Pinkbike Product Picks

Jan 3, 2014 at 15:03
by Mike Kazimer  
Geigerrig Rig 710 Pack

Basted in Ogden, Utah, Geigerrig offers a full line of hydration packs that feature a bladder that can be pressurized, eliminating the need to suck from a bite valve. This bladder (or 'engine' as Geigerrig call it), has a secondary air chamber that can be inflated with a bulb that sits on the pack's shoulder strap. 15-20 squeezes on the bulb, which resembles what is used on a blood pressure cuff, and the bladder will be pressurized, and slightly biting or squeezing on the valve will deliver water wherever it is needed. Our review pack was the Rig 710, which is constructed from 840 ballistic nylon and can carry up to 700 cubic inches of gear along with 70oz of water. The Rig 710 is chock full of pockets and compartments, with two main gear storage areas, one of which has a pump sleeve and a zippered mesh pocket along with a key clip. There's also a small zippered pocket at the top of the pack that would easily hold a phone and a wallet. An external sleeve with cinch straps could be used to carry an extra layer or knee pads, and there's even a raincover that's stored in a zippered pocket at the bottom of the pack. Colors: black, blue, gunmetal, citrus. MSRP: $185 USD. www.geigerrig.com

Geigerrig Rig 710 Review
The Rig 710's construction is top notch, but the bladder itself and the concept of pressurized water didn't win us over.

Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesWhen we first heard about the concept of a pressurized hydration bladder we were a little skeptical. Traditional hydration bladders are about as simple as it gets, and if you can drink out of a straw you can probably figure them out. Still, it's good to keep an open mind, so we filled up the Rig 710's bladder, squeezed the bulb 20 times and hit the trails. The bladder does work as advertised, quickly delivering a steady stream of water when just a slight amount of pressure is applied on the bite valve. However, we had trouble appreciating the pressurized water due to the horrid chemical taste that it delivered. The bladder is touted as being BPA, PVC, and phthalate free, but apparently that's not enough to get rid of the extremely bitter taste that flavored any water we put into it. Even after a thorough cleaning the plasticy flavor still lingered, and we weren't ever able to get the bladder to be completely taste-free. Plus, inflating the bladder took up a good portion of the storage space in the main compartment, storage space that we would have liked to use for all the layers necessary for winter riding. After struggling to come to terms with the bladder and its inflation bulb for a few rides, we ended up swapping it out with a competitor's 100oz bladder so we could continue testing the pack itself without dealing with the 'engine.'

Stripped of its pressurized bladder, the Rig 710 ended up being extremely comfortable, and the well designed back panel and hip strap kept the pack stable on the roughest trails. The construction quality is excellent, and there were no blown zippers, rips or tears despite numerous long rides with the pack stuffed to capacity. The rain cover saw usage too, and served its purpose by keeping the pack dry during rainy winter days. It would have been nice if the outer cinch straps used two piece buckles, a design change that would allow the pack to carry a full face helmet.

In the end, the Rig 710 didn't sell us on the benefits of pressurized water. It's a novel idea, and it is convenient for cyclists that ride with a dog, or need to spray an annoying riding buddy in the face, but the extra complication it adds to a simple concept doesn't seem necessary. The pack itself is a keeper, and it's certainly going to see more usage in the months to come, but without the pressurized bladder. - Mike Kazimer




e*thirteen TRSr Cranks

With all-mountain riding and enduro racing continuing to increase in popularity, e*thirteen chose to create a line of components designed specifically for this usage. The TRSr series (TRS stands for Trail Security, the 'r' is for Race) includes cranks, pedals, wheels, and chainguides intended to be enduro race worthy. The TRSr crankset is constructed from forged and machined aluminum, and utilizes a spiderless chain ring design, with double and single configurations available. We ran our review set with a 34 tooth version of e*thirteen's Guidering, their take on the increasingly popular narrow-wide chainring design. What sets the TRS cranks apart from others on the market is e*thirteen's P3 Connect Polygon interface. Instead of a spline system at the end of the spindle, there is a rounded triangle shape that allows the spindle to be in complete contact with the surface of the crankarm. This does mean that the cranks do need a specially designed bottom bracket to accommodate the 30mm diameter of the spindle, but e*thirteen offers bottom brackets for all of the current options on the market – threaded, BB92, PF30, and BB30. Weight: 175mm cranks with 34t Guidering: 596g. PF30 BB: 129g. MSRP: $369 USD (crank with single ring, no BB). bythehive.com/e-thirteen

e thirteen TRSr crank review
The TRSr cranks use a 30mm spindle with a polygon shape at the end, a design intended to increase strength and reliability at the crank arm and spindle junction.

Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesPrevious versions of e*thirteen's cranksets had a reputation for being finicky to set up, but this has been addressed, and installation of the TRSr is now as simple as pushing the drive side crankarm spindle through the bottom bracket, tightening the non-drive side arm until it bottoms out, and then adjusting the preload ring by hand to remove any remaining play. The PF30 bottom bracket is unique in that it has an aluminum threaded sleeve that joins the assembly together, rather than the more common plastic tube that sits between the bearings and around the spindle. Proprietary tools are required to install the bottom bracket and chainrings, but these are included with the crankset.

We ran the TRSr cranks for a good portion of the season, and they shrugged off everything that was thrown at them. Drops, jumps, mashing on the pedals during steep climbs - the cranks were plenty stiff to handle it all, and they survived a few solid encounters with stumps and rocks as well. The bearings are still running smoothly, even after miles of every type of trail condition from dust to mud. As an added bonus, before installing e*thirteen's threaded PF30 bottom bracket we'd been struggling to eliminate the creaking from a stock bottom bracket we'd been running, but when the new bottom bracket was installed the creaking vanished. This is likely because the threaded design decreases the potential for the bottom bracket to move or shift under load. We also had good luck with the redesigned preload ring (previous versions had a tendency to loosen up), and it stayed in place for the duration of our testing. The one chink in the TRSr's armor is the price - $369 without a bottom bracket is on the higher end of the spectrum, especially when there are lighter carbon cranks that retail for less. Still, carbon cranks aren't for everyone, and the TRSr cranks are a good option for the rider who's looking for a light and stiff aluminum crankset that differs slightly from the norm. - Mike Kazimer




Specialized LoDown Gloves

Specialized's LoDown is about as bare bones as you can get, a simple, pull on glove with no velcro closures or extra padding to be found. The palm of the glove uses what Specialized calls 'Lifeline Construction.' One piece of Clarino fabric is used for the four fingers, and another is sewn in for the thumb, with the seam mimicking the path of the lifeline, the spot where the base of the thumb meets the palm. This is meant to prevent the fabric from bunching when the hand is curled around a handlebar. There are silicone stripes on the fingers and thumb of the glove for improved grip on brakes and shifters, and a soft swatch of fabric is located on the top of the thumb for mucus management. Sizes: S-XXL. Colors: Hyper Green, Black/Carbon, Black/Neon Blue, Green/Carbon. MSRP: $25 USD. www.specialized.com

Specialized Lodown glove review
Specialized's LoDown gloves turned out to be comfortable and durable, a winning combination.

Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesWe prefer gloves that are as thin as possible, with least amount of material between our hands and the grips. The problems is, this style of glove can often seem like a disposable item, disintegrating well before we're ready to part ways with them. Luckily, the LoDown doesn't fall into the disposable category, and it's outlasted a number of other pairs of gloves. We've ridden hundreds of miles with them, including a few crashes and some time spent dragging deadfall off of trails, but they're no worse for wear, with all the seams holding strong and no rips to be seen. The silicone stripes on the finger are disappearing, but we've yet to find a glove where this doesn't occur. The Lifeline Construction works as intended, and there was no bunching or gathering of fabric against our palm. The best part? With a retail price of $25, if for some reason they do decide to leave this world for glove heaven, buying another pair won't break the bank. - Mike Kazimer







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107 Comments
  • 48 0
 Instead of inflating the bladder on the hydration pack to pressurize it, causing it to "balloon" and take up space, why couldn't you just wrap a bungee cord around it or something. I'm not sure I really see the benefit, except for mid-ride water fights with female riding companions.
  • 50 1
 ...or squirting people from the chairlift- that is always fun
  • 7 1
 Two words - Jagermeister laybacks (post ride)
  • 1 3
 They missed one of the main points of the pressurized bladder... If you put an in line filter on the drink tube, it would help the water through. Not sure how much resistance a filter can add though.
  • 6 0
 we had one of those that a rep brought it. we talked the owner out of getting them. They're over engineered. and not in a good way. the best way to pressurize a pack is to stick it under your arm and squeeze that thing like a bag pipe.
  • 3 0
 There is actually an included filter. It does help, but I still can't get rid of the #&@!*@?!@#?&^ plasticky taste!
  • 5 0
 Here are a few things the review left out about the Rig pack. I bought 2 of them because they come with a whole booklet of lift tickets for all around the US and Canada. Using those lift tickets paid for the packs alone. Also, they sell a filter that you can use with their pressurized system so you can pull water from a stream or another source if you're on a long hike or ride in the backcountry. I did not, and would NEVER pay $185 for the pack though. I bought them from a family member who is a retailer for a lot cheaper. It's a solid pack. I'm not totally sold on the pressurized system for the everyday user either. But the free lift tickets really make the deal worth it for these packs.
  • 6 0
 That pressurized system: a solution just looking for a problem...
  • 6 2
 I can't tell you how many times I've been out on the trail and thought hmmm I could really use a penis pump right about now! Geigerrig has you covered for only $185 hahahahah. Only a german company could come up with this, then charge you 3 times the price of a similar Dakine pack. Speaking of Dakine their bladders are the shiz and last forever, work great.
  • 3 2
 I just don't understand why it's in the product picks?
  • 2 0
 I can't see using a pressurized hydration system with a constantly full drinking hose. At this time of year in this country the water needs to be pushed back out of the hose after each sip or it freezes solid in minutes and no more hydration. That's what -5 to -22 plus wind chill gets you. The insulation you can get for the Camelback hoses is useless at these temperatures unless you're standing still and/or constantly sipping. Might work well in SoCal, but, I'd end up wearing as much as I drank.
  • 4 1
 Who takes a hydration pack on the lift.... The drinking fountain is at most 10 min away I feel like.
  • 2 2
 @bholton, you are hardcore. Just riding in -5 with a wind chill is pretty tough, especially on one long enough to freeze your water pipe. I personally can't find a way to keep my index braking finger warm enough to be able to bike properly long before any water on me can freeze.
  • 3 1
 @SithBike - Pearl Izumi Lobster Claw Gloves. They work below 0 for me. If it gets really stupid cold then I might have to throw in some hand warmers. These gloves are so good I use them snowboarding too. For my feet I use 5.10 Karvers and defeet woollie bullies. Seldom if ever do I use toe warmers. I layer up on the core, really well. Once the core is hot the body looks to lose heat anywhere it can. So it keeps pumping blood to the hands and feet.

The water pipe freezes most of the time. I'm usually pretty thirsty when I get back.
  • 1 0
 I have a military issue Camelbak Thermalpack that has neoprene along the tube. Takes ages to heat up or cool down. No storage though.
  • 1 0
 A boa system would work great to replace the inflatable bladder I would think.
  • 17 2
 Doesn't everyone just bite their valve and blow air into their water pack to pressurize it anyway ? Wtf is with overcomplicating things like this, way to go engineering guys....
  • 4 78
flag TheOnlyEhren (Jan 17, 2014 at 3:55) (Below Threshold)
 sq225917, dude, you have the intelligence of a 5 year old. Look at the picture or read the article and you can clearly see a drinking hose and a hand pump hose. If you need me to be more in depth, I suggest taking 3rd grade.
  • 47 0
 I think you need to re-read his comment and take your own advice...he was not asking how the pack above pressurizes, he was asking why it is needed because you can do the same by blowing air back into the pack. Might want to be careful telling people they have the intelligence of a 5 year old when it seems you might have even less.
  • 24 4
 Ehren, when I next need advice from someone with a kindergarten level of reading comprehension you'll be first on my list, thanks for bringing this unique skill of yours to my attention.
  • 35 1
 fucking americans...
  • 3 1
 lol.
  • 23 5
 Sorry guys. What I said was rude and uncalled for. I was trying to explain how simple the design is. I own one personally and think it is much better than conventional water bladders. When pumped up, the bladder will conform to the things in your pack. If you pump it up about 100 times, it has enough power to clean out deep cuts and gashes. Pressurizing a conventional bladder cannot do this. It can also be used to share with other people without sharing a bit valve. I am really sorry about what I said earlier. It is not who I am, and I am never like that. I hope you can accept my apology.
  • 4 0
 take a lap pledge
  • 18 1
 Way to man up brother. It's not often you see people apologizing on the web.
  • 2 0
 Yeah, you can pressurize it by blowing air back into a standard pack, but the "slosh-slosh" drives me insane.

I like how my Osprey pack uses the weight of the water itself and clever shoulder straps to put a small amount of squish on the bladder, creating the same effect as this air pump. No extra parts to fail and minimal additional cost.
  • 1 0
 I agree UtahBikeMike. The Osprey pack is the best waterpack I've used in my, uh, 17 or 18 years of riding. I'll never use anything else from now on!
  • 1 0
 I have a hard enough time sucking water out of the pack when heaving and gasping for air. I could not even imagine trying to pressure the pack by blowing into a tube during a tough haul. That is the whole point of the pressure system. The idea is great to have pressurized water squirt into your mouth. But that pump just adds one to many gadgets in the bike riding arsenal.
  • 7 2
 Seeing people apologize and forgive online makes me so glad haha!
  • 11 0
 The pressurization of the bladder does not take up any cargo space if you load the pack before you pressurize the bladder. The bladder then uses what you have in the pack as resistance and you need less pumps to pressurize the bladder. I have been using a Geigerrig since they first came out and I have been happy with the pack and the ease of use of the bladder. I haven't noticed a chemical taste after using the bladder a few times. The bladders are also dishwasher safe when you turn them inside out, so cleaning is simple. The best part is the in-line filter. It works great and does not restrict water flow. My friends ran out of water on Monarch Crest once and I was able to give them the rest of mine and fill my bladder in a stream, connect the filter and finish the ride with plenty of water for all of us. The spraying is a little gimmicky but it does allow you to share water with a friend or trail dog without them having to get their saliva all over your drinking tube.
  • 4 0
 Thank you! You provided better after purchase knowledge than pinkbike did on this pack! Now it's just a question of "will my camera stuff fit. "
  • 10 0
 When my dog needs a drink mid ride I just push on my camelback the slightest bit no need for pressurized packs at triple the cost
  • 5 0
 I do the same. Just reach back with one hand and squeeze, pinch the valve with the other hand. No more thirsty puppy!
  • 1 0
 You ride in a place with no creeks?
  • 8 0
 I just take hormone shots to induce lactation...problem solved !
  • 6 0
 I don't care, I use the Mechanix gloves you can get at the hardware store. They have them by the bushel in all sizes and configurations, from no padding to way more than you need.They're cheaper and they last way longer than any mtb-specific gloves, plus the hardware store is always open. Sorry LBS and internet.
  • 7 0
 i have a pair of those gloves and I really really like em they where cheap and after a year I'm still using them. the review is pretty spot on
  • 1 0
 Great to hear. I love my royal gloves, but they only last 4 to 6 months. If these are as comfortable then they could be a winner for me.
  • 1 0
 100% agree with you on that betsie, love Royal gear but my god anything with those "pull tabs" on them, gloves jackets etc just fall apart and its really starting to put me of Royal now.
  • 2 0
 they did fray a little when I ripped out the tags hahaha other than that they've been great and I was still using them in autumn. I also bought them on sale for like 10 bucks.
  • 1 0
 Same here, I have been wearing the Alpine softshell for about a year and it already lost one of the tabs on the cuffs and somehow managed to break one of these cords inside the pocket that adjust the waist. Definitely a well thought out jacket but the quality could be better.
  • 1 0
 Love the spesh gloves i got two pairs of em' i highly recommend them.
  • 4 0
 I have a geigerriig pack and I agree that the pack itself is REALLY well constructed and should be the most durable thing out there. A little heavy as a result but you won't shred it crashing or blow a zipper. The bladder took a while to loose the acrid taste, but it did. The bladder is made by hydrapak and it seems like this is a known problem to their bladders that just takes time to overcome. I like the pressurized thing. I do find myself drinking more water, which is one of the things they tell you will happen.
  • 1 0
 It's a pretty big deal to be drinking water that tastes like plastic don't you think? If you can get the sh*t taste out of the water bladder by using it. Why can't the company do that for you before they sell it? They should tell you plastic is a carcinogen before you buy and start tasting that stuff during your ride.
  • 5 1
 If the water taste like chemicals stop using asap! That sh*t is poison. It doesn't matter if it says its BPA, PVC, and phthalate free its contaminated and the vendor is lying to the company.
  • 4 0
 Watch out for chemtrails too. Shhh they're listening...
  • 1 2
 Chemtrails are not not good either. Think about it this way, the government, the military, corporations like Monsantos and god knows who else the are all spraying different things to do different things. Of course they wont say why or what they are spraying. I personally think that much of what is sprayed is to help ionize the air for HAARP and its weapons...uh, l mean research devices like HAARP to do their destruction and "research"
As for the water. Safe plastic for water should never Ever taste of chemicals. You should only taste the crap in the water.
THEY are listening and know everything about you, me and everyone.
  • 3 0
 If they already know everything. Might as well give them a good show.
  • 2 0
 I bought a geigerriig pack about a year ago. The plastic taste went away soon enough for me. The first thing to go however was the pump. As others have said, I found it a bit over engineered for a hydration system. It added more weight provided less space for things inside the pack for a novel idea of having pressurized water shoot into your mouth for a bit until you lost sufficient pressure and had to pump it up again. In the end I found the pump annoying and just another thing in the way. The pack is spacious and I would say ideal for all day adventures and times when you may need extra gear/clothes for those fall/winter rides. Other than that... I still use my more compact hydration system to my typical rides.
  • 6 0
 Boy, I would love to crank those cranks...
  • 2 0
 "The PF30 bottom bracket is unique in that it has an aluminum threaded sleeve that joins the assembly together"

Hope has been making those for a little while too.
www.bikerumor.com/2013/02/26/frostbike-2013-hopes-new-threaded-press-fit-bottom-bracket
  • 1 0
 Profile made a USA bb (archaic bottom bracket size used in bmx till 10 years ago) with a similar idea, not as refined though as the cups rotated inside the bb shell and I can imagine the friction being too high at some point to further get it in even though it hasn't bottomed out yet.
  • 1 0
 Bonkywonky, no such problem with the Profile Evolution BB. Because of the way they threaded together there was no need for the to have such a tight press fit as a traditional "American" BB, they installed quite easily. Also, because they didn't require the tight press fit, they were extremely smooth running too. www.yellowjersey.org/proflevo.html
  • 2 0
 Didn't know they were slightly undersized. Probably a good thing as bmx is pretty sloppy when it comes to standards, I used to have an S&M LAF frame that needed a big old bearing press to get the mid bb in (and even then it didn't go smoothly) whereas I could press the same bb in with my hands on an other frame..

Same with rear end spacing, FBM used to be 114mm to accommodate Profile hubs that were deliberately oversized whereas S&M made frames were around 108mm - I had to mill down the cones of my Mini in order to get it even close to fitting my Fit S2i. The Taiwan made frames used to be perfect in that regard.
  • 7 1
 Has anyone ever read a negative review on a Specialized product?
  • 6 1
 Oh look, 3 actually useful products
  • 3 0
 Blowing air back through the bite valve works... thats what I use when I get junk in my eyes for a quick rinse. No need for a special pump!
  • 1 1
 There are two separate compartments, one for air and the other holds the water. They did that so your water doesn't get contaminated with whatever is in the air you are pumping in to pressurize.
  • 3 0
 I blow air back into my bladder every ride to make drinking easier. You can also arch your back to add more pressure to the bladder.

The "contaminants" in air are the same things you'll be breathing in all ride so your nose and mouth will be full of them any ways. No need to try and protect the bladder from them.
  • 2 0
 The contamination-free water that tastes like plastic?
  • 1 0
 those are not from the air, they are from the bladder itself... thus ok to ingest :}
  • 2 1
 When i see all that hype with spiderless crankarms I remember my XTR/XT gueto style spyderless. Xtr chairings was to big with 48 tooth than I took a 42 chainring from a triple XT crankset than trimed down to fit on the XTR crankarm and I got maybe one of the first spyderless mtb crankset back in year 2000...
  • 1 0
 Those cranks look awesome and I bet they work perfectly, but would they really be better than proven-to-be-good-enough-for-what-you-do normal 'spider' cranks with some narrow-wide ring (Race Face?). Like it or not chainrings wear out and I have a feeling that compatible ones for those cranks will be a bit pricey. I'll check the prices out now...
  • 3 0
 plus needing a proprietary tool for the bb....
  • 1 0
 Plus needing a proprietary bottom bracket. Is an industry standard for BB and crank interface too much to ask for?
  • 2 0
 They lost me at proprietary. I've had e-13 cranks before, but I hated that nonsense and sold them for that reason alone. if something is going to be proprietary it needs to prove that it's got some major advantage over the standard. I don't think this does.
  • 1 0
 The BB interface is actually not proprietary, it is just not the same as cranks using a 24mm steel spindle - you can use a 1 3/4 inch 12 point socket or a 45mm 12 point socket for the e*thriteen cranks (either of which should be available from your local hardware or auto supply store). The tool also comes with the cranks when you buy them.....so you are not being forced to buy anything additional. The 30mm alloy spindle does have advantages over a 24mm steel spindle in both stiffness and weight.
  • 2 0
 Drop a poly-dent tablet (denture cleaner) in the pack, leave it there overnight, scrub it out and rinse it good, I bet the manky plastic taste goes away. However, the pressurized thing still seems stupid.
  • 1 0
 I ended up getting a a Rig as a gift. I though it was the cat's ass at first. I have not tested it on a ride yet but I have tried the bladder. It does take up a lot of room and I'm unsure if I will like this on a ride. And the water stream is kinda weak. Even after numerous pumps. I will prob throw my 3L standard bladder in it and rock the bag. The bag however is well built. No complaints there. Luckily it only cost 65$ not bad. Plus I used the free day of riding that came in the passport book. So big up to that. 185$ for the Rig, IMO not worth it.
  • 4 0
 Those cranks look so good!
  • 2 1
 The earlier cranks (as mentioned here) were big trouble to set up, and the bearings were expensive and disposable. Miserable things. Pretty pains in the ass. On the short list of the worst mtb products that I have owned...in the company of Crank Brothers Candy pedals, 2008 Mavic Demax rear hub, KS Lev post that worked a little for a single ride.

I want to like e-13. I will never buy another of thier products.
  • 4 0
 Im inventing a bladder that sits on top of your helmet. Gravity feed.
  • 2 0
 BEER HELMET! PIGPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 3 0
 You sir are brilliant!
  • 2 0
 just lookin' out for my neighbors
  • 2 0
 Note to self: whenever doing reviews of backpacks, always show what it looks like on a person.
  • 1 0
 My only problem with the cranks is that they require a specific ring, and with the cranks running at $369 w/o a BB I cant imagine how much those ring cost to replace
  • 3 0
 You can mount a regular 104x4 bolt spider on them. I have one on my Solo.
  • 1 0
 I have a LG1r that i paid something like 170 dollars on it. I just have it because I paid cheap... 360 dollars for a crank is absurd!
  • 1 0
 That crank seems like a pretty good deal to me, even without the bottom bracket...I wonder what carbon AM crank they are talking about that is cheaper?
  • 1 0
 Did anyone else look at that picture of the left hand in the right box and think why did they put the grippy stuff on the back of the hand?
  • 3 1
 Buy E*Thirteen! Love my set ups!
  • 1 0
 Any word about how efficient the narrow-wide pattern of E*13 chainring is? Feels like you forgot something in your review.
  • 2 0
 If the Race Face narrow wide is anything to go buy then it is as good as the xx1. I had an xx1 set up last year. This time I tried the xx1 rear ends set up with race face ring. Not dropped a chain once.
  • 1 0
 been running the narrow wide ring on my 29er hardtail and bronson for a while now, no guide with an xo type 2 derailleur. Haven't had a single issue with it coming off. It works great
  • 1 0
 The pressurized bladder is a great idea. Now I just need a machine to tie my shoes for me a.d a helmet that buckles itself
  • 1 0
 First line in Review"basted in Ogden Utah" basted like turkey. Lmao
Hello Spell Check
  • 1 0
 I think that guy in specialized glove has longer thumb =D
  • 5 5
 Surprised to see that the fact that the sharp edges on the e13 crank arms will cut your shoes up fast wasn't mentioned.
  • 7 2
 If you ride with your feet in the right position your shoes shouldn't be hitting your crank arms. I've been running E.13 cranks for years and never had this problem with them.
  • 3 8
flag panaphonic (Jan 16, 2014 at 23:48) (Below Threshold)
 Good for you pal. Other people do have this problem. What would normally just be slight rubbing, can shred a 5-10 to hell in just a few rides.
  • 8 2
 try correctiong your foot position...
  • 8 2
 Ah the wisdom of people with tiny feet. If I put my sizes 15s central on the pedal part of my shoe will be touching some part of the crank. If I space my feet widely enough not to about half my foot is off the outside edge of the pedal, on nice wide Straitlines. Not having sharp edges on cranks strikes me as pretty obvious anyway, smacking your ankle on those mid-rock garden must be pretty brutal.
  • 3 1
 funn souljams? they're huge as eff. your ankle point is very valid though, I did not think of that. oh! and wrap your cranks in helecopter tape. its completely clear and is durable as eff so there will be no rub marks on the cranks
  • 1 2
 Even my spd shoes have some rub marks on them. Even with the cleats moved all the way to the inside to move the shoe out. I'm a size 13 but I know people with size 10s who have destroyed shoes quickly with e13s. My foot position is just fine thanks. Sharp edges on cranks are looks ranked over function. Have you ever seen used cranks that don't have rub marks on them? Particularly on the drive side?
  • 2 0
 yes. yes I have.
  • 1 0
 Are the cranks only for bb30?
  • 1 0
 "e*thirteen offers bottom brackets for all of the current options on the market – threaded, BB92, PF30, and BB30."
  • 1 0
 Nice!
  • 5 6
 Is it only me that sucks the air out of the bladder to have more room in the backpack? I guess I am good at sucking but this thing is a Try hard indeed...
  • 7 0
 no not just you mate I tip my bladder upside down then squeeze to bleed the air out , once while out on a epic I sucked her dry and filled it with lemonade from a ice cream van ,what a twat it only blew the feed pipe clean off and gave me a sticky wet backside.
  • 1 2
 oh I laughed!
  • 1 0
 I like to remove the air from the bladder as well. Same reason. But as stated above, at this time of year I do end up pushing some air into the bladder via the mouth piece to prevent freezing.
  • 1 0
 Suck my cock it's Blackpool rock.
  • 1 0
 can the e-13 handle DH as well?
  • 1 2
 Who the fuch are e13??? Sounds proper pikey like nukeproof or 5ten
  • 2 0
 dude open a magazine...







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