An Exclusive First Look at Marzocchi's Brand New DH Fork and Shock - Taipei Show

Mar 21, 2013
by Mike Levy  

Marzocchi 380 C2R2 Titanium

Although most wouldn't have guessed it, 2014 will mark a decade of the 888 in Marzocchi's lineup. The Italian's long-travel DH fork has evolved throughout the years, with a multitude of different variations to meet performance and price needs, but it was time for Marzocchi to start from scratch with a new design, which is exactly what they have done with the 380 C2R2 Titanium. Yes, it may look similar to its predecessor from a distance, yet a closer look will reveal an entirely new beast - about the only thing it has in common with the previous 888 is it being right-side-up. The 200mm travel fork utilizes a brand new 'Dynamic Bleed Cartridge', much lighter crowns, a fresh lower leg design that loses the 'M' arch yet gains rigidity, and added external damper adjustments in the form of both separate low and high-speed compression and rebound dials. It is also compatible with both 26'' and 650B wheel sizes.

380 C2R2 Titanium Details

• Intended use: DH racing
• Travel: 200mm
• Titanium coil spring
• 38mm nickel treated stanchions
• Tapered or straight steerer
• New 'Dynamic Bleed Cartridge'
• Adjustments: separate low and high-speed compression, low and high-speed rebound
• Titanium clamp bolts stock
• Compatible with 650B wheels
• Production fork weight: 6.28lb
• Availability: September, 2013
• MSRP: TBA

Dynamic Bleed Cartridge
Previous 888s employed Marzocchi's longstanding open bath approach to damper design, with a sealed cartridge (more recent 888 cartridges could be tuned, though) that
fed on the same oil that acted as lubrication within the fork. This layout made for exceptionally smooth performance due to there being enough oil to slosh about and lube the fork's bushings, although it couldn't meet how a closed or semi-closed damper performs when talking consistency because of that very same sloshing effect. Marzocchi says that their new Dynamic Bleed Cartridge is hybrid of the three versions cited above, although it certainly requires some internal trickery to make that happen. The DBC cartridge uses a "one-way seal" that allows oil to enter as required, but the clever bit is a spring-loaded piston that acts a compensator (very similar to how an internal floating piston functions in a shock's piggyback) that keeps the cartridge full of oil without it hydraulically locking: the piston moves up to make room as the damper cartridge fills with oil, and also down in its travel to take up the lost displacement as oil rushes out. While it both sounds and is more complicated than Marzocchi's older open bath damper, the DBC system borrows technology that the Italian company is familiar with from using it within their motocross forks.

The DBC damper may be new to Marzocchi's lineup, but they are not straying away from their open approach to giving consumers the ability to remove and tune vital damper components. Looking for a change that can't be done via the external low and high-speed compression dials? The entire compression assembly can be removed from the top of the fork to allow the garage tuners and pro mechanics to make alterations to the mid-speed compression circuit, and shim stack assemblies that will make the job easier will likely be available from Marzocchi.

Marzocchi 308 C2R2 Titan fork

Damper Adjustments
While Marzocchi has never been a stranger to a good amount of adjustments on their high-end downhill forks, the new 380 C2R2 Titanium brings further external tuning options into the picture with the addition of a high-speed rebound dial. Compression adjustments can be made via concentric dials atop the right fork leg: the inner dial controls low-speed settings and the outer high-speed, although it should be noted that the cosmetic appearance of both may change by the time the fork reaches production this coming September. The same goes for both the low and high-speed rebound knobs at the opposite end of the fork. The fork shown here is still in the prototype stage but the dials had very defined detent to each turn.

Marzocchi 308 C2R2 Titan fork

New Axle Design
A revised axle is found at the bottom of the 380 C2R2 Titanium, with replaceable aluminum barrel inserts acting as home for the four titanium pinch bolts, and a keyed shape to the left side that nests into lowers. This latter change means that only one hex key is required to install and remove the axle, unlike the older design that demanded one for each side. The axle itself also now features an internal taper to it, making it thin in the middle where material isn't needed and helping to shave 30 grams compared to last year's design.

Marzocchi 308 C2R2 Titan fork


New Crowns and Lowers
Rather than use the same crowns as on their 888 forks (the 38mm stanchions are the same size after all), Marzocchi has gone ahead with a new design that looks slimmer, weighs less, and according to Marzocchi, increases rigidity. Post-forging machining is used to create a hollow lower crown - 888 lower crowns are solid - that adds up to 40 grams of weight loss, and Marzocchi says that the clamping bolts have now been moved to the side of the crowns to improve turning
clearance and better distribute stress. Many of Marzocchi's forks have long used an arch with an 'M' shape to them that, while aesthetically pleasing to some, never really played a functional role. The big M is no longer, though, with a slimmer and much more practical shape to the arch. The new lowers contribute to another 100 grams of weight loss over the 888 RC3 EVO V.2 Titanium, adding up to a 170 gram difference between the crowns and lowers.


Marzocchi Moto shock

Moto C2R Shock
While the ROCO will still be in the lineup for 2014 in the shape of three air models and a TST R version, Marzocchi's new Moto C2R shock will be taking center stage as their top tier DH shock. The Moto C2R follows the same principle as the new 380 C2R2 Titanium fork shown above, with Marzocchi aiming for it to be one of the lightest long-stroke coil-sprung shocks on the market. To this end, the shock body itself has been machined down to only what is needed, while the 14mm shaft (the ROCO uses a 12mm shaft) and shock eyelet have actually been manufactured as a single aluminum unit.

Moto C2R Shock Details

• Intended use: downhill
• Adjustments: separate low and high-speed compression, low-speed rebound
• Access to the high-speed rebound shim stack for tuning
• One-piece shaft and eyelet assembly
• Weight: 369 grams (9.5'' x 3'', w/o spring or hardware)
• Availability: TBA
• MSRP: TBA
Marzocchi Moto shock

Damper Adjustments
Separate adjustment dials for low and high-speed compression tuning are located on the piggyback bridge, with both closely resembling the dials found on the 380 C2R2 Titanium fork in shape and color in an effort to reduce confusion. The red dial at the other end of the shock controls low-speed rebound and, unlike the ROCO, it doesn't need to be removed in order to slide the shock's coil spring off.


www.marzocchi.com


249 Comments

  • 208 5
 Been awhile since I've seen some stuff from 'zocchi. Looks like they're coming back into the game strong!
  • 54 216
flag Camoguy1 (Mar 21, 2013 at 20:50) (Below Threshold)
 I just can't firgure why they still want to use an allen key to remove the axle... Everyone else seems to have a tool-less design these days!
  • 56 7
 Wow they look incredibly good.
  • 32 1
 Its all about the stiffness.
  • 26 68
flag dirtmonkey1 (Mar 21, 2013 at 20:55) (Below Threshold)
 Those axle clamps are good until you over tighten them
  • 48 3
 tool-less axles are a gimmick for DH. so much stiffness comes from the axle purchase that having a nice rigid and tight connection is best.
  • 22 0
 Not many full dh forks are tool less. The boxxer has a specific dh allen key axle.
  • 73 0
 Same with the Fox 40. It's not like i'm worried about quickly changing a flat in the middle of a DH race...
  • 13 3
 @dirtmonkey; Tight is tight to tight is broke.
  • 18 3
 if you don't have the tools to take off an axle you don't have the tools to change a flat, if you need it tool less to put in a car then you should get a bike rack and save your bike in the long run, so why do people want tool less again?
  • 8 5
 QR20 was out years ago and I'm glad it never stayed about!
  • 3 0
 I want it...
  • 12 0
 god damn marzo, i don't know if i want to buy this fork, but i sure as hell want that shock...
  • 17 68
flag Pabail (Mar 22, 2013 at 1:13) (Below Threshold)
 How the fuck can you want one and not the other...it's like a fuck without jizzin...
  • 11 4
 The shock is actually so nice! They're finally stepping up their game! Now to release that Kashima look alike coating Wink
  • 10 3
 The big question for me is, Are they still going to be good for freeriding? The only reason I've run 888's since I started riding 6 years ago was because they are the only ones that were up to the task of big mountain (for me, anyways. 40's aren't too far off) and had the best feel for my riding style. This new fork seems to be going the way of pure DH and lightness...Hopefully it still works as a burly freeride fork.
  • 2 1
 still coil so i don't see why not, maybe the 888 might stay in the lineup as well
  • 7 0
 why do we have shock weight in grams and fork weight in pounds? Look like good stuff though, more attention to detail than zocchi in previous years
  • 4 0
 or just bring a bag with a couple tools with u for a day of riding and leave the bag at the bottom somewere... i still load my aurum with a fox 40 on it into the back seat of a toyota camry... all u need is a multy tool and boom, its done in a matter of seconds..
  • 3 0
 Shock weight in lbs or grams, it's not as important to me what unit of measure they use when the stated weight is "w/o spring or hardware". can we not just weigh the shock as is?
  • 6 0
 @suicidedownhiller- I have the same concerns, I really hope they don't discontinue the open-bath 888. I love mine, as well my 66 RC3 Evo Ti, the feel of these forks is unrivaled. For a racer the fork is not ideal, i understand that. I race on mine and lately have been wanting something lighter and less sensitive for carrying speed. But for just shredding DH and enjoying it Marzo's forks rule the roost. I hope they realize that.
  • 7 6
 The shock sure is pretty, The forks look ok, crowns appear cheap. What I really would like is for Marzocchi to start making pretty forks like they did in the 90's. And Ill tell you what... although I think the chrome stanchions look sharp- make those baby's gold and you will double your sales Marzocchi.
  • 16 3
 No way, black is the new gold. Marzocchi should go back to their black stanchions.
  • 7 0
 I still have an 01 Shiver that I put on my 2013 Kona Entourage to rock this year in the NW Cup! Got to keep it real when M was good lol
  • 4 5
 @xwason "Its all about the stiffness." That's what she said.
  • 4 0
 Scandium didn't you ever see the works forks with gold stanchions !? HOT!!
  • 4 1
 I do agree, they look great. Rock Shox seem to really be pushing black coated stanchions though, so I won't be surprised if that's the new fashion. That's all I meant. Wink
  • 2 0
 The Rock Shox "black box" stanchions are sweet. They have this like blue tinge to them that just has sex appeal- I can't explain it.... but I want one. Why do they do this to us? ? Smile
  • 2 0
 Exactly black lowers and stanchions = Steve Smith like = win Smile
  • 1 3
 Still got those disgusting chrome stanchions !
  • 4 10
flag Edward47 (Mar 22, 2013 at 11:27) (Below Threshold)
 ehh nothing special looking to me. i will admit it is a step up for zocchi.... but that dont take much. 40s and world cups are tough to beat... and best breakthrough would have to go to dvo. theres a couple other noteable companies to who are getting in the game. i think this was a weak display of trying to regain dominance in the dh fork industry.
  • 8 1
 Really Edward? .... Have you ridden this new Zoke? ... for that matter have you ridden all the forks you list... Im certain we can cross the Emerald off that list.... Im not ripping you man but "weak display" more like "weak argument" ...
  • 2 1
 P.S. Edward... your Tr450 is looking good. Well done.
  • 3 0
 I believe the blue tinge was the oil on the stanchion... not a good sign if you want to do more than race a fork
  • 2 0
 and the marz is essentially staying open bath
  • 1 0
 eeehhhh ... no not really open bath. But again, nobody has ridden the fork so it's too early for judgement on performance. I just hope they don't lose sight of why some people (myself included) really love the 888. For all I know it's better in every way shape and form. At least I can hope... And every picture I have seen of black stanchioned Rock Shox forks have that hue to them. It's more than black paint on there and it's likely very expensive which is why we have not seen it on production models. I doubt it's oil but I could be wrong.
  • 1 0
 I got the fork from 2010 and all I can say is that is still perfect, it works as new. I really want the new shock and that fork Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @finnrambo: It's not really open bath, but a semi-sealed cartridge. The dynamic bleed cartridge is already in use with the current forks with the CR damper. I have played around with them, and they feel great. They are essentially an inverted RC3 EVO cartridge. Plus it keeps the majority of the oil up in the stanchion and out of the sliders, greatly reducing unsprung weight.

@DARKSTAR63: If they could make the shiny gold Ti Nitride coating more durable, that would be an awesome way to go. It looks sick, but I've seen a few forks up close after a season of racing, and the coating is almost entirely worn off. And that is why it's not in production...
  • 1 0
 Interesting ... That's too bad it does look sick
  • 3 0
 Where is the "Shut up and take my money" comment? Did I miss it?
  • 1 0
 Totally agree
  • 1 6
flag Edward47 (Mar 22, 2013 at 18:29) (Below Threshold)
 darkstar. ive ridden. 40s, world cups, zocchi . dorados. ive been around like a blonde junkie in amsterdam.... zocchi is just not in the game...they are just not in the game. i hope they do blow out some sick shit... but wont happen
  • 2 0
 Y'all are correct on the tooled axle. Late night stupidity on my part!
  • 2 0
 @ dirtmonkey1 "Those axle clamps are good until you over tighten them"
The axle clamp on the dropouts looks a lot stronger than fox 40's, look at how much metal is between the retaining barrel/nut and the compression slot, that where the 40's crack. you might think it's dumb asses over tightening them, but when over 90% of the failures in the lowers is in the same place for 5 model years you've got to say Fox should of redesigned their axle clamp area sooner.
  • 1 0
 @silverback1 thanks for clarifying. I had an old fox 36 and someone had over tightened them and they broke. These do look a lot stronger though.
  • 1 0
 Yeah, you go black you never go back...
  • 68 3
 Is it just me or are those some of the coolest looking adjustment knobs?
  • 5 0
 not just you,they are the coolest Big Grin
  • 11 2
 not only the knobs.... all this including what's said to be inside is simply POOORN!!! this news entry should be marked NSFW!
  • 11 2
 ^Dafuq?
  • 4 0
 For sure I luuurrrve the look of that shock all machined down and the finishing/detail on the forks looks amazing.

You can call it shallow I don't care Smile
  • 10 0
 Friggin' StarWars knobs.
  • 4 0
 they look really nice, but they will turn out to feal like finger slicers in the cold weather.
  • 2 1
 the red knob on the bottom doesn't have a protective cap?
  • 35 0
 Don't forget the single crown fr forks, Marzocchi!!
  • 11 0
 ^This.
  • 3 0
 I concur.
  • 2 0
 Word
  • 3 0
 Amen!
  • 1 0
 the 170mm 55?? thats the long travel sc fork now that they have decided no more 66 Frown
  • 5 0
 Yes on a new 55 - and stay with the TITANIUM COIL!
  • 1 0
 and a comeback of the 66 rc3 tita please - thanks. Razz
  • 18 0
 finally... finally sombody had the idea to put thos holes in the sides of the threaded preload adjuster ring on the rear shock...
  • 1 0
 Yep ... prob for a spanner on tight frames or really heavy spring rates
  • 2 0
 Aaaaand here's where I feel dumb. What's the advantage of those holes? I don't know much about shocks.
  • 2 0
 @trozei - The holes are for a spanner tool in case the preload ring get stiff to turn.
  • 3 0
 yea im stoked about those holes. i hope other companies *cough*fox*cough* are paying attention
  • 2 1
 I've never had an issue turning these on any shock... you know if you turn the spring as well it is 10x easier?
  • 1 0
 my bos s*toy had these holes as well Wink
you could even fix the preloader with a little screw in one of these holes!
  • 2 0
 The Vivid has also those holes for a while!
  • 1 0
 my vivid had them on too, really handy just stick a 2.5mm allen key in them and it makes preload adjustment a doddle, one of the best things about that otherwise flawed shock !!
  • 1 0
 psyickphuk - it's actually a godsend on certain frames. On my Flatline I can't really get my hand in there around the collar. Without the holes (RS Vivid) I would have to take the damn shock out of the frame to turn the collar with any level of ease.
  • 17 1
 Rock Shox and Fox prepare because this is superb Marzocchi is bak ohhh yeahhh Smile
  • 12 0
 Yeah..thinking the same THis looks foxier than Fox Italians job
  • 5 1
 rs is already prepared, have you seen that new low end fork? Wink
  • 6 0
 yeah the ones with 30mm stanctions??? i may as well glue some flexi-rulers on the front of my bike, id get better steering stifness!!
  • 4 2
 there is a reason they're low end, thing is its probably more reliable than a boxxer
  • 14 1
 hey look, a titanium atom! it has 22 electrons and 22 protons. 2 electrons in it's first circle,8 in it's second, 10 in it's third and 2 in its outer most! BOOM science!
  • 3 0
 I love science.
  • 10 0
 Sounds like X fusion and marz' are gonna make room in the Dual crown industry
  • 1 0
 marzocchi has always been there
  • 8 1
 Looking good M, Suspension wars heating up, this can only be good for us consumers, those that dont stack up with gimmicks will fall pretty quickly, maybe some real performance is coming our way finally and not just for the 3% pros only!
  • 14 15
 Rock Shock Sucks Beer
  • 6 1
 they do...ust give some more neg props if i care
  • 7 1
 The only, admittedly useless, thing I don't like is the name. Why not 999? 380 seems to be a step back, from a naming perspective. Other than that, I'm stoked. Hope to see Marz bring this tech down to the 55. And bring back the 66!
  • 9 0
 For what it's worth, I was told that '380' comes from the fork's 38mm tubes and as an "evolution'' of the 888 name.
  • 2 1
 Thanks for the reply Mike, that makes sense. Did they give any indication of the RC3 EVO damper's future? Will the dynamic bleed cartridge be the top of the line damper? Any sneak peeks on single crown stuff? I'm so excited... Haha.
  • 3 0
 the dynamic bleed cartridge is a development of the rc3 cartridge in the lower weight format of the cr cartridge that was brought in a year ago think of it as the r2c2 semi sealed!! and youre not too far from the money with it!!

also its ironic that we all want to see the 66 in the lineup and were dissapointed when zocchi dropped it but we clearly didnt want it badly enough because we didn't buy enough of them for them to keep making them Frown sad day.............
  • 2 0
 I suppose the 380 name is a lot more legit than calling it a "38". That's too close to "40", and would suggest it's lower in the lineup than a 55. The triple digit theme sorta goes with the triple-clamp configuration, too.
  • 1 0
 But will the new 55 be the 350? haha...
  • 1 0
 @miklevy: For what it's worth, if you're still reading these comments, a German website is reporting on the name as well. They are claiming the evolution of the name as triple eight ( 888 ) is represented as three eights, or "38". The 888 has been around for ten years now, 38 * 10 = 380. Kind of hokey, but makes sense.
  • 7 0
 Very good! Now, maybe they hire a real designer, so those graphics won't look like I hand-cut them myself when I was drunk. The direction seems good. Keep it up, Marzocchi. This is what your customers want, not excuses.
  • 6 0
 at last Marz have a line up to tempt me away from fox.
if Marz price the fork and shock less than fox and rs, I think a lot more riders will start using them, plus with being able to tune it yourself, maybe less in servicing costs?
  • 5 0
 Sad to see zocchi stray away from open-bath technology. It has always been their advantage. With zocchis you could just change the wiper seals and the oil (5min operation), and then you were good to go again.
Whereas cartridge units from fox might be more "consistent" (never experienced the claimed inconsistency of zocchi though), seals and O-rings will eventually wear out (1-3 years) and oil will bypass the shim stack or needle damping ports, and you`re left with a big mess trying to figure where in the damper the leak is.
Most consumers will probably just sell their fox-stuff on PB rather than thinking about trying to fix it when the damper starts behaving odd..

The simplicity and long term reliability of the open bath damper (speaking 5+ years) will be compromised if the new dynamic bleed cartridge requires perfect sealing for decent function
  • 7 0
 ITS STILL OPEN BATH!!! all the new tech does is reduce the amount of oil needed sloshing around in the lower legs, it still draws oil from the lowers and the lubrication oil is the same as the damping fluid, it just allows them to reduce the weight a little, but yes it does make the servicing take a bit longer. this new damper should be no more dependent on perfect sealing than marzocchi's past open bath forks so no worries there.
  • 1 0
 My understanding is that the CR damper, at least, is not open bath but separate (semi-bath?). There's extra oil in the lowers for lubrication, but the damping is handled entirely by its own oil. There's no reason the wipers, external oil seals, nor damper seals, should wear out at a faster rate vs. full open bath, and you get a better controlled, more consistent damper with less contamination.
  • 6 1
 Awwww... Marzo just made me sad. Between this and the interview with Andrea Pierantoni I now know there definitely won't be a 2013, 2014 or even 2015 Shiver. Cry

Oh well, DVO here I come... Emerald me!!
  • 3 0
 Emerald in all black is sooooo good lookin'
  • 7 0
 "Don't Call it a comeback!"
  • 7 0
 "I been here for years"
  • 1 0
 "over the competition, I'm towering"
  • 1 0
 "Wreckin shop, when I drop these lyrics that'll make you call the cops"
  • 3 1
 Since day one in mountain biking for me Marzocchi has been the best. I like Fox too (though never owned one) but Marzocchi just does exactly what I need them to do. Hell, pretty sure I've had two blown forks and they both worked well enough for me not to notice. Thanks for continuing to make me smile Marzocchi!

Can't wait to get my hands on that rear shock either.,, my Roco TSTR has no lockout knob ahaha.
  • 2 0
 I would be happier if they keep the true open bath lubrication becouse these type of forks dosen't need to service them so often and i have never met a rider who liked to service anyway (it is an important question for me at least), i hope marzocchi will keep the rc3 evo v2 fork as a choice - i understand it is a dh racing fork and it is okey to design a hybrid cartridge just to save weight on the oil quantity too, but i want a fit and forget fork which will never brake on me (i mean issues with the seals, cartridge or just crack - like the other companies have at least one of these) the rc3 evo v2 is in this type. This forks looks good, and i would be happy if i can try it out of course, it looks really promiseing. It is a little strange for me the bolts are in the other way than it is used to be, i don't see any upgrade in it, but maybe there will be some. It is really good Marzocchi uses shimstack in the rebound and compression too, you can use a wider range of your adjustment without the knocking thing in the rebound (if it is set in to slower rebound in medium speed rockgardens which also speed sensitive), you can also manage to customize the damping caracteristics for your own like. As for the shock there were a long long time marzocchi should have make another shock than the roco as i didn't like it by myself - it was hard to find seals, spring for it as always. I can only hope this will change soon, the shock looks pretty good too, im in wonder of the damping caracteristics of these two.
  • 5 0
 Hope they start to revamp the DJ line. Air DJ1??
  • 3 0
 The air dirt jump forks is the 4x
  • 1 0
 Kinda. I have an 08 and its ok. The 2012 has a 15mm TA. Not good for Dj IMO. And they don't seem to have one for this year, 2013.
  • 3 1
 I've jumped on a 15mm TA before. The majority of jumpers seem to be lighter guys (at least that's the general consensus around here), so it really doesn't seem like such a big deal to lose 5mm in diameter and 10mm in length. If a fork is going to fail from jumping, it's probably going to fail around the crown and stanchions before the axle goes.
  • 3 0
 I use my hardtail for everything. So an Air DJ1 with 20mm would be great, Marzocchi.
  • 2 1
 it'd also be wonderful if their new dj line up lost some weight compared to the older models!
  • 4 0
 I remain loyal!!! Just ordered my 2013 888evo, but will be getting these as well!!
  • 2 0
 That shock looks like a CCDB! i kid, i actually dig both of those, they look stout and smooth and nice. I will definitely check into that fork if it is in the right price range!
  • 1 0
 The question is will the shock fit a demo? Fingers crossed!
  • 8 14
flag freestyIAM (Mar 21, 2013 at 22:52) (Below Threshold)
 hmmm.... I think that shock looks like a Session.
  • 4 0
 because everything does.......
  • 1 0
 Stoked for marz! I'd still like to see a new air shock and inverted air fork but while we're at it I'm good with the new shock, I always hated my roco, and the new adjustments on the new fork are pretty sweet to, definitely could use separate high/low compression on my 888
  • 1 0
 yeah I felt the same with my 888, no separate high and low speed adjusters on a top end fork isn't good. I'd find it difficult to part with my money on marzocchi suspension again unless I knew for certain that I wouldn't have any issues with the nickel coating. My 888s went wrong and I thought hopefully it's just me but then a friend had both his 888s and 44s forks coatings start flaking off too. All of those were 2012 forks with the nickel coating. Hopefully they've finally got everything spot on.
  • 2 0
 I don't see why they can't use the gold coating or black coating? The stock 888 with my commencal v3 had this weird rockshox-ish coating which wasn't bad
  • 1 0
 Yeah, I saw the commencals had that, made me consider asking marzocchi if they'd sort me out with those stanchions. I think the nickel coating is fine if you aren't riding in harsh conditions. After a few rides in muddy conditions the nickel coating started to turn black and cloudy, then within weeks of that the coating started to bubble and flake.
  • 1 0
 just ask them for the black, they should have plenty left around and they never had issues with those
  • 2 0
 Got the forks back about two weeks ago with new nickel stanchions but I'd already got dorados since the wait was so long for warranty repair.
  • 1 0
 how are they? I'm either going for dvo or those
  • 1 0
 They're the best fork I've ever owned or tried. Every click of compression or rebound makes a noticeable difference, it's smooth through the travel even when it's pumped up quite hard. As for flex it's not an issue like some might say, it doesn't feel any flexier than my 888. Another thing is it comes with a comprehensive tuning sheet which is pretty much bang on with a soft, medium and firm air pressure setting for each weight range, then there is compression and rebound settings for different terrains and riding types such as freeride and rougher dh riding. Basically you can't go wrong with the fork, best purchase I've made I would say.
  • 2 1
 Did marzocchi move production back in-house to Italy or are they still relying on Taiwan factories ? I ask because Spinner names their forks with numbers for the stanchion size also (the Cargo's which have 34mm stanchions are called Cargo 340s) and Spinner used to make Rockshox's forks....
  • 4 0
 Marzocchi fork and shock manufacturing are now being handled by Hodaka. Hodaka has done the Rocos since their introduction, and SR Suntour used to do their forks.
  • 2 1
 No they still priduce in taiwan. But they moved to another manufacturer that produces a lot of high end moto and formula shock equipment.
  • 3 0
 read the other article?
  • 2 1
 Nice to see they're doing work with the new DH designs! Now they need to do some heavy R&D on the mid-long travel single crowns. If they get their sh*t straight in that regard, they'll do some serious damage to the market (considering anything like that since '08 was a dead fish...)
  • 10 0
 Man the RC3 Ti 55 has been one of the best forks around since 2010!
  • 1 0
 True, but you have to admit, the 08/09 line up was what killed Marzocchi's market share, since most forks from then needed to be rebuilt right out of the box, so to speak
  • 1 0
 I'll totally admit that 08/09 were bad years. But they've been on the up since 2010, and I really think the shake up in the USA offices has been good for lighting a fire under their bums to start innovating again.
  • 2 0
 Word. Looking forward to the future.
  • 2 0
 The 888 R2CX was one of the best DH forks I've owned, even though it was heavy as fuck. Then Marzocchi seemed to go to shit for a while. It's be awesome to see them back at the top of a world cup podium.
  • 2 1
 nickel treated?

Is this the first time we are seeing this on a production model, I rembered fixed used a nickel plates or coated stanchion back in 07-08 for the WC riders, they never put it into production Because it wa so soft and the wear rate was too excessive for it to be used in the public.

Curious to know how this will stand up.
  • 1 0
 Marz has done nickel for some time now. i had my last 888 for 3 years and the nickel was flawless. and thats with riding 100+ days a year.
  • 1 0
 Ok that's good to know. I haven't ridden a MAZ fork since there 07 66ata. I'm interested these though everyone has been talking up the current MAZ forks, sounds like they have some good stuff coming.
  • 1 0
 new stuff looks good marzocchi. still cant figure out why knobs are still on the bottom of the fork... they get ripped off easily sometimes.. Maybe something like a flip over cover or some more protection would do them justice
  • 1 0
 Just picked one of these up, I'll have it next week, along with a new V10c frame to build up. Hope I don't get early adopter blues, but if their using the damper system on motos, it should be durable. I skipped the '08-'09 new factory issues, so Marzocchi has been solid for me since '99 Smile ...except for the adjuster knob falling off my 66 lower.
  • 1 0
 www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-LoS8MZil8
I think this video explains it better for me,
I think this kit is going to be awesome however I do agree with they should of used last years gold stanchions or kept the black not a fan of this silver look, plus I know this sounds daft but the forks don't really match the rear shock without the gold stanchions. sorry coil looks amazing.
  • 3 0
 Now bikes with this fork and this shock can ride at AMA Supercross :3 look at that shock its so diferent the lines Big Grin
  • 1 1
 so basically its a mash up between a rc3, a cr and a boxxer team/wc damper and the chassis is a "best of" from the 35mm/38mm 888's that we've had.. combined with adding a tapered steerer and some very pretty, but maybe awkward to use adjustment dails... i cant decide weather i love it or not.... still its nice to see them redesigning again, its been business as usual for the last few years without any really major design changes. the rear shock looks pretty neat too, we just need to see if its performance can match Smile

Also no volume adjuster on the forks ;(
  • 8 8
 its a SAD day, adopting the dull and non-intrusive (and cheap looking) roxshox styling and dropping the the infamous 'M' brace to reinforce that fact.

shame, as their aesthetics were one of the best around, they've brought the shock out of the dark ages, but as Marz and DVO are from the same factory or SR or whoever, no surprise it looks like the Jade shock, so no points for innovation.
  • 3 0
 DVO- manufactured by SR Suntour. Marzocchi- shocks and now forks manufactured by Hodaka.
  • 3 0
 1st: So much WANT!

2nd: Seems like I have to get myself a 888 with that M-arch before they're off the racks.
  • 1 1
 Well based on visuals the theory alone, i have to say welcome back Marzo. this looks to be a good start. Lets just hope the performance is there, the forks looking very clean (although im not sure on the nickel coating, looks too much like a domain DC). as long as the classic reliability is there i think theyre on to a winner.

130/140/150 mm single crown coil/air sprung (negative coil) single crown next please Big Grin
  • 3 0
 Bring back the shiver forks!!!!! New titanium carbon shiver forks please and thank you.
  • 1 0
 Marzocchi definitely hit right on the money with these new products. I hope I can afford to ever ride one of these two! Hopefully the rear shock isn't more than a Cane Creek DB.
  • 1 0
 So, we have ten years of positive legacy with our top line DH fork, it's one of the only forks that escaped reliability issues in our 'bad' years, I know what we should do, RENAME IT!

Wtf Marz?
  • 3 0
 Simple looks can be so pretty. Field testing will answer for performance
  • 1 0
 Wow, those look Amazing! I hope they dont change the aesthetics of that shock. It looks like l might have some Fox suspension up for sale pretty soon.
  • 1 0
 hm, kinda nice... i hope they redo the graphics on everything... they are great performers, but always looked kinda cheap Big Grin ... especially the roco shocks.
  • 2 0
 And you dont have to be in the top 3% blah blah blah.. somebody had to say it!!
  • 3 0
 Looks like a trek sess..... Oh sorry I thought we were playing the pinkbike repeater lol
  • 1 0
 ok so, is there going to be a non ti version or is 888 still going to kick around for that ? im not weight weenie, and i don have the money for ti !
  • 2 0
 But... but... the M in the arch... I thought they said it increased rigidity 15% when they started doing it?!
  • 1 0
 Looks sick and an all new damper system. I thought the rc3 was good cant wait to try this. They shaved a lot of weight off those crowns.
  • 3 0
 I just hope they make the new damper fit in the current 888 chassis.
  • 3 0
 I'll start buying Marzocchi when they send me my money back for the 55ATA.
  • 2 0
 Looks slipperier then a pregnant mother's vagina just after her water broke
  • 2 0
 Not going to miss the m arch. Fork looks very promising, looks like they finally might have it right.
  • 1 0
 I'm super excited about this. I'm anxious to see what else Marz has in store.
  • 1 0
 finally a dual compression rear shock from Marz. now they are an option for VPP.
  • 1 0
 I would have that rear shock over my cane creek any day of the week. Looks fresh!
  • 2 0
 where's the McDonald brace?
  • 3 2
 Finally a company made a tapered dual crown fork steerertube! Looks awesome!
  • 1 0
 that is the most sickest fork ive ever seen. cant even wait to see the price.
  • 2 0
 Wondr what the pocket damage is
  • 2 0
 Marzocchi is bak in business
  • 1 0
 I see broken springs in the future. Too many 200lb+ people going to be riding this gear.
  • 1 0
 That shock looks absolutely stunning. Can't wait to see it on a bike and hear about its performance.
  • 1 0
 i'll stick with my 2013 fox, absolutely faultless. the shock does look nice though
  • 5 2
 Ugly
  • 3 1
 Ugly
  • 1 0
 this could be the first time i want to ride a marzocchi shock! and i love this fork!
  • 1 0
 Question: Why don't triple clamp forks use 1.5 steerer tubes? Much stiffer front end
  • 1 0
 Applications don't always call for 1.5" would be my educated guess.
  • 1 0
 Same reason sc forks now arent made in full 1.5". Same stiffness as tapered, more stem options. And with a dc fork imo even a tapered steerer is redundant.
  • 1 0
 ok. the amount of great offerings on suspension market has become really confusing.
  • 2 0
 I wish I could go downhilling Frown
  • 1 0
 Placing the screws on the outer side of the crowns seems like a very stupid idea to me.
  • 1 0
 im difging the look ofthe gold and titanium shock. They should have called it The Shaft, done.
  • 1 0
 That rear shock looks seriously high tech, like something from the future. The forks looks amazing too.
  • 1 0
 what ever happened with marz doing the anodized stanchions, the green, gold and purple looks mean
  • 1 0
 I personaly dont dig chrome stanchions! But the fork itself has great specs. IMO
  • 1 0
 I hope they're at sea otter showing the new product. This will be the year of New dh fork designs and 650b
  • 2 0
 the new fork is ugly as hell but the rear shock is awesome!!!
  • 1 0
 YES!!! Finally might consider getting some Marzo suspension! This stuff looks SICK!
  • 2 1
 Decals on the forks looking kind of cheap. Everything else about them and the shock looks nice though
  • 2 0
 what iv been waiting for has arrived , marzocchi for life! tup
  • 1 0
 Ive always been a fan of the 888s I roll the 07 888 but these are just beautiful
  • 2 1
 All this new sus coming out has got me droolin'
  • 3 3
 Stoked! Hopefully the new 380 comes in black, only thing I don't like about the current 888.
  • 2 1
 With some luck you will found a black one or a red one
  • 1 2
 Is the coil on the rear shock titanium? If so, what's the outside diameter? It looks way smaller than any other ti coil out there
  • 4 0
 The coil shown in the photos is titanium and is a standard size.
  • 3 2
 anyone wanna buy my rockshox shit? I want this.
  • 2 0
 Am I allowed to, or can used Rock Shox products only be sold to the top 3% as well?
  • 1 0
 sweet !!! love that fork and the shock looks killer as well
  • 2 0
 Now thats Sexy!
  • 2 0
 BrownChickenBrownCow...
  • 1 0
 where is my 66? are they even going to make a new one?
  • 1 1
 Really liking the shock but don't like the fork. The arch on the lowers look tiny and plain compared to the current 888
  • 2 1
 How much so I can start saving???
  • 1 0
 f-in stoked! and 650 wheels? evolution at hand
  • 3 1
 Horrible decals desing
  • 2 1
 looks like a sr suntour copy of BOS lineup. nice
  • 1 4
 Been riding various marzo forks for 12-13yrs - I don't want them anymore.
I'm going Manitou for single crown and most likely DVO for DH.

I think Marzo have just lost what was special about their forks - and not they are just generic keep up with the Jones' forks.
888's were a great release - but this new fork is just toooo "meh so what?" although they will probably ride great, I'm just not excited about them or considering them.
  • 1 0
 They finally dropped the "M" arch! Best innovation in years.
  • 1 0
 That's looking sooo much better!
  • 1 0
 seems marz isn't dicking about anymore
  • 5 4
 Marzocchi, you're drunk, go home! ugliest fork i ever seen
  • 1 0
 ah a new dh fork. bring the shivers back
  • 2 1
 Save your hard earned money for DVO.
  • 1 0
 they are looking sick as, maybe a wise investment = time to save up
  • 1 0
 So want these on my tr450
  • 1 0
 looking great needs the gold stanchions
  • 1 0
 step aside Fox and Rock Shox loving my 8's these look so sic
  • 1 0
 I just drooled all over myself.
  • 1 0
 Nice product! But why dont just call it R2C2 like old ones lol?
  • 1 0
 shut up and take my money
  • 1 0
 Best fork I have ever ridden! This is a definite winner!
  • 2 1
 I like it.
  • 2 7
flag mr-smashy (Mar 22, 2013 at 6:57) (Below Threshold)
 DVO.....
  • 3 2
 appealing
  • 2 1
 WOW!!!
  • 2 1
 zocchi rule
  • 3 2
 Looking good, Marzocchi!
  • 3 2
 marzocchi is back
  • 1 2
 ...to the garbage they are known for.
  • 1 2
 No more "M" buster
  • 1 2
 Looks like a Session..?
  • 5 8
 Fork looks shite! Shock looks legit!!!
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