Michelin Wild Rock'R 2 Tire - First Look

Oct 29, 2013 at 15:02
by Jordan Carr  
That’s right, another enduro specific product, but if any component should be designed specifically for enduro style riding, it's tires. As one of the two largest tire manufacturers in the world (remember, they do far more than just bike tires), they have the potential to put some serious development effort into any market they see fit. Recently, we were invited to check out the French brand's recent development work towards the new Wild Rock’R 2. While the "e" word gets bandied about a lot these days, the philosophy behind a bike or component that is well balanced enough to be both efficient and aggressive makes complete sense, especially when talking about tires.

A tire intended for enduro racing should allow a rider to push their limits on virtually any type of trail, but at the same time not feel like a tractor tire on the way back up. With a solid four years of development, the Rock’R 2 has seen hundreds of hours of research and testing, but Michelin is finally confident with what it has to offer.

Wild Rock'R 2 Details
• Intended use: all-mountain/enduro
• Sizes: 26'', 650B, 29”
• Width: 2.35''
• Casing: Advanced Reinforced with Tubeless Ready bead
• Tread compounds: Magi’X (softer dual compound) and Gum’X (harder single compound)
• Weight: 998 grams (650B, claimed)

Details
With the growing trail and enduro market, tires are an obvious piece of the equipment puzzle. A rubber choice that can do everything and do it well is often a difficult request, but many companies are devoting lots of time to this specific niche. With the Rock’R 2, Michelin’s goal was to balance a burly, versatile tread pattern with a compound and casing that would roll well, all while still offering top notch traction and durability in a variety of situations. After sixty three different prototypes, Michelin finally found what they believe is the perfect balance of these characteristics. A low V-shaped knob at the
center of the tire is said to provide ample traction while the tire is flat on the ground while also offering a smooth, resistance free feel on hardpack surfaces. Pairing two distinct compound tires provides the Rock’R 2 with a balanced feel for the specific needs of front and rear tires, while also offering a compound option for riders in a variety of riding zones. Much of the tire's design came as a result of development from with French legends Fabien Barel and Pierre Edouard Ferry.

Fabien Barel on Michelin tires

Fabien Barel spent a considerable amount of time helping to develop Michelin's new Rock'R 2.


Tread Design
Developing a distinctly different tire that offers improvements and design diversity compared to others on the market is obviously a difficult task. The best all around enduro style tires are starting to share many similar design principles: mid-height directional middle tread for efficiency paired with prominent aggressive side knob for ample cornering. Though many of the top tires share these main attributes, they are all distinctly different in compound and overall knob shapes, not to mention hugely different when it comes to casings and construction.

Rock R2

The Michelin Wild Rock’R 2 is designed for use on dry, extreme terrain. From a technical viewpoint, the tread pattern is developed to offer the best combination of rider output and braking ability utilizing a center tread that alternates transversal and longitudinal blocks, and its large lateral lugs are made up of either 50A or 55A rubber depending on the need. Throughout the tread, numerous sipes help increase block mobility and create high-pressure areas while also improving grip on hard, slick terrain.

After years of development, the release of the Wild Rock’R 2 shows Michelin’s commitment to this continually growing segment of the mountain bike market. “We really see this as an important market and want to offer a top notch product that helps move the market forward,” explains Tom Sullivan, Michelin's US PR Manager. “We know we have fallen behind in the trail MTB market, but we didn’t want to prematurely release a product that was nothing but the best, and we feel the Rock’R 2 provides this and we are excited about it.

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We were able to ride the new tire in a variety of conditions and on a variety of terrain during our quick trip to France. This included some seriously slick sections of trail that showed that the Rock'R 2 isn't just a one trick pony.


First Impressions
So, after a couple rowdy days on some of France's most prominent trails, what is our initial feedback to take home from riding this milestone tire for Michelin? A quick glance at the Rock’R 2 and it's obvious how Michelin's development mentality has changed from the past couple years. The tread pattern looks well designed, its casing looks solid and durable, and most importantly, tread compound is much more supple than all recent Michelin offerings. Once mounted up, the tire inflates to a true 2.35'' and the sharp, fresh knobs add an aggressive touch to any trail bike. Though we only spent a total of around eight hours of riding the tires so far, we were able to run them on a wide variety of trails and terrain. Our first trail was filled with wet leaves, wet dirt, and a smattering of slick off camber rocks. After a few pressure adjustments we found the sweet spot. Though the tires did pack up with mud quickly on certain stretches of trail, the cornering knobs remained useable and bit deeply, even on wet and unfamiliar trails. The new Magi’X compound mounted up front was noticeably tackier, and it aided by adding grip on wet rocks and off camber sections. Once we descended out of the trees, the tires took a bit of time to shed the sticky mud due in part to the closeness of the knobs and their siped pattern. Once clean of mud, they were a quite capable. Acceleration and braking was great on dry to loamy soil, while the soft front side knobs made flat gravely corners much less of a panic to reduce speed. After only a few rides, the Rock’R 2 shows some serious promise in the competitive trail tire market. If they hold up like traditional Michelin tires while matching the performance of many fast-wearing competitors, the Rock’R 2 could become a top contender for dry, rough terrain. Stay tuned for a long term review.

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122 Comments
  • 121 1
 The 'growing Enduro and trail market'?? You mean mountain biking?
  • 16 1
 Thank God an Enduro Tire for my Enduro Bike !
  • 2 6
flag leo76 (Oct 30, 2013 at 6:35) (Below Threshold)
 BURN!!
  • 10 1
 Exactly the first thing I thought reading that line. This is a general mountain bike tyre, for people not obsessed with weight. The kind of tyre I have used for the last 20 years! But I guess, I should avoid these tyres, because I don't race Enduro, nor do I intend to... hmm. Classification is so pointless.
  • 5 0
 Funny how it's being marketed as some new thing... imagine that, people riding their bikes in differing terrains, using their own legs the entire time.... what will the kids think up next?!
  • 5 4
 Cos yeah, noone rides anything but enduro/trail any more. Dh is pretty much dead in the water, xc racing is just "gay", no one rides dirt jumps these days, and no one even turned up to rampage this year....oh wait....
  • 6 1
 This hate on the "Enduro" terminology is tiresome (see what I did there?). XC is also a reference to the race format in which those bikes excel, why is it worth even mentioning that a trail bike or it's components is being called Enduro? No one is requiring a bib plate on your bike.
  • 5 2
 Yes, they mean mountain biking, but they mean a specific demographic of mountain biking. It's like if you read an article that said "small 2 door compact market is growing". Now what if car sales in general are decreasing, but increasing in one market? Do you say car sales are increasing since one market of them is? Or do you say they are decreasing because as a whole all vehicle sales are down? The labels exist to help identify and specify certain subsets of a larger set. It's a basic principle of business and economic trends.
  • 4 0
 Your talking about statistics, this is just marketing BS. In the end an 'enduro' bike is just an all round mountain bike. I guess though in the end, some people would just sit dribbling from one side of their mouth trying to work out which tyres are 'designed' for their specific bike if no one actually marketed it as such!
  • 3 0
 cyrix, my comment was poorly written, I was addressing everyone feeling the need to always make fun of the "enduro" label. I agree with you.
  • 1 1
 I was replying to the OP, it's all good.
  • 2 0
 Despite my comment I welcome this advent of long travel, light weight bikes that climb as well as they descend.
  • 3 0
 I thought "enduro" referred to a category that combined dh technical descents with some trail, whereas trail riding has always (to me at least), been more about general riding (xc with a little more technical elements)......oh hang on a minute, that means enduro dh is more 'downhilly' than trail technical descents. We need a new category, precede all mtb categories with 'race', 'pro', or 'fun'...that way we will know the difference between eg. 'Race xc' and 'fun xc'....confused? We only have ourselves to blame :-)
  • 3 0
 I only ride enduro.....and Park....and DJ.....and Freeride........and.... Don't forget, Pick a wheel size and be a dick about it.
  • 31 2
 Nice to see a company being honest about it's failings with respect to falling behind it's competitors. I'm a sram fan but I couldn't see sram or shimano holding their hands up about a sub par product. Michelin hopefully have upped their game
  • 5 0
 If it's anything like the Wild Grip'R 2's that I've been running they will be awesome in the dry/damp.
  • 1 0
 Have used Grip'R's all summer, awesome tyre.. minor problems.. wear (and they do, but if ya want grip?) and running tubeless.. they are sat on UST rims (Mavic 823) and will burp when pushed unless running pressures in the high 30's... these new Rock'R's might be an option so possibly my next set of tyres...
  • 21 0
 Bummer. I was looking for a trail tire.
  • 3 4
 Go with the Wild Grip'r 2's.
  • 6 0
 Go with Schwalbe they have several tyres with "trail" in the name of one of their rubber compounds.
  • 1 0
 As a front tire, Grip'R 2 outperforms the Hans any day of the week. Put many miles on both.
  • 1 1
 There's quite a lot of tyres that outperform Hans Dampf - in almost everything... just like Ardent it's a tyre for conditions dry as old mans arse, so dry that longer knobs wouldn't help anyway. Like for those press camps in Sedona where they test bikes to be ridden in Vancouver and Europe... eventually you might use it as a rear tyre, but again it is heavish for the tread pattern it provides. Minion DHF EXO wieghs the same and knobs are double the size. Should be 100g lighter
  • 21 4
 Doesn't matter how much it costs because its enduro specific
  • 1 0
 should a Enduro tires last longer (wear) then a trail tires Wink
  • 9 0
 Awesome..I didn't realize that when my mtn. bike turned it's self into an enduro bike, that it was left with old fasion tires. Now I have eduro tires I can put on...AWESOME! I hope they cost a lot, that would be sweet!!
  • 9 0
 Here I am looking like a fool with my all-mountain tires.
  • 7 0
 It's so nice that we now have enduro to let us all know that bike stuff should be efficient AND aggressive.
  • 2 0
 Annoyance with the overuse of "Enduro" aside, the extra focus on efficient AND aggressive actually is a really good thing for me. Thats how I ride my "not-quite-downhill-more-than-xc-bike" (which is actually a Specialized Enduro...).
  • 1 0
 Is it really an extra focus now, or is it now just extra focus on something that was already happening in order to further push a buzz word on us?

Components that balance efficiency and aggressiveness have been getting better in both categories consistently. Correlation does not equal causation. Just because some of that improvement has happened in the heyday of enduro, that isn't the cause.
  • 3 0
 @thedeathstar
Good point.
In my naiveté I like to think that bike companies have my best interests (as a mostly DH rider without regular access to shuttle and lift trails) in mind, when in reality profits are the biggest motivator.

In my defense, when I started riding there were two options only, DH strong or XC light.
  • 5 1
 Their last offerings were below standard, bought a pair (wild rock'r) as soon as they were available, found out they were not as promised.
I decided to leave constructive criticism on chain reaction cycles website and they removed it within days. That was disappointing from them Frown
  • 6 0
 Not keen on tyres with small center knobbles. They're gonna wear out too fast when you're busting out wicked skidz.
  • 4 0
 So you are hoping that they will be releasing a Wild Skid'R tyre?
  • 2 0
 I see what you did there Wink
  • 2 0
 hey, the best enduro tires I ever had are my Panracer Fire xc's... I just stroked out the XC on them and wrote Enduro with whiteout. They are for sale for 100$ each because they are Enduro specific. I also wrote Enduro On my Jamis. I would sell it for 3700$...
  • 6 1
 Tire like Tire ... nothing special.
  • 2 0
 I'd buy them i have one of their older "below par" tires and i really enjoy it's preform for mid duty all around use, can't keep up with minions in the corners but climbs as well as a dhr over wet roots and rocks.
  • 3 0
 I dont get why the mud performance was downplayed when its supposed to be a tire for dry conditions..? Doesnt seem right, especially with a name like Rock'r2
  • 1 0
 nobs are soo tight they need some room too breath
  • 1 0
 "Enduro" seemed to make perfect sense in the motorcycle world; not a motocrosser and certainly not a street bike but you could do both if you wanted to. I guess something that could take a beating, not race light and would hopefully get you home. On the other hand I'd just call it a "dirt bike", there's our new category catch phrase.

I'm going to build bike called an "Endora", because I have a thing for Agnes Moorehead...
  • 2 0
 I cannot get the face of that Canyon rider out of my mind. Soo hysterically funny I think. I wish they had a video of that scene.
  • 3 1
 That's too heavy.............Wild grip'R 2.25 has plenty volume and just 680g, tubeless ready!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 3 1
 If you want light tires for light riding keep your flexy wild grip'rs. These are made for agressive riding so the semi heavy and sturdy casing is needed.
  • 4 2
 After thorough testing, ramped minion is the answer... Smile Seriously though nice looking tire
  • 3 0
 Where`s the "HOT S"-colour/rubber option? I like `em redheads
  • 5 0
 Nobody from upper-middle class would buy a ginger tyre
  • 3 0
 and what about those Canyons you tested the tire with?
  • 2 1
 hhmmm enduro so it's good at climbing but not really and good at downhill but not really I'll take two of em
  • 1 0
 The last picture looks like how I go downhill…except I am probably moving at about a tenth of that guy's speed.
  • 2 0
 I was thinking POD on that picture, I can relate to it very well
  • 1 0
 ...........
  • 1 0
 Wild rock'r? Like wild sex? Enduro a turn on? They could call it "amour fou".
  • 1 0
 And Karim Amour would be their signed test rider.
  • 2 0
 looks like a high roller to me
  • 1 0
 exactly what i was thinking
  • 2 0
 Single ply dh tires in a 2.35+ format works for all my trail needs.
  • 1 0
 Bring back the original comp 16 onto the market and they would be right back in the game.....
  • 1 0
 Lots of hurt feelings on this one, the tire must not be what they claim to be!
  • 1 0
 Looks like a revamped Nevegal to me.
  • 5 4
 Enduro...... The new catch phrase
  • 18 1
 All mountain=$
Enduro=$$$$
  • 5 6
 Funny they call it an enduro tire. Article says they started it 4 years ago. Who heard of enduro then???
  • 21 4
 It's just a word used to describe a subset of riding.

AM, XC, DH, DJ, SS, FR, Enduro, Trail, etc....

They are ALL catch phrases that started out as nothing more than a way to describe a different style of riding. I mean really look at how our sport started. Then look how it started to branch out and become more specific. I actually see AM and Enduro as very different styles of riding. Apparently I'm one of the few who sees how different they are.

The only problem really is that for each of these disciplines there is just a few minor changes that define them. Now, is it such a bad thing that bike companies try to make products that excel under a certain set of conditions you'd expect to come across in each discipline? No, it's not. They are trying to cater to people who only ride a certain way. There are bikes that excel at certain things while sacrificing in other areas.

Can you use a XC bike for Enduro or AM or Trail? Yeah. No ones stopping you. Can you use an "enduro" tire for XC riding? Sure.

There is no reason to be so bothered by things being classified into certain ways. I really don't get why people are so bothered by this. Do people complain and say "Oh well it's a DH tire, guess I can't use it since I don't ride DH." No they don't. Hell, I use fat knobby DH tires on my XC bikes.

Our sport is still changing, still growing. Can we just all get over the labels? The wheel sizes? All of that stupid shit and just enjoy bikes? When you were a kid did you care about all of that? No. You just wanted to be on two wheels, going somewhere, and being free for a little bit. That's what bikes are about.
  • 4 1
 they also coulda said we started to make enduro products before it was cool lol
  • 3 2
 why do people let trail fly? why not just agressive xc? or simply all mountain?
  • 6 2
 Because they got over the "trail" label. They'll get over the enduro label too. This site is ground zero for mocking and shitting on any change in the industry. Remember Carbon? The hell that the community raised over that? Now people love it.

They'll grow up and get over this too.
  • 2 1
 what is the difference between "xc" and "trail"? "AM" and"enduro"?
  • 5 2
 They're just more... eh... advanced versions of each other. That's really it. That's why the gear is so interchangeable. After Enduro you get DH. And really that's what Enduro is, it's like Diet DH. Only one calorie. That is of course a gross oversimplification of the matter, but that's the gist of it.
  • 5 4
 enduro: untimed ride up with timed down, but the bikes used make it unique 1x10/11 drivetrain, single crown 160mm forks with downhill dampers and shock is usually high volume to and full faces always, all mountain is a non race version of enduro where the bikes are usually the same but sometimes 2x10 drivetrains, same-ish suspension maybe some lockout thingys, and you get to see those funky poc trabec helmets, xc is a bunch of spandexers and sometimes baggy riders called Fontanas with lightweight 100mm travel 29ers, trail is all baggys with 140mm of travel 27.5-29ers and that's pretty much it
  • 2 1
 I don't know why people are so anal about it. En-DURO... sounds so Italian or en´DU-rho - so French. So latin anyways - I love it. Great name for the whole line of products for adults... if you know what I mean
  • 1 2
 Wait, hold on. "Trail" is now a thing? Just when you think it can't get anymore douchey...
  • 1 0
 gamblor - Trail might be a "new" thing if it gets it's own world widely recognized racing format. It is the last independent "genre" that industry might not have exploited to it's full potential. Trail hasn't got yet what AM got with Enduro. I don't mean it's a bad thing, honestly no irony here. But 100-120 bikes with 120-150 forks is the last stand. Sounds so hipstersh - I know. I have a bike like that and I wonder how much time it will take for the mainstream to pick it up as the next big thing. I bought Nomad in december 2007 and it wasn't until 2010 when I saw a noticable number of people riding park with those. This year slightly more than a half of all bikes in the park were 6" bikes. So it might as well never happen that Trail bikes will get same attention as AM bikes, as they are ridden rather slowly on local trails and they are what they are because climbing is important for their owners. AM bikes in fact always had lots of attention, but it was hidden within people. We had to see 6 Video recaps from EWS to see that Enduro can be as gnarly as DH or even gnarlier, and now you have a proof, now you can be considered masculine enough to openly own one. - no irony, pure psychology. I'm not laughing.
  • 1 2
 gamblor, Trail has been a thing for years and years. And why do you participate in a sport you think is so "douchey"?
  • 1 0
 "Enduro can be as gnarly as DH or even gnarlier" EEEEEEEEEERRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr No. Just...No. Cyrix Yes. spot on. couldn't agree more.

Im sure last week i was agreeing with everything Waki said and may have posted a very long response about how Cyrix was wrong about something. Can't really remember what. Hahaha, no offence meant to anyone either way. xx
  • 2 1
 None taken. I'm fully okay with the fact people won't agree with what I say sometimes.
  • 1 0
 I use my first hand experience with two WC DH tracks and as usual: my inagination. Then the opinion of mr Dirt Jones: 5th stage of EWS in Whistler had more big stones and steep shutes than all rounds of DH WC...
  • 1 1
 @cyrix - Never said mountain biking was douchey. But whoever is starting to push Trail as some kind of official genre now deserves a swift kick in the junk.
  • 1 2
 Dude, no one is "starting to push" trail as some kind of official genre. It's existed for a LOOOOOOOOONG time and has been excepted by pretty much everyone as part of the sports lexicon.
  • 2 1
 So let me get this straight, when you ding around your local XC trails you tell everyone: "Brah, I don't ride XC, I ride Trail." Yup, nothing douchey about that, lol.
  • 1 3
 No you petulant child, I say "I'm going to ride my bike."

Get over the labels and grow up. If anyone here is a douche it's you. Jesus Christ.
  • 1 0
 indeed some people ride gnarlier stuff on a 160mm bike than some other people on a 200mm bike, but if you were to take the gnarliest gnarl that a 200mm bike could be gnarled through by a very gnarly rider, then attempted the same gnarlyness with the same gnarly rider on the 160gnarl bike, then the gnar would probably out gnarl the gnarly rider on the not so gnarly bike, and he (or she, look at me being all modern and stuff) may end up with some gnarly wounds on his or her gnarly face. Therefore Enduro is and can not be as gnarly as DH. Whatever Mr Steve Jones would like us to believe. Good on him tho for being as excited about something new and shiney as a good journo should.
  • 1 0
 but if you take the gnarliest stuff you can ride a downhill bike on it gets called "freeride" like Rampage... these labels suck but dh is gnarlier than enduro imo
  • 2 0
 I think what is coming to the fore is that dh bikes may (and I mean may) have reached a plateau in terms of innovation, whereas 160mm bikes, especially enduro, are becoming lighter with more technical ability. Therefore, the gap is closing. Maybe dh tracks need to get some more gnar?
  • 2 0
 I have no self gathered data backing that up, because I haven't been to a single EWS or Super Enduro stage, so I am only assuming that Enduro guys do ride stuff that is as rough as DH WC courses. And they ride on smaller bikes. My source backs that up. All DH fans have left now is steepness of Champery in wet and Sam Hill in 2009 in ValDiSole . Look at those Urban races in Latin America... XC gets gnarlier also, no more fireroad rally - people brake bones! To me it is a fact - DH has hit the plateau. And if average Joe Svensson who wants to buy a 500$ bike is to be impressed by marketing driven development of high-end bikes, he needs to see more obvious gnar, otherwise don't bother. Something tells me that what Rampage just did (or riders going as nuts as ever this year) it will re-emerge Freeride. It will be better for companies to put money on "Freeride" as a flagship, just as Spec used to do. Spec still has the largest number of world craziest and most skillfull riders and ambassadeurs. Maybe they are the ones knowing what they are doing with not goign into 650B? Cuz after all - 26" look best in the air of all MTB wheel sizes? It is just easier to impress that small buyer with a guy being upside down, having 10m from take off and 10 more to landing, than a bloke on DH bike. And tracks like PMB are giving marketing departments a really hard time...

Then Enduro gives you an impression of a race format in which Joe can participate without killing himself. Furthermore he can have fun on his 500$ bike! It's a delusion but it is the one driving the sport forward. Ride & Race with your buddies - DH has lost that. Gwin, Minnar and Gee killed it, nothing against them - it would happen sooner or later. DH needs people like Stevie, Hart, Peaty, Blenki, Wyn Masters, not race machines. Race machines are for Nerds, nerds are irrelevant. They buy stuff second hand, ebay or on sale outs - because they know too much.
  • 1 0
 DH definately needs to up its game in terms of track difficulty. PMB is just a joke. I know some people get all defensive about it, but the fact is, if big wheels or less travel will get you to the bottom faster then that does not mean they are inherantly better, it means the track just is not challenging enough. Hell, at this rate in ten years time we will all be riding down super smooth tracks (called roads) on super short travel 29ers (called road bikes) and going at a million miles an hour. Don't get me wrong, doing a million miles an hour down a steep road on a road bike is bloody fun. But its not how I envision DH.
  • 1 0
 here comes the PMB bitching again...
  • 2 0
 As far as I remember Canberra got equal amount of hate. After the race the internet calmed down. Then few months later few racers and team managers started going medieval on it. I remember very well manager of Morewood team going: if I can ride that track up on my XC bike as an easier way to get to the top of the XC course, then something is wrong
  • 3 1
 Difference for XC, Trail, all-mountain, enduro, dh... Well I guess you get points according to where you put the word on a Scrabble board. XC is worth a lot but all-mountain is longer so you can get double word box...
  • 2 4
 Fab Barel spent a lot of time designing it eh? Well too bad he isn't on it in that picture...

What are you even supposed to do when you have a tire sponsor, a wheel sponsor, then your wheel sponsor comes out with tires?
  • 1 0
 Shows what you know, look at the side of the casing and the knob pattern, its not Mavic. Lots of pros have contracts where they can run tires of their choice.
  • 2 0
 Check pics from Finale. Barrell ran them there. Trails mostly dry and rocky. I think his result speaks for itself.
He is renowned for being very involved with what he rides and being a seasoned Pro no doubt he has this in his contract with a view to a long term career in MTB on or off the bike.
i believe he is also a qualified engineer.
As for the pic of the lad skidding on the wet with packed up tyres ? well dry tyres do that.
  • 1 0
 Schwalbe all the way to the trailhead Smile
  • 1 0
 The first one was shit.
  • 4 4
 looks like a goofy warn out minion
  • 3 4
 EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 1st pic will be pod
  • 1 0
 I like my HR2s just fine
  • 1 0
 I like the colour scheme
  • 1 2
 MICHELIN TIRES BLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 3 5
 If you buy these tires, you will feel like you got rob?
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