VP Components Harrier Pedal - Review

Jun 3, 2014 at 0:09
by Mike Kazimer  
VP Components Harrier pedal review

VP Components Harrier Pedal

VP Components manufacturers nearly every type of pedal imaginable, everything from hipster-friendly metal clip and leather strap options to plastic BMX pedals. For 2014 they decided to add a new design to their line of mountain bike pedals, and with the help of team rider Andrew Taylor came up with the Harrier, a flat pedal with dimensions that make its aluminum platform one of the widest on the market. To get the most benefit out of the wide body design, VP recommends the pedal for riders that wear a size 9 US or above. Weight: 360 grams (actual). Available in black, red, or silver, the Harrier retails for $120 USD.

Details
• Forged aluminum body, chromoly spindle
• Dimension: 120 x 110 x 12mm
• DU bushing and igus bearing
• 10 steel pins on each side
• Colors: black, red, silver
• Weight: 360g (actual)
• Price: $120 USD
Construction

As the name implies, VP Component's Harrier pedal has dimensions of aircraft carrier-like proportions, with a massive forged aluminum platform that measures 120mm wide and 110mm long. The Harrier's body spins on a chromoly axle with the help of a DU bushing and an IGUS bearing, and a lock nut sits on two washers to secure the body to the axle. The use of bushings instead of cartridge bearings allowed VP to keep the pedal's height down to only 12mm, and also let them avoid having the large inboard bulge on the platform that would have been required to accommodate a bearing. Ten steel pins provide traction on each side of the pedal, and the outermost six pins thread from the underside of the body for easy replacement as well as extra thread engagement for added strength.


VP Components Harrier pedal review

Riders with Sasquatch-sized feet will appreciate the Harrier's larger-than-average platform.


On the Trail

From the very first pedal stroke, the Harrier's wide platform is immediately noticeable – the pedals are barely narrower than a than a pair of US size 11 shoes, providing plenty of room to find a comfortable pedalling position. However, despite this plus-sized platform, traction wasn't as flypaper grippy as I'd expected, even when wearing a pair of sticky rubber shoes. The platform's width and lack of concavity are likely the cause here – the outer pins rested on the very outer edge of my foot, a spot that doesn't have as much direct pressure applied to it when riding as the ball of the foot does. There's a gap between those outer pins and the two small center pins, and it's that gap that caused some of the lack of traction. This likely won't be a problem for riders with extra-wide feet, as the pins will end up further underfoot. The pins themselves are also a little thicker than most, which doesn't let them bite in as tenaciously as a narrower pin would. They did prove to be quite strong, though, and shrugged off a number of direct rock strikes without breaking or bending. The pedal body also survived the test period in decent condition, with only a few cosmetic scratches to show after weeks of being dragged over roots and rocks.


VP Components Harrier pedal review

(left) The Harrier's steel pins have 5mm of thread engagement to help keep them from breaking.(right) The pedal internals are simple - a chromoly axle, two washers and a lockring, with bushings found inside the pedal body.



Issues

In theory, bushings are self lubricating and shouldn't need any grease to spin freely and quietly, but after a handful of rides the pedals developed a rhythmic creaking noise. It took only few minutes to remove the axle and apply a layer of grease to the dry-as-a-bone spindle, which kept the pedals quiet for the remainder of the test period. Other than that, a small amount of vertical play also developed after a few weeks, but it was only noticeable when initially stepping onto the pedals, and couldn't be felt on the trail. According to VP, this small bit of play is to be expected, and it is inherent with the use of bushings instead of roller bearings. The play is caused by the bushings being compressed, and VP says it shouldn't worsen until the bushings actually become worn, which typically takes a year or more.


Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesThe flat pedal market is brimming with options of every size, shape and color. Rainbow pins, titanium axles, magnesium bodies - if you want it, someone probably makes it. VP's Harrier adds another option, one that will likely appeal to riders searching for the widest platform out there. With one of the simplest internal bearing configurations possible, they are easily maintained and less affected by grit and grime, although riders who desire absolutely no play in their pedals may end up looking elsewhere. The Harriers do fall somewhere in the middle of the road when it comes to overall grip, but riders with basketball-player sized feet might find them to be exactly what they're looking for. - Mike Kazimer


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91 Comments
  • 78 5
 Flats4life To scared to clip in haha
  • 46 4
 Sam Hill at Fort Bill showed us how it's done.
  • 21 48
flag Jimmy0 FL (Jun 10, 2014 at 21:39) (Below Threshold)
 O did he win?
  • 24 46
flag danonow FL (Jun 10, 2014 at 21:41) (Below Threshold)
 na clipless is faster
  • 10 1
 For some... I'm always going back and forth, there's a lot of riders on clips that should be on flats for the extra confidence required in learning.
  • 10 1
 I'm always going back and forth, too. I like aspects of both, and it depends on the type of riding and where I'm riding. My biggest complaint of clipless is clipping back in after an unruly corner, despite using 647 DX's and Five Ten shoes.

What are the best pedals/shoes to quickly clip back into? 647s are the best I've tried so far... after using Mallets for a long time.
  • 17 1
 Diety Decoys are the best I've found. Rode for ten years clipless... Went flat, never going back. Has nothing to do with learning. Simpler, less hassle, safer. If you race, maybe clipless is faster. If yer not, who cares?
  • 3 1
 Shimano m647s work great with am45s, I find my Fiveten Minnaars fussy in comparison.
  • 4 1
 I use the shimano 530's and they are very easy to clip back into; with shimano's you can adjust how hard it is to clip in/out with an allen key. I think people make a mistake buy buying clip-ins with the best platform because usually a wider platform makes it a little harder to clip into. And if you really must unclip for a section or corner, or accidentally unclip, don't spend time trying to clip back in. just start pedalling, you're 99.9% likely to clip back in.
There's a reason the vast majority of WC downhillers use clip-in pedals, if you plan on racing much you should probably learn how to clip in. you can shave a second out of the start gate alone
  • 4 3
 Times are really easy to get back into, dunno about Crankbros.
  • 6 2
 I have flats, but the pins I put in it stick out like 10mm. The grip is amazing, I can pedal right around with one foot. gotta watch shins though..
  • 2 1
 I think clip-ins are funny looking and expensive... wouldn't mind trying them out but can see myself not liking them so flats all the way.
  • 2 0
 I don't knnow GiraffeInPurple, my Canfield Brother's Crampons were far more expensive than my Shimano SPD pedals. Shoes for clipless can be pretty spendy, but I think my Specialized shoes were cheaper than more Five Tens MSRP for now.
  • 3 2
 Yes clips are more dangerous but you can ride more fast and jump bether; if you can finish without crash youre the champion in clips.
  • 1 0
 They are cheaper. Shimano pedals are like 40$ on pricepoint and mallets or flats are always like 80-120
  • 3 0
 You can't argue one is cheaper than the other, there's plenty of cheap clips and flats, there's also plenty of expensive clips and flats.
  • 3 0
 Carloso-- you cannot jump better. Any half brained instructor will tell you that you are jumping improperly if that is how you jump. Please see exhibit A and tell me how clipless pedals help you jump better--http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/5312264/
  • 1 1
 Reignonme. Thanks for your answer y talk with my trainer and dont like when i say he have half brain ;( /// Now i cant back at BMX races por one month. But i really enjoy say hes half brained. LOL
  • 1 0
 I didn't understand your post. I wasn't insulting your trainer--or you. It's an expression.
  • 1 0
 Dont worry my friend; im just kidding you. I really use boud; flats and clips; in my DH bike (intense 951) i preffer clips; and in my dirt bike (speciaized p2) i preffer flats i have a demolitions flats with 5/10 shoes and work very good; and in my trail bike (stumpjumper) i prefer clips. Hugs from ecuador y colombia and keep ridding bro.
  • 17 2
 So, not much grip, squeaking after only a few rides, play in the bushings - which will also be worn and need replacing in a year... all this for US$120! Think I'll pass...
  • 2 0
 The grip could depend...but the rest is what I took away from this review as well. Maybe that's what a guy wants...dunno
  • 4 0
 Ultraflat pedals with bushings are consumables. Pedals with decent bearings can be rebuilt successfully. Will go back to bearings soon.
  • 1 0
 I should think the thinness of the pedal being the problem, I have straightlines with a similar bushing instead of bearing an they still running sweet after 3years...... Not that I've everhad too but,they can be stripped an rebuilt in 5mins
  • 3 0
 Deity flats for 40 bucks, i have had them for a year now and they look like they could last another 3.
  • 2 1
 @wakaba... all pedals need maintenance as you mention. We designed these to be rebuilt and the kits cost $25.

Our idea is to have something that is durable and will last a very long time. If you commute to work on harriers you will need to rebuild yearly, otherwise you should get more time between services.
  • 1 0
 Not where I ride.

Cold, grimy, wet.

Clay and wet.

Sand, dust, salt.

Bushings pain in the ass. Crunchy.

Commuting - anything goes - 20$ small chinese flat pedals worry free for couple years now.
  • 1 0
 @wakaba I have Straitline pedals which use bushings, they are over 3 years old. Replaced the bushings last year even though there was plenty life left in the old ones.Pedals and axles are still perfect, if they lasted so long in the weather we have here I'd say don't knock bushings until you try them.
  • 1 0
 I run these on 5tens and have all the grip I could even ask for. Havent had a single problem with them after a full season, love these pedals
  • 7 0
 Thanks for the comments. If you know you don't like a bearing bulge and you have ever felt like your feet fold over the sides or rear quarter of the pedals then you should try the Harrier. The feel is very different because of the size, they really have a planted feel and give you a lot of security. We also designed it to be very strong, forged body, forged pins, forged axles... So if you've bent or broken other pedals in the past, I don't think you'd have an issue here. And if youre into clipless, try the VX Adventure Race, especially with flat soles gravity shoes. And they have a lifetime warranty with roller and double sealed bearings.
  • 1 0
 what about on the bushings? if i buy a pedal (and expensive one at that), i dont want any play, at all.
  • 10 0
 @jumpman2334 good question.

we could have damped out play by using orings, old atom labs do this, but it really increases rolling friction and we wanted this to be a pedal that can pedal for big 5 hour epics as well as shuttle laps. An extra spring (oring) will take care of it, and we left space for one... Anybody who wants one can email and ask for it.

Here is some technical background nobody cares about:

All pedals using only solid bearings require a certain level of functional play. For a rolling metal bearing play=death, but for solid bearings this isnt the case. The advantage here is that we can eliminate any inboard bulge, keep the pedal really light, and really thin without under sizing any parts so we can retain strength. Compared to others we have a pedal that is supremely strong, and internals that are very durable and easy to maintain and will not fail catastrophically like tiny ball bearings can and will. The trade off, if there is one, is that there is a tiny bit of play which is not noticeable in use.

Look at reviews of other thin/light pedals using all solid bearings... They all can and will have some play, but they still work great over time and their users love them. Someone mentioned the straitline amp here already. We have the advantage of coming in lighter and cheaper than most of them and still offering something different with features some riders want (platform size, durability, thin, light)

Thanks.
  • 2 0
 thank you for the detailed reply! i will keep you guys in mind for the next set of flats i buy. im a plastic kind of guy, and IIRC you make a composite pedal, i will have to look into them again! thx!
  • 1 0
 I wonder what the VX clipless cost? I mean, I know what Shimanos cost and they are bulletproof: 520's are US$24 and 540's are US$43 online.
  • 1 0
 Interestingly, I just read another review of these pedals on a different website and they were more favored there.
  • 3 0
 VP, thanks for making these pedals. I raced for many years (DH) clipped in, but now I only ride flats (mostly XC/AM) because it's more fun. These pedals should address all the problems I've encountered with other pedals. Those being: Tiny ball bearings falling apart, too thick, not wide enough, too expensive, and poor pin design. These pedals look perfect. I particularly like the pin design. I have discovered that pins with exposed threads grip slightly better, but they tear the flesh off your legs really bad. Smooth pins will still cut, but they don't tear you open like the threaded ones do. Threaded pins also break easier because they have a small minor diameter. Also, for those concerned about the bushings, from an engineering standpoint (and personal experience) they are more appropriate for pedals than ball bearings. So long as the seals keep dirt out, they will be stronger and last longer. Cheers.
  • 3 0
 Thanks! And you're welcome...
  • 6 1
 Clipless isn't 'faster', its about preference and what you feel more comfortable in
  • 5 3
 Every time I see a flat pedal its like looking back on the old days. I really cant understand why anyone wouldnt want to clip in especially given the standard of bikes these days and the standard of the tracks we ride. Ok I use my flats for pump tracks occasionally but for all other discplines i always clip in it is the way forward. I rode flats for all my riding life until I started using clips a few years ago and wonder why I wasted so much time on flats....and I was a clip hater!!
  • 2 0
 @Matt76 which bike standard is that?... I rode BMX all my life without clips, started to ride my MTB without clips also, after I changed to clips and lasted many years. For Enduro and DH I ride flats with a pair of 5.10 shoes (those combo has the same amount of grip needed like clips). So I has been in all type of pedal-shoes, and no one fit best for all (in my type)...I keep mi clip pedals for some days and my flats for others. We just adapt to what fit best to each ;-)
  • 3 0
 No reason to hate either type Matt76. Ride what makes you happy.

We should acknowledge though that peer pressure causes many people to ride clipped in when they would actually be better served by platforms. They do it to fit in and because some moderately talented/knowledgeable ride buddies told them that only beginners aren't clipped in. Meanwhile, it is the truly experienced and talented riders that recognize the appeal of both types of pedals.
  • 2 0
 Because it's a preference, nothing wrong with people using flats. Obviously lots of riders are based upon the constant flow of new flats coming to the market.
  • 2 0
 I've gone the opposite way. I rode clipless for over ten years and this year with the purchase of a new bike, I bought a pair of flats. I will never go back to clipless. I love being able to position my feet in slightly different ways as it gives a much different feel as I carve the trails up. I am having a hard time learning how to actually bunny hop a bike now and thus jumping can get pretty hairy right now, but I will figure it out and basically this is just a bad habit that clipless allowed me to get away with for so long. Everything else I feel so anchored in and it is really nice knowing I can bail that much quicker. I have broken a wrist due to my clipless pedals. I also thought I would really miss out on powering my upstroke, but I come to find that it burns my legs up quicker. I ride uphill a lot faster with flats. The only real downside I find with flats is how wide the pedals are. I have a bike with a low BB and I do have to think about strikes whereas I basically never did have to worry about that with my Eggbeaters and a higher BB.
  • 2 0
 @ IronB, felt the same way after switching to flats from 10 yrs of clips. Bunny hopping will come along. I'm no pro now, but I can get both wheels off the ground without issue. Just keep at 'er.
  • 1 1
 Lol light the touch paper! #handbags
  • 2 0
 Climbing quicker? That's pretty cool.
I'm a frustrated flat rider trying to break too many bad habits created by decades of clipless use.
I love riding on flats but I'm so shit at it! It's frustrating to have to relearn to jump, bunny hop and the rest. But I keep telling myself that it's only that way because I was useing clips as a crutch.
Anyone else want to read a 'how to' article for clipless pedal tragics?
  • 1 0
 I am surprised I climb quicker, but I think giving my muscles a rest on the upstroke is the only reason why. I guess I was burning up my muscles when I pushed and pulled on pedals on just about every uphill. Bunny hopping correctly off a jump sometimes works for me, then sometimes it does not and I have almost crashed and burned really hard only to hang onto the bike by a thread before finally gaining control. I feel like I should spend a day in a riding clinic because I'm really terrible at jumping right now.
  • 2 0
 I hear ya. After being badgered by my friend to try riding a dj bike on easy tables at the local dj park, I finally did it. It helped immensely! After the first day I was clearing the small table line without issue. This really helped jumping technique on flats for me.

Perhaps borrowing a pals dj bike for an afternoon would help you guys as well? And it's fun...I'm now recognizing a dj bike is a necessary bike in the quiver, even though I never plan on hitting anything huge. I'm on the hunt for an affordable one now, and I plan on using it at the local indoor park during the rainy season to help keep my skills up.
  • 3 1
 Dont be scared to clip. Also dont clip in and rocket down the mountain if you have never done it before. Put the clip pedals on and ride in a yard or do some XC until clipping in/out is a subconcious action. No matter how many times I have crashed while clipped in I always seperate from my bike as soon as things go wrong. I'm not actively choosing to do this, my brain and body just know what to do.
  • 2 1
 Yeah it's a lot more reflexive then people think. Only times I've not been able to jump out of the pedals were when I changed cleats and didn't loosen the pedals enough. Otherwise, with the tension set properly I'm usually able to jump off the bike pretty much at will.
  • 4 1
 On flats you can just put your foot down and not crash.
  • 1 0
 You can't jump up and off the pedals when clipped in. There are all kinds of different bailing techniques that are not possible when clipped in. Sure, you can separate. But being limited to merely detaching cuts down on the options and loses a fraction of a second. I personally love being able to shove the bike away with my feet at the last second. This comes in handy when going over the bars on steep chutes or needing to jump off of a high log ride. For many riders, they don't push it enough to matter or don't mind the additional danger. That's perfectly fine. But we shouldn't pretend that you can bail as well when clipped in.
  • 1 1
 Sure you can. You rotate your heels out and jump at the same time (easier if you set your pedals loose). I've bailed out by hopping over the bars many times. I look like f*ckin spider man when I do it, it's rad. IMO you should never be running the pedals anywhere close to as tight as a roadie would, but if you leave a little play in there you can bail out any way you want, as long as you keep your ankles loose. It becomes habit pretty quickly. Definitely depends on your riding style; if you're planning to spend tons of time in the air SPDs don't really make sense IMO, but if your're doing tech stuff close to the ground or pedaling long distances they're amazing. For everyday trail/AM riding I've never known anyone to make the switch back to flats.
  • 1 0
 I made the switch back after over a decade running clipless. I am pretty damn good with clipless, but I still broke a wrist because sometimes shit happens so fast and by then it is too late. It most likely would not have happened on flats. I still like clipless, but flats are just so much fun since it is new to me and one less thing to worry about. I was surprised to find I can ride just as fast and of course I am able to attempt more technical obstacles being able to instantly bail without question. I just suck at jumping since I never properly bunny hopped with clipless.
  • 3 0
 Stupid question and one which has probably been asked before but why are clip pedals referred to as 'clipless'. Surely clipless pedals are ones without clips, ie flats? Sorry for being a smart ass.
  • 4 0
 NO, clips refer to the old cage and strap pedal called clip pedals, not to cleats or attachment mechanisms even though the noise they make very well could be described as "clip".
  • 4 1
 Big pedals for people with big feet is a good idea...
Unfortunately the LG1+ already covers this market and is a BRILLIANT pedal in every single way.
  • 2 0
 because concave. probably the best large pedal on the market.
  • 4 2
 being clipped in scares the f*ck out of me... really it may be faster but i really dont want to be stuck to my bike when tumbling down a hill.

on another note the pedals look nice and really thin Smile
  • 1 0
 The internals look really similar to the Canfield Brothers Crampon Ultimate Pedals with DU bushings that developed play after three months. Re-greasing (per their video) holds off the play for about two rides. Completely over pedals with DU bushings!!!
  • 2 0
 I've been running these since they came out and have been loving them.. It's a sweet pedal, the big platform is great and they can take some shit! Digging it VP!!
  • 1 0
 Pedals look nice! As far as bushings go, I've been riding my Straitline DeFactos for a while without a single issue. They don't spin freely, but I don't notice it while pedaling.
  • 1 0
 I'm interested in these but have to wonder if the pins could be replaced by something more grippy of perhaps the threaded variety?
  • 3 0
 i'll stick with my Hope's - like my 5 10's do!
  • 2 0
 I've been loving these pedals!
  • 3 1
 I well stick to my dietys since I can buy three pairs for that price
  • 1 0
 Sounds like a good platform. Grip when you need it but not so grippy you can't move your feet around.
  • 1 0
 I have 40 YO and i dont be so fast; but with clips i can ride like a teenager. I use for 4X and DH; street i preffer flats.
  • 1 0
 So these would be good for me if I wear a size 12?
  • 1 0
 4 sam dale
  • 2 4
 Hey VP, why don't you encorporate the titanium body like you have with the blade pedals, but for the harrier? It would be killer light and would look awesome...
  • 1 0
 and they will stay in warehouse for sometimes.
  • 2 0
 We are planning a ti axle version with post machining and a lot of light bits. So pretty close to what you are asking.
  • 2 1
 A mag body would be lighter and roughly the same cost as alum.
  • 5 0
 @BryceBorlick true, but we don't do magnesium casting because of the safety risk in the factory. We run a really safe and clean facility, and are really well known for it with all the bike brands.

Magnesium can combust and for us is not worth the risk to the entire factory to do it. we typically don't use outside vendors if we have the capacity to create in house. It s not a problem for a specialty magnesium casting Vendor to do, but we can't offer the same precision and quality at the end of the day of we use outside vendors all the time. So we probably won't ever do anything magnesium for those two reasons.

Furthermore, I would not be confident in the strength of a cast magnesium part over a forged aluminum part. Magnesium is already brittle, and casting doesn't produce a part as strong as forging.
  • 5 6
 Looks just like the straightline amp
  • 3 7
flag bighitryda (Jun 10, 2014 at 22:58) (Below Threshold)
 Word! And I bent the sh!t out of my straighlines after 2 months. So hopefully these are stronger. Sorry I'll stick to my mallets and 5 10's. Clipped is the only way to ride dh, and if you are scared to clip, think on this, how many times do you really take your feet off the pedal at speed?
  • 3 0
 Tell that to Sam hill lol, clipped in is not the only way to ride dh
  • 1 0
 List 1 benefit to riding flats for dh Enduro27?
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