2011 Devinci Wilson - Weagle Talks
Devinci debuted their brand new 2011 Wilson downhill bike at Interbike's Outdoor Demo today and it was attracting an incredible amount of attention. We caught up with the bike's designer, Dave Weagle, to give us the lowdown on the Split Pivot equipped Canadian speed machine.
Inside you can watch and learn as Dave gives you a video tour of the new bike!
*Wilson Geometry Chart has been updated*
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Put on your learning hat and let Dave Weagle give you a tour of the new 2011 Devinci Wilson and it's Split Pivot suspension
Watch the promo video below to see the new Wilson getting sideways!
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Looking for more info about the Split Pivot system? Check out the Split Pivot website to have your questions answered.
Visit the Devinci website to see their entire lineup.
It looks like the 2011 Wilson is set to be added to the long list of great Canadian exports such as maple syrup, Canadian bacon, and Wayne Gretzky. With dialed geometry and the Split Pivot suspension platform, I can see Devinci's new downhill bike being a winner right out of the gate. Cue the internet armchair engineers, lets hear your thoughts on the new bike below!
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Inside you can watch and learn as Dave gives you a video tour of the new bike!
*Wilson Geometry Chart has been updated*
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Hope you like 'em curvy! The 2011 Devinci Wilson has been designed by Dave Weagle and uses his patented Split Pivot suspension combined with a high main pivot and a concentric rocker link to activate the shock. The new bike also incorporates adjustable geometry that will let you tailor the ride to your needs. There has been a fair bit of excitement about the new Wilson and it looks like it may be fully justified.
Looking for more info about the Split Pivot system? Check out the Split Pivot website to have your questions answered.
Visit the Devinci website to see their entire lineup.
It looks like the 2011 Wilson is set to be added to the long list of great Canadian exports such as maple syrup, Canadian bacon, and Wayne Gretzky. With dialed geometry and the Split Pivot suspension platform, I can see Devinci's new downhill bike being a winner right out of the gate. Cue the internet armchair engineers, lets hear your thoughts on the new bike below!
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Just using a few good bikes to make one seemingly "amazing" bike. But only the WC Circuit will prove it. Even then, who knows.
I am sure if you had the cash you'd do the same for the Akuma (after of course redesigning it, so people would buy it
Yep - it is a single pivot - but f*ck, Tim, you of all people know that that is like saying a bike is a four bar - there are good four bar and shit four bar.
oh yeah, and Gavind, design (and actually make) your own frames then talk shit to me.
this is easily one of the "hottest" DH racing frames for 2011 alongside the new 2011 Specialized Demo 8
the new Wilson?
it *might* look (visually) like another DH frame, or parts of 2 different DH frames, but the Wilson SP is its own beast, without a doubt...if you examine the work that has gone into this design, and the suspension design and features
DW told my boss (UK Devinci importer - Freeborn Bikes) directly at Interbike (Las Vegas) yesterday that its the first frame he has worked on, where he was been directly involved in the entire frame design / manufacturing and has thoroughly enjoyed riding, testing and shock tuning the new Wilson SP frame
for those of you who don't know, on many previous frames DW has been involved with, he has not been 100% involved in all the elements, apart from providing "suspension kinematics" which means someone else has designed the physical packaging of the frame, and some factory in Taiwan has built the frame with sometimes dubious quality control (think of Iron Horse and the Sunday DW)
with Devinci's in-house production facility in Quebec, Canada; he has been directly involved in the design and manufacturing process, rather than sending emails off to some guy at the bike company, who then emails some guy at the factory in Taiwan
can't wait to get a Wilson SP to test ride, and to send if off to Dirt Mag here in the UK for a proper test from riders / testers who know what they are talking about
Innovative? Not as much.
This is practically a combination of the core strengths of sunn and trek. Even then, unless you're riding the WC circuit I doubt you'd actually notice the difference over something like an Orange 225 or anything simple like that. A lot of it is marketing hype. That video milks it sooooo hard.
But I still respect his work, he has made some amazing bikes.
Just my
I admire Dave all the way for the "making it happen, making it work" factor. There's too many homegrown geniuses with their "groundbreaking inventions" who lack that. Done this five years ago, done that, should have would have could have bla bla bla
He made it, you can even touch it
If it was a big company you are speculating, then I wouldn't say anything, but this is a one great guy and it's quite sad to read that.
Patenting works in a similar way, the difference is: you pay for patent, for establishing it and for holding it! Imagine a single "inventor" with not much financial backup (comparing to a big company) paying annual fees for patents covering products he struggles to sell in the beginning.
In theory: what you do is you create a big buzz around it by for example presenting articles. In practice more buzz you do more crap can someone throw at you and you can loose your credibility before you "make it happen". The same guys throwing crap at you might actualy use some of your work and present as theirs.
So to sum up guys like Dave do care
Trouble is: not always this external idea is just an inspiration, there might be some big thought/process behind it so it works. If you want to use it for your work then you need to do it according to all copyrighting/patenting procedures. That is a time, sometimes money taking process, and if you are more powerful than that idea giver (more cunning, more money, more contacts, more public credibility), it is very tempting to call it yours all the way.
If treck really did have the idea first I'm sure they would have been trying to file for a pattent as well. Your wife may be in a sticky spot as a low capitol research based spot (assuming from the fact shes workin on her PhD. But for most every other company, getting and holding a pattent is goal #1 of every new design.
I do know a thing or two about pattents, these days obtaining a US pattent is a skill all onto itself with major companies having specific pattent lawyers working for them.
On the other side of the coin, in my opinion, a lot of patents shouldn't be awarded. The DW link is about a hundred years old. It's a double wishbone as used in all quality suspension systems on cars. What have they awarded DW a patent for it when companies were making cars with it before he was a twinkle in his daddy's eye?
Where would we all be if a Greek bloke had patented the wheel?
My father had a pretty bad experience trying to file a patent last year. Threw about ten thousand quid at it and on the second round of investigation a year later discovered something similar already existed in France. All that money and time down the drain because of the lawyer's incompetent research. That doesn't happen to the likes of Trek.
And usualy if something looks that good it is good, not much weirdos work well. Perhaps only Specialized has "a license" for well working weirdos.
Dave some AM bada*s bike please!
the last wilson could have been the worst mountain bike ever designed, anybody who's ever worked on the rear end of one has to agree. everone else has no right to comment.
this one is right up there with all the good ones
but to argue about it being a single pivot is kinda bullshit
sure, it is by the previous definitions of a single pivot
but that was before anybody (dave weagle) thought of putting a pivot right on the rear axle. almost too sensible
and to whomever wrote its no better than an orange 224?
yeah right, that bike was always a turd. but peaty could still win on it
just like he could win on this, or a supercycle if they built a dh bike.
stupid statement
are you really trying to blame his short chainstay for him falling over at the worlds?
that takes the cake and you might be retarded
other than that it looks good. always nice to see companies change it up
je suis fiere d'etre avec vous...from Chicoutimi..
but really nice
As for the bike, looks sick - Good to see all the weight being central and low.
They rave about pedaling performance, yet not once do you see the rider pedal in their promotional video! Great job of "Promoting" that pedaling efficiency!
This is going to be most improved bike of the decade.
How much does it weigh??, does it come with the custom shock on it??
Will Devinci finally be available in the States now?