Specialized Prototype Pedals

Jul 21, 2011
by Mike Levy  
 
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New Specialized Pedal
  Specialized's progressive looking prototype pedals may not yet have a name, but the Monster Energy - Specialized team have been putting them through the ringer for quite awhile now. You can expect to be able to purchase the new pedals this coming Fall once testing is complete.


Specialized prototype pedal details:

• Cold forged 7050 aluminum body
• 10mm body height (measured at the middle, not the edges like some others do)
• Body features dual concave (front to back, side to side)
• Each pedal spins on a large inboard sealed bearing and twin needle bearings
• Weight: 510 grams per set (production version could be lighter)
• Price: TBA
• Availability: Fall 2011
New Specialized Pedal
  Do these scare you or are you looking for the most grip possible? These monster 8mm pins may never see production, but it is cool to see Specialized testing out different options to see what makes the most sense.


How are the Specialized prototype pedals different? Pinkbike had the first look at Specialized's prototype pedals nearly two months ago, but these are worth another gander as they get closer to their Fall production date. They have been developed by Jason Chamberlain, the main man behind FSR suspension at Specialized, for the last year and a half and are currently being tested by the Monster Energy - Specialized team at races around the world. Chamberlain has included a number of novel features, but the pedal's bearing and body design are the two key elements that set them apart from the pack.

Unlike most other pedal axles, these don't make use of a threaded nut at their outer end to attach them to the pedal body. This means that the axle uses a smooth, tapered design all the way to the end, making it much stronger than an axle with threads cut into the end of it. So, you're no doubt wondering how the body stays put on the axle if there is no nut on the end to hold it in place? A threaded collar, removed and installed with a small pin spanner, is located on the inboard edge of the pedal body where you would expect to find flats for a pedal wrench. With no nut at the end of the axle required to hold the body on, the pedal can be made impressively thin at just 10mm. There are a number of designs that use a larger than standard inboard bearing, but Chamberlain has another trick up his sleeve...

Under the trap door: Chamberlain had to be quite creative in the battle to build the thinnest pedal possible without having to resort to using bushings or micro sized sealed bearings, both of which can hamper smoothness and reliability. His answer was to not only use dual needle bearings, but to build their outer races (the surface that the bearings rotate on) right into the pedal body in the form of the hinged metal door. This means that the extra height from separate bearing races isn't added to the equation, but it also provides easy access for maintenance when the time comes.


New Specialized Pedal
  Wondering what the small trap door is all about? It actually serves as the access point for the twin needle bearings, as well as their outer race, helping to shave a few millimeters from the body height. The pedal pictured above is fitted with the shorter square pins instead of the taller 8mm spikes, although other shapes and sizes are being tested as well.


Is longer better? Pedal body concave can certainly help hold your feet in place upon the pedals, but the pins act as your contact point(s), and therefore play the largest role in how much grip you actually have between the soles of your shoes and the pedals. Knowing this, it is somewhat surprising that a lot of pedals use simple, off the shelf set screws (although cost certainly plays a role in the decision) for traction. Specialized has been experimenting with different shaped pins, including some that are a whopping 8mm tall, although it was mentioned that even Sam Hill has been using some slightly tamed down 7mm versions. Interestingly, the team has also been testing square shaped pins with great results, presumably due to the pin's sharp corners. Specialized has yet to decided what the production pedals will use, although they do plan to include washers that can be added to the pins before threading them in from the opposite side to reduce their height. The pins are also shaped in such a way that if there is a rock strike, they will snap at a predetermined point and still be easily removable from the body - no vise grips or drilling required.


Prototype Specialized pedals. Photo by Ian Hylands.
  Can too much grip ever be a bad thing? Not if you're are racing World Cup downhills, according to Brendan Fairclough. Specialized showed us two versions of their prototype pedals, one with some very threatening 8mm tall pins (left) installed. Specialized is still undecided as to if this setup will be an option for consumers, although there are certainly many out there who would snap them up. They also had a version equipped with shorter square pins that are said to provide much more grip than the more common set screw design, presumably due to their pointed corners.
New Specialized Pedal
  A large inboard sealed bearing takes most of the stress, while a set of two needle bearings are used at the end of the full length axle. The four holes on the facing edge of the body body are actually threaded to accept spare pins - pretty clever! All three outer edges are solid, no material has been machined away, for extra strength to survive the abuse that downhillers will be putting them through. Specialized is planning on producing a special run of pedals for team riders that use both titanium axles and pins in an effort to save some grams on their race bikes. Will these versions see production? The answer was ''maybe''. I hope so!


A lightweight option: As someone who uses platform pedals on all of my bikes, cross-country rig included, because of both wobbly ankles and because I feel that they add an extra level of fun to the ride, I was very excited to hear that there may also be a lightweight version of the above pedal in the works made specifically for XC and lighter duty use. While Chamberlain wasn't keen to share too many details, it sounds like they could use a pared down body and more titanium components than the heavier DH version, but still use a full bearing setup instead of those nasty, and often very sticky, DU bushings. Tall pins, smooth spinning bearings, a reasonable weight and a thin 10mm body height all sound great to me - lets hope that these see the light of day!


Are you excited by what you see? Lets hear what you think of Specialized's effort to create the ultimate platform pedal - put those thoughts down below!

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257 Comments

  • + 194
 Those look like they'd look at your shins and go " Omnomnomnomnom "

I gotta have 'em.
  • + 43
 i think there gonna have to come out with tougher shin pads.....
  • + 13
 Nahh.

People are gonna have to pinn'r a little more though. Get through things as fast as possible so that there's less of a chance your feet slip Razz
  • + 4
 Came to comment about the same thing, lol.
  • + 4
 I spy some Gargantuous shinpads that are gonna need to be worn Razz
  • + 6
 Why's everyones feet slipping off? Obviously you guys haven't ridden specialized pedals cause the gold low pros were awesome. These look even more refined, good job to the guys at spec!
  • - 25
 its called clipless pedals bmxerch...
  • - 66
 Facepalm

Who's actually dumb enough to use clip pedals while riding DH/FR like a good 80% of people are planning to use them for?
  • + 60
 ummm...... Peaty, Beamount, Rach and Gee Atherton (inc during the Red Bull Rampage), Brosnan, Stevie Smith, Danny Hart - and those are just what i can think of the top of my head - anyone of thinks using either clips or flats for this or that is just plain ignorant - people have differnt riding styles and tastes and you cant call people who win world cups/champs and place second at rampages "dumb" - once you dominate the dh/fr scene and no one touches your dominance i will consider your point - till then ill race dh clipped in and do my all mountain stuff on flats - dumb ass

oh - and gwinn clips in - that boy knows nothing about racing dh!
  • - 63
 Well dipshit, obviously they have the SKILL required to be able to ride with clips.

I'm talking about your average rider who bails more than offren. Why would a normal rider clip in ?

Look at me for example, I ride clipped in for A LIVING, I even shred Dh, would I think of clipping in on dh ? No. Why ? Because at the skill level most riders that ride for fun don't even think of clipping in because it's pretty damn dangerous when you crash and your bike twists your leg behind you, and your knee blows out.

There is SOME logic to my comments. Obviously I worded it wrong. But still, why would someone clip in when they could get pedals like this and be virtually stuck on the pedals like clips. But it won't be half as dangerous if you crash.

You get me this time ?
  • - 53
 One more little tidbit.

Im also expressing MY OPINION, zomgwtfbbq the world is coming to an end a 16 year-old has an opinion!!

I am allowed to say what I want, about whoever/whatever I want. Seriously bro, cool your jets. I get called dumb for riding without gloves, do you think I give two shits ? Nope.

Just wait, one day someone will crash while clipped in racing dh and will blow their knee out so badly that they need surgery to fix it, because they were clipped in, and they couldn't unclip soon enough. It's happened to me already and I know it's not pretty, so I'm not wishing this on anyone. But seriously... Think about it.

Done here.
  • + 10
 not just about the grip, clips mean you can pull up on thr pedals too so more power and more speed
  • + 19
 The way clips are designed you cant twist your leg.... They release by twisting. Flats will never give you as much control of the bike as clips. Don't argue what you don't know.
  • + 4
 i would use those pedals
  • - 26
 shut up p-romano you don't know shit. you can go faster with clipless and you need a lot of balls cuz if you fall it will suck. and not so much control you cant post your leg threw a turn if you corner too fast which makes it easier to fall. or if your unbalanced after a hit you cant put your leg down to stabilize.
  • + 4
 See from my knowledge Bmxerch races at UCI level BMX, I think he knows what he's on about regarding his opinion despite age. I don't plan on running clips for dh and I doubt I will for 4x next year, these will probably be on my wish list
  • + 5
 I have used Spuds for nearly 20 years and they are still my first choice when I go downhilling. It's second nature for me to clip out when I need to - I have even used them for trials. But if a course or track is unpredictable due to mud or loose gravel then the flats will come out. Maybe riders are not setting up the tension correctly because they shouldn't be that tight that you are still clipped in after a big spill.
  • + 3
 i dont think i could ever run on clip-ons as i'm scared that i wont be able to put my foot out say round a slippery berm to stop myself from falling off. and man those pins are gunna eat your shins if you dont have protector!!
  • + 6
 Dont knock it till youve tried clips on dh... im sold on the idea. loads of power and just feels much more secure.. personal preferce though
  • + 1
 I'm thinking of running them for 4x next year because of the almost doubled power you get out of it, I just don't like the feel of being attached to the bike. I used to run clips on an xc bike and wasn't a huge fan other than it was much easier lol. For dh I like to be able to move my feet abit and be able to get on and off the pedals when I need to if things get scary. 4x is a different matter so expect to see them on my bike :L
  • + 9
 I think shoes make a bigger difference than pedals. I'd rather ride a shitty pair of pedals with my 5.10 Impacts than ride an awesome pair of flats in any other shoe.
  • + 1
 I'm gunna be runiing those shoes on wellgo mags by the end of the year so I'll see how that goes. At xmas or when I can afford it I'll be splashing on 5.10 Minaar SPD's and cCB Mallet 2 pedals. What's the sizing like with 5.10's? Like is an 11 in a 5.10 a 10 in a differen shoe kinda thing
  • + 1
 I prefer platforms for everything but xc, but I know free riders who clip and rock it. It is just about style. I actually preferred clipless until about two months ago. I had no habit of putting my foot down, but my cornering was lacking. Plats made jumps better and made it easier to pivot through tight corners. Of course now I put my foot down and I think it is a bad habit, but it is worth it for those tight corners. I've crashed and had my leg twisted by my clipless. They aren't fail proof. It's just a question of if you want the improved speed of pulling and pushing both on you pedals.
  • + 11
 Opinons are like assholes - everyone has one and some really stink.
  • + 1
 @mnorris: Hahaha. That is awesome! My buddies often fall over when coming to a stop. It would really suck on a road bike! I still like how even the power distribution of pedaling is though. Instead of power coming in two steady pulses it comes in a more constant drive.
  • + 7
 BMXerch, your one more tid bit should have been, "I dont ride my bike my parents bought for me, i harass people on pinkbike.com all day, im really cool."
  • + 1
 @ manchicken, they run true to size.
  • + 5
 Hankyman...he races uci bmx...
  • + 1
 They like "f*ck YO SHINS!"
  • + 1
 i think everyone agree, both have up and down and it's up to a personnal choice. it's like trying to know if vanilla ice cream is better than chocolate one.
  • + 1
 oh, by the way the pedals look sick (i prefer flat)
  • + 1
 haha oh, well atleast i had my turn as an internet hater
  • + 1
 Hankyman, I said earlier that he races UCI level BMX
  • + 1
 i guess i dont know what that means lol
  • + 1
 ill look it up
  • + 1
 lol - from my opinion the pro bmx world is being a little silly to put it lightly by realsing pro vids of riders shredding sans helmets - the least they should be worried about is some mtb'ers clipping in Smile lol
  • + 1
 Loved the Lo-Pro Mag2 pedals for quite some time, but wanted something lighter... 500g is a bit on the heavy side. Hopefully they can bring that down and I'll be right back on the bandwagon!
  • + 7
 back to the clipped/flats: 1. you can have your pedals set looser so you can still get the pull and stability while still being able to pop out with ease. (i know spd, not sure about crankbrothers). I ride everything clipped except dirt jump, unless im doing a random dirt jump on a cross country ride. If you set them right it shouldnt be a scary experience being clipped in. I can jump off my bike/over the handlebars while clipped. It really does save you more than anything - going through a gnar rock garden and not having your feet bounce around, and then being able to pedal on the upstroke going up a quick sprint or uphill. It seriously helps.

and 2. If you fall while clipped in or while on flats - it's gonna suck either way.
  • - 12
 I am seriously laughing my ass off at people trying to tell me what clipless pedals are for, and how to use them. Not all the time is it going through your mind that all you have to do is turn your leg. And with some crashes you just cant clip out fast enough. I also laugh at the neg props.

I RIDE THEM FOR A LIVING. I THINK I KNOW WHAT THEY DO AND HOW TO USE THEM. Facepalm

Seriously, you guys are hilarious. Full of high class logic. Not.

And to whoever says I don't ride my bike that my " parents " bought me, don't go there. I have a Factory Sponsorship, do you that means I don't have to pay for my bike ? I'm not saying that I got it for free, but I definitely payed for the bike myself. Another thing to know- I have an iPhone (I also pay for this, lol) which is why I seem to be on alot. I come on during breaks while riding my bikes.
  • + 1
 true Smile

good call angry nipples
  • + 7
 BMXerch, what your forgetting is that everyones opinion on here is a fact hence why you stated it was your opinion earlier on, yet they all chose to ignore that. Some people run clips, some people don't like you said it's personal preferance. You gotta love how people try and tell a World cup level rider is wrong with his opinion.
  • - 8
 LMFAO ANGRY NIPPLES. You're hilarious. No joke my day has been made already.

Manny I know, I just thinks it's a reaaaaaally dangerous choice that only people that can throw their bike and handle it like all the top WC racers should choose, you know what I mean ?
  • + 3
 'Holy shit Bryceland got 2nd on clips *orders clipless pedals and shoes*'
  • + 1
 it's definitely just a preference thing. I guess if it makes you have less confidence when riding - don't ride clipped. It works for me since I have a background with road biking then went to xc then dh then freeride and dj.
  • - 8
 Wait nvm I thought he was calling me angry nipples. Doh!

IMO is just a safety hazard for me. I mean I'm one of Canada's fastest kids to ride a BMX bike, I'm killer comfortable on clips for everything except Dj and Dh. Downhill is just too good for me I guess Razz
  • + 2
 Yeah like I said, its about being comfortable. If you are freaking yourself out while in clips, you aren't riding confidently so don't ride clipped. I feel safer in them than on flats so that's the reason I use them
  • + 5
 I always ride clipped in, from XC to DH nothing is more confidence inspiring than clipless pedals with good shoes like spd 5.10
The leg twisting theory is total bull****. Had a lot of crashes, pedals unclip 100% of the time, they are purpose built that way....
Just make sure you are not clipped in if you stop to talk with people, to avoid those humiliating slow falls on the side Big Grin
  • + 3
 new SPECIALIZED PEDALS look sick

cannot wait to rock some of those on my ALL-MTN bike Smile
  • + 3
 BMXerch you appear to have changed your tune - I appreaciate the new more freindly outlook/attidude and i take back my own failings in this area earlier - cheers and happy trails
  • + 1
 who ever shin bashes with these is f*cked Razz
  • + 1
 For me i have clipless and flat pedals, of course i use clipless for xc, and usually for all mountain, but for downhill, it really depends on the trial im riding
  • + 1
 real men would ride crupis!! haha
  • + 1
 lets go shred!
  • + 1
 I am happy with my dmr vaults! larger surface area and lighter!
  • + 1
 Vaults look good but are too thin in construction for the size of the pedal body, for high impact durability

this is typical of the Vault, some of DMR's team riders have suffered this style of failure - this problem also affects the new Blackspire flat pedal which uses a similar construction and size

www.pinkbike.com/photo/6597473
  • + 0
 mrhuckmyself www.pinkbike.com/photo/6768125

my photo same story, can't trust vaults! shame because every other dmr thing i've tried is brill, think maybe they're trying to be too competitive on weight and stuff, which unfortunately compromises the final quality of the product.
  • + 3
 lumberjack- Not changed my flow,just carefully changed up my wording. Salute
  • + 1
 Good enough for me dude - am going out for my dig today feeling all at ease with the world as a result - ceers Smile
  • + 2
 bmxerch referring to your reply to my comment close to the top of that nonsense. thats what i was getting at, you are virtually clipped in with pedals like that. but yeah good point about crashing i have yet to have something like that happen but on the other hand now i am so used to being clipped in i feel like i can pop out nearly just as fast but yeah, hahahahaa -23 props for me new record
  • + 2
 I ride with Time Atac Z's. Basically the best Bmx pedal ever. With that I use Sinz steel cleats, because they don't wear down, at all. I know some Xc, and road guys that do it too. they have an equal bitch of a time getting their feet out of the pedals as do I. And I'm no small, powerless kid, nor am I a noob Razz

That's why I'd say it's dangerous. You get these pro's who know what they're doing, then some jackass with a wallet bigger than his head decides to buy shoes and pedals, and breaks himself.

If I had as much precision with a Dh bike as I do my 4X and Bmx bikes, I'd be all for it. But you never know.
  • + 0
 ^was the story necessary? but seriously why do people point out the flaws or compare these pedals to other pedals or clip pedals? just comment your opinion and carry on with ur life, it really isnt necessary
  • + 1
 that's part of discussing the pedals isn't it, comparing them to others...
  • + 1
 okay that part i agree was stupid to put in, but pointing out the flaws is kinda stupid thats why there called "prototype"
  • + 1
 if you dont point out the flaws of a prototype you wouldnt notice it before it went to manufacture - or am i just being bitchy Smile - was down at wisley a little while ago and forgot to change my clips out - still rode - but way to sketchy for my liking!
  • + 1
 Goonage ?

And dude, it wasnt a story. I'm just saying that with Time Pedals and Steel replacement cleats that it's a major pain compared to brass cleats to clip our, cool your jets.

Lumberjack also nailed it on the head. tup it wouldnt be called " prototype " if it was flawaless
  • + 2
 awww - i feel warm and cuddly indside Smile lol - cheers bmxerch Smile
  • + 2
 seriously - no scarcasm - its nice that we've collectively returned to friendly forum Smile
  • + 3
 lol

Salute

I just need to watch how I word things I guess. First comment got +175 because it was nicely worded, everything else was tanked lol
  • + 1
 yeah lol - we're a soft and sensitive bunch!! i always thought being mtb'ers meant we should be rough and tough! Wink lol
  • + 1
 why cant we all just be friends here?
  • + 1
 we always end as friends and thats whats imporatant - lol - but due to strong chracters and opinions of bikers its likely to always start with an argument!
  • + 3
 You're garbage. Go make me a better pedal, then.
  • + 1
 i need new pedals so ill be the firt to volunteer to proto it!! hehe
  • + 0
 @Bmxerch lol thanks. but look at them, they look like sh*t
  • + 2
 They look nice. Unless you can make something better, take a seat. Stupid armchair engineers.
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  • + 23
 they scare my shins...
  • + 1
 Ya those things are spiky
  • + 1
 Definitely lethal ! Seems like they are gonna crack and rip even the best shin guard,
  • + 0
 Nah I had a pair of Haro Big Block Magnesium. I have places on my shins where the hair won't grow from those things. These look a lot less damaging!
  • + 6
 when your pins are that long, you dont have to worry about coming off of the pedals at all.
  • + 1
 but still.....
  • + 1
 if your feet do slip and you dont have pads, be prepared to go to the hopsital
  • + 1
 i needed to once for pedal bite lol
  • + 1
 ^f*ck that!!
  • + 1
 I wanna get a set of grippy as pedals for 4x, I just don't trust myself not to gouge my shins to peices seen as I won't be wearing knee pads. Don't want it up the back of your thigh when you have one of those awquard 'the bike stays with you' crashes
  • + 1
 if you slip them, they will rip into your bones and flesh giving a optimum of grip so you can continue to win worldcups Razz
  • + 1
 Same idea as dirt jumping will pedal clips! Haha
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  • + 6
 If they perform as well as they look,then Specialized may be onto a winner with these babies. Lets wait and see until us mear mortals get our grubby mitts on them, hopefully a tad lighter. Then I reckon they should sell like hot cakes...
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  • + 6
 it says the height is measured from the middle as opposed to the sides, yet they are concave so they middle bit is the shortest part. They should measure fomr the outside like "some others do".
  • + 0
 "these don't make use of a threaded nut at their outer end to attach them to the pedal body. This means that the axle uses a smooth, tapered design all the way to the end, making it much stronger than an axle with threads cut into the end of it"
my BS detector went off several time reading the article.. like 5mm of tread at the end of the axle makes it weaker.
the same with the measurement of thickness and the bad mouthing of DU bushings. one long Specialized ad, PB please don´t act like a direct extension of the Specialized marketing deparment.
Im also a bit worried that the only thing holding the needlebearings inline with the body i the hinge and the small spike. when loaded from the hinge side, all the stress is concentrated on the hinge itself. i could be wrong, (i proberly am, im pretty sure Specialized have made lots of IRL and FEA tests), but without a picture of the internals it hard to say for sure.

besides that, after getting rid of my vile, i think that they are really cool. sure looks like 2011/2012 is gonna be the year of the platform pedal, about time! Wink
  • + 2
 Du eh so skeptish, du thoh att du vjet so myke - ikke ikke!!! cheeh up och allt kommeh bli bhaa, Kameloso Big Grin


They just made their own solution for common problem of all super thin pedals: no fkn place for a good bearing. So not much BS involved, there is simply no good solution right now, and probably we will never see one - super thin platform is great for rock clearance and most of all - for pedalling, but be prepared to face the trade offs
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  • + 8
 those would look sick on my sx
  • + 33
 they would look sick on most bikes...
  • + 2
 everyone should want them!
  • + 7
 dude thoose pins to your shin n thad be some serious carnage!
  • + 3
 straitlines > everything else.
  • + 2
 I run 7mm pins with fivetens and theyre fucking wicked.
  • + 1
 Why is there a pin in the middle?


Weight: 510 grams per set Eek
  • + 2
 Those would destroy Ur shins but still very nice
  • + 1
 looks good to me, pins are not that much, i were running 11mm pins though the winter, best that about big pins is your feet never come off, so i never got a shin burger!, big pins = no slip = no shin burgers
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  • + 7
 8mm is thicker than the soles on my vans.
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  • + 3
 why not just go ahead and buy some dmr v12 magnesium's that are lighter and simole. so what if their 2mm thicker or something. i just dont see anything special that this brings to the market. we should concentrate on making things lighter and more simplistic.
  • + 0
 good point - though the vualts have improved in my opinion by adding a larger platform - therefore more pins and support therefore more grip but you cant deny dmr's crown for the flat world - reliabilty doesnt quite sum it up properly!! - i still use my v12's daily - mostly cuase i cant afford vaults lol - that said those dj boys like the smaller pplatforms and less grip - im gibbering - dmr rules!!
  • + 1
 Just got some DMR Vaults. They are lighter, stronger and have a larger surface area than these. If you want some of the best platform pedals that look sick and are arguably the best get DMR Vaults.
  • + 1
 dmr ftw. what a sick product.
  • + 1
 just in case - i put my wallet where my mouth is and green vaults are on order! im happy - debit card is feeling a little dpressed though lol
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  • + 1
 Cool & beefy looking pedals with great ideas integrated into them. Seems like a lot of engineering and additionnal parts just to thin them down to 10mm though.
SQUARE PINS looks to be DA SHIZZZ. You get grip on potentially 8 edges.

Let's face it, a pedal won't revolutionnize the Industry but I gotta call good job on this one.
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  • + 3
 Just need some shoes that will survive a season with these, my 510's ran away on their own as soon as I said I wanted a set of these pedals.
  • + 1
 Not really a problem. Twenty6 uses very spiky pins that sharpen on rock hits and eventually look like razors and my 5.10s are nice. My calves on the other hand are not.
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  • + 1
 would be nice to see a knurled surface, or even bead blasted. in my experience its the surface of the pedal that is most important for grip. Ive had some cheap ass welgo pedals with small broken pins that have griped a LOT better than my other expensive pedals with a polished anodized surface an longer pins
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  • + 1
 I don't like how the pins go thru the back side I have some point 1 pedals and the always bend then I have to saw them off or else they break off inside the pedal and have to re-drill and tap them and it's a huge pain in the ass
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  • + 1
 These pedals are sick regardless. If you go clipped in thats your decision if u run flats thays your decision plain and simple everyone is entitled to that! Altho my shins might be cringing if i slapped a pair of these bad boys on my bike. In my opinion these will be goOd pedals because of the 8mm pins to me that means more grip for shreddin dh/fr
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  • + 1
 I'd like to add that specialized is know for making the ugliest pedals on the market... congradulations specialized, you have made a very nice looking pedal, finally!!! If i was given a pair, i would run them on bike hands down, just wouldn't pay for them
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  • + 1
 Forget shin pads those pins going to shred your shoes to pieces. The pins is the only thing specialized got right with these pedals. 510g is stupid heavy, then they going to charge a grip for these. i guess they can't be thin and light and have huge pins. That would be too good of a pedal for us to use.
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  • + 1
 Do they give you a narrower stance since they lack the flat wrenching section or is it the same, just with a bearing taking up that space? They look sweet. I'd love a pair when the price comes down in a few years (They will be out of my range though they will be undoubtedly worth it).
  • + 2
 The stance is about the same as other common pedals.
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 bring on the hate, clips suck!!! you cant change pedal position, i hate side to side movement and with clips, you have planty of that, when i ride, i change pedal position riding, more forward when cranking and back a little when cornering pumping, and jumping, why would i want to limit the feel of the bike when riding just so my feet wont come off the pedals? if you have a problem with your feet coming off your pedals, you (a.) suck at riding, (b,) have the wrong shoe and pedal combo, (c,) your an idiot, (d.) pedals are worn out (e.) your riding in the wrong pedal position (f.) your not balanced on your bike correctly for the section.

truth is, (A) you do have an advantage in rockgardens with clips because your feet wont slip off, but you dont get the same balance with being able to change position through your feet to balance if you getting sketchy. (B) when pealing you say you have more power cause you can pull at the same time as push, this may be true, but pedaling up hill and downhill and on flat surface you are stuck in the same pedal position you cant adjust like on flat and get over the ball of your foot or whatever you fancy, no ridier imput for the terrain.

so ride clips if you want, but if you really want the advantage of the feel of your bike, flats are the way to go.!!!
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 in my opinion the lo pro mags were some of the best pedals ever made and i run them on both my bikes. i was going to replace the ones on my dirt jumper but now im thinking i swap the ones from my downhill to my dirt jumper and get a set of these when they come out for my dh. I like the square pegs more than the spikes. not only because they are knee rapers but i would assume less pressure on the sole of your foot and a comparable amount of grip. these have to better than the lo pro mags with all this new engineering and will definitely be purchasing a set.
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 anybody else thought about the bearing life? with such a short axle all the stresses from the pedal body, especially the edges, is gonna be tranferred straight into those tiny needle bearings and the single bearing on the inside at huge force, the bearings are gonna be destroyed! so they've made a very skinny pedal, how does having a skinny pedal actually improve anything? some would say weight, but these are heavier than a lot of fatter bodied pedals. i'm not taken with them.
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 Yes, I thought about the bearing life when I designed them.
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 Take apart a few pedals and look up the load rating on skf.com You will find that these needle bearings have about the highest load rating out there.
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 hey dude, wheres your shin? oh f**k i left it on my pedal again
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 Do those trap door things have seals on them or something? If not, it seems like you would get crap in the bearings if you ride in aany mud.
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 Yes, of course they are sealed.
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 How do they open and close? Any risk a rock will open them up?
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 As far as one can tell form a picture, I would guess that it has a dedicated pin/bolt, that holds it tight to the pedal body. Probably you would have to hit it really hard to make them open. But these are only my two cents.
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 It's virtually impossible to open up the bearing housing accidentally.
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 never say never my friend.
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 @jason-at-specialized, what size platform are they? im after the biggest pedals i can find, biggest ive found so far is 115 x 115mm
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 They are about the same size as most other common pedals out there. They are NOT super big like you want, sorry.
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 fair enough, cheers for the info. might still end up getting some if theyre still gonna be ano red Smile
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 They won't sell many here in Aus. At any race in this country, the trailers have crank arm holders that those pedals will not fit into, due to the lack of access to the axle.
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 am i the only one that noticed there are two pin optins.... it also looks like you can back off the pins but yes shin protection sounds good
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 I imagine a bad fit of my foot.. then a muddy downhill.. then my foot sliding out of the pedal.. and the thing hitting in my leg.. :S OUCH!
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 The best thing about these is that they double as lawn aerators. My bike and lawn will never look better...
...but my shins will never look worse! Razz
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 Those 8mm spikes are gonna be needed to keep you on your bike while the world is ending! They couldn't come out at a better time.
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 Those pins look smashing. I heard that the Specialized guys used them once to fight off a band of bike thieves
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 I love the SPIKES! I ONLY BUY PEDALS THAT HAVE GNARLY SPIKES, I hope their included. I cant wait and I will be giving specialized my feedback~!
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 You know, I ran cheap odyssey pedals on some pretty knarly stuff and my feet weren't slipping, I mean, I wouldn't run these for DJ but for DH/FR I think they'll work great.
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 Also, has anyone noticed the bit about the shorter square pins that are apparently testing better?
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 How many times have you actually taken a pedal in the shin while downhilling? *knock wood* I can't remember the last time.
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 Just jinxed yourself....
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 I do it loads , but very rarely when i'm acually riding , I seem to clout them when i'm pushing back up !
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 ive currently got a 2 inch long, half inch wide channel in my leg from last time i came off, tho it was going downhill on a road, i locked my front tyre, washed out and next thing i know im bleeding from my arm and leg haha
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 my mates also got a 4 inch long one on his shin from earlier this year
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 To the shin? Nope but to the calves? Many many times. Im currently running twenty6 preruners(similar idea with pointy pins) and my legs look like I was sharpening knives on them.
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 i had a very bad case last year, luckily i had short pins back then, it left a deep ass wound in my leg, im sure if i had these 8mm pins it wouldve left me with some serious muscular damage n flesh wound kicking me out of game for several months, i do not like that pins and i will not buy em for that reason.
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 I have not bothered to read any of the post above. They are sexy pedals but 510 grams. A bit much. But very sexy
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 When are they going to be available!!!! I want them for Christmas! We have waited too long we want them NOW!
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 haha, buy these they're grippy ! (side effects include f*ckING UP UR SHINS !!!!!!)
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 Yah, I saw these on Sam Hill's Bike at Windham. They looked sick and I want to get me a pair of them.
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 these make my straitlines look like childs play. my shins are gonna love em
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 weight is quite a bit for such a thin pedal.i'd like to see a mag body with ti axle.
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 Mag pedals are usually cast and generally chunky. The only way to get it this thin is to use cold forged 7075, which is many times stronger than cast Mag. I will find other ways to make an XC version that is lighter.
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 Beautiful design, though. I must say it.
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 Ya I've cracked two sets of wellgo mags. Mag is so brittle in my experience I would never buy another pedal made with it
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 I imagine the outboard bearing isn't exactly light as well. It says the production pedal might be lighter also.
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 I've ruined 2 pairs of Wellgo MG1 and am busy ruining my 3rd set of MG1

also ruined a very expensive set of Syncros Mental Magnesium pedals very quickly

not buying Mg pedals ever again!!!

looking at Superstar Nano Tech as they are cheap £45 and have great reviews, and are the same pedal as Kona Wah-Wah and Nukeproof but without the high price tag Wink
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 The specialized pedals that came with my bike lasted 7 years with no maintenance, so we know they'll last.
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 i wanna pair...? whats up with the silver plate in the middle of the pedal....?
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 I want to see inside the trapdoor!
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 MOOOOAAAARRR!!! I might ride a Santa Cruz V10 - but those pedals will be on the bike in 2012 for sure
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 those pins are going to destroy shins
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 Sweet all pedals should be dual concave.
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 mother of god those pins are monstrous.
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 pedal bite from this would probably kill you
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 Yea!! I am going to get me a pair..When I get some money???
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 Thin pedals look sooo sick, long pins look painful I may have to look into these when they come out
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 those pin will make you sick!
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 510 g thats so heavy.But i have to say that they are pretty enough
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 with the spikes on that, it looks like a weapon more than pedals....
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 I want these. any word on a release date?
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 Any more info on the release date yet? I've been waiting out for these.
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 I think they look good.
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 goodbye burgetc...HELLO SPECIALIZED!
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 those pedals + five ten impact = epicness!
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 THOSE ARE RAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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 looking at my shins im F*cked getting these haha! nice pedals though
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 SHIN DIG!! them pins look like there going to hurt
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 Too heavy - I was excited about this - not any more Frown
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 Sometimes performance adds weight. A rigid fork would be lighter too.

What pedals are you running currently?
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 superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=127

I'm not here to argue, but you give a ridiculous example.
Saving 100 grams here and there on bits and pieces, make sa big difference when the full bike is built.
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 I should also comment, that mine's been going strong for 2 years, in wet UK conditions ... and my pedals never slip with my 5.10s on
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 Those are nice pedals, especially for the price. Sounds like you've found something that works for you.

They are about 60 gms lighter than the Specialized, as it stands right now. The design is not final yet, and it would only get lighter from here.

There are a lot less open holes on the Specialized pedal. We did this to reduce pockets where mud could collect. We also left smooth surfaces on the outside to defect loam and chunder.

I could easily drop 50+ grams with more CNC and more holes, we just chose not to do that for the above reasons.
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 I havn't found a pedal yet, that 5.10s slip on, so your example isn't exactly the best either IMO.
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 I also qualified my statement by stating that it's been running true for 2 years, in conditions that are usually rather wet and muddy.

Either way.. arguing on Pinkbike is pointless, I was amped to get these pedals as the colour I have do not match my new bike, but I will look at other offerings such as the spank Spike... or just rebuy a pair of Superstars.

/me out
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 all i can say is, im buyin em.
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 slobikerider, LOL, that is so true.
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 ripping the skin off ur legs
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 those pedals are pointless if you would use them in skatepark
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 They're not designed to be used in a skatepark, clever clogs.
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 i fucking need them pedals!! they are lush
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 i so want a pair they would be awsome for my current build
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 Jason - missed your post above, apols.
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 "The Hellraiser pedal" would be an appropriate name for them.
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 sooo those pins.... im ok with all the skin on my shins for the moment
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 "Weight: 510 grams per set (production version could be lighter)" - I sure hope so. That's heavy as hell.
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 Thats about mid pack in weight for DH pedals.
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 Is the weight really that much of an issue? surely you can make up for the extra 50 or so grames by just getting of the brakes and trying harder?
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 my old Bontrager Big Earls were over 800 grams
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 But then you gotta think, do I sacrifice a little bit of weight for the masses of extra grip? The benefits of parts like this cancell out any weight increase, or they might aswell. You weight weenies bug me
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 the reason i went for the big earls is for one ive got size 16 feet, and i like very grippy pedal. they were huge platform with 16 long pins per side. i never slipped with them, tho i hate to think what woulda happened if i had
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 kinda heavy...other brand come in at 265grams....
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 what pedal weighs 265?
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 Twenty6 with Ti axle. And they look good! But how solid? No clue. Yet Big Grin
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 Blackspire sub3 pedals are 270g. Not as thin, but super light. Not sure about durability in comparison.
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 Not really. 2011 twenty6 are heavier than the 2010.
Though they are probably still the lightest alu platform (not mag one rock hit) pedals. Well that or resets.
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 I don't really consider these pedals in the same category. Ti spindles simple are not as strong. Neither are aluminum pins. Blackspire is even nice enough to tell you that the sub3 are not suitable for DH.
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 My buddy broke a Ti spindle on his twenty6 pedal landing off a small booter, he is a semi large guy +/-230lb. He does do a bit of big jumping so maybe fatigue was a factor, but watching him shear the axle right off the crank made me think twice about wanting to ever get a titanium spindle pedal.
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 Seriously, weight isn't the end all be all of what is good and what is not. Would I like to have those a little lighter? Absolutely, but if that can't happen, the the strength and shape of the pedal is more important to me. I like the twenty6 pedals, but I've heard nothing but negatives from people who like to clip rocks and land flat like I do. just by looks alone, it seems way less likely for this issues to be a problem on these pedals. I bet you crazy people ride super thin tubes as well, to same a few grams.
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 Again - 2011s are STRONGER and HEAVIER - twenty6 that is.
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 Stylish and groundbreaking - can't beat a beautiful combo like that.
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 I gotta have em! Pinkbike send me a pair in white Smile
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 Those pins will breake of like nothing Big Grin
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 those would be sooooo sick
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 Can't feel my legs
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 gotta love shin guards
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 i like these nuff said.
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 hummis is bean poop!!!!
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 they look mean! :O
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 Do they come in blue?
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 Not yet obviously. Hence the word, P R O T O T Y P E.
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 If they do, would they compliment your tiara better, @specrider?
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 White for sure, so you can tell how much blood and bone you have left on the pedal.
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 We have been experimenting with 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 mm pins. Most of the photos are the 8 mm ones - crazy I know. We made them custom for the Monster team to try. 5mm seems to be the sweet spot for mortals. World Cup guys are liking 6 and 7 better.
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 @jason-at-specialized, it's very cool to see feedback and info in here from you, the guy who actually designed the pedals featured above! I like seeing what the WC guys are running, but I'm thinking that I, along with a lot of others, would be better with the shorter pins. I like the sounds of being able to fine tune the pin height with washers as well.

Do you plan on maybe selling aftermarket kits for different lengths that would allow riders to experiment a bit?
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 I tried 3 different pin types and lengths with 5.10 shoes, and I found that long pins just make my foot completely cemented to the pedal, and I switched from SPDs just to have more freedom of foot movement. Now I run 3mm diameter pins with only 2-3mm sticking out of the platform and it feels perfect. I would love these pedals with these short squared pins.
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 @spiffy We will inlude a selection of pins and washers so you can find the set up that works best for you.
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 Just wanted to second what spiffy said. I very much appreciate having the designer of the product answer questions directly. Part of me is an engineering nerd, so I enjoy the insight into the design process, the consumer part of me appreciates the genuine interest in communicating with the customer. The pinkbike part of me appreciates that you are shutting up the commenters who only have negativity or off-topic crap, like the whole spd/flats debate at the top.

Your pedals look sweet, I think I'll try 'em out when they become available.
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 Loads of pedals have a hex attachment?
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 But not as many have JUST a hex attatchment. Superstar is the only one I actually know that only has hex attatchment but I don't look at pedals much
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 My Superstar Components pedals have nothing but a hex key attachment. These aren't the first pedals to have this feature. Jussayin'
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 How grippy are the superstar pedals? I'm thinking of getting a set. (I know it's off topic but the oppurtunity to ask is there)
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 Mine are super grippy, I have the ignite pedals (weird X shaped ones) and I only run 4 pins in each side because they were too grippy for me with all the pins in. I ride dirt jumps and light DH mostly btw.
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 The Nano Techs are awesome, best pedals around for the money
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 i've got some wellgo b-38 pedals (basically cheap copies of shimano DX), and i prefer them to every pedal i've ever ridden, even v12s. theyre not too heavy, insanely grippy, fairly slim, and sub £30 a pair. best pedals for the money? its gotta be those. oh, and sealed bearings. no contest. sure theyre wellgos, but honestly, who cares? if it works it works
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 Hex shaped axle attachment, best thing in a long time. Got them on my twenty6, such a good idea.
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 +1 for Superstar Nano Techs, mine are awesome, I used to have V8s but they felt too small for my foot (my feet aren't even very big) and I sometimes had aching feet after a long stretch of rough DH but the Techs are sooo comfy and super grippy, especially when hanging off the back of the bike.
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