Santa Cruz Carbon Fiber Nomad-c

Apr 1, 2010
by Karl Burkat  
Straight from Santa Cruz to get your morning going is some exciting info on their brand new carbon fiber Nomad-c. Thats right, a 160 mm travel carbon framed Nomad has finally been unleashed! Inside you'll find loads of pictures and information that answers any questions you may have.

Read on...It seems like barely a year and a half ago we totally revamped our beloved gnarl-hound with updated suspension, geometry and a host of details that saw an entirely new Nomad emerging from where the old Nomad had been - lighter, sleeker, snappier and at the same time tougher. Time flies. It was just a year and a half ago that eight unlucky souls got mangled in the Hellride while claiming first saddle time aboard the new beast. And while the now tried and true aluminum Nomad is still a vital part of our lineup, we decided to splice some carbon fiber into it's DNA and see what happens.


Carbon Fiber Frame
The new Nomad-c marks our fourth carbon fiber bike, and is the culmination of what has been a very enlightening process for us, pun intended. In this case, the move to a carbon fiber chassis has chopped a whopping 1.25 pounds off the weight of the aluminum Nomad, while at the same time increasing strength and stiffness by large margins. The existing aluminum Nomad isn't exactly a porker in terms of weight or a wilting violet with regard to strength, so being able to reduce weight by that much and at the same time increase strength and stiffness, without skimping on any features, is about as much of a win-win scenario as we could hope for. It's light. We are seeing frames weighing in at 6.1 pounds with a RockShox Monarch 3.3 shock.


(Bear in mind, this is a tad heavier than the 5.9 pounds that is floating around out there on an early-print pdf of the marketing tri-fold for the Nomad that somebody leaked onto the interwebs before we intended anything to go public. That's what happens when the wrong info gets out before all the proof reading is done. And before anyone calls foul about using a light shock like a Monarch for a hard hitting bike like the Nomad, add a third of a pound for a Fox DHX air, or just over a pound for a DHX RC4 coil. Then go compare...)


There are three key aspects to our carbon fiber process that differentiate it from many others and at the same time allow us to achieve the strength (and stiffness) to weight characteristics that we are so in love with. They are:

One piece lay-up and curing
By laying up and curing the entire front triangle as a single piece, instead of assembling or bonding pieces together during the process, less material can be used to achieve the same end. Suspension pivots, disc mounts and the ISCG05 tabs are all molded into the frame in this process. Additionally, we overbuilt things in critical areas. The underside of the downtube features five layers of UD fiber, two of aramid fiber, and one of 3k weave, in order to thrive in sharp and pointy environments. The chainstays also benefit from extra layers of material. These all serve as added insurance in rocky terrain.

Continuing fibers around tube junctions
One piece lay-up and molding allows the use of continuous fibers throughout the frame, meaning the structure can more widely distribute loads and absorb impact energy.

Net shape lay-up and fiber compaction
Our proprietary manufacturing process allows us to precisely control both the outside and inside frame shape while compacting the laminate layers, which in turn results in superior stiffness and strength while eliminating excess material.

We don't have any fancy acronyms for this, but it is unique - nobody else is making carbon fiber mountain bikes this way at this time. And, while we don't have the selling power of a carefully focus-grouped nickname behind the process, the results are pretty enough that we are proud to show off what the insides of our frames look like. You'd be surprised what you might find inside some of the other frames out there...


VPP Suspension
The suspension on the Nomad-c is the same as found on the aluminum Nomad, featuring our latest generation Virtual Pivot Point design with 160mm of travel. VPP is defined by a pair of counter-rotating links that offer a falling- to rising- shock rate, and instant center migration traits that minimize chain growth and maintain lively pedaling with a designed-in degree of anti-squat. The shock rate allows for plush, compliant suspension behavior in the early part of travel, letting the shock react quickly to trail garbage and smaller impacts. Then, as the shock rate flips a to rising rate later in the travel, it offers a nice progression to resist bottom out near the end of the stroke. The end result is a suspension that performs exceptionally well over a very diverse range of terrain AND at the same time pedals with an efficiency throughout that outshines many bikes with less travel.

An important aspect of our VPP suspension is the hardware. The lower link is aluminum and has a pair of grease ports built in to ease maintenance, while the upper link is molded carbon fiber. Pivot axles are 15mm diameter aluminum pieces that thread into the frame on one side, and have nifty locking collet heads on the other - this allows them to tighten down and correctly preload the angular contact pivot bearings (another not-so-common piece of hardware) to keep everything moving smoothly and at the same time wiggle-free. By threading into one side of the frame and then locking into the other, the pivot hardware plays an important part in ensuring that all these carefully designed, stiff, flex hating pieces of bike continue to behave in a stiff and flex-hating fashion. They also are designed to allow for easy removal for servicing when the time comes - no need to remove the cranks or disassemble the bike around the pivot hardware.



Geometry for a medium Nomad-c

Head angle67
Seat Angle71.5
EFF Top Tube22.75"
Chainstay17.4"
Bottom Bracket14"
Wheelbase44.1"
Actual Frame Size (effective seat tube length)17"
Standover28.8"



Attention to Detail, and stuff...
Alongside the carbon fiber makeover, the VPP suspension, and the trickest pivot hardware in the world, we added an impact absorbent protection strip underneath the downtube and along the drive side chainstay and seatstay. There's a metal plate where the chainsuck gremlins usually strike. You'll find cable stops for dropper seatposts integrated into the frame. An ISCG05 chainguide mount is molded into the bottom bracket area during lay-up, as are the disc brake tabs and dropouts. There's a 1.5" headtube up front, since we figured this bike would probably be getting treated with a bit more abuse than most taper-steerer forks would be intended to see. You can have it any color you want, so long as you like white with black decals or a matte carbon color with gold pinstripey decals.


The Nomad-c will also be available for delivery starting mid-June, in all the usual build options per our website (but we won't have a page up for this specific model for a few more weeks. Hang in there, we're working on some crunchy new website goodness!), with prices starting at $2499 US MSRP (read that again, US MSRP) for a frame and Monarch 3.3 shock.


136 Comments

  • + 19
 Wow...Well done Santa Cruz! Another absolutely beautiful bike!
  • + 17
 the carbon V10 will be next Razz
  • + 12
 i didnt no they were doing a carbon v10. nice tup
  • + 6
 sick bike, looks fast!
  • + 20
 dickturd-jnr94, they aren't. you are confused...
  • + 5
 ' You can have it any color you want, so long as you like white with black decals or a matte carbon color with gold pinstripey decals' - Smooth Razz
  • + 7
 So, is this another April's fool?
  • + 3
 no you can build one up on competitive cyclist
  • + 3
 Doubt that.I bet it's real.
  • + 1
 Eek can't wait for new V10 tup
  • + 4
 a guy just got one built at my local shop, weighs 22 pounds and is worth over $10,000
  • - 1
 OMG! So beautiful!!! Carbon V-10 next? I hope!!!
  • + 1
 wow 22 lbs
  • + 1
 ya, i guess the guy has money in the bank lol
  • + 2
 ya alot of money!!!
  • + 2
 I don't believe it.
  • + 1
 i can try to get pics if you want?
  • + 1
 of new v10 ??? ..... go on tup
  • + 1
 For anyone who thinks this is fake, why would it be after they produced the Blur Carbon??? Rolleyes
  • + 0
 because it is april fools...
  • + 1
 you can buy one...it's not fake
  • + 1
 and why would they go through all the trouble of designing and manufacturing a carbon nomad frame then saying hahaha were just joking.
  • + 1
 Caiokv, just because it's april fools days, does not eliminate all seriousness. Rolleyes
  • + 6
 :O Beautiful bike. Even with the first part of the article, this better not be the world's cruelest April Fool's joke.
  • + 3
 Noo,this is real Wink
  • + 1
 Slick, sexy and santa cruz. Seriously they got it all covered.
  • + 2
 No other company controls the inside along with the outside when making carbon frames? They must never have heard of or seen the inside of a Giant carbon frame...cause they have been doing it like that for years.

Sick bike though!
  • + 4
 This is a good recovery from the tard of a bike they produced in the Driver-8, ...
Ok Ok.... Insert a slagging on my comments here >>>>
I am ready for it...
  • + 1
 Actually you're right.. That Driver 8 was kinda crappy.
  • + 1
 while i was at UBI in october joe graney brought one complete and the spliced frame from inerbike. these bikes are so nice. the front and rear trianglers are one piece unlike most carbon bikes that just use glue and fiber wraps to join toptub to downtube etc. oh and when i asked joe about a carbon v-10 he said no with words but yes with his expression, its gonna happen boys start saving!
  • + 1
 Oh Santa Cruz... It's such an amazing bike! Jaw on the floor. My old Nomad feels so old now. Such a great and rare marriage of form function and construction. it's just the price. I cant complain on my salary, but I would have to get divorced so I can buy one. My wife woul kill me if i would buy it for that price.
  • + 1
 It's a sweet looking bike, BUT I've never had much luck with carbon bikes... and I would be incredibly skeptical about a carbon AM/DH bike holding up. Rocks and carbon don't really get along with each other so well, not to mention rocks usually void warranties, keep in mind that rocks from a gravel road can (will and have) jump up and put a hole in your downtube.
  • + 1
 I dont think so, i have been using my 2010 S works as my downhill bike and all i did is cover the downtube with plastic,no problems no holes and here in So cal. we ride about 3 times a week,but the s works has a aluminum rear end so,is more capable to absorb vibrations than a full carbon rear end.
  • + 1
 Carbon is the way of the future. The technology race has slowed down since we first discovered suspension and every year the DH bikes had another inch added to them but this carbon stuff is equally exciting.
  • + 2
 comptetiton for the Mojo and the Enduro. pretty sweet bike. carbon is growing on me. next thing you knmow , i'll be riding in lycra.
  • + 4
 no direct mount fd? no 142x12 rear end? common sc!
  • + 2
 Specialized comes out with a carbon enduro, and boom... long travel AM is redefined.
  • + 1
 Why does no one see it! Cannondale had a carbon 160 mil bike in 2008! Special-ed pretty much follows suit whenever someone else innovates. They are not innovaters.
  • + 1
 Rode one today at a demo in santa cruz (and met Peaty and Bryceland!!!) and holy %$^# it was so nice, accelerated faster than my hardtail, felt like it had some nitrous!
  • + 1
 Does it make it easier to get the front end in the air?? Carbon bikes or light alu bikes with shorter c stays seem to climb like goats but I'm curious about the front end being a little too spirited? Not that a lighter front end is such a bad thing. Is Peaty starting to look like an old man now??? lol


A.
  • + 1
 Haha, Peaty had a bunch of energy and was wheelieing around on his new whip, was looking ready for the race season! It was actually the only Nomad I've ridden, so I can't compare to the alu frame. It felt 10,000 times better than my cannondale prophet. The chainstay was actually the only thing I would have changed. It wheelied really easily sitting down but manualing was really tough actually. I just checked the difference between the Nomad and Spesh Enduro - the nomad CS is 17.4 in and the Enduro 16.5 - now I really want to demo a 2010 enduro.
  • + 1
 I took a test spin on a Nomad last summer and it felt like a tank. Zero flex. I also rented a Blur LT when in Fruita the day of a flight (my trail bike was boxed and ready for transport). The CS length on the LT is 17" vs the 17.4" on the Nomad so other than the obvious HA/HT differences in geo, I assumed the 'light front end feeling' might be similar. I found the LT to be well balanced, easy to put the nose in the air/manual but a little 'loose' on the front end while climbing. This might also be because I didn't take any time to set it up with the right stem, seat, etc. I was close to buying a Nomad till I tried the LT. Either way, another kid on the way so no new bikes anytime too soon...
  • + 1
 wow!what a bike! i was saving my $ for tuner rfx but its not gonna be built according to DT, well i know where my money is going now.
  • + 2
 in the may issue of mountain bike action,they say theres a new v10..can anyone find pics?
  • + 1
 there is ment to be more info about 2 new santa cruz bikes on the 14th of april! could be more news on that then Smile
  • + 1
 Now... the only question is how can I get away with dropping another $6000-7000 on a new bike when I dont 'really' need one!
  • + 1
 again, I want! haha, I need to get some high paying job so I can afford all these pretty pieces of bike!
  • + 1
 I like the GT Fury better but then it is a DH frame. I shouldn't have prejudice to Nomad-c, still a nice frame.
  • + 1
 This, or mojo HD?
tough choice. head angle on the mojo is better, but im a VPP fanboy.
maybe this with angled reducer cups?
  • + 1
 my fault, this has the same headangle, a longer stroke shock, will take a coil shock and has ISCG mounts. SOLD
  • + 1
 Such a kick ass bike, too bad its priced to the moon(or any other types of bikes I want for that matter).
  • + 1
 Oh my lord that is the most beautiful bike of it's kind I have seen to date.
  • + 3
 Soooo sick!
  • + 0
 I hate carbon bikes... the carbon is sh*t, but the Santa Cruz is very good. I,dont know...I think this bike will be great...Big Grin Razz
  • + 1
 Yeah I was bummed, all the LTs were taken so I didn't get a chance to demo one. Congratulations!
  • + 1
 can you get the nomad's rear dropout to be 12 x 135? i know the front is 20mm ... thanks!
  • + 1
 And the weight weenies of the world rejoice.

I'd like to simply say, "Meh".
  • + 2
 Another amazing bike by Santa Cruz, Well done !
  • + 2
 c du jolie matos !
  • + 1
 Hahah april fools. too good too be true. jk.
  • + 1
 that is niceee!
Penggggggggggggggg! (*)
  • + 1
 its gonna be a hard choice for some with ibis's mojoHD and this bad boy.
  • + 1
 awsome bike, but is that price for the whole bike or just frame?
  • + 1
 It says right in the article, $2499 USD for a frame with a rockshox monarch shock. Carbon isn't cheap dude, gotta pay to play.
  • + 1
 Drool Carbon has really grown on me! Nice work Santa Cruz tup
  • + 1
 that actually looks f*cking sick!

good work Santa Cruz Smile
  • + 1
 April Fools? It had better not be!
  • + 2
 Seriously
  • + 1
 17.4 chainstays?,NO THANKS!, Ill take the 16.5 stays on my S works Enduro.
  • + 0
 chainstay length? give a sh*t..
  • - 1
 Yes chainstay lenght,oh, but your bikes dont have rear suspension,sorry mate, sucks not having money to buy a full susser. You are that bloke at the back on the hardtail.
  • + 3
 Chainstay length matters equally as much on a full suspension as it does on a hardtail. Why are you making fun of someones income based on the fact that they do not have a full suspension bike. Grow up.
  • + 0
 Hey, im not the one who started this,Read before you make coments,Oh by the way, i was talking to Duncan rifle at fontana over the weekend and he told me that the new glory has: VERY LONG CHAINSTAYS! Oh, i forgot you ride one. Grow up! (a few inches) LOL.
  • + 1
 Now you insult my height which is ridiculous since I'm 6'2, which has nothing to do with this and tell me a random fact about the bike I ordered that a pro told you. Great arguement. I did read what you said. The guy said who cares about chainstay length, cause he probably doesn't, like most other riders out there who ride for fun and will not notice the minute difference between two chainstays that are less than an inch different. You insulted him for "being too poor to afford a full suspension" and that it must not matter because he rides a hardtail, where it matters equally as much as a full suspension.

Your hilarious.
  • + 1
 Enrico650 i only said that about the chainstays cos you said 'no thanks' to an amazing bike. i know it makes a difference, your just being a knob about it.
  • + 1
 yeah plus special-ed sucks. Ride a real bike.
  • + 1
 This comment coming from thet guy on the cannondale, it just keeps getting better, please tell us how many canoncrap motos where sold this year? , Now be carefull on this one,dont make a number, i happen to know how many, but im going to give you a chance to come clean.
You now and i know the moto is not selling very well, so tell us at least why?
  • + 1
 Don't you mean crackondale?
  • + 1
 Lets see: cannondale, cann on dale, can on dale`s, crack on dale`s, No,wait,can of tuna?
  • + 1
 Oh ho ho, good one enrrrico! The only reason specialized sells so much is that they spend all their money on advertising rather than on r&d. Lets be ridiculous and compare the quality of a bike because of how many people buy it. I have worked extensively with specialized at shops and I spend by far more time wrenching on them than all other bikes combined. All Style and flash, but no substance. I have yet to see some constructive criticism about Cannondale from you broseph. Oh and that can of tuna comment was hilarious!
  • + 1
 Tell you what, specialized s works carbon frames are made from 10 to 11mm unilateral carbon material, in case that you dont understand this term , the carbon is not weaved like other brands, this procces its the most expensive and takes too much time,its the lightest and yields a very strong bond between the carbon and the aluminum conectors, no other brand uses this system,its too costly for them to give you the best. only specialized frames are constructed in this form. But you dont know this, I work for specialized and i have never heard of you,perhaps you can give me a name of someone that knows you at morgan hill.
  • + 1
 This would probably be the frame to my dream bike.
  • + 1
 dude sweeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!! thats a v10 though willh1995
  • + 1
 £2499 Frameset, arse banditry.
  • + 1
 I just ordered mine tup
  • + 1
 Finally, uncle santa use VPP for his leg 555
  • + 0
 it might not be, doesn't look like it in pink bike, but there is NOTHING about it on the SC website so...
  • + 2
 Did you read the article?
  • + 1
 yeah and they finally posted somethin on th SC site (stating that it was not a prank)
  • + 2
 Bargain!
  • + 1
 that is dead smart hop they do a carbon v10
  • + 1
 cmon guys beef up that rear end a bit more
  • + 1
 i'd really like to win the lottery
  • + 1
 I need one fast! I better start working harder right now...
  • + 1
 MINT
  • + 1
 Must buy....
  • - 1
 With a carbon fibre frame like that, i swear the rear shock would spring you airbourne...
  • + 5
 Thank goodness for the rebound knob
  • + 1
 A carbon V10 is coming
  • + 0
 ordered one at work already! Smile
  • + 1
 lucky son of a gun! I'm jealous
  • + 1
 Holy Sh*t. Nicee.
  • + 0
 WWWWAAAAAANNNNNTTTTT IIIIIITTTTTT NNNNNOOOOWWWW :0
  • + 1
 WIN!
  • + 0
 Do I get this or the Intense Uzzi VP?!?!
  • + 1
 this !
  • + 4
 NO^
  • + 4
 ^ what he said--cannondales are overpriced, under achieving piles of crap... i'd prefera £10 argos bike lol
  • + 2
 Since when is a Cracknfail even close to the same level as Santa Cruz??? I want some of what you're smoking!!
  • - 2
 lol... cannondale don't know how to make light bikes--there american so it has to be big, bad and heavy (no offence to normal americans intended--just the bikes, cars, trucks, and maccy d lovers associated with it)
  • + 3
 ^^^yeah but check their lifetime warantee
  • + 0
 you want sweet ligth bike try the ibis mojo HD and the other thing Cdale moto sick bike rides great and you will never replace the bearing rear end ,not like the santa cruz
  • + 0
 You should really start wearing a helmet pato... the head injuries are clearly starting to affect your judgment. Moto cant touch the Nomad.
  • + 0
 With these kind of responses, it's obvious that none of you have ever ridden a moto. I was a skeptic going into this too, but I have been so happy on this bike. I have ridden everything else in this category of bike and the moto is simply better in every way. Oh and my Moto weighs 30 lbs with a heavy raceface atlas crank(which I love). That's not heavy by any means on a 160 mil bike.
  • + 1
 april fools?.. lol
  • + 1
 nope, it isnt
  • + 0
 all mountain plastic sickness!
  • + 1
 Want! Drool
  • + 1
 youre quoted on the santa cruz blog congrats
  • + 1
 What?
  • + 1
 damn! nice
  • + 1
 Thats stunning!
  • - 2
 no its just a fake...like this elusive, non-existent ''game'' there on about...
  • + 0
 Weight?
  • + 2
 read the article
  • - 1
 HAWTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, i need new pants.
  • - 1
 :o !!!!!!
ohhh shiiit!
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