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First Look: The 2025 Marin Alpine Trail E Has a Bosch Motor & More Adjustability

May 20, 2024
by Jessie-May Morgan  
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The Marin Alpine Trail E Bosch joins the California brand's roster of eMTBs this week, with a host of important updates that go beyond a different brand of motor. Indeed, the Marin Alpine Trail E has been in the lineup for some time as a Shimano powered affair, but the linkage and geometry overhaul mean this Bosch powered option has quite a lot more to offer. It's hot on the heels of the 2025 Alpine Trail enduro bike announced last week, and it shares some of the adjustable geometry features.

The Alpine Trail E is a dedicated mixed-wheel eMTB, with 160mm of rear wheel travel serviced by a four-bar linkage, as opposed to the 150mm travel single pivot-serviced platform that is utilized by the Shimano-powered models. At the chainstay pivot is a flip-chip that simultaneously alters bottom bracket height and chainstay length, while an offset headset cup allows one to run the head tube angle at +/- 0.75° from neutral.

Marin Alpine Trail E Details

• Aluminum frame
• 29" Front, 27.5" Rear
• Travel: 170mm Fork, 160mm Rear
• Battery: 750Wh
• Range Extender: No
• Bosch CX Motor, 85 Nm torque
• Claimed weight: 27.8kg / 61.2 lb (size L, E2)
• Price: $6,599 (E2) / $5,699 (E1)
• Warranty: 5 years on frame, 2 years on motor
marinbikes.com


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Frame Details & Motor

The alpine Trail E Bosch has Marin's Series 4 aluminum frame and their new MultiTrac 2 LT suspension design, which uses a Horst link layout. Secured inside the downtube is a 750 Wh battery that is removable for charging off the bike. It powers the Bosch CX Performance Line motor, which boasts a maximum torque of 85 Nm and a peak power output of 600 W. That's achievable at a cadence of 70 rpm, as compared to the much higher cadences that are demanded by the Bosch SX motor that you'll see on much lighter offerings. There is no range extender option.

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The Alpine Trail E Bosch models have plentiful seat post insertion depth for the use of long travel droppers

Geometry

The Alpine Trail E Bosch is altogether quite different to the Alpine Trail E Shimano models, in terms of its geometry and suspension platform, as well as the obvious. Developed in conjunction with the Alpine Trail enduro bike, it shares a very similar geometry. However, while the acoustic bike is available in S-XL, Marin decided to offer the eMTB in M-XL only. Reach figures are 455mm, 485mm and 515mm, respectively. Chainstay lengths are the same across the sizes, but they are adjustable in the context of a BB height change.

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The frame provides two opportunities for geometry adjustment:

• Chainstay Length and BB Height: The flip-chip at the chainstay pivot raises/lowers the BB height by 7mm while simultaneously shortening/lengthening the chainstay by 8mm - it also concomitantly alters the head angle by 0.5°

• Head Tube Angle: The bike ships with a neutral headset cup, but a 0.75° offset top cup allows one to steepen or slacken the head angle

In its stock setting (as shipped), the flip-chip is in the Long and Low position giving a 443mm chainstay and a 345mm BB height, with the neutral headset cup giving a head angle of 63°. With two flip-chip positions and three steerer tube angles, there are six geometry charts to enjoy.

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Geometry options with the chainstay flip-chip in the Long and Low setting

Marin have gone for some very steep seat tube angles. The effective angles published in the geometry charts are measured using what Marin consider to be the average saddle height for that frame size - instead of measuring it at the height of the headtube. Here are those average saddle heights: 684mm for S, 721mm for M, 763mm for L and 795mm for XL.

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Geometry options with the Horst pivot flip-chip in the Short and High setting



Suspension Design

The Alpine Trail E Bosch has 160mm of rear wheel travel damped by a 205mm x 65mm rear shock, giving an average leverage ratio of 2.46. The leverage curve is progressive throughout, starting at a ratio of 3.05 and finishing up just north of 2.05. Both models run a custom-tuned coil shock. The more expensive E2 model gets a Fox DHX2 Performance Elite shock, while the entry-level E1 model gets a Marzocchi CR shock.

We don't have more kinematic graphs to share on this one. However, the designers tell us that, as with the Alpine Trail enduro bike, they had to move away from the linkage-driven single-pivot platform seen on the Shimano-powered models when increasing travel to 160mm. Marin say, "With MultiTrac 2 LT, the benefits of relocating the rear pivot points from the seatstay to the chainstay become apparent, as it reduces anti-rise, allowing for better chassis control while braking, more mid-stroke support, and better feel at bottom out."

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Build Kits

There are two Alpine Trail E Bosch models, both of which look to appeal to riders making more budget-oriented purchasing decisions. That said, both are adequately equipped with 160mm cranks, heavy casing tires with CushCore inserts pre-installed (worth $150 USD, for anyone interested), and four-piston brakes with 203mm rotors. Riders will need every bit of stopping power they can get: claimed weight for the E2 in a size large is 27.8kg (61.2 lb), and 28 kg (61.7 lb) for the XL.

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150 Comments
  • 144 41
 We are doomed. Now even pink bike journalists are calling mountain bikes “Acoustic bikes”.

Is such a cringe definition, I literally sick a bit in my mouth when I hear it.

Its not a ******** musical instrument!
  • 53 8
 I think it's hilarious
  • 10 12
 It's certainly being more polite about them than I would be.
  • 3 0
 I hate their noise
  • 34 1
 I wonder if she uses an acoustic toothbrush?
  • 11 5
 ebikes make the sound - so they should be called "accoustic"

normal bikes are silent Big Grin
  • 28 1
 Agreed. MTBs and eMTBS - it's so simple.
  • 1 1
 I will remove the lid of the glove box to install some strings on and play the way up
  • 5 39
flag srsiri23w FL (May 20, 2024 at 6:39) (Below Threshold)
 Why do British people say sick instead of throw up? Saying “sick a bit in your mouth” doesn’t sound right. You threw up or barfed in your mouth is correct.
  • 11 12
 Mountain bikes and Mobility Bikes. Pick one.
  • 7 0
 @jankropik: well most normal bikes are silent. Mine sounds like a box of loose wrenches.
  • 8 9
 @milanboez: lol, mobility bikes. that one I'm down with.
  • 8 0
 @srsiri23w: I know it is a CRAZY concept different country's doing/ saying things differently from the states.
Opinions are like butt holes, everyone's got them but does the rest of the world want to hear/see them is a different thing all together.
  • 6 0
 @srsiri23w: Do you barf in your mouth? Disgusting. Most people barf *out of* their mouths. Just sayin'
  • 4 7
 eMTB's having their own website would solve everything. As they should.
  • 2 1
 I think this is a good solution
youtu.be/sXKgml-bgvQ?si=Sfj2ewfy6vACrVpN
  • 1 1
 technically, ebikes are acoustic, because motors are noisy..
  • 9 0
 Amish is the correct term.
  • 1 0
 @milanboez: why would you have to pick one?
  • 4 2
 yeah that term is terrible. I much prefer slow bike, muscle bike, exercise bike, or bike that must have two flat tires.
  • 9 2
 @s-master: oh I dunno, flintstone bike riders seem to whine louder than an ebike motor. Lolz.
  • 4 0
 @nicholasvm: how about just ‘mountain bike’?
  • 2 0
 Agreed. Makes no sense. Not musically, not etymologically/linguistically.
Even if it was a guitar, it would be a classical one, not an acoustic one.

This is even more hilariously bad than the "clipless" debacle.

Also, this bike is looking really bad...shame, the previous alpine E with the EP8 was definately more elegant.
  • 3 4
 Ok , how about we just call them, ‘vintage’ bikes?
  • 81 3
 Not to fat shame but maybe it’s time to ozempic that belly, Marin.
  • 91 0
 It's not fat, it's just big batteried and suffering from Watter retention.
  • 3 2
 @bigtim: numerous bikes out there with bigger batteries that tip the scales lighter! Wink
  • 9 0
 It's not fat, just big boned.
  • 3 0
 @bigtim: Watter - are you from Barnsley?
  • 6 5
 I don't understand why companies build e-bikes like this. I would never buy that e-bike with the low hanging motor. Id bash it on rocks and crack the plastic first ride. Do better.
  • 2 0
 @DaveRobinson81: I suspect it’s a WATTs pun…
  • 5 0
 @kntr: where would the motor be better placed in your opinion? Somewhere up high so that it raises the bike’s weight balance higher?
  • 1 0
 @hitarpotar: see: Rocky Mountain
  • 7 16
flag mi-bike (May 20, 2024 at 8:34) (Below Threshold)
 @kntr: most of these bikes are bought by lazy commuters and will never go off road so the low hanging motor is just fine.
  • 4 13
flag OneTrustMan (May 20, 2024 at 9:18) (Below Threshold)
 @mi-bike:
Sad, but very true.
Almost all of the ebikes like this one at the very best see some forest trails.
And a lot of owners barely make 500km in 3 years.
  • 6 4
 Really is a shame that companies are just slapping bigger and bigger batteries on eebs. I'd way rather have a spare 400wh battery in the truck I can switch in between shuttle laps on a sub 50lb ebike than have a huge battery that's not removable. Kanuga has chargers you can plug into while you eat lunch. (sure other places in Europe have this too) Less is more on battery size/weight IMO. The Transition Relay is doing it right.
  • 5 0
 @succulentsausage: yeah, I'd love to see a bike that has 3 separate batteries, so you can run 1,2 or 3, and take out the ones you don't need for shorter rides.
  • 4 0
 The billboard size MARIN logo on the down tube doesn't help.
  • 1 0
 @hitarpotar: Some companies tip the front of the motor up for better ground clearance.
  • 1 0
 @kntr: this motor IS rotated up, look at the pics. The battery extends further down, it appears. My Levo is similar, which has a cheap, easily replaceable bash guard at the bottom of the battery. It looks like Marin did something similar here, tbv on the cheap/easily replaceable part.
  • 9 1
 @OneTrustMan: Not true where I live. Some of them are ex-DH people who now shuttle themselves up, others are older riders whose bodies prefer some assistance on a 40km/1200m ride and others are just people who just have 90mins free and wouldn't reach the good trails in that time otherwise. And then there are the young bros who just want more laps. I wish I would see more e-bikes commuting as that would mean less cars, but both lack of infrastructure and people's own mentality keep that from happening.
  • 1 0
 @bigtim: 9.3/10 for witty reparteé
  • 27 3
 28 kg!!! It might be extremely bombproof but that weight is far from most top competitors Bosch powered aluminum ebikes. And price is not that far from an Orbea Wild H10 for example.
  • 14 2
 It's got burly tires and cushcore. Atleast that's appropriate. Other manufacturers spec their bikes with Exo casing and then a claimed weight of 25kg in size small...
  • 3 3
 @SimbaandHiggins: what about Orbea? Their Wild is 20-21kg. Even if that’s EXO-tires equipped and small sized, it would be 23kg max with DD tires in large size. Still a significant difference!
  • 7 2
 @hitarpotar: headset cable routing means no Orbea for me
  • 1 2
 @hitarpotar: you can’t remove the battery which is a showstopper for me as I often swap mine out. It alloy which I think is a bonus, I would have broken carbon chainstays by now. It’s also $1000s cheaper. Unfortunately this Marin looks fuguly and looks like I’d be striking the underbelly all the time.
  • 2 0
 @hitarpotar: the Alu orbea wilds are reported to be 26kg
  • 2 1
 @Mugen: if we’re talking pre-2023, then may be tes. But 2023 onwards - no way!
  • 23 0
 At least Marin are honest about the weight!!
  • 13 1
 And they have made the grey one actually look like an anvil, as well as weighing the same as one.
  • 24 1
 61 lbs… bro
  • 3 0
 Closer to 62 (61.72943)
  • 4 0
 *for the XL. I don't think I've seen a heavier ebike. I'd love to see it reviewed, but I dont think I'll buy it because my 1up rack has a 50pound limit.
  • 12 0
 @wburnes: I think your this bike is meant to take your car to the hill.
  • 9 11
 I mean, it is a motorcycle
  • 1 0
 Very heavy. My XL pole is 60lbs on the nose with DH casings, cushcore, steerer tool, and pedals.
  • 1 0
 That’s over 20lbs heavier than my old TR450 and that wasn’t a light DH bike.
  • 23 3
 I know people love thier ebikes and maybe they are actually awesome. But jeez they are SO ugly.
  • 15 0
 It's a tad agricultural, presumably there's a Marin plough attachment coming out soon.
  • 3 2
 Santa Cruz Heckler SL or bust
  • 18 1
 I get all the hate. But I'm hyped on this thing. As a heavier rider who likes to self shuttle big climbs, 750 battery and 85nm is dreamy. I also really don't mind my ebike feeling heavy and very different from my normal bikes.
  • 18 3
 28kg with a 36mm fork diameter, good luck with that ! I love Marin but feel they’ve missed the sweet spot with this one
  • 2 4
 The weight is kind of normal for the sort of bike it is. Also, the Z1 is actually heavier than the Fox 38, since it's coil.
  • 2 5
 @Amukinado: I had a Trance ebike with a 36 and it was like a noodle, I hold out very little hope for this. Minimum 38 for anything north of 20kg IMO
  • 13 0
 Brage Vestavik seems to br doing fine on 36mm...
  • 5 1
 @SimbaandHiggins: and Semenuk is doing ridiculous stuff on 100mm travel, don't mean us mere mortals will be fine
  • 3 0
 @sewer-rat: the Z1 has stiffer chassis than the normal 36. The tubes are thicker and they use different air shafts because of that. It's a bit like comparing the Pike with the Lyrik. Both are 35 mm but the chassis are different. Also, the top spec bike comes with a Fox 38.

Then again, 36 migh be enough for some. That's why they give you options.
  • 13 0
 60+lbs - thats insane...
  • 12 4
 Insane value for build. Cheaper than some brands regular bikes. If one brand is able to get prices to this point the rest should be atleast able to do it, too
  • 1 0
 Brands charge whatever the market will support.

Brands want to maximize their profits, that's why there are so many different price points/version of each bike and component. They would be leaving profit on the table if they just sold top tier bikes at a lower price point.
  • 8 1
 If the previous model at ~26kgs is anything to go by, a bit more timber will only make it more planted. Absolutely brilliant bikes for the money, no issues making them leave the ground when you want to either.
  • 8 2
 27 kg is the norm for most Bosch 750 aluminium ebikes. Marin sometimes are a bit heavier because they add gravity casing tires with cushcore and coil shock. BTW, my Riftzone with the EP801 and 630 battery weights around 23,5 kg.
  • 9 1
 Such is the size of the down tube and bottom bracket acreage, they standout like some monstrous fisherprice kids golfclub.
  • 10 1
 too heavy even for an e-bike...
  • 6 1
 look at what they did to my boy... the previous years models might lack geo adjustability and only run 150mm out back on rims made of cheese, but it sure looks better. few upgrades and it's a sexy sender. not sure this update was needed eh.
  • 2 0
 If they could have stuck a Bosch in the existing frame, even if it limited the battery capacity, it would have been a win over this... CaseMobile.
  • 1 0
 @Steventux: yeah people love the Bosch eh? I have the ep801 and it’s been fine so far, aside from that annoying clacking sound descending. It makes a fine interim solution while zerode develop their gearbox e-bike at least. Will happily churn out the kms while I wait.
  • 2 0
 @coney: the euro market values Bosch over Shimano, so I think that's why they did it. I do aggree the older Shimano version is a brilliant as it is.
  • 2 0
 @coney: Same here - 3000 miles on the previous E2 model, the EP8 is holding up fine if a bit rattly, I try not to wash it at all Big Grin
I've tried Bosch CX bikes though and there's a huge difference in power delivery and battery life, I just don't know if I could get past the looks of this new model.
  • 10 2
 I threw my back out thinking about picking that thing up.
  • 7 0
 Looks like when fat dudes tuck in their shirt and hike up their pants to accentuate their belly.
  • 4 0
 I sure hope Marin doesn't discontinue Alpine Trail (Shimano version), I have one, its handles great for All-Mtn & Bike-park rideing and only weights 53lbs.
Not sure why they went with this new design, it just doesn't look right:/
  • 6 1
 As a rider of ebikes I love coming to the comment section on anything ebike related here on PB to read all the hate. I named my bike Trigger because it's like a horse and it triggers people.
  • 1 1
 Same here. Bike name.
  • 6 0
 They always looks like two half bikes welded ... one fat bike on the front and one slim one on the rear
  • 7 0
 I like Marin bikes but this thing is ugly AF.
  • 9 2
 They only time I'm using E is at a festival
  • 3 0
 I know a couple of local riders that were interested in the 2023 Marin Alpine Trail E2, but after they heard there were positive changes coming in 2024 they held out. Changes aside, when they saw the weight in this article it was an immediate no sale for them. How did Marin think that increasing the weight of their emtb to +60lbs was a good idea?? Somebody should be fired.
  • 7 0
 Fugly
  • 2 0
 I just said the same..Looks bloody horrid..Ha!
  • 6 0
 Ugly, simply ugly!
  • 5 0
 This bike looks like it's pooed it's pants.
  • 3 0
 Personally, I can stomach eBikes better when they don't look like they're pregnant, like the Levo for example. That's the direction bike companies need to be heading.
  • 1 0
 I have a Heckler MX that's 46lbs and a v3 5010 that weighs 31lbs. The difference picking the two up is substantial. Can't imagine riding an e-bike that's another 15lbs heavier. No thanks. And man, I usually like the looks of Marin bikes, but the motor area looks horrendous. Like, who thought that looked good? lol
  • 5 1
 more e-blender mtb is dead
  • 4 0
 27.8kg jeeze their getting more heavy!
  • 4 2
 That looks absolutely Horrid..Just look at the size of the thing..Anyone buying that has more money than sense..Simple..YUK !!!
  • 2 0
 Marin please read this, scrap this immediately its a no sale for almost everyone. Commencal did it way better with their Bosch bike and sales are slow. This thing is hideous.
  • 10 10
 the industrial designer must be fired... that bottom bracket/motor area look as if it were resurrected from past history..
750w batteries are a Huge Fail, only encourages a sport of "something else"
  • 7 4
 why, just done a weekend where we had to recharge at mid day before heading out again, a bigger battery would of given us more laps
  • 5 9
flag mstovy FL (May 20, 2024 at 5:57) (Below Threshold)
 @dilz000: maybe if you just had a normal bike and recharging was just lunch you wouldn’t have this problem
  • 1 1
 @mstovy: Lunch? I prefer the curved yellow recharging packs. Often use a couple a ride, but need to insert ~20 mins before reserves fully deplete.
  • 5 2
 The previous model looked alot better, and about 10lbs lighter
  • 1 0
 All brands should look at bike rack compatibility with weight and wheel base. Most consumers look at that and don’t want to buy a new rack with a new bike.
  • 4 1
 Another pregnant whale hits the E bike market (sighh)
  • 1 0
 That is something else. Not my cup of tea but Marin is building some extreme rigs these days.

You say weight doesn't matter? Marin: Hold my beer...
  • 3 0
 SOOOOO heavy. and kinda uglier.
  • 1 0
 Do people not smash the motor when it is located below and in front of the chainring? I hit my bashguard on a regular basis, would I not smash the motor on a bike like this?
  • 3 0
 Can I warm hot pockets in the motor cavity?
  • 3 0
 2015 Called and want their ebike back.
  • 3 0
 Why do bikes with Bosch motors look like they have elephantisis?
  • 3 0
 What's in the box?
  • 5 0
 you'll never know without a crane on hand
  • 2 0
 I look forward to the day 85nm+ motors aren’t the size of a small dog.
  • 4 4
 So what happens when this beast breaks down on some fat/out of shape person that is 10/15 miles out?
Do they call AAA roadside service/towing or fire & rescue?
  • 2 0
 needs a bigger motor and battery.
  • 2 0
 I thought my 24,9kg Giant E Reign was heavy. Jesus.
  • 3 2
 ...looks like ctrl|alt|delete
  • 1 1
 Except the weight and look, it was perfect : geo modulation, bosh, lots of travel...
  • 4 3
 shes thicc like serena williams
  • 1 0
 when did bosch make the CX all black? looks better than the weird gray
  • 1 0
 Nothing for us short kings or short ladies? Cool!!!
  • 2 1
 If it’s too heavy, you could ride a bike without a motor
  • 1 0
 How does it compare to the Salsa Notch?
  • 1 0
 Battery belly, hernia or pregnant?
  • 1 0
 Douchery is strong on this page
  • 1 2
 at this point it seems like these guys buy useless frames and sell em. they look always Old and ugly...
  • 8 7
 More ugly motorbikes
  • 2 1
 yikes
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