SRAM Tech: Eagle Installation Video

 Commenting to remind you that like 1x11, in two years the 1x12 complete drive train will be worth around $400.00 because bike industry.

 By then SRAM will have released LION.. the 13 speed drivetrain that makes eagle look like an ugly duckling

 @WAKIdesigns can you confirm?

 I'll just wait until pigeon comes out

 @UtahBikeMike: I looked at the prise... In my case it would be colibri...

 I don't care what SRAM does anymore, I am waiting for Shimano to release Satan with 666% cassette. In cooperation with Trek they will introduce new metric chain, and as a consequence, create the first ever "Brown hole" in the Milky Way galaxy. Brown hole is a theoretical object in market-astronomy. Company reaches critical mass of own bullshit and it's gravity combined with stickiness becomes so big that the escape velocity of bullshit vines exceeds the speed of light. Bullshit radiation can no longer escape product design and marketing departments, they collapse under their own bollocks rapturing the very fabric of sense and time. We do not yet know what lies on the other side of gravity well created by such event. All we know for sure, based on our calculations is that if you get too close to a Brown Hole, your wallet gets spaghettified.

 @Yike: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ??!!

 @WAKIdesigns: Gold ! You made my day

 I just talked to Neil de Grasse Tyson and Alex Filipenko. Scientists are now sure that Trek Shimano merger will be even more destructive than Trek Sram merger which resulted in F-type Shitnova that spread Boost crap all over MTB community. The Trek Shimano merger will surely form a supper massive sht-hole (aka Brown Hole) and results will be destructive. We know that, because we can observe other similar objects in the universe: like Brown Hole in Donald Trumps mouth, object not emitting any positive light, instead attracting white trash and hate. Brown Holes are not as destructive as Black holes in centers of galaxies therefore they are more likely to radiate transformed parts of the swollen matter. If you fall into the Brown Hole, you loose all your money, and come out in a different size.

 @WAKIdesigns: Why are we drawn to the allure of the brown hole? We know we shouldn’t and most of us know we’ll get a good telling off if we go anywhere near it, yet we still eye it with a sense of wonder and excitement at the prospect of something new and different to the ride we're used to.

 But if you have anything less than 1x16 its outdated though

 @uberwax: The solution to the gravity of Brown Hole is Dark Matter. Buy Antidote Dark Matter downhill bike. You will not desire anything else after that (I have foreseen this twist of discussion, I led you right into it, from the very mention of astrophysics, I am a genius, I AM THE NIGHT!!! mohahahahahaha)

 Funny though, everyone who now uses 1x11 or 1x12 were happily using 2x10 just a couple of years ago.

 @dietersanchez: Funny though, everyone who now uses suspension were happily using rigid bikes a couple years before that. Funny though, everyone who now uses disc brakes were happily using rim brakes a couple years before that....

 @scott-townes: yea Scott, you can say same thing about boost and dropper stem. Oh dropper stem - bollocks - really? what about dropper posts, are people saying that regular posts were fine? How come regular stem is fine then? At what point are we going into details and stopping making blatant analogies? If your cassette is larger than 203 mm disc, when chain drops down while back pedalling, then maybe it's nature's way of telling you that maybe you went full retard... I have 11sp XTR drivetrain and currently in the process of going back to 10sp Sram X9. I will keep the 11-42 range though because I need 36t in the front. It's all about PROGRESSION of the sport. We resize parts because we love what we are doing. Never stop innovating, never stop pushing the boundaries. Dropper stem!

 @WAKIdesigns: Sitting here laughing my arse off. Thank you sir.

 @acetasting1992: Im waiting for the 14 speed 'Taradactle" drivetrain.

 @WAKIdesigns: more like somebody with too much time on their hands

 @doe222 - Time on my hands... ATM my hands hurt from a savage power wank. On my way from work I saw a billboard with Natalie Portman. I got triggered, came home, found my favorite spot behind the boiler in a cellar. My hand reached 0.97 of speed of light and completed 26194 to power 10 cycles. That means that my right hand is 25 years younger than my left hand. It basically came back to the point in time when I did it for the first time. About the same time when I rode the mountain bike for the first time. A bicycle that costed less than Sram Eagle 12sp chain.

 @dietersanchez: No! I've been using 1x9, 1x10 and 1x11 since around 2002-2003. On the other hand I still have more singlespeed bikes then with gears...

 Here in Brazil maybe in 10 years. Sram NX Eagle.

 @dietersanchez: Happily except for the PITA of a front derailleur.

 removed

 German tools only ---- goodNtight

 As a bike shop tech.... 1000's of cables are replaced... no time to torque that.

 @PedalShopLLC: my go to torque spec

 @cptstoney: RFT?

 I do all the time. My wrists are calibrated to crack at 4 nm of twisting force.

 @TwoWheelMike: LOL... same here

 Exactly my thoughts...but it is official vid Torque wrench is handy for crank arms, seat and stem clamps and pivots, but to use it for levers and small bolts is kind of overkill...until something snaps, of course

 I use a torque wrench (more often a dial torque wrench because most critical bolts are less than 100 inch pounds) for vitually every bolt. The derailler cable is not one of them.

 crank it until the cable is flat.

 May be for bolt pinching the derailler cable - no... But for cranks, stem bolts, rear spindle (not quick release in my case) - always.

 This is literally the last thing on the bike that needs a torque wrench. So unnecessary it's funny.

 epic fail on finishing the gear cable end - NEVER use side cutters to "crimp" the cable end cap!

One of the most basic things a mechanic here in the UK learns during the leading industry standard Cytech technician certification (which has now been licensed to Canada and is being introduced in other countries)


Under the old BS 6102 (british standard for bicycle safety) cable end caps actually had a "pulling resistance" torque of 40nm.

Using a proper tool like a Park cable cutter with the crimping function, you finish by squarely crimping the cable end cap


Using side cutters, as in this SRAM video, you don't crimp; you end up cutting through the cable end cap, not secure and soon the end cap is in pieces or falling off, cable frays and you are re-cabling. Worse case scenario the customer gets stabbed with a sharp piece of cable end, which is not fun, especially under the finger nails!


One of my favourite checks (as a workshop manager) for new mechanics is walking around bikes pulling at cable end caps and seeing which come off in your hand. Try this in large stores (especially chain retailers) and it tells you a lot about the quality / professionalism of the work coming out of that workshop.

 @hampsteadbandit: back when I was a total bike nerd, I would use a soldering gun to secure the cable ends of the extra cables on my personal bikes..... before that, I would just dip the cable ends about an inch into the tube of SuperGlue (same result)... both methods worked like a champ.

 haha - MAYBE. I will afford one when the prices come down, and it will be nice to not go into my LBS because they do shit work and charge a leg, arm, and nuts to do anything.

 I have the eagle set drivetrain. It feels exactly like every other drivetrain,but with one more gear. Scareviews.com

 I have Eagle on all my bikes but the installation was tricky. The LBS wouldn't charge enough for the install. I ended up getting the local Mercedes dealer do it for me. It was the only way I could get ride of the enormous pile of $ that I hadn't had the time to throw on the fire.

 @AdeMiller: Should have gotten the local airplane mechanic to take a look

 They're not working on their own bikes anyway

 My X01 cassette is 3 seasons old and going strong, but I am religious about replacing chains often. I probably get 3-4 months out of a chain. But the second that cassette is kaput, it's GX for me.

 @DMal: Yep.....change the chains out boys and girls. Much cheaper than a cassette.

 @DMal: I used to try to do the chain thing when I was a race nerd running xtr. I can never get good shifting even changing the chain once a month. I am probably cursed. I did go GX on my last driveliine change and it is a better alternative for many of us. The big cog is made of steel and lasts longer for us that have stupid steep climbs. The other reason I am looking at going XT in the future is my hope rear hub and the xd driver. The bearings in the freehub are tiny and can't deal with the high loads of the steep techy climbs. The bearing races crack after only about a month, leaving you with a walk out. This happens to everyone I know who uses hope here in Victoria BC. The HG driver uses bigger bearings, and doesn't seem to suffer the same fate.. This isn't an issue for 99% of the riders out there though, as the only other place I have sen with similar climbs is Pemberton.

 @omclive: Interesting about the Hope freehub body and bearings failing. I had to replace mine about a year ago - though it has been working fine since. I agree, though. With GX/NX and XT/SLX, the choice is a no-brainer unless you're seriously counting grams. You have to admit though, the high-end cassettes with 10 of 11 cogs milled from a single piece of steel are pretty impressive bits of gear.

 @omclive: cassette? Have you seen the price for the chain? The chain alone costs more than XT cassette... INZANE

 Canadian Tire is the go to in Squamish.

 I went from a ghetto 1X to an overpriced XO1 1X groupo about 3 years ago. My advice is to do the ghetto 1X as you are describing as an upgrade, or go XT 1X if you buy a new bike. BTW Going to a 1X system is a massive upgrade over a 2X! So much more instinctual to use and WAY quieter.

 @omclive: I like to sing and yell when I ride. Not so quiet

 So you live in a very flat area i guess,some of us actually need the range.

 Nino was in the granny gear on his eagle drivetrain at worldse but I guess u fitter

 @multialxndr: Oh yea, and he was on the xx1 in last two years still winning the sht out of everybody... is there any chance he may have upped the chainring size? Is there any chance (considering Eagle doesn't weigh much more than xx1) that he rides what he is given to ride, considering the paycheck he gets from SRAM? yes yes some may need the 10-50 range. I bet there are people who feel that they need 9-60. Some need a SUV to commute to work everyday, or a Margarita maker in the kitchen. Some need two kitchens in their 300m2 houses. Who can deny them the right to spend the money however they want and then proclaim they really reaaally need that?

 @WAKIdesigns: Actually Waki some people NEED the range not just want.I don't have a fancy house or an expensive SUV but i run a 11-50T shark because i need it.

 @rideonjon: I know. I've been recently biking with a guy who could make use from 9-60. 180 tall, 165 cranks spinning like a hurricane. I personally live well with 36t front, 11-42 rear. I actually lived rather well with 34 front and 36t rear before I got a new bike that had those stupid 650B wheels...

 Really GOD invented Pinions.