The Lošinj World Cup DH Track Will be Brutal for Wheels & Tyres - Video

 4 ply? How much do they weigh?

 @LoganKM1982: If you're really hardcore and cheapass, you can run tyres inside tyres - my friend used to run 1.5" inside 2.00" tyres. Yes, his bike was quite heavy...

 @LoganKM1982: easily double lolol. the 2.7 909 4ply is probably 1700 grams if not more.

 @DarrellW: that is both nuts and genius. I'm still more likely to do this than stick a pool noodle in there.

 @LoganKM1982: I got some on sale when I built my first DH bike an didn't know any better. When the postie gave me the box, it was so heavy I nearly dropped it

 I run a Huck Norris on top of a Flat Tire Defender on top of a Cush Core on top of ghetto tubeless on top of Enve rim strips on top of steel wheelsets.

 @Thustlewhumber: and you still flatted you hack.

 @DarrellW: That is like Schwalbe/Syntace Procore, isn't it?

 Man they broke more than a finger to put them on tough AF

 Yes... but has anyone tried Mo'air insert?

 @SnowshoeRider4Life: yassss!!!! That's epic!

 @nojzilla: right? I would think your bike was planted though when you got up to speed, like glued to the ground on rails planted

 @DarrellW: I only really got into (could afford) downhill after the 2014 revolution in mfg standards and tech.

I've always run maxxis and just switched to onza ibex. The dhc 27.5x2.4 in visco is amazing. That and I do the ghetto tubeless trick just to protect the rims. Cushcore, a thick tube as rim tape and my rear tire has (knock on wood) never been a problem, even spent an afternoon on a flat like a hack without noticing. The rim was almost square the next day. I blame the odd pungent fog often present in Tahoe, especially in recent years.

 @LoganKM1982: as soon as I got thing oot the start hill ;D

 Me too, can't deny you could not puncture them things if you tried!!

 @SnowshoeRider4Life: This grip is remarkable but way too heavy. I loved them on an old LT hardtail, and DH bike. Them days are gone lol

 @DarrellW: that's what early prototypes of procore were lol

 No one mentioned about SAILL

 @SnowshoeRider4Life: I had some of the edge fro casings that were heavy as f*** but I could still run 25 psi at skibowl with no worries!

 @WAKIdesigns: especially when half the track is concrete, that might be the right futuristic technology to win

 aint dead

 Just because its rocky and break rims doesn't mean its "difficult" for the best riders in the world. It just means its rocky. I hope its good, but it still looks pretty janky to me.

 Builders : “fully natural 100% handmade”

Meanwhile, cement fixed rock gardens and bulldozers pushing dirt

 @sino428: The course looks pretty bunk. Especially when someone yard sales into the boulders on the side. Doesnt matter how good you are at crashing, youre fugged if you do it here.

 @sino428: You wouldn't consider roughness so bad that you get multiple flats/dinged rims as difficult? OK bud.

 @scott-townes: no i would not necessarily call it difficult for word cup riders. Like I said, all it means is that there is a bunch of rocks. Rough does not mean difficult, just like smooth does not always mean easy.

 @sino428: what ? really ? Only case of smooth and difficult I can think of is massive jumps, which mostly require basic technic and lost of balls. Whereas I can't think of any rock garden not requiring loads of technic to be made smooth and fast. But maybe you can illustrate ?

 @Balgaroth: stairs are rough as.. You'd get loads of flats too, but it doesn't require much skill to ride straight down them

 @blitz66: yeah but stairs are evenly spaced and evenly dropped. Rock gardens are neither.

 So Lourdes has been replaced with this pile of rubble?

 @blitz66: this is exactly my point. Rough does not automatically mean difficult. Just because the rocks are sharp or square edges doesn’t mean it’s a ‘difficult’ track. A difficult rock garden would be one wheee line choice is critical, where holes can swallow up a front tire and take a ride down, where rocks can bring a ride to a dead stop, etc. This just looks like a one line in most places that they just have to plow through and hope they don’t get a flat.

 @RedBurn: Come on man, stop this shit already! Jesus you're annoying!

 @sino428: You're missing the point. In a race where you have to make it to the bottom without any mechanicals while at the same time being fast, that is extremely difficult. I highly doubt you've ever been in a situation where you had to balance being smooth vs. being fast and altering your riding style and line choices because of that. Its not as simple as pointing it straight and hoping for the best.

"A difficult rock garden would be one (where) line choice is critical" Yes, that's exactly what will happen here. "This just looks like a one line in most places" What you think it looks like.. brilliant. Its no different than the clueless who hated on the track to begin with saying it looked to basic, easy, flat, etc.

 @RedBurn: It is natural, cement is a mixture of natural ingredients. Since you watched the builders vid, you also know that they only used machinery at the top of the track to get all that dirt placed. Maybe organic would be the better term?

Let us know when you have your track built so we can come shred it, bro!

 @Balgaroth: So, you're basically sayin' that with basic technique I can go to any venue in the Fest Series and hit them jumps?

 @Balgaroth BMX tracks are smooth while also requiring technical riding ability.

 @scott-townes: I can throw a bunch of thumb tacks down in the street and and ask you to ride through it without getting a flat. That doesn't mean its a difficult course.

Also how many line choices do they have on the course where there are riding between two rock walls?

 @m1dg3t: Typical response when you have no real argument.

This is about WC riders and and the quality of venue that is expected for the highest level of racing. To me, from what I've seen thus far, this track does looks like a mess. I hope I'm wrong, but that's what I see so far.

Whether I can ride the track is irrelevant. I'm not on the World Cup circuit so I don't have too. I'm a fan and fans are allowed to have an opinion. Just like if I am watching a basketball or hockey game, I know when a player sucks. Of course even the worst professional are better than any fan, but that doesn't mean we can't be critical. Because in the context of that sport, in comparison to the other players, that player sucks and we know it. In the case of this track, my opinion so far is that it looks like it sucks in comparison to most other WC venues.

 @scott-townes: Name calling now? Pretty standard procedure when you can't make any real argument.

I don't need to see the course taped. I watched the preview video where a good portion of the rocky sections are lined by huge rock walls. What are you expecting riders to do, ride up on the rock walls? There's only one line through those sections. Anyone can see that.

 @scott-townes: OK, whatever you say. Next time Pinkbike posts a course preview we can all just pretend what we saw on the video (like big f*cking rock walls lining the track) doesn't exist.

 @scott-townes: Your right, I re-watched and its not the whole trail lined with rock walls. Oh wait yes it is. Even the uphill paved sections of the track are lined with walls.

 @sino428: Not difficult? are you senseless mate? This is difficult. Picking a fast, clean line and not getting a flattie or mechanical through a rock garden (or staircase) is all part of the difficulty - it's what makes racing, they make tough decisions based on what will get them to the bottom of the hill fastest and that includes adjusting lines through these rock gardens to minimise the chance of mechanicals or knowing they can take a gamble and hit rock a, b & c take in the right place to keep speed. Oh, by the way, my misses raced this track for European champs last year...

 @boardnz: BUT BRO ITS LIKE TACKS ON A SIDEWALK ISN'T DIFFICULT!!!

 @spankthewan: Well aren't they dead easy ? I mean I can take a road bike and ride them, maybe not fast but I still could go from start to bottom. I couldn't do Cairn's rock garden with a road bike, even very very slow tho. Riding a BMX track fast is technical tho I really agree with that, but it's the speed that makes it difficult, not "really" the state of the sufface/shape.

@Davidt89 i'm sorry but yes. Did you ever did drop off of double/table jumps ? Wether I'm doing a 1m or 5m drop off use the same technique accross all the sizes in between, only difference is that I'm likely to dab on the brakes before take off on the bigger ones as I can be scared and this is usually why you crash. Same with doubles really, not committing is what usually make you crash. Then once you start sending tricks or weird jumps it's another story. Point is if you have a good double jump technique and are totally brainless you probably can clear Fest jumps, but most neither have good double jump technique nor are brainless. Like I said, I can ride some decent rock gardens, shit like Cairns rock garden is something only few riders can, aka WC atheletes.

 @hadibe: I think Bruni's smooth riding will prevail on this course. Should be a fun race

 Just assume everyone is going to flat and base it off that haha?

But also just a reasonable assumption regardless.

 @m1dg3t:

True

But I haven't seen Bruni smash through rocks to finish a race without a tyre

 If only Hill would be here...

 @vid1998: Bruni's home trails in France look a lot like this. Craggy, horrendous bullshit that lives to kill momentum and tires. Plus he's coming off a low season, and had a whole off-season to heal and train. He's my pick for senior mens at Losinj.

 @hadibe: I haven't seen Bruni smash through anything! He makes DH tracks look like flow trails LoL

 @TEAM-ROBOT: I think he's also been training with Tomac? A new hunger to win and some seat time with 1 of the greatest MTB pilots may be just what the Dr ordered.

 @TEAM-ROBOT: I also think that he should get onto the podium if not on the top step but seing what Hill has done and how he has done in downhill and now in EWS it would be nice to see how he would do it.
Not to forget Specialized was on the track for a couple of days so they know it.
You should also pay atention at Jure Žabjek, he got good results last year and also helped build the track.

 ????@vid1998:

 Meant ????

 I guess pinkbike doesn’t allow the Thumbs up Emoji. lol

 @vid1998: Jure is injured, unfortunately. Just when he found a bike that truly fit him, too.

 @vid1998: Jure Zabjek helped to build the track and may bladi bla... tell that to Marcelo, not to mention Marcelo is a top 10 WC racer... what Sam did to him was like stealing your girlfriend while you are shagging her.

 @Verbl-Kint: Pitty for Jure...

@WAKIdesigns: Last year he finished 14th, two places behind Guiterez. The thing is he knows the track better than anyone else.

 @TEAM-ROBOT: If bruni wins this race after criticise it is going to be a good karma.

 @TEAM-ROBOT: we have these in santa barbara, where carbon rims go to die, those guys should train here....

 @eriksaun: Yes, we also have rocks in western Alberta. Large ones.

 @TEAM-ROBOT: Less Pinkbike comments, more blog please.

 @vid1998: he is Top 20 and knows the track better than anyone else. There are people like that on nearly every single World Cup venue.

 @teamcliff: yes, his take on CrankBros wheels will be imprinted in my memory forever. It's possibly the most remarkable piece of MTB comedy ever.

 Its austrian german... they likley don't understand each other...

 First thing I thought.

 I wish I could up vote this comment more.

 Someone missed that it was being ironic....

 was it satire? I thought it might have been..

 m.youtube.com/watch?v=a_3_Ztnde5Y

 #skill

 Well... I mean theres always Gwin who will probably flat and break his chain. And still win. At this point its a shot in the dark who will win haha

 Yes, maybe that should have employed the Moar Air (tm) technology.

 Get used to hearing her name more often. Give her a few more years and she will be a regular on the podium. How old is she 16? 17? Future looks bright for her.

 @Boardlife69: she's got that good attitude that makes for a real professional rider too.

 @LoganKM1982: Yup...awesome vlog too...my boy follows her.

 @src248: Sam Pilgrim has a couple course run vids up on the tube. The most recent one I saw gives the best example of what to expect on/from this course.

 @m1dg3t: so glad they haven't posted any videos of the sponsores e-bike eider

 @m1dg3t: *sponsored ebike rider

 @weebleswobbles: he just got a non electric DH bike so maybe there's some hope for him yet

 @src248: Or not ;-) Here's Sam's run: youtu.be/8E-2XL1qJVY

 @weebleswobbles: I'm no 'ebike' advocate, but there is no denying his skills and his vids are definitely entertaining.

 @m1dg3t: I don't really want to watch him or anyone else for that matter ride an ebike

 @weebleswobbles: He doesn't ride only ebikes. They are just 1 of his sponsors.

 How could anyone think that's smooth? Were they thinking of a different track?

 I'm pretty sure there's no other option.

 @spankthewan: until somebody invents hydraulic tyres!

 @winko: e-tyres is the future

 Yes it does, they will came out of the forest with cca 60 km/h and there would be no uphill town section, just kind of a straight street to the finish. This is what director of wc losinj said. m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156257863239715&id=145993584714

 This ain't Canada buddy. This is goat country.

 Ahahaha

 Beleve me even for Austrians hard to get sometimes - that Tiroler german