Enter to Win A Pole Evolink 158 Frameset - Pinkbike's Advent Calendar Giveaway

 22 prototype rear ends Should be enough for a couple days in Whistler

 22 prototype rear ends? Savage haha

 Haha you win

 Well, it is actually designed to fold for transport.

 Oh snap

 It's certainly going to be polarizing... I hope they Finnish reinforcing the chainstays before shipping.

 I would love to win this

 @JohnnyVV: See, horse was dead already. The Evolink bikes have always been just fine. And is the Evolink even produced in Finland?

 @vinay: The Evolink frames are made in Taiwan.

 @vinay: I mean...it's a Finnish company, no? Sorry for not fact-checking my pun to your exacting standards. Why so salty?

 Only on Pinkbike would people make so much stink about a chance to win something free worth’s fair bit of money, for just about zero effort. Pfft.
Merry Christmas everyone.

 @g123: what stink? There is more whinge factor in this comment than the rest of them.

 @zyoungson: must agree, it’s wonderfully toxic. But my favorite comments go more or less like this: “X company started by X guy with blood, sweat and tears, to deliver X components, with only quality in mind, but hey it’s Pinkbike, let’s throw crap at them” Another kind: “thanks to social media village fools have been given the voice, what a world we are living in today”, “these days nobody really cares about another human being”. I often wonder... why don’t these people just shoot themselves... into outer space. Perfect candidates for one way trip to Mars.

 Today I learned Mr. Kokokonener has a blog.

 Hold on, let me get my tinfoil hat for this.

 I totally agree, but to be fair, it's very difficult to police duplicate profiles.

 Yeah , sucks. but is whats it is. Have never won anything before, i'm sure there are people with heaps of made up accounts just for the giveaways.

 You would have to create thousands of duplicate profiles to increase your chance of winning from next to nothing to just low.

 @TheR: and someone with skills could write a program to do just that. Wouldn’t be hard to game at all. I agree that accounts should be a little bit vetted before they contact them and let them know they won. Looks like a bogus account? Draw another name.

 @speed10: Maybe, but if I think that were happening, you would see some unrealistic number of accounts — like hundreds of millions of total accounts, or hundred of thousand of accounts in a day. It would be fairly obvious to whomever is running the site and contest.

 @TheR: Put another way: I could create one fake account right now, and instantly have the twice the chance of winning that you have. How hard is it to take a look at the name you pull and run it through some stats? How many logins in the past year? Any pictures posted? Trailforks rides logged? Comments? Any of that?

Maybe that’s too idealistic and you think everyone is happy with the current setup, but every year some posts this argument.

 @speed10: A second account would double your chance of winning, but from one minuscule fraction of a percent to a slightly higher minuscule fraction of a percent.

Let’s say 1,000 people enter the contest, and everyone only enters once. Even then, your chance of winning is .01 percent. If you have two, you double your odds to .02 percent. Put another way, you have a 99.99 and 99.98 chance of NOT winning respectively. You would have to have 100 duplicate account to increase your chance of winning to 10 percent. And even then, your chance of NOT winning is 90 percent.

Now, seeing as how there are far many more people entering each day than that, and your chances of winning is very small. Not as small as the lottery, but not worth the calorie burn of creating five extra accounts.

As someone mentioned, you could create a bit to do it, maybe. But then that would be fairly obvious to whoever is administering the site, and hopefully they’re on top of it.

As for your suggestion — looking at comments or other account activity, well then that puts conditions on a sweepstakes that opens them to legal liability. They couldn’t do it.

 @speed10: I guess the challenge is that someone with multiple email addresses setting up a second account would be indistinguishable from the new user for whom the advent calendar was an excuse to finally set up an account, unless you get into more sophisticated stuff like IP tracking and other such expensive things.

 Or a long time reader who never had any reason to create an account until they wanted to enter the comp.

 Perhaps PB limit giveaways, competitions etc. only to people that have had an account for a year (whatever) and have made contributions (comments, posts etc.). That way only bone fide users can enter AND Pinkbike gets it's membership up.

 @TheR: So you need 1000 accounts.

 @bendy12345 yeah but I saw someone else being all bitter about not winning stuff and now you - maybe YOU’RE the duplicate

 that's what i liked about the fantasy league - visible active members winning something

 I have over 100 accounts just in case a comment I make gets downvoted

 @TheR: check your math... 1/1000 = 0.001 = 0.1%... and not 0.01%... point is still valid though

 @Davichin: Yes, you’re right. My bad. 99.9 percent chance you’re going to lose, and in reality it’s not even that good.

 I'm going to put my tinfoil hat on here and take this a step further. I think that either Pinkbike or companies having their product reviewed create fake accounts to give credit to or to hype up the product being reviewed.

So many times I've seen a big product release and if you scroll through the comments, you'll see a handful of comments like:
"Wow, what a beautiful bike. I myself have owned a handful of products from (company name) over the last 10 years and have never been disappointed."

When you look at their profile, it's empty, and that is their only comment.

 It has to be around 1 to 40 000, I guess. Or worse.

 @brcz: there are over 800K members, many inactive, but also many multiple accounts. Not sure how pb deals with people that have 5 accounts and enter each contest with all their accounts. But yeah the odds are low

 @zede: what makes these sweepstakes fishy is how many times some users have won, even twice during the same Advent Calendar run. Against all odds as you say.

 @southoftheborder: I guess there are specific criteria that are not explained in the "conditions" like you must fill all the fields like age, sex, address, phone number etc. And many people like me have probably left all these fields empty and will never win because it excludes them from the draw. This combined to the odds, means you will most certainly never win anything. Still weird that some people won several time

 @southoftheborder: We must dig deeper into this case

 @zede: Even if you have five accounts, your odds barely increase. You’d have to have thousands of accounts to put anything remotely in your favor.

 @southoftheborder: if memory serves there is one person who has ever won twice. That’s not beyond the realm of possibility.

 31 in around 40,000

 That's where I was for years before looking into it and realized the email I had associated with my account hadn't been used in a decade. Tried to update with current email but it won't ever stay. Have tried the last two years to contact Pinkbike to correct issue to no avail. Tried a different tactic and comment bombed and got my account suspended. Nothing hostile. So FYI for everyone, if you post the same comment five times you get automatically suspended. Through a million emails to every possible Pinkbike account I could find I was able to get my suspension lifted but they still couldn't figure out how to fix my email. So even being active here since 2001 I probably have no chance of winning this. @zede:

 @dro-cfr: wow, just wow!

 @dro-cfr: When I signed up, it rejected my chosen username (IIRC it thought it was already in use when it wasn't) but associated it with my email address anyway and then told me the email address was in use when I tried again. They were able to fix it but... there's some weirdness lurking within PB's systems.

 @zede: where did you read that? It's not in the Terms & Conditions of the contest...

 @boozed: no doubt. I just worry that if I did win I'd never be notified. He'll I've probably won in the past, I've signed up for every contest they've ever run

 @pnwpedal: I know it's not written in the term and conditions, but how would they screen otherwise for multi accounts? I'm just suggesting a possible reason, I'm not stating anything

 @dro-cfr:
I believe you also get notified through the Pinkbike messsaging system, so when you visit you’d see that you “have mail”.

 @zede: In the US, as well as Canada, we have pretty strict rules when it comes to giveaways, raffles, contests, etc. If a rule isn't written in the T&C it's actually illegal to disqualify people with that rule. And for reference, my account here is almost 15 years old and has never had my gender, birthdate, address, etc listed. So I highly doubt that accounts are screened for those criteria.

 @islandforlife: well that's a relief. I guess I just have sheet luck

 That’d be hard to swallow...

 @korev: very well crafted. Did you sit on that one a while?

 Funny that you've mentioned that. Since I've just bought an evolink, My friend jokingly said that I was a male stripper because I'm riding a "pole".

 I'm with you! Haha

 maybe you really are too fat to huck?

 Just merge this with your ultimate wheel and off you go.

 lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

 Just make sure the rear triangle won’t snap though.....

 They’re running a Xmas sale.

 @DrPete: yeah I saw that today now

 Nice try, but your 26" sob story won't work here

 @nordland071285: haha nothing is likely to work!

 The anti-Christian sentiment is reaching high levels of insanity, mostly by people who have a very shallow understanding of the religion.

 Imagine thinking not wishing someone "Merry Christmas" is an assault on Christianity.

 @JohanG: Is it 'Happy Impeachment' or 'Merry Impeachment'?

Don't want to offend you, so I'll go with your preference.

 @EnduRowan:
Doesn’t matter, he’s not going anywhere.

 @cvoc: Impeach Navidad, then.

 Did New Year get cancelled this year?

 @JohanG: "people who have a very shallow understanding of the religion." i.e., most Christians

 @JohanG: Well calling these holidays Christmas/Christmas holidays makes no sense, considering both historical evidence and biblical clues indicate the christ was not born in December. So why would we call it Christmas holidays instead of holidays ?

As always, the first people to feel that "their religion is attacked" are often the ones who know the least about it

 So actually your winning a significant credit card debt, probably a divorce and a few years playing hude and seel from the baliffs....sod it I'm in

 If I read it correctly the EXT frameset comes with the Storia EXT which makes the $1775 USD retail price quite cheap given a Storia on its own is about £900.

 I’m confused, where does it say it doesn’t come with the shock? Surely it should?

 Why are some already listed and others not? Do I get a pm or something if I win?

 @tobiusmaximum: It says "+ EXT frameset".

 @bishopsmike: yeah, to me that implies that it comes with the shock?

 Gift horse in the mouth, and all that.

 @Germanmike: the winners are notified and then they have 5 days to reply. If they don't, the runner up gets notified, and so on. The prizes with winners already listed have supposedly replied back to PB staff, or that how I understood it.