Dakine Builder Pack - Review

Jul 12, 2017
by Mike Kazimer  
Dakine Builder Pack review


The original version of Dakine's Builder Pack was created over ten years ago with hardworking trail builders in mind, a pack built to stand up to the use and abuse that comes with shaping the natural landscape into a mountain bike playground. The pack has seen multiple revisions over the last decade, all while still retaining the ability to carry the tools and accessories needed for a big day outside.

The most recent version has a 40-liter carrying capacity and is constructed from a rugged 1000d nylon, which makes it feel like a military rucksack, especially compared to the lighter weight (and more fragile) fabrics typically used for hydration packs.
Dakine Builder Pack
• 1000d nylon fabric
• Hydration bladder compatible
• Internal aluminum frame
• Expandable chainsaw carry pocket
• Carrying capacity: 2445 cubic inches (40 Liters)
• Dimension: 22.5 x 13 x 12" (57 x 33 x 30cm)
• Weight: 4.3 lb (1.9 kg)
• Price: $180 USD
• Limited ifetime warranty
www.dakine.com

There are two external zippered pockets that are shaped perfectly to hold fuel bottles, and the chainsaw that consumes that fuel sits in the pouch right behind those pockets. A large zipper extends around the perimeter of the pack; it can be partially unzipped to allow access to either side of the pack, or unzipped all the way to open it up like a clam shell. There's also a quick access sleeve for holding loppers - they'll slide in behind a chainsaw, and everything can be cinched down using the two compression straps on each side of the pack.


Dakine Builder Pack review
Chainsaw fuel bottles can be stored in two outer zippered pockets.
Dakine Builder Pack review
The square bottom panel and the aluminum back panel supports help keep the pack sitting upright when it's not in use.


A retractable pouch is hidden in the very bottom of the pack that's designed to allow up to four hand tools – shovels, rogue hoes, etc... to be carried vertically. There's certainly no shortage of pockets – along with a pouch for a hydration bladder there are two zippered internal size pockets, a fleece line sunglasses pocket at the top of the pack, a zippered pocket on the waist belt, and that's not even all of them - the biggest challenge is remembering where you put everything. If that's not enough, the pack can be set up to carry a five-gallon bucket, one of the least expensive yet most useful tools in a trail builder's arsenal.


Dakine Builder Pack review
A wraparound zipper makes it easy to access the pack's contents.
Dakine Builder Pack review
There's no shortage of pockets and pouches.


Performance

Carrying a chainsaw around through the woods isn't an easy task, but even when it's fully loaded the Builder Pack does an excellent job of remaining balanced. The waist belt is nice and wide, and the shape of the shoulder straps helps prevent any unwanted pressure points or hot spots. The orange loops of webbing on the top and the side of the rear panel are also a welcome touch – they make it easy to grab and lift the pack to move it down the trail. The square base also helps keep it standing up when not in use, rather than collapsing into a puddle of fabric.

The pockets are well thought out and easy to access, and the fuel bottle storage on the outside is especially handy. There's no rain cover, which builders in wet climates may find themselves wishing for, but although the zippers aren't waterproof, the fabric can stand still withstand a fair bit of precipitation before beginning to soak through. A smaller backpacking rain cover would be an inexpensive investment to help keep everything dry during soggy build sessions.

The pack's durability has been excellent so far, without any rips, tears, or blown zippers to be seen. Trail building is hard on equipment – all those sharp tools like to dig in any chance they get – but the Builder Pack has held strong.


Dakine Builder Pack review
Dakine Builder Pack review
The vertical tool carry could be improved with the addition of straps to prevent tools from shifting forward.


Issues

The Builder Pack's vertical tool carry option is clever, but it could use some further refinement. The lower pouch works to hold the tool handles, but the side straps allow them to slide forward and backward, and they'll knock you in the head if you're not careful. Even when the compression straps are wrapped once around the tool handles before buckling there's still more movement than I'd like to see. I'd recommend buying some extra buckles and webbing and running it through the two accessory loops on the side of the pack – that way the tools can be cinched down more securely, and you won't need to worry as much about getting smacked by a shovel



Pinkbike's Take

bigquotesThe Builder Pack is a great option for any trail workers looking for a tough, rugged pack with enough carrying capacity to haul everything from a chainsaw to a six pack of beer deep into the woods (just make sure to use those items in the correct order). The vertical tool carry isn't perfect, but the rest of the pack is well thought out and ideally suited for long days of digging. Mike Kazimer





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97 Comments
  • 117 1
 Looks like a session ....of trailbuilding is in order
  • 70 1
 #2strokeaintdead
  • 6 0
 I bet fuel injection will save us die hard 2 stroke fans.
  • 24 0
 Wait for 3-stroke, the middle ground between rolling capabilities of 4-stroke and agility of 2-stroke
  • 4 1
 @Whipperman: Rotary engines came and went
  • 1 0
 @WolfStoneD: LOL my old room mate has been through over 20 engines in his RX7.
  • 23 1
 Picture with a chainsaw? Especially with a longer bar
  • 36 0
 Here is a photo with a chainsaw
www.pinkbike.com/photo/14752270
  • 15 1
 Yea how it carries the main thing it's made to carry is pretty important.
  • 4 0
 @dakine: thanks.
  • 2 0
 Been looking at this for weeks now at the shop thinking, it is the best damn travel bag on the market. You could live out of that thing!
  • 2 0
 @dakine:

we are in love!!! (here at Isla Bruja Lodge)

cheers from the Chiloe Island, Chile
  • 6 0
 @dakine: I think so many photos can be improved by adding a chainsaw
  • 2 0
 @dakine: Love it! I use the MEC chainsaw bag at work and the big problem is that your saw is too far out from your body, shifting the weight. Looks like you guys did a great job keeping the saw in close! I'll have to get one to compare. [or hook me up with one Wink ]
  • 17 0
 Okay, now do a review of the EVOC pack... so we can have an EPIC BUILDER PACK SHOWDOWN!!!! DUNH DUNH DUUUUUNH
  • 15 1
 Looks great but to be honest, if it's not 100% waterproof it's not much use in BC, especially on the coast where most of the trail building happens during the fall / winter / spring. So far the MEC dry bags are the only affordable option I've found after 2 years of full time building
  • 8 1
 I've used an old Ikea bag all tied up to cover up stuff. Not elegant i guess but you get extra style points
  • 10 7
 @leelau: you could build hell of a lot of trail features using second hand Ikea furniture that ends up on waste dump sooner or later...
  • 3 1
 I purchased my second Builder pack last year after the old pack's zippers finally wore out after six years of wet BC build seasons. I now throw a spare rain jacket over the current pack when it's not on my back and that helps keep it dry. My building buddy recently received one of the new MEC build packs and it has a removable rain cover which works well to keep pack dry. Good to hear the new pack has an aluminum frame. Biggest issue I found with the old model pack was weight distribution... I'll often have a saw, fuel, axe, fro, wedges, hammer, nails, water, etc., and it's damn uncomfortable pulling on my shoulders and digging into my lower back. Extra external spots for fuel is nice touch too.
  • 2 0
 Just buy one of these
www.ospreypacks.com/nz/en/product/high-visibility-raincover-HVRC_719.html

Or make one which what I did, got a friend to sew up some rain material with similar elastic bandy material, waterproof done!
  • 8 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Yeah ladders made of wet chip board Smile
  • 2 1
 What are you trying to keep dry when you're out building? Just thinking most of the stuff I take with me can get wet and it's fine. The only thing I keep in a ziploc is my deadfall permit. I'm in Alberta so we only get a fraction of the rain BC does (maybe not this year) but I would think the bag is packed with similar gear.
  • 2 1
 @juicebanger: phone. Food. Wallet Most of the times i remember a ziploc. Sometimes i just forget
  • 2 1
 @leelau: That's fair. If that's it then a really small dry bag inside the pack would work. But I mean, Canadian cash is waterproof, you can stick your phone in a case, and just use some tupperware for your sammy! Problem solved!
  • 6 2
 @WAKIdesigns: Glue filled chipboard, covered in oil based plastics being taken in to natural environments...yeh great way to help the environment.
  • 3 0
 @leelau @juicebanger: A lot needs to be kept dry. Extra clothing for variable weather in winter months, your lunch, your phone, first aid kit, small saw tools, truck keys etc. Those rain covers don't hold up in the 50+ mm rain days that we get regularly here on the coast. And if you are building consecutive days in a week, then packing in the morning for a new day sucks when your bag is saturated.

I've seen rain covers, garbage bags, all that stuff, they simply don't cover the entire bag, and if you are regularly opening / closing your bike to grab snacks / lunch / water etc, then you are taking that cover off, and every time you do that your bag is once again exposed. The only real solution in my eyes is a fully waterproof and tear resistant bag
  • 1 0
 @james529529: Plus who wants a smelly bag from not drying out properly , also not everyone wants to completely empty their kit each and every-time one uses it .
  • 2 0
 @stickboy: Agree that this latest version with aluminum frame will be an improvement over the limp noodle back panel found in earlier versions which made load carrying sometimes problematic. Not sure I like the outboard fuel carry on the chainsaw panel. Potential for water bottle rupture as the pack is dumped. Also, would miss the tool carry sleeves on the previous model. I was able to remove my pick/mattock with one click of a buckle without removing the pack. Much superior to a couple of staps.
  • 1 0
 @stickboy: Agree that this latest version with aluminum frame will be an improvement over the limp noodle back panel found in earlier versions which made load carrying sometimes problematic. Not sure I like the outboard fuel carry on the chainsaw panel. Potential for water bottle rupture as the pack is dumped. Also, would miss the tool carry sleeves on the previous model. I was able to remove my pick/mattock with one click of a buckle without removing the pack. Much superior to a couple of staps.
  • 5 0
 Don't mean to hijack this thread, but the talk about Trail Boss tools reminded me of this: Specialized prototype trail builder bike.

p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/18548/photos/114502/s1600_DSC1400.jpg?1493151630

p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/4036/max_DSC1401.jpg?1493154436

I rode this bike in person at Access4Bikes (Marin County trail advocacy group) Ales and Trails Festival. This thing is burly as all get out, but that levo "motor" sure did help it scoot along.
  • 2 0
 Looks nice and well thought out! Now we have trail building combined with e-bikes. The exact opposites in pinkbikes hate-love spectrum
  • 8 0
 $180, I'll keep putting my chainsaw in a IKEA bag.
  • 2 0
 looks like you can get it for ~$150. i know that's still expensive, but figured i would point that out
  • 2 0
 I got an onone 456 evo2 26" frame (w/ rack mounts)for about 140€ plus shipping costs and a rack in decathlon 15€. And built a mule with old standards components that where hanging around (2x9 Drive train, longer stems/ narrow bars, 100mm/135mm hubs/wheels, old headsets, etc..)

Chainsaw on top the rack; small hardware (hammer, nails, etc), sandbags (empty ofcourse), fuel and oil in the rack sack; rake and shovel strapped all along the top tube. If needed i could swop the saw for a 20l water tank.


Before that, somehow i managed to place all that staff in an old army backpack, but my lower back was in full pain when I reach the building spot
  • 1 0
 Yeah, I'm gonna keep using the same 37$ backpack I got from Amazon that I've had for 4 years.
  • 1 0
 @LuisCR:

I think for building a trail mule, a lower end fat bike would do wonders, especially pulling a trailer. Especially any of the ones that have multiple fork rack mounts. A KHS FS1000 for example.

khsbicycles.com/bikes/2017-khs-models/4-season-1000-17

forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/2016-khs-four-seasons-1000-probably-one-best-bargains-model-season-998622.html
  • 1 0
 @deeeight: yes! Or the kona remote, looks like the perfect machine for the task.

When I ordered the 456 evo2 there was a 'fatty' frame on sale to, probabily a better option, but that would mean a new fork, cranks and wheelset.
  • 2 0
 I used a fat bike for a trip or two, but have now changed to a fat bike with 27.5+ wheels. Panniers for extra fuel and bar oil, Dakine builder pack for saw, fuel, bar oil, saw safety gear & Trail boss Rogue hoe.
  • 2 0
 Some early season trail clearing on fat bikes, we had to use snowshoes to access due to 5 feet of snow on North side. www.pinkbike.com/photo/14936262
  • 5 0
 A good friend of mine has this bag and hates the vertical tool carry feature with all of his soul. Tools are constantly shifting and smacking him in the head.
  • 1 0
 dangit. that's exactly why i was considering this pack
  • 2 0
 Yup. It's pretty obvious too in that ill thought out photo op...
  • 3 0
 You know that the trail tool breaks down into 5 pieces! Would be much easier to carry that way. Pack in in the main compartment.
Very cool tool, Trail Boss trailbossusa.com.
Always such a pain to carry heavy tools to the different, far away trail locations. Thank you to all the trailbuilders for what you do.
  • 4 0
 For sure - that's why I have it - it's super handy. I just used it in its fully assembled position to demonstrate what carrying a non-collapsible tool would look like.
  • 1 0
 Well....it does look like you'd be getting smacked in the head and knocking the back of your boots into the bottom of the tools(on rougher hikes), also smacking you in the back of the head. Observation from a local Builder Smile
  • 5 0
 @loopie: Yep, and that's what I wrote in the review.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: Sorry Kaz....missed that part.
  • 1 2
 Yea ill carry multiple tools for that price. jeeze
  • 3 0
 The Trail Boss is a great tool and I love mine but isn't suited for all day build sessions. It is lighter than a non-collapsible tool and beats your hands up for longer building sessions. So, vertical carry is important. My current solution is to use tools from J&R fire tools - the heads bolt onto a standard wood handle so you can carry multiple heads and attach them at the site.
  • 1 0
 A friend of mine uses a bob yak to lug around tools, not the most enjoyable way to the trails but I can't imagine having a big old chainsaw, spade etc in your backpack being much better.
  • 2 0
 @jjgoride: Thanks for that heads up. Hadn't heard of that brand before.
  • 3 0
 @groghunter: check out www.supplycache.com/Digging-Tools/products/93 to find them - reasonable shipping as well. The heads are a little lighter than the rogue ones but work well enough with the heavier handle.
  • 2 0
 @jjgoride: nice. The biggest challenge I think we have is raking debris rock off of bedrock, seems like every tool gets caught on points. So, I am super interested in that fire broom they show, might be just the ticket for that sort of thing.
  • 4 1
 Looks nice
Someone should create
A box with tools., pump , etc
To install in some trails
A nice compact service station
Honest people can be carefull and colaborare
Like leaving a tube , for someone else
Or adding tools etc
Some comunity oriented
Rough that can last the climate
Park tool maybe???
  • 2 0
 I'm just thinking the color of the external fabric sucks, it should be some bright 80's fluorescent.
Ever worked a while on multiple trails, raise your head up, look around and have no clue where you last dropped off your pack or where a friend left it?
  • 2 0
 Been using the older generation Dakine Builder pack for about 5 years. I'd be interested in trying the new one as there are a few things I'd change, main one is for it to be longer as this older gen is a little short for my upper body. I use it for multi-day bike packing/trail clearing trips, pic is of a recent 3 day/2 night trip. Pack contains saw, 2 bottles of fuel, 1 bottle of bar oil, spare chains, spare bar, spare bar nuts, saw tools, chaps, ear muffs, tarp, Trailboss Rogue hoe, hatchet, wedges.
Panniers contain 2 bottles of fuel, 2 more bottles of bar oil, and the bikepacking gear. My wife carries the food and stove. Bike is a fat bike with 27.5+ wheel set on it.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/14936198
  • 2 0
 Pic of the first generation Builder pack is here:
www.pinkbike.com/photo/9647222

A friend has one and I've used it, main problem I found was that the fuel pockets were too short so you couldn't close the zippers completely. I have the black model with the longer fuel pockets.
  • 3 2
 What about the Builder Jersey? Gloves? Shorts?
We need more options marketing people.
It also seems weird to use a regular riding helmet for trail building?

I like the way the tool is positioned on the pack... ready to strike the head.
  • 1 0
 You don't take a helmet with you when you're working on trails? Gotta test your features. You can't build then just leave it without knowing what you built is safe for anyone else that might end up riding it or finding it.
  • 1 1
 @Wesley-Swipes: i think he was being facetious
  • 5 0
 Competitive backpacking is just... Right... There. Enbackero,
  • 1 0
 Looks like your dome would get chopped to bits walking around with any macleod, pulaski, pick axe in the vertical tool carry. I still like my jansport backpack with broken zippers. Any spending goes to better tools or better bike parts Smile .
  • 1 0
 yeah, i'm curious about how well this works, as the long tool carry is the main reason i'm considering this pack. i doubt i'll ever own a bob trailer, so this is probably the next best thing
  • 2 1
 seekoutside.com/revolution-fortress-4800

Solid back frame, easy to toss a chainsaw on, good belt and support for carrying heavy weight. waterproof fabric.

can unstrap the main pack bag and carry logs or other things strapped to the frame.
  • 2 0
 Too bad you won't be able to afford a bike at that price... Even the Dakine & EVOC bags are hard to justify due to cost for us poor trail work nerds.
  • 2 0
 $500?? does it have robotic arms and legs that pop out and do the trail work for you?
  • 3 0
 Gosh! the Graffiti Artists will be after this, it's got somewhere to store their paint cans! Big Grin
  • 1 0
 can put a lot of paint in a 40L bag....
  • 2 2
 The addition of the fuel bottles storage is a nice touch but I think its going to be outdated soon...

WIth the major players in the industry having moved to battery powered tools (chainsaws, trimmers) soon the need for fuel bottles will be obsolete...

Already battery packs (heavy, large and expensive for the time being) for chainsaws are available which allow for 14 - 18 hours of work before recharging - more than enough for a day or two of trail building.

I think their approach should be to develop a pack that would integrate battery packs and room for storage...
  • 4 0
 Well i have worked with both and one battery pack lasts aubout the same time as 1.5 Petrol tanks and weighs more. also having more than 2 battery packs is not viable due to the cost of them. i can carry 2 bottles of Petrol and work for about 3 hours. that would not be possible running on batteries. if however you only trimm the occasional branch or fallen log, yes the battery powered saw would be better. If you actually fell trees and use them as timer souce a battery powered saw will quickly reach its limit. Also there are no truely powerfull battery saws of which i know. they all max out at 2 kW
  • 6 0
 Not for multi-day bike packing/trail clearing trips. No generator out there to recharge batteries. Gas tools will be around for a while.
  • 2 0
 @CraigHinCA: and if you would still Need to carry gas for that.

and i have yet to see a 7hp electrical chainsaw for cutting slabs
  • 3 0
 Just at a first glance I'll keep my EVOC builder pack. Love that thing.
  • 1 0
 can the evoc carry long tools like a macleod vertically?
  • 2 0
 @xeren: Hell yeah it can! It has a bottom strap that keeps tools from falling out and they don't move around much at all. I love mine. I leave cheap tools like shovels stashed in the forest near the trail and the more expensive ones like rogue hoes travel with me on the pack when I go out. I've even figured out a way to carry two chainsaws with it for when I go carving. Big saw for bucking, little guy for carving!
  • 1 0
 @juicebanger: awesome, thanks for the info! so you would put the macleod with the head down, unlike how the one is pictured with the dakine pack in this review (with the head up), right?
  • 2 0
 @xeren: Correct. Tool goes in head side down so you can strap it in.
  • 2 0
 @xeren: yeah head down. You don't even know it's there until you go under a low branch. Having the heavy part down keeps it from moving much while riding.
  • 1 0
 @juicebanger @Ncaxtech thanks guys! i think i'll be grabbing this pack
  • 1 0
 EVOC is twice the price from what I can see
  • 1 0
 @WolfStoneD: at least in the USA, I can get the dakine for $150, the evoc for $210
  • 2 0
 @WolfStoneD @xeren : I ordered mine through a shop I working at part time so I did get a good price. However, especially having owned it for about a year now, even if I had paid full price it would've been worth every penny for me. I'm sure the Dakine pack is good too, but I can't speak from experience to it. I KNOW the EVOC bag is unreal and would recommend it 10 times over.
  • 3 0
 Where does the chainsaw go??
  • 3 0
 Ah... the question of our age.
  • 1 0
 See LeeL's question & Dakine's pic reply above.
  • 3 0
 'Buyers beware: Weed grinder sold separately!'
  • 2 0
 Canada most everyone already has one or two anyways.
  • 1 0
 Maybe I'm doing something differently than everyone else, but I've been using a older version of a 37$ backpack off Amazon for almost 4 years now...
  • 1 0
 Maybe enlighten us about this bag?
  • 1 0
 Oh ya, frame bag contains bike spares, cup, utensils, folding saw, etc. Bar bag is sleeping bag & tent.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer, did you actually carry that Builder's pack around for a while? ; )
  • 3 0
 Rogue hoes
  • 1 0
 Hope you gave this to Andy G for a while to test properly!
  • 1 0
 Where do you get them??
  • 1 0
 Anyone that sells the bike Dakine packs can get them. My wife bought ours through Valhalla.







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