Lezyne GPS Computers - Taipei Show 2015

Mar 17, 2015
by Paul Aston  
Taipei


Following a two year development project, Lezyne has entered into the GPS market. Three units were presented to the media at yesterday's launch in Taipei: the Mini, Power and Super.

Lezyne GPS - Taipei 2015
  The Mini, Power and Super GPS units are new from Lezyne

Kyle Casteel, Lezyne's worldwide product manager, says, "It was a two year project that involved twelve designers. In fact, we had to take on new staff to fulfill the project, but you will see it was not only developing the GPS units themselves, but also the website and applications that will be involved and the communication with other devices. It was a long endeavor, and a huge learning curve. We developed this product from scratch, including all the internal programming, all the GPS units, the interaction, and from the website to the apps it is all done in-house. We're pretty excited about it, and it's a whole new category. We came from developing pumps and mini-tools, then later branching out in to LEDs was a huge market for us, which opened the door to GPS computers."

Lezyne GPS - Taiwan 2015
  The Mini is the smallest unit, while the Power and Super models are the same size but have varying levels of functionality.


Main features include compatibility for all iOS and Android units, as well as all major measuring devices and power meters via Bluetooth Smart and ANT+. The units can also display notifications of incoming calls, texts, and e-mails incoming on your phone. It's also Strava and Training Peaks compatible. Transfer via flash drive or wireless through Lezyne Ally phone application, and all units are Micro USB rechargeable with up to a 22 hour battery life, with storage of up to 400 hours of ride data. The X-Lock mounting system is similar to another well known GPS system that many people will be familiar with. Pop the unit in at a 45 degree angle, then twist and it will lock into place securely for any kind of terrain.

Lezyne GPS - Taipei 2015
  All of the GPS units are compatible with iOS and Android devices.


There will be three models available, with the most basic Mini unit shipping first towards the end of March. The Mini is the smallest LED screen GPS unit on the market with a 20.9mm x 24.4mm. The larger Power and flagship unit the Super models share the same casing, with differing levels of function, storage and battery life. They will ship in the months following the Mini. Pricing for the three units will range between $140 and $200 USD.

Lezyne GPS - Taiwan 2015

Lezyne have also created the GPS Root website to upload and analyze all of your data, which is a simple calendar view that enables easy tracking of all recent activity. Expect a full report in the near future about the complete GPS package.

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42 Comments
  • 25 0
 It would be awesome if pinkbike could get their hands on all available bike related gps units for a head to head comparison. It's hard to get good data on which of these units work best at grabbing signals.
  • 8 0
 Yes sir! And they are pricy. Don't want to make a bad investment.
  • 19 0
 Dcrainmaker has that covered. He's not Mtb, but no other website compares when it come to testing these devices.
  • 3 4
 Yes he has great reviews, but I want to know the bottom line. Who has the most accurate GPS.
  • 2 1
 Garmin Edge 500 have been working flawlessly for years. Never had any issues. Sometimes when I don't use for too long it just takes a little bit to get satellite signal, but once it gets it just works.
  • 10 4
 Pipe dreams. GPS on a bike computer is NOT for accurate measurement of time & distance, it's for seeing a breadcrumb of where you've been when you get home overlaid on Google maps.
If you're using it for Strava, what your unit actually measures on the trail winds up getting "rounded off" to the nominal distance & altitude figures Strava calculates on the basis of USGS topo maps.
If you pay attention to what a Garmin unit displays on the trail, *best case* scenario most places in North America is accuracy to the nearest 15ft. If what you're trying to do is accurately track how far & fast you've gone, having a speed & cadence sensor on you bike and a manual entry in your head unit of your exact wheel circumference in mm is far, far more accurate than any GPS unit can or will ever be.
If you're using it for actual, realtime trail navigation, you're also in for a disappointment: your map reading skills are far more important than which GPS you are using. I've used over a dozen GPS units while riding, and if you are in any sort of reasonably dense trail network and trying to follow a predefined "course," most of the time the unit will alert you well after you've passed a fork, and god help you if you there are more than two branches at a given fork.
  • 1 1
 I just so happened to run a Strava track on an iPhone today alongside my speed-&-distance-sensor equipped Garmin 500. The Strava track underreported distance by 2% and altimetry by 15%. That's a good day at the office for this kind of device. I've seen distance variances of 10% or more between different GPS-only devices on group rides, however.
The point is, if accurate distance measurements matter to you, do not rely on GPS tracking alone, get a distance sensor.
  • 6 3
 Suspension System debate of late 2000s and early 2010s spawned PB engineers, but since 650B Wheelsize debate we have PB physicists here, experts on energy transfer over an obstacle, friction, acceleration, fluid dynamics - can someone comment on the issue of time and location measurements of those devices taking into account quantum physics, theory of relativity, unified theory of everything, as well as physological phenomenon of relative experience of timem called psycholgocial time bending? When you have a good ride (that is one full of KOMs) time passes quickly, state of flow is a glimpse of an eye, while ride that sucks (due to bad shim stack or inability to own PIKE) lasts way too long? Then this paradox that I remember flow, I don't remember bad rides. In terms of physics, right now I am a split: an electron by the computer, a wave on trails. I am so confused, can someone help me providing scientific references to quality research?
  • 1 1
 @WAKIdesigns lol :-) nice one
  • 2 0
 Not sure about others, but the Garmin Edge 810 and the edge 500 allows you to enter your wheel circumference for a more accurate result, it also uses a speed and cadence sensor. I find bike computers really great for road, but not so great for mtb. I like to bring it just to track my general distance and speeds, but I wouldn't rely on any GPS for accurately navigating trail systems.
  • 1 1
 The wheel circumference has nothing to do with the accuracy of the GPS tracking. It's used in connection with the cadence features. For 99% of us on Pinkbike, I don't think having the most accurate GPS is all that important. It just gives you a pretty good idea of your rides, keeps track of some general data and gives you something to brag about - all for a relatively low price. Tracking speed/distance with wheel circumference may be more accurate, but the amount of data and analysis that is possible with GPS far outweighs that, even if it is not as accurate, in my opinion.
  • 1 0
 @smike. It doesn't sound like you've ever used a Garmin. Wheel circumference has nothing to do with cadence (that's about your feet). It is used to calculate actual distance & speed, as opposed to the GPS's satellite-signal-contingent best guess.
I don't know where you get this idea that you have to chose between GPS data and a wheel sensor. Garmin GPS devices (or even most smartphones) can be paired with a speed & distance sensor: GPS data points continue to be recorded, but only serve as a visual "breadcrumb" since actual speed & distance are being recorded in realtime via the wheel sensor.
As for analysis, aside from the pretty breadcrumb painted onto your map, what aspect of your GPS data is being "analyzed?" True altimetry, heart rate & power data is collected by a completely different set of sensors, and likewise have nothing to do with GPS satellites.
  • 1 0
 @WAKI: repression is a beautiful thing. Do not hit record, just stay with the flow & let that dirty water go under the bridge.
  • 1 0
 @Veloscente - I disagree, you can't get away with most of the dirt, some will always stick to you and if you go with the flow you will sooner or later end up on one of the river banks. Some of them are covered in some real crap which is then thrown by inhabitants to the other side inside of being cleaned up from the inside... You can flow ith the river and come upon a 29" stone - you can jump on it, or curse it, which may throw you on wheelsize shore. But you can also jump on it and then jump into water again into current taking you away from wheelsize shore. I recently jumped from wheelsize shore a vibrant yet slow rolling place with sticky contact patch making it hard to leave.

Dirt sticks to repressed organs, the more you take care of them, the less stuff they catch so we should polish our bums not turds Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Garmin - hands down for cycling, but I agree with Veloscente's view on the inaccuracy of GPS for time/speed/distance records, and your deluding yourself if you think your Strava times are being consistently recorded. Too many variables. But, overall, if you are looking for general data, the Garmin cycling computers are top of their game.
  • 18 0
 Hopefully it's more accurate than the pressure gauge in their floor pumps.
  • 7 0
 zing!
  • 4 0
 Shots Fired
  • 1 0
 Is the pressure gauge bad in Lezyne floor pumps? had one for a couple months now and it seems accurate
  • 18 1
 I'm a real man and want to get lost
  • 9 0
 Well, they dont give you a map. They just track where you've ridden. You're safe.
  • 3 0
 Their most expensive unit is $200? That's inexpensive compared to the garmin units.

Definately interested. My garmin 200 works, and mostly works well but i very much like the idea of smartphone integration and i am getting to the point where I'd like a heart rate monitor.
  • 3 0
 All I'm about to say is from a workshop point of view. Except for hand pumps tell me what Lezyne products are good for?

*Their floor pump require new heads constantly and the head has to be flipped depending of the type of valve you're about to use
*Their so called workshop tools are among the biggest expensive crap I've ever had to work with. The shock pump and the chain whip are so s***
  • 2 0
 Their road lights are really good, when compared to other midrange manufacturers like Cateye. That's my only real experience of their products so it makes sense to me that they'd enter the cycle computer market
  • 2 0
 cool hopefully these are more accurate then my garmin edge 200 which doesnt record data fast enough and loses around 1.5 mile for every 10 i ride on twisty tracks versus others.....shame lovely well built unit but not accurate enough so yeh i might just get one of these instead.
  • 1 0
 Next time make sure to get a GPS that can record at 1 sec intervals.
  • 2 1
 If you want accuracy, simply get a speed & cadence sensor from Garmin. Measure your wheel circumference with a metric measuring tape, and you'll have accuracy down the mm.
  • 5 0
 I want one with a shell Made by Hope. Because aesthetics.
  • 1 0
 If the company, had to create a WHOLE NEW DIVISION for this product. Do Not Bother. It's a Make Money project. With no serious need for REAL competition to Garmin or Magellan. And those who live in the REAL bush can attest to the Fact that Handhelds, do not work worth a crap in the density forest, kind of setting. Battey power GPS is a CrapTech, trend.
  • 1 0
 @Utahbikemike, they're talking about the twist lock mechanism. It's a 45 deg turn instead of Garmin's 90 deg turn.

This will work much better when the unit is bar mounted and close to the stem.
  • 1 2
 Hope this is better than the Garmin Edge 500 I ended up getting a refund on. What a piece of crap. Highly inaccurate GPS and problems connecting to several computers I tried it on. I'll wait for a review using this one on proper MTB trails before I consider buying.
  • 2 0
 The Edge 500 works fine. What about warranty?
  • 1 0
 I'm sure that Leyzene can offer something in terms of build quality and the pricing looks good. I had heard, from a salesman in a running shop, that Garmin
  • 1 0
 Sorry that didn't make sense, pressed submit early. I had heard that Garmin and TomTom could offer superior GPS accuracy to anyone else because they had their own satellites. Not sure if there's any truth in that.
  • 2 1
 Also, is that 45 degree incorrect? Garmins work at 90 degrees and that'd be swell if it was the same
  • 1 0
 As long as it locks into place properly...
  • 1 0
 Quad Lock is 45 degree
  • 1 0
 The mini size looks (small) good, would also be good if it'll work when stored in a camelbak!
  • 1 0
 I thought this was going to suck but it actually looks kind of cool. Phone notifications on the unit sounds nice.
  • 1 0
 I hope it will be compatible with Endomondo #hint
  • 1 1
 Just ride your bike and leave all the stat analysis to the roadies.







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