Day Four Randoms - Interbike 2013

Sep 19, 2013 at 17:18
by Mike Kazimer  
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The Dakine booth was full of bright new colors for 2014, including a Hawaiian print chest pocket on the button up Wrench jersey ($60 USD). The Traverse glove ($30) has minimal padding on the palm, a hook and loop wrist closure, and like the rest of Dakine's glove line is touch screen compatible. The Oakridge flannel gets a color update along with an antimicrobial treatment for the polyester fabric.

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Fittingly, a number of riders were using early versions of Dakine's Enduro Hip Pack at this year's Oregon Enduro Series. The pack has two waist pockets along with a larger rear compartment with mesh dividers to hold a pump, tube, tools, and any other accessories you might need. Available in green and camo color options, the hip pack retails for $50 USD.

Matt Simmonds Nukeproof Pulse
Matt Simmonds rode this Nukeproof Pulse to a career-best fifth place finish in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa, running Schwalbe Rock Razor tires front and rear for decreased rolling resistance.

Greg Minnaar s Santa Cruz V10c complete with the same flat tire he finished his race run with.

Greg Minnaar's World Champion Santa Cruz V10c was on display as well, complete with the same flat tire he finished his race run with.


BMC bike on display
BMC team rider Stephen Ettinger won the US National Championships aboard this bike, a Fourstroke FS01 29. The bike's geometry is slightly more relaxed than you'd typically see on an elite XC race bike, but that obviously didn't slow Ettinger down. The build kit includes electronically activated Fox CTD suspension, a full Shimano XTR drivetrain, and a patriotic paint scheme.

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Diamondback's Sortie 29 bikes gain additional stiffness for 2014 from the addition of a cross brace between the rear seatstays and by running the main Knucklebox pivot through the bike's downtube. With an XX1 drivetrain and a Crank Brothers build kit the Sortie Black retails for $6500 USD, with other complete Sortie 29 bikes starting at $2700.

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The Sortie 29's seat stay bridge and new pivot mounting system help prevent undue flex as the bike goes through its 120mm of travel.

Need boxing gloves This booth will get you sorted out

There are always a few booths at Interbike that leave us scratching our heads, and this one was no exception, since it was mainly filled with boxing gloves and accessories imported from Pakistan.


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Loaded's latest components were hanging off of this Black Market Roam set up with 27.5" wheels.

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The Pivot Phoenix DH bike is always an eye catcher, especially built up with a Shimano Saint gruppo and a Kashima coated Fox 40. The frame only with a Fox RC4 and an Angleset goes for $3250 USD.

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ENVE had a Turner Czar 29er built up with drool-worthy components at their booth, including black on black carbon wheels, and a sleek carbon stem with titanium hardware. We'd love to see ENVE start offering their stem in a length shorter than 75mm...

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This Phil Wood V10 fat bike sure gets around - it seems to appear at every trade show we cover.

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Hope has launched a fat bike compatible version of their Pro Evo hub available for 170 and 190mm spacing. The Fatsno is available for $288.33 USD for the rear, and $125 for the front.

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If you somehow missed it on the Pinkbike Facebook page, here's another look at the Scurra Hard Enduro bike. A 29" front wheel, 27.5" rear wheel and a unique front linkage system makes for one bizarre looking bike. The bike gets seven inches of travel front and rear, and the designers are currently looking for distributors and funding to bring the bike into production.

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  • 228 2
 "the designers are currently looking for distributors and funding to bring the bike into production."

maybe they should talk to the boxing glove guys... they really seem to have their ducks in a row.
  • 10 49
flag Lilshredman (Sep 19, 2013 at 17:33) (Below Threshold)
 About an hour ago, I saw this on vital mtb...and posted it everywhere! www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/INTERBIKE-Day-1,6391/Scurra-Hard-Enduro-Fork-and-Frame,64012/bturman,109
  • 15 2
 I've heard that that setup actually works pretty damned well.

also, "King 4 Ring"?

Something tells me that Interbike means something very different in Middle Earth...
  • 30 1
 I just dont see that front end/fork?/pivot system? catching on...anywhere....
  • 56 2
 I still want to test ride it
  • 6 0
 the designers need to hook up with Nick Frey at Boo Bicycles and see if Nick has any "interested customers"! Ah, c'mon Meg just straddle this bike with your knees locked
  • 22 3
 Kudos to Scurra for thinking differently and coming up with that idea.
  • 15 4
 Nothing wrong with going outside the box, but at least make it pretty.
  • 6 2
 Rear shocks are not reliable enough to depend entirely on them. I like that I can service my fork in about 15 minutes.
  • 25 3
 Its too bad that most people who ride care more about how it looks, how they look then how it preforms
  • 8 0
 take a look at some of the BMW motorcycles with a sort of similar pivoting front suspension instead of a sliding fork.
  • 14 7
 Count me among those that wouldn't even consider buying that bike based on how it looks! Hideous monstrosity, it would have to make a quantum leap forward in performance to even think about it.
  • 31 0
 @Pitcrew, I think that front suspension would catch on everywhere, all the trees, limbs etc!! :L Razz
  • 7 0
 that bike is everything of today, from yesterday! 650b., 29er, awkward suspension...
  • 7 0
 just so you guys know, the organizers also conduct a Health and Fitness Expo at the same time with Interbike every year, which most likely explains the boxing equipment.
  • 8 1
 Oh look, an Amp Research for the new generation...
  • 7 2
 I would say it is a step backwards because forks have a 'leverage ratio' of 1:1, and forks are always plusher than rear suspension because of this. They've asked 2" of stroke to take care of 7" of travel.

I would also say they have increased the inertia as there is more mass needed to be moved before the wheel can react to bumps.
  • 8 0
 Plus, there are five pivots/joints between the wheel and the stroke of the shock - more chances of things going wrong and places for slop and play.

And, of course, there is the old 'motocross' argument that we love to bring up on Pinkbike. Are motocross bikes running this? No.
Please note that any point made using motocross as an argument is at the discretion of the person making the argument, and any points brought about by other users that point out inconsistencies between MTB and motocross, can be used or ignored as anyone sees fit.
  • 7 0
 Guys google "whyte prst-1" this type of bike has been created before, the whyte was designed by Martin whyte who designed the Marin suspension he wanted a front end to complement the rear .

I bought one of these frame which I still have but don't use, they climbed and cornered better than any other bike I have ridden, and i own a v10c and trc they seamed to squash down in the suspension making the wheelbase increase. But they have the worst brake dive I have ever experienced, if u were going downhill fast and breaked hard it would be so easy to go over the bars, evan on the flats hard breaking the front would dive right down, they didn't really catch on and whyte bikes stopped making them.
  • 9 0
 www.pinkbike.com/photo/1541206

My old bike built up a few years ago
  • 2 0
 @LOSTMAYHEM - fair point, but there are some things, like this monstrosity, that you can tell will be shit just by looking at them.

Being so over complicated and at odds with absolutely every other bike design makes it very unlikely that this represents some great paradigm shift.

Rely on your eyes...
  • 4 0
 In fairness, it still looks better than that Redalp bike...
www.redalp.com/images/2013_fr_normal.jpg
  • 4 0
 Confidence in the front end = 0
  • 6 0
 LSD. Don't give it to bike designers.
  • 5 4
 Discussing this bike in any other terms than a joke is like sending Mythbusters at the Bible to prove something to religious people. How can anyone even start talking flex/ play and handling... it looks weird - it is meant to be weird, someone made it, but no one but a completely messed up geek would buy it - end of story. From Orwell - "some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual would find them attractive"

Just enjoy it
  • 2 0
 getting a wheel set for that bike must be fun
  • 4 1
 It's got so much going on that I think the only thing missing is a dildo.
  • 12 3
 During the course of my life I was fortunate enough to never come upon a situation when I felt a dildo was missing somwhere but...
  • 9 0
 Don't you mean "somewhere butt....." ?
lol
  • 1 0
 Quinn nailed it
  • 2 0
 I WAN TO TRY IT!
  • 2 0
 I'm all for experimentation, but when that experimentation leads to abomination, it should be stopped in it's tracks before it can do any serious damage, not put into production!!!! There are enough stupid contraptions on the market as it is.
  • 2 0
 The reason it made it to market i, it has a face only its mother could love, in this case the mother managed to pull some strings.
  • 1 0
 Ugly.
  • 1 0
 Physically it isn't very nice and i fully agree on that as well. I have not seen this in action, yet i sense that this suspension system might actually be very effective, but I believe in forks much more.. I also don't agree with the idea simply because there is too much mass; too much metal, most likely pulling this bike to the heavy side.

But we also really shouldn't judge that much because non of us have seen the frame in action. I would put it into the 'interesting' category for now..
just my thoughts, don't hate
Cheers Smile
  • 21 1
 Lol, same tire, different shock on Greg's bike. Looks like Fox has some things they'd like to hide...
  • 33 0
 Or they might not have an extra one to spare, since Greg will be using it at Leogang.
  • 30 1
 ...that's a very good point that l did not think of
  • 11 2
 If it snowed more in Leogang, then maybe that Fat-V10 would come handy to Greg aye?
  • 19 0
 $3250 for an alloy frame? That's ridiculous.
  • 4 0
 I'll take a kona park operator for that kinda $
  • 2 10
flag michaelmigliore (Sep 19, 2013 at 18:02) (Below Threshold)
 I can get an aurum, with a dorado full zee setup spank spike wheels, and a fox rc4 shock for that price
  • 2 0
 That setup goes for 5200, but there's another one for 3150, which is still a decent build.
  • 25 0
 the entire mtbing world is way overpriced
  • 7 1
 NOOOOOOOODLES
  • 20 5
 Stop hating on Scurra!! Is no one here a fan of innovation? Or anything out of the ordinary? I swear theres been nothing but hate for the past month/month and a half on everything posted on the front page. Be it wheel size,axle size, doesnt match ones bike, doesnt look cool therefore wont be functional at all, too heavy, too light. Step out of your comfort zone guys! I love looking at new and strange things. It keeps it exciting! Youre hating on your own sport...c'mon now lol
  • 4 0
 Ima scurra that thing! Yikes
  • 2 0
 nifty to see, but rear shocks are a weak link already with their short lifespan and need to be sent off for rebuilds. I am not an ino-hater, but it will never make sense to add unsprung weight and put all the pressure on another rear shock.
  • 2 0
 I dont think anyones hating on the sport. But perhaps if a large majority of people dont like something, maybe theres a reason why.
  • 3 1
 Or maybe there's no reason and it's because something is simply different.... Not exactly a new scenario in history is it??
  • 2 0
 If it was carbon with Ti hardware sculpted well, and looking sharper than the Maccano set above, people may give it a bit more credit.
  • 1 0
 Fair point. However I bet that if it was all of that people would still freak out and hate on it because it's outside the norm...
  • 1 0
 "But perhaps if a large majority of people dont like something, maybe theres a reason why." Yeah, sure.
www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/cauty_economist.jpg
  • 2 0
 There is a distinct difference between innovation (which it isn't really, see White designs, K2, BMW...) and retarded.
  • 16 1
 WTF IS THAT????

You know what I'm referring to.
  • 39 0
 yeah! those coloured seatposts are freaking awful!
  • 6 1
 good one.
  • 3 1
 "bring it to production" WWHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYY!
  • 5 0
 i know! why make extra wide hubs!
  • 2 1
 Yeah. How can you really tell that the Black Market bike has 27.5" Loaded wheels?
  • 25 12
 Anybody else get sick when they see American flags plastered all over crap made in Taiwan?
  • 21 0
 No because a lot of people have been doing it for quite a while now, haha. To be honest I don't think I'd buy a bike that was completely made in the U.S. They've got some crazy good factories over in Taiwan.
  • 17 32
flag dirtybikejapan (Sep 19, 2013 at 18:00) (Below Threshold)
 schofell84 why the racist hate on a bike website? Can't you remember your login to the tea party site?
  • 9 6
 ... says the person bashing conservative Americans... Also, he was talking about the crappy bikes, so I don't see how you got from bad parts to racism.
  • 13 1
 Hes not being racist hes just saying its false advertisement.
  • 9 0
 I don't hear you complaining about the South African flag all over the American bike and wheels.
  • 15 2
 Mmm, interesting. First, schofell84, you should be made very aware, if you are not already, that Taiwan is considered to be the home of probably some of the best, if not arguably the best, bike manufacturing facilities this side of Alpha Centuri. To suggest bike the parts/frames made there are "crap" is, let us hope, uninformed. Were you to suggest it was "crap" knowing the above, one may be led to believe there were other reasons you enlightened us with your opinion. Let's hope not. As scott-townes alluded to, the stuff made there is top notch. I swear by my Novatec hubs, HT pedals, Taiwanese made Cotic frame etc etc etc.
Were you to remove the word "crap", I think your point would avoid any misconstruing.
  • 5 11
flag dirtybikejapan (Sep 19, 2013 at 21:57) (Below Threshold)
 bigwheels29er are the Tea Party and conservative Americans the same group? That was a leap of logic, I don't see how you got from.Tea Party to conservative Americans. Taiwan crap is a slur defined by a country or race so its racist as I see it. The Tea Party is a slur defined only to a group of people who share the same chest out American pride xenophobia that is on display from schofell84.
  • 4 8
flag dirtybikejapan (Sep 19, 2013 at 22:08) (Below Threshold)
 In regards to the bike,
"BMC team rider Stephen Ettinger won the US National Championships aboard this bike,"
A US national championship winning bike - so why didn't he pain a Kyrgyzstan flag on there?
  • 5 1
 dirtybikejapan - I don't know how was his comment racist... only if you try hard to find racism in it. I sense more PC-paranoia here than racism. How do you guys know what he really meant?
  • 2 3
 "Jap Crap" would probably be the slur you were looking for. I absolutely understand decent products can be made in Taiwan and overseas. There is also a TON of horrendous GARBAGE that comes from there, not to mention the pollution or labor conditions. I tend to have some faith and pride in what myself, my neighbors, and fellow citizens can manufacture. I work with my hands for a living and the PRIDE I put into my work is what puts food on the table. I do own foreign made items, its inevitable- I'm not a billionaire. I do spend every cent I can on American made goods because of that faith I have in my fellow countrymen and women that they put as much pride as I do into their work. Another fact of the matter- You get what you pay for. Do you think someone working in the PRC for crappy wages (if not forced labor) are going to put as much pride into their work as someone who gets paid well and wants to keep his good paying job? IT just really chaps my ass to see my flag plastered on STUFF (not crap Wink ) when I know damn well we have the means and skilled labor to produce it here. If you're going to *proudly* fly our flag at least have the decency to try to put your neighbors (who also bear that flag) to work and have faith in what they produce. There is nothing racist about it, there are plenty of Asians who come to the USA to work and they are skilled and welcome. My ancestors may also have stepped off a boat from somewhere once as well. But god DAMN it. Don't fly my flag on stuff made overseas. Its a slap in most Americans face. Have a nice day. Smile
  • 5 0
 Shofel84 - I thought they are putting American flag there because Americans pay them to do it, no?

About skilled labour... I'm all for local production from economical reasons, but quality wise, Asian companies make better bikes than majority of "Western" manufacturers. Through long years of making bikes at gigantic scale, for "Western" designers, they just got real good at it. And don't fly high with education and skills of local "Western" labour because it's all worth shit when you have people who are not as dedicated and disciplined as Asians.
  • 2 0
 Actually, the taxed enough already party are those whom dislike the progressives on both sides.
Ie., bush, rove, McCAin, Graham, christie, pelosi,h. Reid, soros, new deal, obama, obamacare, chicago, croney capitalist, irs, fed, unwarranted war, middle east oil, qe money (fiat currency), career politicians,...think rand paul, ted cruz, mike lee, levin, hayek, t. Sowell, dr. Carson, federalist papers, representative republics...
  • 2 1
 @Waki

"Derpp uhhhh 'merikans are smart n design most of the uhhhh widgets on our bikes but uhhhh deeerrpppppp uhhhhh I doont think they can figger out the uhhhh derrpppp manufacturing uhhhh"

Apparently you think all we do over here is trade stocks and bonds?
  • 2 0
 I think everyone is missing the point here LOOK at the photo of the bike with the American flag and READ the information about the bike, bellow the photo. That particular bike WON the US National Championships. Now I am not a detective but that may have some thing to do with the U.S flag on the bike. Now if your a slow human go ahead and negative prop this comment, then return to your finger painting.
  • 3 0
 schofell Sir, I am afraid I have to disagree with you about the quality of the products from my own personal experience. I have owned a number of frames under a number of head badges, some proudly stating they are made in the US and others I know to have been made in Taiwan. it is only my personal experience, however I have found the quality of workmanship to have been higher on the Taiwanese made frames every time. The frames I have had that were handmade in the US needed significantly more work done to their BBs, head tubes and in one case linkage. I stress again it is just one British man who lives in Japan's experience yet I would now trust a shop in Taiwan backed by a QC department in the country of the designer over a US made frame. Sorry. I do not doubt your pride in your work for one moment by the way, it is a sadly diminishing quality in the manufacturing process.
  • 2 0
 schofell84 - No I don't think so low about Americans, but I assume you have not much worse or better education that we get here in Europe, and to be honest I think one we have here is crap enough to not make enough skilled labor. Technology is simply pushing out the need for it. Yet someone has to operate those machines and weld stuff, so you can be excellent in designing that sht incl those machines, and this is what we are all learning to do, but we forget that reality afterwards isn't just about pressing "print" button, and it will never be. Someone, somewhere has to do the job - It's called knowledge based economy, and it's either a ship to the stars or a better looking Titanic... time will tell.
  • 3 0
 Why don't we argue about something less touchy like wheel size? At least racism won't be involved...
  • 2 7
flag scott-townes FL (Sep 20, 2013 at 9:52) (Below Threshold)
 I'd rather talk about whether the Holocaust actually occurred or not...
  • 2 0
 Scott - I'm into such topics whenever you want, however this particular one would end up 10x faster than whether 9/11 was a plot of US gov or not... How about landing on the moon - true or false?
  • 1 1
 It is ettingers model and he is an American rider! Therefore it has an American flag on it. Both sides of the argument are just as pathetic as the other the American guy for being a typical American biggot and the Japanese guy for responding and giving his comment validity where it otherwise would have been ignored and forgotten. I Mean SERIOUSLY racism on a cycling website go and take ur face for a sh!t
  • 2 0
 Its nationalism not racism you bozo's. At least have a clue what your talking about before chiming in please.

@Iamarider- Touche. It evokes a certain emotion ... I believe its called "pride". It's nice to see those dumb 'merikans can still manufacture bikes/components. Razz
  • 1 0
 Pride is alright... I wish my country had 1% of American national pride...
  • 1 0
 The Stars & Stripes, The Red, White and Blue, Ol' Glory or whatever you want to call the American flag is a pretty cool looking flag, I use it on some things myself. The simple solution is to wear your flag on your riding gear, not the bike.

The thing about Asian factories is that there's investment in new equipment and any fool can load material and press a button so you might get some pretty nice parts. When it comes to stems, bars and seatposts just give me Kalloy and be done with it, a lot of there stuff is rebranded anyway. If you want to see stupid parts how about the old downhill stems that weighed about a pound? Nobody in there right mind is riding a 50lb. bike anymore. No doubt, there's some real garbage out there though, always has been.
  • 1 0
 American flag - cool looking flag? I think you'd change your mind if you would made a poll all over the world, whether someone who is not American would like to wear stuff with US flag. I bet it goes to extents where some (stupid) people consider it almost shameful as swastica (which is fkng logo as well) graphics wise it is too cheesy, too many symbols, complicated composition, I take Canadian or Jamaican flag over it anytime.
  • 1 1
 ^ and those people would be called "retards" comparing the US to Nazi Germany...

also could you guys just PM each other? this is really f*cking stupid to keep popping up since it's about something completely irrelevant to this whole story.
  • 13 1
 So, if I've got this right... Fanny packs are cool now?


"Sweet hip pack dude, you look soooo enduro..."
  • 2 1
 I know right? Why in the world would someone want to wear those, especially in a race situation? The point of a backpack - or anything beside a fanny pack - is to have multiple points of load, taking away that strap around your waist. Kind of why racers wear bib shorts, so there's not a buncha material around your waist.

Hipster dorks wear them around Seattle with portable sound systems though. Whatever.
  • 1 0
 Fanny packs are only cool if they cost $50...wtf?!
  • 7 1
 I might be the only one, but I think that Scurra is really cool. Maybe not in any way useful, but really cool.
  • 3 1
 About the Scurra: First they need to pay there bills for producing some frames at our factory! These guys are a pain in the ass to work with! I still have some frames lying arounds in the workshop unpaid!! The rear suspension is a copy of a Zumbi F22 frame but the shock angle is completely wrong! Beware!
  • 4 0
 The gloves or fot those who fight because of the wheel size , ok look ____o^o____0^0____its faster ?
  • 2 0
 What?
  • 1 0
 fot = for
  • 2 0
 I really want a pair of Shwalbe rock razors, I got a chance to ride them on a giant trance sx demo and it is such a fun tire!
  • 1 0
 That v10 fat bike looks like so much fun. Obviously would be shite on tight, technical stuff but can you imagine bombing down a rough, flowy track? It'd be unstoppable. You'd just bounce straight over rocks and roots.
  • 7 3
 No booth hotties or middle fingers? I r disappoint.
  • 4 0
 I was definitely expecting more middle fingers...
  • 1 0
 Scurra's idea of a rear axle path on the front wheel is interesting. should theoretically be perfect for rooty and rocky trails. Only serious issue I see is severe brake dive. I would be willing to try one out at least.
  • 1 0
 It makes sense for axles to move backwards; out of harms way - but font wheels do this already because the head angle is less than 90deg. It's the rear that needs more engineering to get a rearward path. The only change I see is that it's driving a rear can. This might have some benefits if the linkage resisted brake dive like a USE Sub fork... but it can't do that from those links. It looks heavier, and as others have said, will suffer the leverage ratio of a short stroke air can... I can't fathom what the designer thinks the problem was, and how he solved it.
  • 1 0
 gregs v10 is pure sex, that black market roam... i would do dirty things to it, and that fatbike v10... thats like taking hayden pantierre and throwing her in a fat suit, its something you just dont do
  • 2 0
 Sorry, but i don't know many people who would choose to sacrifice their dignity by buying that Scurra
  • 1 0
 the scurra has a similar front suspension design to BMW adventure motos. its called the telelever.
looks weird but i'd love to test ride it Big Grin
  • 2 0
 Must of took ONE HELL OF A CRASH to make that "Scurra".... Looks like the praying mantis of the bike world....
  • 1 0
 Those boxing gloves would be really good at a skate park. Strap em to the ends of your bars and you can barspin the scooter kids out of the way.
  • 1 0
 Props to LOADED for putting the 650b/27.5 debate to rest. Its clearly printed on 1/3 of the wheel what they want them to be called....
  • 1 0
 Those Scurra boys are going to be really bummed out once they get a look at Weagle's Orion patent. Don't go away mad, just go away.
  • 3 0
 good luck scurra
  • 8 0
 They'll need it.
  • 3 1
 They've got to be joking....really who in their right mind is going to pay for that...never mind ride it in public!
  • 2 1
 I would, if it worked!
  • 4 0
 Looks like a meccano set project that a bit outta hand.
  • 1 0
 *got a bit outta hand.
  • 5 4
 3 things:
I'm surprised diamondback has a $6500 bike
those Loaded rims are ugly as sin
And WTF Scurra
  • 4 1
 the DB is sexy (for a 9er), don't get me wrong. Just surprised that's all.
  • 1 0
 Sexy but with hilarious clearances. That would last about 10 minutes before filling up with mud on my local trails.
  • 1 0
 that dakine fanny pack i mean lumbar pack i mean hip pack is sweet-only in camo though
  • 2 0
 For Sale - My Kidney Reason for Sale - Must buy Turner Czar 29er
  • 1 0
 Someone did their homework to come up with that. Thats definitly not a bike you see everyday.
  • 1 0
 If I'm not mistaken, the BMC Fourstroke has 100mm of travel front and rear, not 120mm. Classic XC race bike...
  • 1 0
 That Scurra Hard Enduro looks like asleep transformes just waiting to rise and shoot people with plazma canon Smile
  • 1 0
 That last bike is a fine example of waste of time and effort!! Don't you have anything better to do?
  • 1 0
 Dr. Suess, commissioned this build based on his book LSD for you and me!
  • 1 0
 the scrura has to many moving parts to many things to break or fall apart
  • 1 0
 Agreed --> good luck scurra Lol and 3250 for ally frame is ridic
  • 1 0
 Loaded components, are they not Ellsworths inhouse brand?
  • 1 0
 Loaded is a separate company from Ellsworth. We once shared an office but now we have our own spot right off of San Diego's most popular trails. Stop by sometime!
  • 1 0
 Cool, will do.
  • 1 0
 Pivot Firebird looks koo. Yazzzooo, wowa, yippee!
  • 1 0
 great design scurra, take a rear shock to replace the suspension fork NOT
  • 1 0
 I wanna see a vid of someone riding really fast on this thing.
  • 1 0
 greg was running with a rear puncture????
  • 1 0
 Wait, is that a Maverick!? Oh no... No it isn't...
  • 1 0
 give me that Black Market !
  • 3 2
 scurra
just why?
  • 1 0
 Really though.
The Pulse and the V-10 - lust... Everything else - meh...
(though I can't figure out why the Pivot's so uninspiring)
  • 1 0
 Not many new designs
  • 1 0
 kill scurra with fire.
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