Ask Pinkbike: Helmet Fit, Tire Picks & Teaching Teens

Sep 24, 2018 at 9:30
by Pinkbike Staff  
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Here at Pinkbike we get inundated with all kinds of questions, ranging from the basic "Can I have stickers" to more in-depth, soul-searching types of queries like if you should pop the question or what to name your first child. Ask Pinkbike is an occasional column where we'll be hand-picking and answering questions that have been keeping readers up at night, although we'll likely steer clear of those last two and keep it more tech oriented.




My Helmet Sits Too Low On My Head

Question: Dannyfag asks in the All-Mountain/Cross-Country Forum: I have ridden for years and owned a variety of XC lids that I have worn with glasses, and had no issues. The problem is that my last lid, a Troy Lee A1, fitted well, but as soon as I hit rough descents, the thing started pushing my glasses down my nose - to the point I can`t see the trail and have to stop. I guess I don`t have a tall enough head, or it could be my biggish nose is making my glasses sit high.

Anyway, after a recent crash, I had to replace it, went for the Giro Chronicle and had the same problem. I let a friend try my lid on and it just sits higher on his forehead, so he didn't have this issue. Does anyone know a modern day lid that sits slightly higher at the front?



bigquotesAlmost all new mountain bike helmets have extended protection at the rear and a slightly lower brow to meet protection goals. Together, those features can and do create fit-up issues for many riders. I also wear glasses and have a big nose, and the shape of the back of my skull tends to push helmets forward. That said, I have successfully used both of the helmets you mentioned. I am interested to know if you have overlooked the angular adjustment feature at the back of their head bands? I use the highest position, which makes plenty of room for my glasses and keeps the helmet's brow well clear of my field of vision.

The angular adjustment of the Troy Lee Design A-series helmets is hidden underneath the padding and MIPS layer. The head band has snap fittings that can be set into a row of holes molded into the back of the shell. Giro's Chronicle has a similar feature.
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TLD A-series helmet s angular headband adjustment
The angular adjustment feature of Troy Lee Designs' A-series helmets is hidden behind the padding and MIPS layer at the rear of the shell.
TLD A-series helmet s angular headband adjustment
The headband adjustment straps snap firmly into holes in molded plastic inserts.




Teaching Teens DH

Question: @CONomad asks in the Fitness, Training, and Health Forum: So I have been asked by my new in-laws to take my cousin's two boys to the bike park and help them through their first day of lift riding. I consider myself to be a pretty competent rider but have never coached anyone from the start before and was wondering if anyone has any gems of experience they'd like to share? Particularly concerning two young teenagers?

bigquotesFirst off, that's awesome. Although I rode bikes quite a bit as a kid, it wasn't until a guy named Andy DeVault took me out riding to some new to me spots (this was prior me being able to drive) and taught me some basics when I was about that age when mountain biking really clicked for me. Years later, I still look up to Andy and could never thank him enough for just taking me mountain biking and encouraging me as a kid.

If I can recall anything from that far back, the overarching theme would surely be to just get out and have a good time. Don't worry too much about the specifics or "coaching" them technically. Just go mountain biking with them, make sure they don't get in too far over their heads, and always have a positive attitude. These kids will hopefully have a great time and ask you to take them out again.

You probably know the basics and if they need help or are struggling with something then it will be pretty obvious how you can help. Have fun!
Daniel Sapp

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Just get out and have fun...riding, racing, whatever. The training and coaching will come later and you never know where it may take those kids. Bonus points if anyone in the comments knows who's on this podium.





29" Tires for Rocky DH?

Question: @tall-martin asks in the Downhill Forum: I'm off to ride the Fort William World Cup DH track for a couple of days next week, I'm excited! It's my first time on an uplift day with my 29" Geometron G13 and I'm going to get some tougher tires than the DHR2 that are on there now.

What Maxxis tires would you get? There are 2.5" and 2.3", Double Down and DH casing, plus Shorty, DHF and DHR2 tread patterns to chose from. Should I try 2.5" DHF DH casing on the front? Plus a 2.3 downhill on the rear? These tires will do the odd uplift day at Antur Stiniog and Fort William, plus Morzine or Whistler next year, so there is no need for them to be pedaled up anything.


bigquotesFirst things first, if you are going to Fort William to lap out the downhill track, especially on a G13 'trail' bike, there is only one casing option, and that is the full DH casing, no questions asked, front and rear. Double Down is tough, but the relentless rocks at the Fort will not be kind to anything.

Secondly, you should opt for the bigger 2.5" size front and rear. You say they won't be pedaled much, so maximum size and cushioning is required, and adding some kind of tire insert would not be a bad idea, either.

The intermediate/wet conditions that the Shorty is designed for is out for the Fort. There are very short sections of muddy or dirt surfaces, but the majority of the track is gravel, rock, and hardpack. When the gravel is wet it grips like hell even with dry condition tires. So, the choice is between the DHF and DHR II. Their braking characteristics define them. The Fort is relatively flat, so braking is less of a priority than rolling speed, so double DHF is always a winner there, but a DHR II rear isn't a bad pick for your plan to go abroad next year to help you slow down on steeper slopes.

Whistler is usually fine on dry condition tires, thanks to its famous hero dirt when it rains. Heading to Morzine and the Portes Du Soleil for a week offers you a near 50/50 chance of deep mud and torrential rain - or bone dry hardpack and dust for a week. More braking performance is needed there on the steeper gradients. Overall, a DHF/DHR II combo will be your best bet, but maybe keep a few pennies in reserve to splash out on a pair of Shortys or Assegais if conditions start to go bad in the Alps. You should also choose the softest MaxxGrip compound for the best grip on the Scottish rocks, but after a few days there and at Antur they might be ready for the bin instead of another riding trip.
Paul Aston

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At Fort William, any combo of Maxxis DH-casing Minion's will serve you well...
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...but heading to the Alps, you might want something more aggressive in wet conditions, like an Assegai or Shorty.


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  • 371 1
 Teaching teens? How do you teach anything to someone who already knows everything?
  • 17 1
 underrated comment
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 Ha!!!
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 This is a dad comment, this man has seen some things.
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flag WAKIdesigns (Oct 2, 2018 at 14:15) (Below Threshold)
 Students are an upgrade though, they not only know everything, they are also morally superior. In case of males... what a waste of testosterone... could go to the gym, deadlift 500 within a year but prefers to share articles about tranz rights and dying Polar Bears as a form of pussy talk to ugly Wendy.
  • 6 0
 Great... heard my dad's voice saying that in my head as I read it, thanks. lol
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 When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much he had learned in seven years."--Mark Twain
  • 8 1
 Break the phone and tell them they have to work for a new one.
  • 5 0
 Testify! However, gravity is one of the best teachers.
  • 7 2
 When I see dads out riding with their young 10 year old rippers, I tell them to pay very close attention so they don't miss the day that father and son/daughter are the same speed and skill. Because every day after that, they are going to kick your ass.
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flag jaame (Oct 2, 2018 at 22:26) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns: who could down vote this? Some of your comments are utter shite but this one is spot on!
  • 2 0
 completely the opposite here. I used to take a lad to the hills before he had his driving licence an. The increase in my speed an courage from trying to keep up with HIM! That was a huge spike in my progression
  • 9 2
 @WAKIdesigns: your adolescence being one of the greatest wastes of testosterone, no doubt
  • 4 2
 @me2menow: I agree with you. I wrote this comment looking down on my former self. I wasted my childhood and my adolescence. If I only heard about Mark Rippetoe when I was 18... but well at that time I used internet to play Starcraft and downloading pics of Pamela Anderson and online fitness variety show didn't exist. It is hard to forgive myself and think this little boy didn't know any better, but I am trying.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: give over! You re cracking me up!
  • 8 1
 @jaame: did you also use altavista or yahoo to type in “pussycat dolls nude pictures”, "do girls masturbate, how often and how do they do it", "starcraft best strategy", "how to rocket jump", "obligatory literature summaries" etc.?
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 @WAKIdesigns: I think Nicole from pussycat dolls was pretty much the hottest woman ever to have lived when she won American popstars or whatever it was. That TV show before PCD. Unfortunately they didn't come out until I was 24 so it was a few years too late for those dogpile and ask Jeeves searches. I would just make up URLs like sex.com on the youth club computer.
Funny to look back though. Teenage years were definitely wasted on me as a teenager. If I could go back in time with the game I learned by the time I was 30. f*ck a duck, there would have been a lot more skeet skeet skeet, teenage orgies, home made porn, and cocaine.
  • 1 0
 lol You made my day
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 @jaame: yes, all this sht with trying to get into university and aiming at some good girl, instead of taking free and willing. Getting wasted on mushrooms and moonshine in the country side, getting into a club there, inevitably getting into a fight with a local hillbilly alpha only to end up sucking doormans dick. Those could have been the times...
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 @WAKIdesigns: Wow, them's some strong mushrooms. This may explain why I can't watch Deliverance without suffering flashbacks.
  • 2 0
 I saw a shirt at a beach-front store that said teenagers hurry up and move out now while you still know everything.
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 @WAKIdesigns: add some cyanide to that Kool-Aid your drinking would you please
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 @properp: you had too much battery acid
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 I would love to see an article about tires in general; a guide to pairings for different seasons (wet, dry) at different mindsets (xc, downcountry, party-time) and different riding styles (precision lines vs trucking).

For instance, it's getting wet on the east coast here in the USA, so I'm looking for some fun tires that grip in the wet, but I can still find a good balance of climbing and descending.
  • 10 0
 party season, party time, party lines. party tires.
  • 7 1
 It's been wet all summer lol
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 If its soft enough and not many rock slabs. Magic Mary. It needs something to bite into, otherwise it squirms. A better rolling version of it but with a bit less bite Bontrager SE4. Otherwise Minions DHF in Maxxgrip.
  • 2 0
 @High-Life you need to widen your website portfolio hahahaha. very nice articles on tire shoot-out available
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 @WAKIdesigns: this DHF in EXO Maxxgrip 2.5 is proper shit...as a front tire..
  • 4 2
 Mary is just too much of a fat heifer. She sticks like a clingy girl you're trying to shake, she goes down well but she gets you puffed out a lot quicker than a minion.
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 After being in Fort William over the summer and having the DH as my local I can safely say just go with 2 super gravity Marys. Both have the old softer compound and the wear on the rear isnt aweful. Braking edges are a bit chewed but nothing worse than what a DHRII or DHF would be after a number of weekends uplift.

I would also recommend putting the cost up for some cushcore. Especially if you want to do laps without worrying about your rims. Mine easily save my rims from destruction about 4-5 times (F+R) so in my eyes already paid for themselves.
It does change how the bike reacts so keep that in mind on the first couple runs and suspension setting
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 @WAKIdesigns: Continental Black Chili Baron has great grip on wet surfaces. Maxxis has a better carcass, but Conti has the superior rubber for wet trails.
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 @Mac1987: I would believe you if you told me that Conti changed their compounds since 2014, because prior to that Black Chilli was worse than Maxxis 60a. Nothing will erase the memory of hitting a wet slightly tilted slab at speed on fresh contis and loosing both wheels at the same time, despite riding it with no issue on all sorts of tyres before... then I was swearing like a pig everytime my rear tyre spun out on a wet root on a climb. And please remember that I don't have that issue with Minion SS which is possibly worst rear tyre one could make for wet conditions.
  • 1 0
 Dirt Mag has a lot more product-y type stuff. Pinkbike seems to be more towards the social side of biking.
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 @ehvahn: Enduro mtb has a lot of group tests, too
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 @WAKIdesigns: @WAKIdesigns: There have always been tons of different compounds using Black Chili additive. There's a world of difference between the stickiest Black Chili DH tyres and the fast Black Chili XC tyres, and there always has been.
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 @threehats: maybe. I had MKings 2 Protection. They were utter shyte for the money.
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 @WAKIdesigns: The old Rubber Queens were great. The Trail Kings that replaced them were pretty good but not as good. The old Baron had one of the best wet conditions compounds ever, which managed to wear better and roll faster than any other rubber that manages to find grip on wet roots. Casings rather hit and miss sadly. I tried some MK2 Protection 2.4 in the Mallorcan dust and limestone and they weren't very confidence inspiring compared to the Trail Kings I had on my bike back home.
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 @WAKIdesigns: be aware that 'Black Chilli' compound differs per tire. On the Baron Projekts I love it. On some XC tires it's definitely less grippy.
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 @Mac1987: ok I trust you. But on XC tyres it is not even remotely close to “not grippy”. It is Kenda Chilli
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 Good to see Dannyfag is asking the right questions.
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 Just wear goggles.
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 "You should also choose the softest MaxxGrip compound for the best grip on the Scottish rocks, but after a few days there and at Antur they might be ready for the bin instead of another riding trip."

Do people really only ride tires for this short of a time? I like new tires as much as the next guy but at $60-$80 a pop, if I replaced them after every trip I'd be spending hundreds if not thousands on tires per year. I ride Maxxis Minion DHF front and Aggressor rear, and I just replaced my DHF in front after around 1000 miles, and the Aggressor is about done after only 300-400 and I consider that a disappointment. Sure the tires are pretty beat by the time they're replaced, but man suggesting binning them after a few days sounds crazy.
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flag bartb (Oct 2, 2018 at 12:57) (Below Threshold)
 Schwalbe Magic Mary's...What an absolute turd. They basically chip apart as you roll downwards. Maxxis Minion's will be my next set.
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 @bartb: I've personally had great luck with my MM's on my enduro rig ... going on 8 mos of regular use and not a single ripped off block. The ones I have are the latest Addix soft (orange) compound with the super gravity casing. Grip is excellent and no complaints on their durability. YMMV
  • 4 1
 Also FYI, I ride both in EXO casing and the Maxx Terra compound. I find the Maxx Terra to be plenty grippy and I'll make a note not to buy Maxx Grip if you're suggesting they only last 10 rides.
  • 14 2
 If you are riding proper DH descents (not regular trail riding) and get 8-12 laps in a day you will be pushing more than 20,000ft (6000m) of descending with very hard and extended braking. For a three day weekend in the alps it would not be unreasonable to get 70,000ft+ of vertical. Your tires' edges will no longer be sharp enough to maintain the grip they are meant to. However the terrain you are riding has a huge effect on wear, somewhere like Bootleg Canyon is going to go through tires like soft butter while the "loamy" trails of BC and Washington won't do much at all.
70,000ft+ of Morzine descending is going to wear your tires a lot more than a couple months of normal trail riding.
  • 3 1
 @bartb: maybe older schwalbe, definitely not the most recent ones. I don't like maxxis tire because their rubber literally crumbles in a weird way after few days of riding. On the contrary the addix ultrasoft magic marys lust much longer and wear out like normal.
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 The latest Magic Marys are quite durable compared to the older Trailstar/Vertstar versions.
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 @adamdigby: This is a good point, but even with rough riding I would expect to get more than a weekend or 2 out of them. I live in Utah and regularly ride Park City, St George, and Moab which are not friendly places to tires (particularly Moab) and quite rocky, and I still get a hell of a lot longer out of them with multiple shuttle and lift serviced days.
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 Super tacky/Maxx Grip... whatever the term is now are amazing but yeah that soft rubber doesn’t last. For me they’re only justified for race runs. Practice on something else and feel like a hero when it counts... one weekend and they’re done. For fast people one run and done!
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 @tgent: MaxxGrip makes a big difference if you are riding roots/rocks especially in the steep (less chance of front wheel sliding out or losing the back end and going sideways over roots). For hardpack/dirt then MaxxTerra is plenty.

Also as others are pointing out, doing a week of bike park in Whistler is over 100,000 vert feet descending pretty easily. That could be equivalent to 50-100 trail rides depending how much you climb. It's also over much rougher terrain (hardpack, rocks, brake bumps) at higher speeds than trail riding... that's why Whistler eats tires so fast.

For people hating on Schwalbe, the new Addix compound tires are a massive improvement in durability and life than the old Vertstar stuff. Give them a shot, can be found cheap online.
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 @tgent: I think Paul Aston's advice is good, but more applicable to pro's and people with a lot of money. Softer tires get ripped apart by DH'ing and are losing grip (esp cornering grip) after a few day's use. Also faster rolling isn't applicable to most weekend warriors doing chair-lift dh'ing. Most will be trailing brakes down a lot of the track anyway cos realistically most of us aren't fit enough, strong enough or skilfull enough to go full clanker down a worldcup DH track. So I'd go toughest rubber, and toughest casing on a tire that prioritises braking traction over rolling speed.
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 Maybe it's because I am a socal rider through and through, but I've never really cared so much about grip as there isn't much out there to begin with...mostly just drift predictability....which I've always loved about the minion dhf. Sure...run new rubber for racing or an epic trip...but otherwise, as long as i'm not completely surfing, it's all good. Not to mention, if you aren't trying to shave seconds, drifty tires can be pretty fun, and can make your cornering feel next level when you put a fresh pair on.
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 After being in Fort William over the summer and having the DH as my local I can safely say just go with 2 super gravity Marys. Both have the old softer compound and the wear on the rear isnt aweful. Braking edges are a bit chewed but nothing worse than what a DHRII or DHF would be after a number of weekends uplift.

I would also recommend putting the cost up for some cushcore. Especially if you want to do laps without worrying about your rims. Mine easily save my rims from destruction about 4-5 times (F+R) so in my eyes already paid for themselves.
It does change how the bike reacts so keep that in mind on the first couple runs and suspension setting
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 @adamdigby: that is so true and pretty much determines which tire you need for which terrain and for how long. During my 6 day shuttle assisted Finale trip tires were worn as much as during 6 month in my normal local riding on forest trails
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 @gramboh: thank you, you get it. Maxxgrip is great for allroundness it takes Minions into wet zone and makes them comfy in there. Same experience here about durability of latest Addix tyres But! Their soft compunds wear out fast on the rear. I went from fresh to quite worn out rockrazor SG within a month of varied riding. I rode almost everyday including lifts.

What is missing in comments here is that Magic Mary may offer similar levels of grip to Minion DHF but the latter is more predictable and likes to be pushed. If you are a person who corners actively, loading the wheels, likes to pop into corners, then Minion is for you. If you are more into railing then Mary will suit you more since it doesn’t like too much input. Knobs are too long and too soft. Mary is essentially a tyre for softer ground. A bit more allround shorty, whereas Minion likes hardpack more
  • 9 0
 Just as a follow up to this teaching teens dh question for the future's sake.

So we went to the dh park in winterberg Germany and had a great time overall. They were very out of their element to start but winterberg has a great little pump track, drop and jump training area that we lapped around on all morning to get them comfortable. They were both regular xc and road riders from the northern flat lands, so with basic bike handling skills I was able to focus on the basics of body position, feet position and where to have your head and line of sight at what point in time on the trails.

The older 14 year old kid was actually much easier as he was kind of a slow goer which meant he listened to advise and really took things step by step, by the end of the day he was railing berms on the flow trails and with confidence and picking his way down the moderate tach trails, even bounced back from his one crash and got right back to it, I think he has become a full convert from the ways of the lycra!

The younger 12 year old kid it turns out is a competitive trampoliner? So yeah he just kept going balls to the wall and had a serious perfectionist streak so when he ate it, which was often, he got super angry and frustrated and kept beating himself up mentally making it that much harder to focus. On the flip side that trampoline training and no fear seems to have made him into the most natural jumper I've ever seen. After he got fed up with the trails he spent the afternoon in the jump park and was clearing 2 meter doubles by the end of the day.

All in all though it was blast and I'd happily do it again.
  • 7 1
 Teaching Tips IME every new rider (and many supposedly seasoned riders) need.

1) Keep your head up and look further down the trail
2) Keep your feet flat at 3 and 9 o'clock when you are not pedaling
3) Keep your arms and knees bent and relax

Specific to this situation where you are going to a bike park. Before even considering going to the park find out if they can do something simply like ride up a curb. If not, don't bother with the park. They need to putz around on their bikes at home before they consider the bike park.
  • 8 1
 Teens can take slams at that age... let em go send er
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 yee yee
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 The DH casing on Maxxis tires are as close to indestructible as you will find, but make sure you're always rolling downhill, otherwise it's like pedaling in sludge.
  • 4 0
 That “feature” in the helmets should be explained in the sheets that comes with them ,cause it might seem a little thing but it can change a helmet
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 Can you explain it a bit? I'm still a little lost after reading unless it just helps to move it more less over your forehead.
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 @Svinyard: it basically controls the length the back frame extends down the back of your head. It effectively changes the angle that the helmet sits on your head.

As far as I know most high-end helmets have some form of it (Smith forefront, Bell super dh, Kali interceptor).
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 Teaching teens is hard because we all know that in order to learn how "not to crash", you unfortunately have to pay your dues and crash a bit...it's one of those... "Hey listen, mtn biking isn't playing video games on the couch...there might/probably will be blood"
(also side note...is that hawknest resort in Seven Devils in that pic? had no idea about races there)
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 I tried a Leatt DBX 2.0 and it sat really high up on my forehead. Pinkbike's reviews of the 2.0 and 3.0 both mention them staying out of the way of glasses:
www.pinkbike.com/news/leatt-dbx-20-trail-helmet-review.html
www.pinkbike.com/news/leatt-dbx-30-all-mountain-helmet-review-2017.html
  • 1 0
 What about tire choice for Vancouver island winter riding. Is exo fine or would thicker casings be better at a place like prevost. Currently running dhf 2.5wt front and dhr 2.3 rear.
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 We have all types of terrains here on the island so it all depends on what areas you'll be frequenting the most. If Prevost I would 100% recommend dh casing tires or DD with max grip. In the winter IMO maxxgrip is always the go to, won't wear as fast in the winter as it would in drier seasons and grips the wet rocks and roots so much better.
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 @gnarnaimo: you've got the best handle I've seen in a while. Lol
(Only downside is I can no longer refer to Nanaimo as Gnarnaimo in case I suggest to my buddies that we ride there)
  • 2 0
 teaching teens --- first... bust their phone, suspend service second... throw the bike at them, if they don't duck...well, throw in the towel and try some other sport
  • 1 0
 Not the best or safest helmet sugestion, but if you can get a second padding liner, then stack them, it will lift you helmet above your glasses. Did this with a A1 and spare liner to get buy for a while.
  • 1 0
 I've never found a perfect helmet fit for my odd shaped, pea sized head so I take the best deal I can and live with whatever hotspot my glasses end up giving me.
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 For the guy who was asked to teach his cousins kids how to ride: DON'T DO IT! Learn to say no to your in-laws. You are not a kids bike camp. If they want to learn how to ride there are camps, instructors, books, instructional videos etc. Or at the very least they can buy, rent or borrow a bike and figure it out. Riding is your hobby, your source of enjoyment. If they get hurt or god forbid don't have fun it will be on you. If they do have fun you set the precedent that you will obey every order that your inlaws give you. This is from my experience leading teenagers on bike rides at a camp. It is not to be confused with actually riding for fun.
  • 1 0
 I don’t know who is on the podium, but it looks like a park I’ve been to in Vermont. Am I right?
  • 1 0
 Get the 2.4 dhr2 it's the narrowest dh maxxis tire you can get. The 29er geometron has poor clearance
  • 2 0
 Dirty Bird!
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 You want an helmet that fist well?
Get a Kask, Rudy Project, Met, or Specialized (in order of quality x cost).
  • 1 0
 better than fist poorly, I suppose. On a serious note, I had the same issue with my Troy Lee helmet, no matter how I adjusted it. Just picked up a Bontrager Rally, and there is tons of room there.
  • 1 0
 @savagelake: Giro Hex gets my vote
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 What about 29+ tires?
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