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Mondraker Unveils Prototype Downhill Bike - Fort William DH World Champs 2023

Aug 2, 2023
by Ed Spratt  

After keeping most of its new prototype race bike under wraps Mondraker has finally revealed all ahead of the Fort William World Champs.

The MS Mondraker team says the new bike had the help of Sprung Suspension in the creation of completely new kinematics for the bike, with a clear visual change compared to the previous version of the brand's Summum DH bike. Interestingly, while the team was running bolt-on idlers last year these are not present on the bike being shown off.

Alongside the redesigned kinematics the statement announcing the prototype details that the current bike allows the team mechanics to modify torsion braces as well as easily removable bottom bracket mo8nts and there is now a headtube that is said to allow increased adjustment to the bikes geometry without changing the front triangle.

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Well what can we say about this. The crew at MS Racing has had massive involvement in getting this project of the ground. MS Racing, Sprung Suspension along with the crew at Mondraker Bikes have come up with a whole new kinematics system for the Summum, making the overall feel of the bike like nothing we’ve felt on the Summum before. Changeable torsion braces allow riders and mechanics to get the bike exactly how they want it, along with removable bottom bracket mounts, and a head tube with a greater adjustment to allow geometry changes to the frame without replacing a whole new front triangle.

We’re so excited for you guys to see the frame, our riders have being loving the change and have only good things to say about how the new kinematics system is working, and the amount of adjustment in the frame.

Obviously this isn’t going to be a stock frame, we’re heavily prototyping so you can get the best frame we can make.

Stoked to see what it can do for the rest of the season.
MS Mondraker

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71 Comments
  • 123 7
 Looks cool.. but in all honesty, if it had the same paint job as the old bike I wouldn't even have noticed it was a different bike. I'm so shallow. Downvote away pinkers!!
  • 22 3
 The fact that you're sharing that with us means you're not so shallow, so I upvoted you.
  • 50 2
 don't tell me what to do, UPVOTED!
  • 2 0
 Came here to say this haha. Not sure they really needed to do whole black wrap thing as these changes are hardly noticeable on a visual level. Albeit it was great marketing because it got people talking about the bike more
  • 1 0
 Isn't this just a more adjustable aluminum version of the old Summum? (plus "torsion plate", maybe....)
  • 2 0
 @tofhami: biggest functional changes are 1) the rear shock now is driven directly by the rear triangle rather than the linkage 2) the ability change out the bottom bracket shell and adjust the seatstay bridge stiffness
  • 74 2
 This year they will say the rides prefered the feel of the aluminium frame... next year they will release an all new carbon frame which will be stiffer & more compliant
  • 18 2
 they will say the riders prefer whatever it is they are currently making.
  • 8 0
 If I remember correctly, they went from "alloy is all one needs" to "actually, this carbon one is better" in less than one year ? Only to now, not that long after, showing up with a new one all together.
Maybe it's just me, but this kind of very quick iterations for such a product are not very conductive to confidence on the brand.
  • 21 5
 @Arierep: Thats one way to look at it,
Or Conversely
-Hey we made something awesome!
-Holy shit, we didnt think we could make it this way, this is really awesome!
-Wow, a new manufacturing method, think we can make this even more awesome, Yes we can!
-Are you kidding me, even more awesome, and cheaper/simpler to make, more firggin awesome!
-This is it, for real, this is what awesomsauce is about, check this out.

Also, new and different and awesomer doesnt diminish the awesome of what was before....

How is it that as mountain cuclists, we continually want new, better, shinier, more compliant, more stiffer, more more more! Then when we get it, we criticize those that do the thing, and try to sell the thing?

Is there an acceptable rate of progression in this activity?
  • 2 0
 I’m waiting for wood frames to make a comeback
  • 5 0
 @onawalk: cuclists sounds like a dirty word
  • 1 0
 @Arierep: I completely agree. I sit firmly in the aluminum camp however a carbon bike came up and I couldn’t pass up the deal.

I think it’s probably with manufacturing and the ability to hydro form/bend the aluminum tubing to get the carbon properties but in a more durable material.
  • 2 0
 @Arierep: I agree that frequent iteration isn't necessarily a good sign, though it can also be a sign of a company that cares enough to learn, rather than just giving the outgoing model a little tweak and calling it close enough.

We can have some confidence about what's being tested, however, if we look at what's easily changed. In this case, one or both of the rear triangle transverse braces can be easily changed, so Mondraker is clearly trying to learn something about how rear end stiffness - or stiffness, in general - changes the ride characteristics. Maybe they want to know this because the transverse braces are an expensive part of their manufacturing and could be eliminated, or maybe they just want to optimize the ride characteristics.

We also see bolts around the BB. It's not clear whether these are also for tuning the stiffness or whether the BB is a separate element and its position can be changed to tune the kinematics (and, to a lesser extent, ride height).
  • 1 0
 @kopaczus: Money makes for a cozy ride
  • 1 0
 @takeiteasyridehard: dirty cuclister
  • 1 0
 @takeiteasyridehard: It does,
I like it
  • 28 2
 Mondrakers are just sexy, those lines are near perfect. They definitely have one of the best looking bikes out there across their whole range. I have never owned one and honestly I have only seen one here stateside but something about them is very appealing.
  • 2 0
 Agree. Hard to demo or get in Utah though
  • 6 0
 Love them, somehow ended up with 2 lol

Super expensive but occasionally you’ll get them heavily discounted in clearance.

Only things I don’t like about my foxy are the seat tube angle is a little slack, and I’d make the rear end a couple mm longer with more mud clearance cause that sucks for Scotland
  • 24 1
 DH bikes are still the sickest bikes out there!!!!
  • 8 0
 dude, i ride a dh bike around town. what else are you supposed to do with kerbs, and all that fun stuff to jump?
  • 3 3
 @baca262: ride a dirt jumper?
  • 3 0
 @nickfranko: used to when i didn't have the money for a fully, had a travel adjustable old pike on it first, then put a 888, then lowered it to 160mm. the last variation was an awesome bike. still, i could use a dj if i were able to do actual tricks like at least a 180 but i'm not into that, like the smashability of a dh bike much more. way back in the day, there actually were dedicated 26" street bikes

edit - dammit 2000's sound like wild west these days
  • 5 1
 Very lusty looking. Especially in RAW.
  • 2 2
 Last year it was an idler to fit in with everyone else, this year it's "torsion braces". How much difference are those plates really making, with that mega-chonky rocker and the massive amount of material around the chain-stay yoke? If the seat-stays do manage to flex the rocker, isn't that flex going to also go right into the trunnion mounts and just shred that shock? Or shred those seat-stay bearings if the rocker is stiff enough to protect the shock?
  • 13 1
 Weird eh, its almost like they are trying/testing new ideas out on the WC with some of their best riders, in real world race scenarios, and letting their riders decide what works best.

What a bunch of clowns!
  • 3 0
 I have that the riders at least Brook and Tuhoto have been way more competitive on this new bike
  • 2 0
 Love my Foxy and the zero suspension platform. Looking forward to feeling out the next gen
  • 2 0
 Love the machining on the rear end. Wonder how they're using the modular BB mount
  • 1 0
 Probably to change front-center to rear-center balance. Looks like there is plenty of room to move it forward, effectively lengthening the chain-stays (and shortening reach and front-center unless they have reach-adjust headsets in there as well). Also could play with BB drop easily.
  • 2 0
 Speaking of torsion braces, I'm still waiting for a cool torsion bar suspension platform to come out.
  • 1 0
 I here predict that torsion bars will be the new high pivots with idlers.
  • 3 1
 that's the lomgest session yet
  • 3 1
 @mondraker needs to get there Canadian distribution in check
  • 1 0
 And USA
  • 1 0
 I'm pretty sure Stoked shut down permanently.
  • 1 0
 @FrostyMugKiller: doesn’t surprise me I know the guy who ran it . He’s had about 4 different companies over the years . None have panned out and often leave customers without product . I actually ordered a bike last year gave a deposit and they lost it . I got my deposit back
  • 1 0
 @mxmtb: Glad you got your deposit back.
Got two bikes off of him. First one was super smooth. Second one sort of dragged out. But did show up. Few issues with that one wear never straightened out and I never heard from him again.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a Frankenstein chop shop bike made up of several other brands. Which isn't a bad thing.
  • 1 0
 Why did they decide to take the rain jacket off now? Don’t they know it’s usually pretty wet in Scotland.
  • 1 0
 FTC!!! Woot me Looks sweet
  • 2 0
 Neat
  • 1 0
 it's like a week with no wednesday in it.
  • 3 1
 Looks like a...NS?
  • 1 0
 Never liked the look of Mondy's, but this is growing on me
  • 2 1
 Can we get a close up shot?
  • 2 0
 Zoom in
  • 12 0
 Squint better
  • 1 0
 enhance, enhance, en....hance
  • 9 8
 Freaking sexy! Unlike the We are One DH bike
  • 6 1
 the we are one fanboi army out in force!
  • 6 1
 @kobold Ha! At least I'm not the only one. After lusting after the WAO Arrival since it came out, I was all excited when I saw they were making a DH bike. Then I saw pictures and was like "wow that's ugly!"
  • 1 0
 mm yeah raw finish with the welds oh baby mmmhmmm
  • 1 0
 Who are the team riders, can they make this bike win?
  • 2 0
 i bet danny hart wished he was still on mondraker, or saracen for that matter.....
  • 1 0
 Tuhoto for the Crankworx Whistler win!
  • 1 0
 The welds at the seat tube/top tube junction are gorgeous....
  • 3 0
 Looks like a duck smoking a cigar or eating a sausage or..... No, I'm not typing that.
  • 1 0
 @Neil6: OMG it does and now I cant unsee it-and yes a duck sucking an antelopes penis!
  • 1 0
 Abiut time to make the lower link beefier.
Is that abp at the back?
  • 1 0
 The "previous race bike" looks gorgeous.
  • 1 0
 Their downhill bike is going up hill.
  • 1 0
 Catch me out there in 2025 with the new carbon Summum. Let's Rage!!
  • 1 0
 Wonder if it's compatible with a super deluxe coil now.
  • 1 0
 I can't tell the difference from the old bike lol
  • 1 0
 Looks like a Sunday
  • 1 0
 Looks like a Summum
  • 1 0
 Hmmm, money for nothing?
  • 2 3
 Looks intense
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