are expanding their capabilities to have a broader range of products and creating more local manufacturing jobs. Projects like this high-end mountain bike and the really advanced track bike for the UK Olympic team build experience and build a reputation for high-end, British-made carbon fiber
  • 7 0
 Read up on the bike a bit. For them, making an alloy front end would require hydroforming and welding, something they don't do at all. But machining carbon moulds was easy because that's what they do, CNC. So carbon made more sense for the front end. And the rear is all CNC. No hydro or welding.
  • 2 0
 @cascadiac: good point! I even watched the video on the track bike. Guess the Actofive CNC bike used up to much space in my bike head. Love your work though hope!
  • 22 15
 So 130 to 148 "offers no gain in terms of performance", but changing from 148 to 157 is absolutely critical.. got it.
  • 12 2
 130 with their special hub and axle
  • 10 2
 Reading comprehension is your friend.
  • 10 5
 Every new standard is absolutely critical!!

Remember when we were all riding 100x20mm front hubs? Good thing we switched from that weak standard!!!

Also specialized (the pioneer company that everyone loves) was still using 135mm rear hubs not too long ago.

The industry switches things up so that your old stuff becomes obsolete and you HAVE TO continue to buy new stuff.
  • 3 5
 @TheOriginalTwoTone: JDUBKC's point is still valid, they are saying their 130 was just as good as 148 when everyone else has been telling us for years that wider is better.

Makes you wonder what would have happened if they would have come up with this before boost...?
  • 4 0
 You’re missing a very important part of the equation: 17mm x 130mm rear axle is the same as 12mm x 148mm. The width helps IF the axle diameters are equal...

Hope has made a great bike, that will never be mistaken anything else other than a Hope bike.
  • 2 0
 @stiingya: but they aren’t saying that? 130x17 is as stiff as 148x12. They aren’t the same axle size, so directly comparing the widths is nonsense.

It’s pretty easy to understand why increasing the diameter of the axle by 40% means you can run a narrower hub width and still achieve the same stiffness.
  • 14 0
 People need to read the text. Their 130x17 had the same FLANGE width as 148x12. This means that the bracing angle was the same because the distance from the axle end cap to the spoke flange was smaller. This is where the wheel stiffness comes from since there is way more flex at the rim than the axle. The only reason they ran the 17 mm axle is because they could do it without spacers because of the bearing ID.
  • 6 0
 @stiingya: Both u and JDUBKC apparently did not read the article. Here it is, try reading it, it offers many benefits without any negatives other than being proprietary. “The idea here was to reduce the width of the rear hub to 130mm for better clearance through Yorkshire gritstone while KEEPING THE HUB FLANGES SITTING AT A SIMILAR WIDTH APART TO A BOOST HUB. SPACE WAS SAVED BETWEEN THE FRAME AND DISC, AND DISC AND SPOKE FLANGES, THE SPOKE ANGLE WAS ALSO SYMMETRICAL WHICH IS TOUTED AS THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION FOR RELIABLE WHEEL BUILDING. The hub axle was 17mm instead of 12mm, which is the size of Hope hub inner bearing races, the races sat directly on the axle, instead of on spacers on the axle.”
  • 5 4
 @SeanC1: It's not a vast conspiracy. Bicycles have been evolving for the better for decades and we as riders benefit. I bet 90% of riders would prefer to ride a bike with a 12x148 rear end vs a 135 QR. And the other 10% only wouldn't want to because "i CaNt UsE mY oLd WhEeLs"
  • 7 0
 @Twenty6ers4life: Wait...people actually read the shit before going right on to commenting???!!!?!?!?!?
That's insane.
  • 7 0
 @SeanC1: 20mm hubs were always 110. they changed the flange and rotor position
  • 3 0
 @stiingya: No it's not, he completely missed the point as pointed out by several poster above me.
  • 1 4
 @SeanC1: do you also believe that Trump is a racist, Pizzagate is real and that the government has secret alien technology??

yer tinfoil hat might be a little too tight, bud.
  • 2 1
 @Trouterspace: I was talking about 135mm x 12mm thru axles not QR. specialized had them on Demo DH bikes not too long ago, Scott had them on Ransom and Voltage FR.
  • 4 2
 @conoat: I like how you inserted a fact amongst the conspiracy theories. Trump IS a racist.
  • 3 3
 @Trouterspace: soooooooo close! the fact was the alien tech....alien tech. thanks for playing though!
  • 2 0
 @Twenty6ers4life: It's not my fault, there are no pictures... how the hell should the reader be expected to be responsible for reading EVERYTHING just so they actually understand what the article is saying... I mean. Come on.




OK, yea I totally glanced at the article and went down to the comments... Smile
  • 7 0
 £4.2k for a frame?
Ok its made in house. But Pace RC295 and Bird Aeither 9C carbon frames are sub £2k with a shock.
  • 3 1
 Glad to hear they've moved away from proprietary tech on these bikes, I'd be a little concerned about spares coverage moving forward. Hope's previously legendary spares support isn't so great anymore it seems... myself and several riding friends find ourselves in the unfortunate situation of having bought into Hope's cassette, which they have discontinued after 4 years. They aren't offering spares coverage (I've two that just need the aluminium cogs replacing), or any subsidy for replacement freehub bodies (Hope's cassette used a propriety freehub). Pretty shoddy all in frankly - not like the cassettes were cheap. I'd expected better from Hope!
  • 1 0
 I’d like it if Hope did a fully alloy frame, maybe incorporating some of the bonding techniques they use on the rear end? It would be quite a story if the material came from the recycled 7075 metal from out of their own factory.
  • 4 1
 Stunning looking bikes, though.
  • 2 2
 At least Hope makes their own hubs which are of good quality... As for the rest of the industry - let's stick with 148... Even Hope saw that answer.
  • 2 1
 Hopefully 148 will become the new 135 QR
  • 2 1
 Why bother to go pro when you can just buy green ano parts? Goes great with your "custom painted" Red Bull helmet.
  • 1 0
 @cascadecomponents please make a mullet rocker for all the other bikes out there. #futurestate
  • 1 0
 Hope renowned for the CNC of metal, why did they not being out an alu frame instead.
  • 1 0
 best fanboy bike ever. even i don't like hope. but bike look nice
  • 1 4
 I'm not sure I want bike components designed around the convenience of a rider on a multi-day bike vacation as the first priority.
  • 3 4
 Ugly? Checked!
Outdated? Checked!
Overpriced? Checked!
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