WynTV: Where Did All the Rocks Go? - Leogang DH World Cup

Jun 8, 2017 at 14:15
by Pinkbike Staff  

If you thought Fort William had some track complaints, wait till you see this one. Leogang looks like it's one giant BMX track and riders are livid (or at least pretending to be...). Of course our man on the ground, Wyn Masters, is on the case and getting you all the chat from Austria.


124 Comments

  • + 297
 I want to see that run Phil
  • + 18
 Seconded
  • + 90
 Move over #26aintdead crowd, the real old-school is back #HardTailAintDead ... #TomacLegend #BackInMyDay #RoseTintedOakleys #WhatTheHellAreHashTags
  • + 13
 @ROOTminus1: It worked for Tomas Slavik at Crankworx Rotorua. 2nd in the Air DH.
  • + 7
 Judging from Remy Morton's insta account. He'd be a fair shout to do that finish line jump on a hardtail
  • - 3
 Well not really a hardtail , but an enduro bike would be more usefull than a DH bike ( especially for the last jump )
  • + 37
 This tracks are becoming a joke. We are going back to the early days of DH , racing on fire roads.
  • + 5
 @enrico650: mammoth!
  • + 1
 @dbc3: And land it fakie!
  • + 8
 Its on. Atwill on the Uplift with the number plate on his HT (insta story)!
  • + 0
 @enrico650: But we need big wheels for that!
Going back to the Klunker Age...
  • + 0
 @kornbrot: Where on insta?
  • + 1
 @Trailstunter: on his instagram story ca. 5 hours ago.
  • + 0
 @kornbrot: Thanks mate!
  • + 2
 Danny Hart's IG run today shows that the course has its charms. Hardtail race run would be Ruff AF.
  • + 3
 @endlessblockades: i just saw a POV of Troy Brosnon following Brendog and I didn't see a single rock ... it's quite sad. I loved the brutal root section in Fort Bill
  • + 2
 @leopaul: that's fine but most "protected" World Cup keyboard riders would still have tightly clenched sphincters riding this course at 2/3 the speed of a practice run.
  • + 0
 @billywayne: "Embarrassing." Haha! Yeah, Phil!
  • + 1
 @enrico650: only on those days we had 2 inches of travel......
  • + 179
 The dog at the end cocking his leg over the UCI banner... Winning!
  • + 9
 says it all... epic ! Batman
  • + 14
 Dude that dog owns that mountain
  • + 2
 best part!
  • + 7
 Nah, the track pissed him off first.
  • + 1
 Why cant they have a round at Lac Blanc, or any other track in the Alps ?1 www.pinkbike.com/video/472481
  • + 1
 @usmbc-co-uk: Lac Blanc is easily the best bikepark in a 200mile radius and with only an hour drive from my home it's my absolute favorite in the non-alpine world. But having ridden both, I feel like overall Leogang is a much tougher track. It is a lot longer and at times it's ridiculously steep and also really rough. It might not seem like it on camera and maybe they cleaned it up too well for this rounds WC. But did you actually ride it yourself? Because I can tell you it's not remotely as easy and smooth as one might think.
  • + 72
 "Well let's all complain a bit more. That'll sort it out." WynTV hilarious as always.
  • + 54
 Kerr's got his eye on that crank
  • + 17
 He'll sell it to pay off his debt.
  • + 8
 *Answered my own question but can't delete post*
  • + 7
 @Joebohobo: Whats the story behind all these bernard kerr jokes? im missing something
  • + 2
 @cameronumf: Bernard appeared on a segment of some sort of a UK TV show www.my5.tv/cant-pay-well-take-it-away/season-5/episode-10
  • + 1
 @Skinnyman: No way! I love that show... will have to check it out later!
  • + 2
 Can someone supply a link to the show (that works) been dying to see it. love ya Bernard lol
  • + 1
 @JC9won4:
Just type in 'Can't pay well take it away season 5 episode 10'. Maybe you can't watch it in the US?
  • + 50
 I really hope that wyn keeps up the whole kerr/thief/criminal thing the whole season. so great haaa
  • + 40
 "We've got a white.... VERY white Caucasian male. Dressed in black.

Wynning.
  • + 0
 @BenjaMama: I cried from laughter XD
  • + 34
 I think this is one of the main reasons why Enduro is getting more and more people into it, DH is loosing the main attraction that "into the woods" felling that have you wanting to get on your bike the next time off. Jumps are cool, berms are cool but for me mountain biking is more than that.
  • + 35
 HAHAHAHA calling out Leogang's bullshit course since day 1.
  • + 3
 This Wyn TV feels like Deja Vu from last year's!
  • + 25
 I love World Cup DH races. Been hooked on it since the late 90's. That said, the constant whining and bitching about 'tracks too hard' or 'tracks to easy' or 'tracks too fast' or 'tracks too slow' or 'that wheel size is.......' or ' this track should change this. Oh it changes, lets still bitch' by everyone from the racers to the commentators her is such a F'ing drag. Holy sh*t is sounds like a bunch of teenagers bitching and moaning constantly. Embarrassment honestly
  • + 2
 agreed, if anything its a good thing as it highlights different strengths in each race, racers have to be good at everything and one guy isn't going to win every race cause he has a 4km man made rock garden in his backyard to practice on.
  • + 34
 Clearly you've never raced downhill. Whining and complaining is the heart and soul of downhill racing after all
  • + 2
 @LavenderGooms: That's just it. I have and still do. Race NORBA semi pro a few years. I still ride DH here in Colorado. Race a few races here and there. The bitching has exploded lately. I'm no UCI fan trust me. But damn!!! Haha
  • + 5
 @bman33: to quote the great Team Robot (RIP): "It's the way the world is supposed to work. Everyone being pissed off and complaining feels a lot like downhill racing, which is the spiritual center of my bike world."
  • + 2
 Do the Utah Gravity Series and race on the tracks that are 50% fire road and tell me you dont want to ride a more challenging (fun) track.
  • + 1
 @wiscobiker: Never said that I don't want a challenge. I am commenting‚Äč on the enormous amount of bitching the last few months/races. They bitch about wheel size, this track is too hard, this track is too easy, etc etc.
  • + 4
 If you were kick-biking through the woods section last week you've lost the right to complain about the difficulty of a track.
  • + 2
 @LavenderGooms: "Any" Racing actually Smile
  • + 1
 The one constant with hosting a DH, or an Enduro for that matter, is listening to people bitch about the track. Too flat, too steep, too smooth, too rough, there is a climb in it...Hearing a guy finish a 12 minute Enduro stage and bitch (that was a f-ing cross country course!) about the climbing when there was one 15 second climb and another that might go 20 sort of cured me of trying to make folks happy.

Or maybe it didn't, given that I'll be out this weekend trying to add a couple of minutes to one of the stages...

Give me a good, epic, rough and technical XC race like Downieville and beers with my friends after. Any day of the week. So much less posing, so much less whining.
  • + 4
 I, too, really enjoy watching the riding, especially recently.
The complaining about the woods section at Ft. William was, to a degree, justified, as it seems most of the courses these days are speedways with a little bit of "find the best line and straight line it" tech thrown in. So from the perspective of having ridden that kind and only that kind of track in the last while, I can understand. But from one weekend to the next, saying a course is too hard and then bitching that another one is too easy is simply whiny bitch bullsh*t.
I can appreciate the fact that consistency is lacking throughout the circuit but it seems the fact that they're travelling the world and not shuttling to the next trail on the hill is lost on (some more than others) quite a few of the competitors. It really is laughable that so many people can find so much to complain about whilst living a dream.
  • + 0
 The only thing worse than hearing racers bitch and complain about the tracks is hearing non-racers bitch and complain about the racers bitching and complaining Wink
  • + 26
 Take a look at La Thuile stages from EWS last year if you wan't to see some trie DH track's . #samhillisright
  • + 1
 ^^^^^ Thi$$$
  • + 19
 Phil looking extra greasy these days...love it
  • + 8
 the mullet is actually for aerodynamics.
  • + 1
 @jaha222: Its basically a super hero's cape
  • + 18
 Didn't Nico Vouilloz pull out a hard tail at a US race one year when it got too tame
  • + 4
 Yeah I remember that.
  • + 21
 He won Kaprun (Austria,see the pattern?) WC aboard his GT Zaskar in 1996. Last world cup won on a hardtail.
  • + 2
 @nozes: Rob Warner won Kaprun in 96.

It's claimed around the interwebs that Nico rode a Zaskar at the 1995 Worlds in Kirchzarten, but the tape shows otherwise. Both he and King are on an LTS: www.youtube.com/watch?v=311SnkHzu9Y
  • + 1
 @jason745: Damn! Thanks for the correction. After a bit of research I've found that in fact he was 2nd to Gachet in Kaprun...in 94.
  • + 18
 Please explain the Bernard Kerr inside jokes? What'd I miss??
  • + 28
 There's a TV show in Britain called, 'Can't pay we'll take it away', and it's about people who haven't payed off debts and so these guys lawfully come and take away their possessions to make up for said debt. Bernard Kerr was on it. Something to do with a rental van and to cut a long story short he had to pay up ¬£3k.
If you wanna watch it it's season 5 episode 10
  • + 2
 He was basically on a show in the UK called If you can't pay, we'll take it away. Baylifts come around and ask for the money you owe to someone or a company, or they'll remove items to cover the costs.
  • + 3
 It's about 35 minutes in definitely worth the watch
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flag kerberos (Jun 8, 2017 at 23:29) (Below Threshold)
 Could you all please just shut up about this irrelevant bit in a man's life?! Kerr is an amazing racer and bike handler, enough said.
  • + 8
 @kerberos: That's not how banter (Frotzelei) works.
  • + 3
 @kerberos: If you watch it then you'll see Bernie comes across very well which is why they can joke about it... despite hanging out in his pants of course Wink Oh and leaving the back door open while he sleeps- schoolboy error! It's not like he's a master criminal of multiple identities scamming grannies out of their winter heating money, chill bru Smile
  • + 14
 Now i wanna see someone try a tail whip with a dual crown fork
  • + 2
 Gwin will be on a 29er Jeffsy with 34's so will whip it no problem.
  • + 13
 Last dog move sums up all
  • + 10
 Let Samuel Hill design the DH tracks.
  • + 9
 That dog just owned the finish line...freestyle dog wins!
  • + 6
 Remember when enduro was lame. Haha. Those courses are way more gnarly. There were option lines in Whistler last year I didn't even think about. Pffft. I may not even set an alarm for this.
  • + 7
 Freestyle Dog smashing it.
  • + 3
 Maybe Leogang wants to showcase this track as a marketing ploy to let all those XC cross-overs and beginner wanna-be's and one timers with the family say, "Hey, that's the WC Pro track? I can ride that. I think I'll give Dhing a shot, it looks easy enough for me." That way they get the crowds and unfortunately, then ski resorts keep catering to them with paved roads left and right.
  • + 6
 Let's make more tracks suitable to 29er, so all you suckers need to buy new bikes. Lol
  • + 6
 Looks like WynTv is going to be the highlight of the weekend
  • + 3
 Maybe Eric Barone is the new World Cup DH track designer? We should just get rid of every turn and race downhill on a straight line and go 200 km/h.
  • + 1
 Barone would be the World Cup champion in a few years. On a 32in, negative riser bar bike.
  • + 1
 @onetrykid: And here's a stop for the 2018 circuit: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cew5NJ6Lt0c
  • + 5
 Despite the constant negative track press covfefe
  • + 5
 "Let's all complain a bit more. That'll sort it out."
  • + 2
 B*tch and moan. Moan and b*tch. Chrissakes. I'd also like to feel what's it like to whine about something when I'm being paid to travel the world to ride mountain bikes and have fun all the time.
  • + 1
 Travel the world riding the newest bikes wearing fresh gear. And complain about the track they have to race. I'd gladly take their place with all smiles. End of the weekend the fastest time wins not matter the track.
  • + 4
 Rumour has it Gwin is going to ride his BMX bike.
  • + 1
 First time I've ever been disappointed by the performance of a Saint crank. Bring Back the banana bol, or at least last weeks grip!
  • + 3
 Even the Dog hates the course!!!
  • + 1
 So under the Austrian trail grading system is most of that a blue run with the tree sections being red? Good to see the best riders in the world been challenged.
  • + 1
 Looks like the course builders are relying on the riders to "build" the track with their bikes during practice and qualy's . Cheapskates!
  • + 1
 What is the host's name? That dude always does an ace job with these interviews. Can't wait til he brings out the full handlebar mic.
  • + 11
 I think he's Eddie Master's brother.
  • + 2
 Hes called Wyn
  • + 2
 Bring back the nana Wyn...the volume on the crank is broken
  • + 2
 minou ( Huges' dog) peeing on the finish line says it all. Mint.
  • + 3
 Rockgate
  • + 2
 Thanks Wyn.Great video Dog finish u:hhhh
  • + 1
 Phil is going to do a run on his hardtail!
  • + 1
 Is REPACK back from the dead???
  • + 1
 I only want to see that tailwhip in the last jump????????
  • + 1
 Vindicated! Thank you Matt Walker Big Grin
  • + 1
 Matt Walker trying a little hard.
  • + 1
 fully shit track! germans are red bull slaves
  • + 0
 If your not winning your whining.
  • + 1
 Wynning
  • + 15
 You're*


You're*

If you'r gonna use it twice, use it right.
  • - 1
 Shouldnt this guy worry anout the race ? I think he's racing world cup is he not ?
  • + 0
 Wyn's flossin the 5.10 MacAskill's - they're comfy.
  • + 1
 CX bike ftw!
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