2 Affordable Alloy Versions of Scott's New Gambler DH Bike Coming This Fall

Aug 8, 2019 at 0:32
by Richard Cunningham  
Scott Alloy Gambler
Scott Gambler Alloy 920

Scott's all new Gambler Tuned topped the World Cup podium shortly after its debut this year and now they've followed their full-carbon elite level DH racer with two new models which will offer the same geometry, adjustability, and dual-wheel-size options at two more affordable price points. Reportedly, the Gambler 910 model will use a carbon front section, with aluminum suspension components, while the Gambler 920 and 930 will feature all aluminum frames. Prices start at €3,699 and according to Scott, the hybrid carbon/aluminum model will launch around November this year, with the alloy models following in December. This should be great news for Scott fans. The official press release follows below:






Introducing the All New Scott Gambler Alloy

PRESS RELEASE: Scott

The all new Gambler was designed for one thing only, pure, unadulterated speed. Alongside our carbon Tuned model, we have three other models available - a hybrid (carbon/alloy) model and two alloy models.

When designing the MY20 Gambler alloy and hybrid models, we didn’t want to just recreate the carbon bike in alloy form. we wanted to design a standalone Gambler that has the quality to be raced and ridden at the highest level. we also wanted to do so in a way that is attainable for everyone. So, how did we get there? Considering the bike as a complete system we broke things down into four main factors: construction, adjustability, geometry and integration.

Scott Alloy Gambler
Scott Alloy Gambler


Construction

Stiffness is a hugely important topic for all downhill bikes, carbon or alloy. We really wanted to have an alloy version that performed as well as the top-notch carbon bike. While carbon is a very tunable material compared to aluminum, once we hit our strength values we were able to play with tube shapes and wall thicknesses to get a frame that resulted in nearly identical stiffness/flex ratios as the Tuned version. This is also the case for the Hybrid Carbon/Alloy Gambler 910. Using our stiffness backbone concept that is present on all our full suspension MTB’s, we avoid putting any loads on the top and downtube. All loads sit on the forged parts, which also allows us to not overbuild seat stays, further reducing weight.



Frame 1
This main frame had a seat tube comprised of three pieces. Two tubes, and 1 forged part with two welds.
frame2
Our new main frame has fewer tubes, and fewer welds. We also optimized BB forging to save weight. Photography: Gaudenz Danuser


Lightweight

We also wanted this bike to be light, and to have desired stiffness / flex values like the carbon version. By working cleverly with aluminum, we gave ourselves a very aggressive weight target that we were able to hit without risking any sacrifice in terms of strength / functionality. Over the past few years, we’ve advanced our alloy development techniques just as much as we have with carbon. The idea with the Gambler was to take away all material that wasn’t needed. Through optimizing forged parts, and utilizing as much tube to tube construction as possible, we were able to save over 600g compared to the previous Gambler. There is 26.4% less forged material volume on this Gambler compared to the previous Alloy model.


Adjustability

Our downhill bikes have always pushed the boundaries of adjustability. Both a rider and a bike need to be able to adapt to tracks, weather conditions and choice of shock (air or coil.) The new Gambler allows you to switch between wheelsizes without changing any other components on the bike. Chain stay length can also be adjusted, independent of wheelsize choice. Short with 29”, sure thing. Long with 27.5? Yep, that too. The Gambler also comes with spare angled headset cups, so that you can adjust head angle relative to wheelsize, fork choice etc.

We also have a 4-way chip to allow not only bottom bracket height adjustment relative to wheelsize, but more importantly for geometry/kinematic tweaks depending on tracks, shocks or rider preference. We want the bike to be optimizable for each shock and rider given the track.

Scott Alloy Gambler
Scott Alloy Gambler
Choose between two chainstay lengths, and 4 different BB positions to always have the perfect setup for each rider, each track, each type of shock etc. Photography: Gaudenz Danuser


Integration

Integration is becoming a more important topic at Scott as time goes by. We spent a lot of time here looking at previous concepts and asking ourselves if we really wanted to grandfather into the new bike performance compromises due to old standards – we didn’t. Enter our proprietary chain guide / bash guard solution.

It seems like it shouldn’t make a huge difference on the bike, but it turns out it does. We even joke saying that it dictated the design of the entire bike. Why make this a proprietary piece? Chain devices are normally made to work with many different bikes and are therefore compromised. We only need to make it work for this one frame and a specific range of chainring sizes, so it can be easier to setup, better performing, lighter and allows us to gain some advantages on the frame construction, further reducing weight and increasing reliability/durability.

Gambler alloy


The new Scott Gambler Alloy models 910, 920 and 930 will be available by November (910) respectively December (920, 930) of 2019. More information on Scott-sports.com by September 2019..com by September 2019.

Gambler alloy

Scott Gambler 910

910

Provisional price €5,999



Gambler alloy

Scott Gambler 920

920

Provisional price €4,399



Gambler alloy

Scott Gambler 930

930

Provisional price €3,699



Scott Alloy Gambler

Geometry Gambler




Update: Prices added


137 Comments

  • 147 0
 ohh how times have changed. we used to wait for the carbon models, now its the other way around !
  • 39 0
 Exactly now waiting for these aluminum joints to drop, raw one has my name on it.
  • 54 0
 Aluminium for president!
  • 4 33
flag BenPea (Aug 8, 2019 at 3:20) (Below Threshold)
 @theunknowncustodian: Aloominum you mean. Alu + carbon = divide, conquer, make lots of $. Similar to the current presidential remit.
  • 36 0
 The raw aluminium one looks beautiful
  • 4 0
 @BenPea: Not quite sure if i've got you there...
  • 7 10
 @theunknowncustodian: just a bit of freeform BS
  • 2 0
 Make america aluminum again
  • 1 2
 Make Aluminum Galvanize Again!
  • 66 1
 1 - How is "Prices have not been divulged" affordable?
2 - That raw alu version is the sickest looking DH bike I've seen in a long while
  • 8 10
 Don't you know that if it is Alu then it has to be cheap ? Surely making high end bike out of Alu is nonsense really !
  • 13 14
 @Balgaroth: Starting at €3699 !! Alu Sender is nearly €1k cheaper
  • 55 6
 @sewer-rat: yeah but it's a canyon.
  • 21 1
 @Balgaroth: I don't see why you can't have a high end Alu bike. Less cost on the frame means better group set and suspension which is more likely to impact the 'feel' of the bike.
  • 9 0
 @He-Who-Rides: pretty sure he was joking.

But yeah, Commencal for instance.
  • 6 0
 @alexhyland: Perhaps! That's the trouble with the internet, no tone of voice on a written comment Razz
  • 11 0
 @He-Who-Rides: yeah but if you’re building a bomb proof dh sled, why build it up high end to beat on it? Full zee or bust
  • 11 7
 you guys ever see the santa cruz frame strength test on the jig? the ally one failed with a slow bending before it slumped into a twisted mess - but it held up well. Carbon one got to the point of failure of the alu one and only went a tiny percentage passed it before exploding. sure it handled marginally higher stress but only for a moment before it failed catastrophically. I know which way i'd rather go. Alu for life!
  • 3 1
 @sewer-rat: Direct sales model will always be cheaper but on the other hand you will find that Scott with 20% off easily. But yes I'd go with the Canyon, YT or Commencal no questions asked.
  • 3 5
 @colincolin: and the Gambler is a Scott ! So what is your point ?
  • 9 1
 @He-Who-Rides: Tell me about it, I ride a 2019 Force Elite (alloy) and the only reason why my Fury is half carbon is because GT doesn't do a full Alloy version. Kinematics and Geo, then quality tires, then quality suspensions, then I don't give a f*** about the rest as long as it isn't Sram.
  • 2 0
 @pargolf8: Yeah true enough! But no one said about it being bombproof (at least that isn't the point of the article) You can have a race worthy bike with an Alu frame. Or you can go bombproof and low cost which I'm all for. Depends on the intended use vs budget
  • 7 1
 @colezordz: Tiny percentage? Dude the carbon frame was literally 100% stronger in the impact test. Sure the alloy didn't explode, but it's still unrideable.
  • 4 0
 @cgreaseman: I think the point @colezordz was trying to make is that carbon suffers from catastrophic failures were alu tends to slowly bend to do its malleability. Once the bond between resin and carbon fibres are broken it starts a chain reaction of failures local to that area meaning the material rapidly and near instantly collapses.
  • 2 0
 @cgreaseman: exactly what He-Who-Rides just said. Also if you add impact resistance in the equation and do the test again this might be much less pretty. A ding on an alloy frame mostly won't do anything. On a carbon frame you won't see anything and then next thing you know you have a frame exploding out of nowhere.
  • 3 2
 @colezordz: umm it was a bit more than a tiny percentage. 40% more weight on the jig (1464lbs vs 2050 lbs for carbon), over double for a nose case style impact (85 lbs dropped at 450mm vs 110lbs dropped at 900mm). As for how they fail, I think both will catastrophically fail if a crack is left unattended. From what I've seen, carbon bikes tend to hold the rest of the frame shape pretty well when they fail (unless the headtube shears off), which to me, seems to be the same with alloy. Yeah it shows a crack that is easier to see, but it will eventually just snap too. At least with carbon, you can safely repair the frame if you aren't under warranty.
  • 42 1
 Note to all manufacturers: Almost all evolved monkeys agree, bare metal looks great.
  • 25 0
 Aluminium Frame, Praise the Lord Baby Jesus
  • 3 0
 But is it available as a frame-only? I don't think so...
  • 8 1
 Now if they could just do away with pressfit.
  • 7 1
 I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagles wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm HAMMERED DRUNK!
  • 9 0
 @DuelingBanjos: I like to picture Jesus in a tuxedo T-shirt because it says I want to be formal, but I'm here to party.
  • 13 1
 Absolutely gorgeous bike, sick video too. The (few) DH runs around here are about 1-2min, I'm shit at any kind of riding where the wheels leave the ground and got a new mortgage to worry about...but that bike is now seriously trying to shut down what little sense and reasoning I have. Well played Scott, well played.
  • 6 0
 Buy what makes you happy mate
  • 3 0
 same here. a bit older and lift assisted resorts are 3 hr drive away, but it's been a while since i've been remotely excited about a newly released dh bike.
  • 19 11
 99.9% that all these people on here talking about how they like aluminum better and carbon is dead aren’t going to buy an aluminum one either. Instead they will offer me 12 cents on the dollar for my lightly used carbon bike in the buy/sell and then insult me when I tell them they’re out of their mind.
  • 15 2
 They are completely out of their mind for wanting to buy a stranger's carbon bike, that loses its warranty when transferred to them. Perhaps that's why they are low balling you. You should only ever buy a friend's carbon bike so you can get them to warranty it for you. I have never known anyone with a carbon DH sled who has not needed to warranty their bike at some point.
  • 16 4
 Whatever dude. You don't even have one for sale and you have never had a single thing posted for sale!
  • 1 0
 @Rubberelli are just plebes is all. I get it
  • 2 0
 Just bought an aluminum one...
  • 3 0
 Okay, 13 cents it is! You drive a hard bargain.
  • 6 0
 This post has far too much going on! As you can see, no one can get past the beautiful bikes in aluminum. Then there is the lower prices. Then there is the ABSOLUTELY INSANE launch video! That edit is VOY material and no one is talking about it in the comments. That has to be the best bike park video in a couple of years. Fantastic!
  • 4 0
 Nico could make hitting a double on a cardboard box look incredible, but hats off to the production crew on this video they absolutely nailed all the shots, pacing, and editing... Rare to see something this frenetic be such a pleasure to watch!
  • 7 0
 All I see in the comments is people fighting over Alu vs. Carbon. Did anyone even watch the video?! That was one of the sickest edits I have seen all year!! Someone call a doctor cause that was sick!
  • 2 0
 so much steeze...
  • 4 0
 Oh man that raw one looks sick. 40 Performance Elite, Shimano brakes, I want it. I gladly welcome this trend of more raw alu frames, keep them coming.
  • 1 1
 base model kid bike Shimano brakes?
  • 2 0
 @bizutch: I'd still take them over SRAM tho tbh

Just my personal preference, not something that is applicable to everyone.
  • 3 1
 Genuinely think this is the way forward for the bike industry, quality aluminium frames with good spec at reasonable prices. Carbon has had its day, unless you are the type that likes to stare at their bike more than ride it, or buys enve wheels, carbon can get f*cked.
  • 4 9
flag pargolf8 (Aug 8, 2019 at 10:01) (Below Threshold)
 You’re just poor. Sack up hater
  • 2 0
 There is definitely a market for the alloy frame with good spec, but to say carbon has had its day is a bit unrealistic. It is literally stronger and lighter. It just comes with a heftier price.
  • 3 0
 Bad enough trying to explain to the wife. I need a new trail bike , how the hell am I gonna explain a new DH bike as well. BAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH. My favourite and worst time of the year. New bike model releases LOL.
  • 8 1
 Save the money and buy the wife a new set of trousers.
  • 3 0
 @tobiusmaximum: now that would be a risky purchase
  • 2 0
 Looks like anything BUT a Gambler to me! Lost some of it's "Pizzazz" shall I(we) say?!!

Edit: Forgot to give props on the release vid / large DH style gaps vid! What I mean is, at true speed! Quick hits and sends, cause they are... A vid of that sheeit the way its should be produced, imho Razz
  • 2 0
 It would be easy to think that we have pretty much arrived at ‘the way a dh bike should be designed’ (albeit small to medium nuances). But then I look at the Commencal dh.. and smile.
  • 4 0
 I'm so glad the Commencal exists and is good enough to show that Horst link isn't the only way to build a DH bike.

Don't get me wrong, a lot of these sleds look great but when you see so many of them, especially across multiple brands, they start losing that exotic race-machine feel that I love so much. Things like the Supreme still give me the 8-year old's "WOW THAT'S COOL" feeling
  • 1 0
 @Preachey: I was the same, until I spent a season on the Suprem V4, deeply regretted my Suprem V3 and any previous bike and then got rid of it as quickly as I could. Sure it's a magic carpet going straight in the rough but don't you dare riding twisty tech tracks. A big let down which had me change of brand.
  • 5 0
 Frame only option I hope !!!
  • 2 1
 These two nutters shredding down the track is what came into my mind when it´s a talk about Gambler. I really do like how the bike looks now even I also think it looks like Operator and I am not onto 29ers (Bless the 27,5 option), but honestly I miss the previous generation which in my eyes looks really aggressive
  • 3 0
 To quote Emmett Brown... "Great Scott! When this thing gets up to 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious s***."
  • 3 0
 Right, its a good start when the front rotor on the Alloy 920 is back to front ????‍♂️
Kudos to whoever did that.
  • 1 0
 I wanna know if that front mud guard is a one piece syncros jobby? Would be good for winter over the smaller rear only one they currently do.

looks like a nice bike tho, especially in raw!
  • 4 1
 If they doesn't have a Twinloc I'm not interested..

(said no one in the world)
  • 2 0
 Who builds these things? That upper crown across all builds is horrific. Don’t they know they have Fairclough riding for them?
  • 1 1
 The previous Gambler was really well thought out and there is no way this design is more rigid than it, on the opposite... The suspension kynematics also seemed optimal, or perfectly optimizable at least... I like the several adjustability features, but they are independent from this "just another session-like" design which is rather disappointing. But then again, I'm not in the market for this bike... Maybe I would for a used 2018 Gambler, if it allowed 29" wheels. That's the bike I would have liked to see...
  • 2 0
 With any significant redesign, it should greatly drop the resale value of the old models, which should benefit you.
  • 1 0
 @Rubberelli: It would, were it not for the wheel size detail...
  • 1 0
 I also must correct my main comment. The 2018 Gambler did allow excessive chain growth... The main pivot was placed a little higher than it should have been. Don't know why they did that, the same design could have been done with a lower pivot...
  • 1 0
 @DavidGuerra: ever heard of axle path ? That might be your answer.
  • 1 0
 @Balgaroth: You mean to have a slightly more vertical axle path? Maybe that was it. It really doesn't seem worth it doing it for that reason though. Not at the cost of chain growth. The pivot could be placed more forward for that, but that would mean a whole different design.
  • 2 0
 @DavidGuerra: it sounds like youre in the market for a standard single pivot like last years gt
  • 1 0
 @DavidGuerra: Mullet that shit out and you're good!
  • 1 0
 @cuban-b: I could try it out but the progressivity does not seem very optimized or optimizable in these simpler forms of single pivot bikes, such as that GT or the Oranges. Linkage actuated single pivot bikes sound better, like Ancilottis, Evils and the now former Gambler.
  • 1 0
 @DavidGuerra: agreed. Something like the current gen Kona Process and the bikes you mentioned sound like a godam delight.
  • 1 0
 @cuban-b: I like the Process, though those other bikes have a sturdier rear triangle, which in the Process isn't a triangle but just the chainstays (the part that is directly attached to the main pivot). That said, I had a Jekyll of the previous generation that was a single pivot of that type and it was pretty sturdy.
  • 1 0
 With carbon fiber plenty of marketing jargon is used to describe the construction process and materials. With this aluminum frame forged is something I can understand and I can see welds . The quality is obvious.
  • 2 0
 Also, really gonna need that Fox 40 fender. So sick of zip ties and paint getting rubbed off.
  • 1 0
 Well done Scott. Whoever leading the design helm is doing well, providing affordable rigs. How's the warranty department going now?
  • 1 0
 hopefully good. they are gonna need it if they are putting on front rotors backwards
  • 2 1
 No DH bike yet but I love what Guerilla Gravity has achieved with their awesome carbon making process. Made in 'Merica! F YEAH!
  • 3 0
 Nice to see carbon getting the knocks it deserves.
  • 3 0
 Bring back the Voltage. Or make it the perfectly named freeride e bike.
  • 1 0
 What is Scott’s current e-bike?
  • 2 0
 @SCOTT-Sports Thank you for finally making a RAW aluminum frame available to buy! It looks even sicker in the flesh!!!
  • 1 0
 I knew we wouldn't be seeing Vink and Vinny on carbon, thank you Scott for making another nice looking aluminum frame for some of my favorite riders to watch
  • 1 0
 This is the one I've been waiting for 2 years now. New alu gambler. Stoked.
  • 2 0
 Simon Says: "It's yes from me."
  • 1 0
 "Avoid putting loads on the top or downtubes"
Might as well get rid of them then.
  • 3 0
 Looks like a Hyper!
  • 2 0
 HYPER HYPER
  • 1 0
 Hyper’s don’t exist in the wild.
  • 1 0
 I'm sure it's an optical illusion but that first pic looks like it has 29 rear and 27.5 front
  • 1 0
 Does scott use an other chainstay for the 930?
Hubs are 157mm for the 910 and 920 but for the 930 you get 150mm hub.
  • 1 0
 But all frames say 157mm. Either a typo or spacers are used on the 150mm hub.
  • 1 0
 @ka-brap: well i do know that they have used a cheaper chainstay on the old 26inch voltage for there lowest model.
  • 1 0
 Seat Stays/Chain Stays are all the same!
  • 2 0
 Finally scott has their color schemes figured out...
  • 2 0
 Alloy frame only, please...
  • 2 0
 Looks killer Scott. nice colors but raw for the win.
  • 2 0
 Hope Scott releases a Genius in raw aluminum
  • 1 0
 YESSSSSSSSSS!
  • 2 0
 Ooh, baby, I like it raw Yeah baby, I like it raw
  • 1 0
 If i make my radon swoop raw and put a scott decal on it i have the new gabler!
  • 1 0
 This looks like every other bike now, Gambler was Gambler because it looked and was unique.
  • 1 0
 The raw alu is in on the bulky side with >17kg..still a v good looking frame.
  • 3 2
 What are the geo figures with 27.5" wheels? Not everyone wants a 29"!
  • 5 2
 Are you 29phobic?
  • 3 1
 The BB height is a bit lower.
  • 5 0
 On the geo chart, the numbers that refer the "700" models are for 27.5"
Happy shredding!
  • 2 2
 @tobiusmaximum: or just not a trend following fanboi trying to shave .8 secs off my cat 2 race time...
  • 1 0
 @pargolf8: it was a joke. I know that’s a bit 1998.. making jokes. But I thought hey what the hell.
  • 1 0
 @SCOTT-Sports: Thanks for the info! Are the 700 models still using the Fox 40 for 29 inch wheels? That would be best compatibility.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a raww aluminium bike.
  • 2 0
 Hardly "affordable"!
  • 1 0
 Alu frame, take my money now!!!
  • 1 0
 920 for $3000 CDN?! A man can dream
  • 1 0
 that raw aluminum looks sick!
  • 1 0
 They screwed the rotation of front rotor on RAW version...
  • 1 0
 that is clean. very nice!
  • 1 0
 What about the front disc on the seventh picture ?
  • 1 0
 just to mention it looks like SESSION... Wink
  • 1 0
 I see nothing new!
  • 1 0
 Slow clap
  • 1 0
 Raw is gold
  • 1 0
 I think it's aluminium
  • 1 0
 KONA
  • 1 0
 So is it "mulletable"?
  • 1 1
 Session??
  • 2 2
 "Affordable" LOL
  • 1 3
 Sweet colours Scott. They look familiar ;-)
  • 1 3
 I would choose Commencal over Scott anytime.
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