Pinkbike Poll - Does Fashion Trump Function?

Sep 9, 2013 at 16:19
by Mike Levy  
For a group of people who are generally considered to be outcasts of sorts, especially compared to the status quo of stick and ball sports that the general public is more familiar with, I'd have to say that we are awfully concerned with our appearance. There is, of course, nothing wrong with wanting to look good while pedalling bicycles around and laughing like kids who are having the time of their lives with good friends, but it goes well beyond that, doesn't it?

The outlawing of tight clothing being worn by World Cup downhillers is the most obvious example. I mean c'mon, the entire idea is to get from point A to point B as fast as possible, yet concern about how the sport appears led to rules being penned that ban Lycra and tight clothing in general. So instead of the world's fastest racers wearing what makes the most sense for, wait for it, racing, they dress like they are riding motocross bikes. Take a look at downhill ski racing, arguably one of the fastest, most extreme sports in the world, and you'll see racers wearing skin suits that make complete sense, unlike the baggy clothes that have been mandated into downhilling. No, I don't want to wear Lycra on my trail ride, but I would happily don the tights if my job was to go as fast as possible between the tape. It's time to stop caring what people think, and to stop trying to be anything else other than World Cup downhilling, a burly sport where racers should be able to wear Lycra because it is the correct tool for the job.

Brendog was enjoying the high speeds on offer this afternoon as the course dried out. His best result is 8th on Quebec turf but you have to look back through 4 years of archives to find it.

Do the racers want to wear Lycra? Probably not, but it would be faster. Does Lycra sell clothing to the average mountain biker? Not a chance.




Downhilling isn't the only discipline where fashion trumps function, though, with other genres falling into the same trap. Slope riders who compete in tank tops, no pads, and a skate-style lid - does that really make the most sense? The dirt jumpers whose gloves seem to spend more time in their back pocket than on their hands - why? The average weekend warrior who wears an "enduro" helmet that provides marginally more coverage at the price of much less ventilation, more weight, and, with some of them, no way to wear glasses comfortably but an inane ability to sport goggles. The list goes on, and we're all guilty of it, including myself. This much was made clear to me when I recently started experimenting with using a few different
Camelbak hip bags, otherwise known as fanny packs. With the water held low, and enough room for all necessary supplies, these bags make too much sense to not use, sneers and jeers aside. Do these hip bags make more sense for mountain biking? In most cases, hell yes. Will they catch on? Due to fashion trumping function, they most surely will not.

Give us back pockets on our baggy jerseys, mountain bike-specific hip bags, and well-ventilated helmets that also provide loads of extra coverage. And allow the racers to wear Lycra and go visor-less if that lets them go faster. It's time that function started playing a larger role in our gear, and that won't happen until riders start asking for exactly that.




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138 Comments
  • 103 0
 I heard that the brighter color kit I race in, the faster I go. The ration is something like 10% bike, 10% rider, 100% pajamas...
  • 7 0
 i never thought TLD + technicolor would mesh. Groms tell me i'm wrong. Frown
  • 41 1
 BAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! I really had to read that when I was f*cking drunk? The only time I get on pinkbike drunk.. I see a freakin fanny pack! HAHHAHAHAHAHAH!
  • 5 4
 so is being "ricer" invading DH nowadays? Does a TLD carbon helmet really make you fast?
  • 18 1
 l don't think any part of our sport is fashionable...try walking around town for a day wearing a TLD or iXS downhill race kit, and see how many weird stares you get
  • 9 0
 I couldn't give a shit what people think of me when I'm riding, I like bright colours so I wear them. I dislike dark colours, I think they're boring. Does it really matter? If it sells, it's obviously what people want.
  • 3 1
 Go home Vince, your drunk, and garfinkles is closed
  • 9 0
 I think the muddier you are, the better you look!
  • 1 0
 Right hahahah
  • 2 0
 So the gold bling kit for my Thomson stem doesn't improve performance? Those lying bastards!!!!
  • 19 0
 stickers add 5 hp
  • 9 0
 I wear bright colors so when I case a jump the EMTs can find me faster.
  • 2 3
 A carbon helmet makes ur wallet liter not sur it protects ur head any better or makes u faster
  • 2 0
 Rigodon you always drunk. LUSH!
  • 3 0
 there's more truth to BaeckerX1's comment than one would believe... take AK backcountry, no cell reception, riding solo, with nothing but a "call friend deadline" to race against.... If I don't make it, I want to be found!!!
  • 7 5
 Fashion is made for morons, that have no indentity. The companies wil tell them, hey wear our shitty GayBan glasses, you will look cool! So the morons go, and get GayBan glasses, like millions of other morons, and every single one of them thinks "Im so cool, Im special", they are not aware though, they are no special, but are nothing more than clone of each other. Fashion is a crap. I cant often buy something I want, because of fashion. I dont give a f*ck if this year, stripes, dots, plain or something else is fashionable. I dont give a f*ck about epaulettes, or lots of other crap that has no use, and can be found on todays clotches. I in general have very few things to wear, and I wont buy more, as long as they dont meet my expectations. I piss at fashion, and all these that follow it, and create it. I recently went to buy pants, but nowadays pants, are some gay pants style. They were for adults, but I could barely fit my balls there, and they were just so small, skinny shit. At least I can get military loose baggy pants, and military jackets. Cant find myself in todays world. Its run by morons mostly, and if your are not a moron, you will be lost.
  • 9 0
 Try making your own cloths pal, it'll probably cheer you up
  • 5 0
 Ya, nothing better then the ol' sackcloth....
  • 72 0
 Never suggest riding visorless... Blank Stare


as the great Rob Warner said, "If you fall in a run and break your visor off, that's it, you're done. you don't ride without a visor"
  • 47 0
 whenever me or a buddy break our visor off, we have this rule that you must wear a cape until you get a new visor.
  • 10 0
 Damn, now I get why people were laughing at me.
  • 7 0
 Hahahahaha good stuff! Any helmet without a visor gives you a stormtrooper look.
  • 16 0
 got my squid lid on.. hahahaha
  • 2 0
 I lose it every time at the squid lid part.. I happen to have it as my ringtone as well..

if your bike is clean and your kit is brand new, you are entitled to say to anybody, "I'm fast, way faster than you."
  • 39 0
 Looking Pro is half the battle.
  • 9 1
 Totally! Nothing is as bad as Skiing or Snowboarding. Its a fashion statement just as much as it is a sport.
  • 33 2
 I've used a fanny pack/bum bag for about 2 years and my mates rip the piss out of me EVERY ride.
  • 68 1
 good you deserved it
  • 9 0
 I'm with Mike:
I recently thought about using such a hip back. While I found it sort of uncool, I wasn't aware there was such a hate on it. - I don't like to wear a backpack too much when downhilling. And actually a hip back would take a tool, spare tube and some powerbar or so without the extra weight and added sweat from a backback, also without tying the baggy jersey. Sounds useful to me.

And no, I don't want to do without any pack and push my bike all the way down after a mechanical failure or flat.
  • 2 0
 I used a hip bag for a little while, but it liked to spin at inopportune times. I'd like to see a company combine core protection with a backpack, but make the whole getup stylish enough to wear by itself.
  • 4 0
 evoc has makes backpacks with a spin protector, it also helps your posture when the bag is heavy
  • 2 0
 Those Evoc bags are close, but they are backpack with protection added, not protect with a backpack added.
  • 1 0
 I just got a Nathan brand pack. It's designed for runners, but it worked out great for a 90 minute ride at Tokul: imgur.com/TVbuVud
I just carried a bottle, keys, phone, tube and a CO2 cartridge. I wouldn't do this for a backcountry ride, of course, but I'll use it from now on for Duthie and a lap of Tiger Mountain.
  • 2 0
 Deep down I know I do :-p
  • 1 1
 We should just skip the fanny packs and go straight for the pocket protectors. Think of all the lube we could be storing in those pockets!
  • 16 2
 "The dirt jumpers whose gloves seem to spend more time in their back pocket than on their hands - why?"

In my personal experience dirt jumping, I ride with my gloves in my pocket for function not for fashion! For me I much prefer the feel of no gloves and find that I ride much better without gloves.But on some of those scorching hot days my hands become to slippery from sweat.Hence why my gloves live in my pockets for just in case.
  • 6 3
 I think he was just hitting at the point that gloves can't protect your hands when they're in your pocket, that's all.
  • 10 1
 Everybody is entitled to buy, wear, and ride whatever they please, wherever they want to. As long as they're decent to everyone around them and are having fun what does it matter. Anybody that treats another rider with condescension for what they are riding or wearing is a dick! And to the inbred that shouted, "Yeah, let's freeride, freeride, freeride"! after me at the weekend because I dared to ride my Bottlerocket around light local trails, you know what you are buddy!
  • 1 0
 he's just a d-bag.... I can be spotted on my Entourage paved bike trails getting to and from alpine rides (gotta love AK), and with the average level of elitism among our average cyclist on the paved trails I'm surprised I haven't had a similiar encounter.
  • 14 6
 Ekhem Enduro helmets providing slightly more protection at the cost of ventilation? Interesting relation. But NR1- most XC lids are road lids with a visor, they slip from the head very easily, and because of that they provide very little protection for the falls on the forehead and most importantly on the temples. Most good "Enduro" lids like Poc or Urge are dirt piss pots with more vents and a visor. Tthey are much less likely to slide from the head during an impact as they cover larger area of the head. Nr2 Ventilation requirements depend solely on the temperature, and not everyone lives in places where +30C is a norm. At least not yet Big Grin

Then the baggy pants are actualy extremely functional, they are way more durable than lycra, they protect the skin against bruising much better and they have pockets, which is helpful in the most blatant situations. So the questionable style issue comes in, not with moto shorts but those thin, light Trail AM shorts, being a cycling version of those worn by sailors and golfers, they provide nothing above lycra but the pocket.
  • 5 1
 I agree. Two weeks ago I went over the bars at over 25kph and my forehead hit the ground first. I was stunned for a minute but even though the visor bent towards me it didn't break and my helmet didn't move on my head it just crushed the skin in two spots on my forehead. Glad I wasn't wearing a street lid and actually the Catlike Leaf is well ventilated and about 320g. I ride in baggy jeans with short liners which help protect in falls and also for all the 2' poison ivy on the single track I run. Who cares what other people think, wear what works for you.
  • 8 0
 Very interesting article! Because you do make some very good points as to why they should be wearing skin suits. However with skin suits banned everyone is still on the same playing field. And so sure the fashion vs function question comes into play but I think business plays a bigger role. Consumers want to buy the kits that their favorite racer wore when he took gold. They obviously won't buy lycra to wear at the bike park so now they don't know that to buy. It's a very double edged sword as far as the racing scene goes but in the bike park without a doubt fashion trumps form. I remember growing up racing I ALWAYS wore my armor jacket and now you see kids trying to look like they're heroes wearing nothing but a neck brace and knee pads...
  • 7 0
 I think you hit on one of the most important points here which is the business/marketing aspect of all this. You have to break down what professional mountain biking really is. Some major sports are spectator sports, like baseball, football, basketball, soccer etc. Those professional athletes are paid mostly to play the game. The majority of revenues and salaries come directly from people paying to watch the athletes play in the form of buying tickets and the revenues from TV contracts or prize money fronted by the sponsors of big events.

Most other sports like mountain biking are not spectator sports. The professional athletes are for the most part not making money based off people paying to watch them ride. Riders are instead paid mostly by individual sponsors to wear/ride their products. The riders are essentially a walking advertisement for the companies they represent. That being said, sponsors want them riding and wearing shit consumers will buy. And lets be honest, no one is going to buy/wear skin suits outside of pro racers. There is no money to be made there for the companies and in turn no money to be made by the rider by wearing the skin suit.
  • 2 0
 Exactly, and as far as promoting the sport- how many little kids would pick a Decline mag up off the shelf and say "Mom I want to do this" if there was a picture of Fairclough in a jet black skinsuit and a bullet lid, speed pumping (because it's much faster than throwing a big whip) the the supercross jumps at the Hajfell track
  • 8 0
 if you want to be pure in function, sure, skinsuits is likely faster in downhill. But faster in maybe a few tenths at best over the length of an average downhill course, FOR the experts and above, who are travelling fast enough for aerodynamics/drag, to be a factor. Despite what counter-trend "purists" think, I think moto style pants and jersey (when temps allow) are ideal. Not overly baggy, long sleeves for some protection, pants/sleeves keep elbow and knee pads in place better. Yes, were not riding MX bikes, but mind you, DH has more similarity and cross-pollenation of technology with MX than road. Which is precisely a big reason why I gravitate (no pun intended) towards downhill. The author also fails to realize that gravity riding (aka DJ, 4X, DH, etc.) is more about lifestyle, having fun, and yes, style, as a way to express oneself. f*ck lycra/spandex roadie shit, if I wanted to hang out, be with other dudes clad in tight spandex, injecting EPO/HGH, and talk about how high my lactate threshold is, I'll just go to my local road race and kick my own ass. For FUNCTION, i do indeed wear lycra padded cycling shorts under my TLD PJs, because my balls thank me after a long day riding. Does that make me a hypocrit? maybe, but I still think one looks ridiculous if they choose to wear lycra/spandex on the outside.
  • 2 2
 Lycea and no peak would take seconds of times on courses like Pietermaritzburg and hafjell. And with downhill course getting faster there's even more potential for speed from lycra than there was back in the days they used it
  • 7 0
 Motocross is a race format -- motocross pants and jerseys are for racing. Every DHer could be faster if he or she dropped the 1kg of helmet, since a top 10 run rarely involves any crash--why even wear a helmet? The answer is obvious: to some degree, a racer has to dress for the crash, and so helmets are mandatory. Moto pants are a hell of a lot more protective than skinsuits. And if all that isn't enough, consider the point being made by others in the thread: pro cycling IS NOT about being the fastest. It's about being a brand ambassador, and yeah, there is some racing too, but never put before the primary job of showing product in the best light to the most consumers. Thems the facts.
  • 6 0
 In general, I agree with the whole function over form argument. Except in the case of skin suits. I could not disagree more. I think banning those things was the best thing to e we happen. No way I want to watch these guys riding in those things. They look ridiculous. I'm sure most riders are glad it's banned too. Takes the pressure off them from having to wear it. You brought up downhill skiing as an example, but another example is skier/boarder cross racing which like DH bans clothing that us too tight.
  • 5 0
 I sometimes shoot vids and pics on my rides so when I am doing that, I sport a fanny pack on the front which makes getting to the cameras, batteries, and memory cards an easy pinch. Might not be fashionable but to me function wins every time - I am 42 and it isn't like I am gonna pick up a chick on the ride anyways.
  • 4 0
 If FIS were to ban tight clothing in alpine racing the interest from clothing brands would multiply, hence drive more money in to the sport. The opposite would be the case if the ban against tight clothing was lifted in DH biking. The market for skin suits for skiers and mountain bikers at consumer level is not very big.
  • 4 0
 I've always been a function before fashion guy. I wear knee pads and wrist guards for xc riding, I feel like they make sense. I started using them after a bad crash, and now I can't imagine not using them. I wear a Lazer xc helmet with no visor. Lots of vents, fits great, offers all the protection I need for xc trail riding. I also use flat pedals and five ten shoes on my xc trail bike, another thing I think makes sense for mountain biking. That one, I get some looks on. Flat pedals on an xc bike aren't a super popular choice in my area. Doesn't matter though, just use what makes sense for you. Ride and have fun, be safe doing it.
  • 4 0
 we all want to be a unique and beautiful snowflake. it's just as important as getting top comment on pb godamnit doesnt anyone understand!?!?

Now excuse me while i get back to searching the internet for a fullface that matches my frame.
  • 6 2
 I believe so. Listen to all the divas on Pinkbike bitch about colors and looks. What a bunch of fairies! Function before looks/aesthetics. Unless you want you panties to match the color scheme of your bikes.
  • 3 0
 look fast -> ride fast
  • 7 4
 Dineracer - I earn living by balancing fashion and function. I am an architect and in various projects we always weigh looks with function, actualy there is one element missing in that article. The holy trinity of every design, from Gucci glasses, MTB shorts to Manhattan skyscraper is: form, function, construction. Something can be perfectly functional while being ugly and brittle. Also Fashion has it's function and that is absolutely undeniable. Flashy pro kits are 100% functional to the sponsored racers, but for a normal guy, they can't be anything more than self gratification. Lycra or tight ski pants went out of fashion because kids don't like it, and loose baggy stuff isn't much less functional than tight stuff.

Everytime there is too much balance or too much domination things go either beige or wrong. In my short career i have came upon clients who chose one of those three as being the dominating factor, and those clients were the most confident ones with least questions - they felt very smart of themselves by knowing exactly what they want. And every time such "confident" bloke comes along, the project turns out to be a disaster, both as process and end result. Because their vision could not stand the inevitable conflict with other things.

What I am trying to say is, that you can't run away from fashion, just as you can't run away from function and construction. The biggest misconception though is that Fashion is something anyone can get right with ease, and is easiest to be crossed out. I will put to you that TLD D3 helmet could look like some cheapo 661 or IXS ugly pish, by being equally safe and light. But such style costs a lot to design even for a person who made dozens of designs. Designing "beauty" takes no less time than making it endure stress and function properly. I will put to anyone that when something looks good it usualy works good, and it is extremely rare when very bad looks are not symptoms of something being really wrong.
  • 5 0
 tl;dr... coulda summed that by just saying its a bit of both style and function.. now why not go with that and put engineers and dessigners to work making sth that looks good and works?
  • 5 3
 No it, can be summed up to: It is next to impossible to run from fashion/style if you want to keep function and structure.

Unless you do it 100% on purpose and are willing to compromise other two just for the sake of coming out of the schemes. But then... you are deeply concerned about style, by trying to look like you are not concerned, so... look what happened to hipsters! One day you put on two different socks, girl jacket, guy trousers, girl hat, hippie shoes - you come out of the house and a lot of people look at you like you are an idiot. Another day a lot of people notice that cool, and start dressing up in a similar way - how sad indeed...

I suspect that's the subconscious reason why I sold 7" bike and bought a 5" bike... Enduro got too popular, too much acceptance of society...
  • 3 1
 On function, form and construction... I believe it to be true also that things which are the most successful functionally are almost always the most aesthetically pleasing. This is aside from fashion though as there are much more powerful factors at work than form and function. like the powers of marketing.. Take the case of Gopro vs Contour for example. Am I wrong in thinking maybe contour definitely had an edge in terms of aesthetics and form yet most people chose a chunky rectangle over a stealthy cylinder. Maybe in the end it doesn't matter how well something works or how aesthetically pleasing it is. Because maybe ultimately for the majority of consumers and commodities, powerful marketing by larger corporations trumps all.
  • 1 0
 WAKI, that was quite interesting.
  • 3 0
 " Unless you want you panties to match the color scheme of your bikes."

That's the first thing I'm looking at when buying bike clothes, they must match each other plus the bike. I even wear white laces in my shoes to match my Crossmax SX wheelset Big Grin
  • 1 0
 White is tight!!
  • 8 0
 Just ride the damn bike.
  • 7 1
 Wearing pajamas for dh is where it crosses the line.
  • 2 0
 In Denmark the world seems to be upside down. The only ones not wearing lycra, are the ones who wants to go really fast, the downhillers. DH is an extreme niche sport here, as the 'hills' around here only allows dh-runs of around one - one and a half minute. This means that mtb'ing has an image of 40+ year old, 20+ kg overweight men in tight roadie gear (and no visors) 'trail'riding mostly on fireroads.
  • 2 0
 I agree with some of this, but the glove thing is kind of ridiculous... I ride without gloves 90% of the time. rub a little dirt on your palms and it grips as good or better and your hands don't feel bulky. How is one supposed to get those callused trail hands with gloves on? I rock gloves if the sweats too much to handle or if its cold. That's function... Pads are restrictive. Some people don't mind the scars that come along with not wearing them. Its preference, if you prefer to look like "johnny pro" and wear new kits every ride, then do it. If you wanna where a skin suit, fanny pack, hydra-pack, full body armor and a Viking helmet, f*ckin go for it. Bringing up this topic just shows that you are just as fashion/function minded as the next guy. Who cares what people wear? If a person wants to risk not having spare tubes on a 30 mile trail ride, then that's on them. Just be your own rider with your own, sometimes borrowed, style and ride your damn bike.
  • 1 0
 In France, fanny packs are called banana bags ("sacoche banane") ! Hard not to be mocked... And hard to find in the mtb shops... Though I agree to say it's much more comfortable and efficient than any back pack. I'll try to re-find and re-use my old one.
  • 1 0
 What happened to the bottle cage and duck tape, u don't need a ruxksack with them, and if u carry more a saddle bag and an xc jersey with pockets in the rear. Can stick bars and jels on inside of shorts liner,can get pump mounts for bikes.
  • 1 0
 You mention downhill ski racing, yet I would say we are more like the freestyle skiers (who where baggy pants with their underwear sticking out). Its about the lifestyle. Sure I wear padded compression wear under my riding clothes, but it is just that, underwear. Full lycra would be uncomfortable, hot and restricting. Plus it would rip every time you crashed. I am a Nordic skier and I have no problem wearing spandex every time I ski, but I will never bike in it.
  • 1 0
 So our bikes are already super expensive because there isn't a big enough rider/fan base and you want the pros to wear lycra? Get out of here. I don't want to watch that, and potential new riders definitely don't want to watch that. I hate the idea of lycra to because what makes down hilling so great is that is about having fun, not being some pompous super elite fastest in the world cycling event. Maybe you should just stick to watching the Tour de France.
  • 4 0
 Missing an extra field "I believe function SHOULD trump fashion even though I let fashion trump function."
  • 1 0
 well seeing the poll.. i know now why the world is going to hell.. lets just all have fun Facepalm
  • 3 0
 I'll be honest, I got a lesser headset because it was ano purple and matched my bike.. :/ I can be a fashion whore I guess. hahah
  • 2 1
 First able we are not all world cup racers!
And what we want is to ride bikes and have fun on it.
If the world cup racers don't want to wear lycra, I don't care and it will not influence me.

But for freeriding or DH I prefer to wear solid shorts with body armour than lycra.
We practice a risky sport so good protection is as important as speed.

Motocross gear is functional for protection (and looks good I admit) that is why motoX style si so used in MTB especially in DH and FR.

See ya
  • 2 1
 Fashion and Function are sort of the same thing in my eyes, i got a bright purple TLD kit when in france the next day i had a huge crash, not a tear or anything on the jersey one of my others would have torn., it all just depend what you get, fucntion can be fashion
  • 1 0
 first,if i have opportunity to buy something nice like a new kit,why should i not buy it.I'm having fun on my bike,i like to wear all of that fashion stuffs like you say,i think that it's not your worry what should i wear and will my gloves be in my pocket,Doesnt matter,only what is important is to ride your bike and have fun on it.
  • 1 0
 I'll rock my big sweaty pack any day I the week holds a nalgene shock pump tire pump, extra tube snacks multi tool some bandages all comfortably I'm a ball of sweat no matter what I wear so.... Plus its protected my back a few times on some sktetchy falls rocks to the back don't sound like fun
  • 1 0
 I'm not always in front but there is normally someone right behind me. It's bad enough that there looking at my ass. Now imagine if they had to stare at it all Lycra clad-ed out. May glutes are nothing to scoff at but, whether the person behind me is enjoying the view or not, it is not something I am terribly comfortable with. Besides, I feel that extra layer of durable baggies over a Lycra chamois gives me some extra protection on those unexpected falls and crashes. Very functional plus fashion.
  • 1 0
 I wear a hipsack on shorter rides and it's the freakin' best. You sweat way less, and the little bit of weight is best around your hips as opposed to being up on your back. If you're in for less than 1.5 hours, this camelback thing sounds perfect. Honestly, what is in your camel back anyway?
  • 1 0
 I've been under the impression that the ban on lycra in world cup dh is because it's really unsafe. Some riders dont care though and are willing to rock skin suits that provide zero protection at high speed falls. Some people would be dumb and wear lycra, others would want more protection. So they banned lycra to even out the playing field. It would be pretty f*cked up if all DH riders were FORCED to wear lycra right? I think it's better to force them not to use it than to force racers to use it. It just makes sense to me, it's a rowdy sport that should be portrayed as so. If the masses wanted lycra then lycra would dominate our sport. We, at the end of the day, are not a lycra wearing breed.
  • 1 0
 If you look back at the races that allowed skinsuits you'll see that most riders had padding underneath the suits. The change to baggier clothing and mandatory visors was purely a fashion thing.
  • 1 0
 I would argue that lycra makes absolutely no sense for downhill in that, while it does offer aerodynamic benefits, some people find it uncomfortable, it offers no protection whatsoever when crashing, which some DH gear has now started to directly integrate. Also, pads of many different types will fit well under normal DH gear, but obviously not lycra.
  • 1 0
 This happened to skiing. Park rats used to make the mountain look like a bag of skittles. The community is transitioning back to earth tones and muted colors however cause its "hood" and "Hard". Ill admit though im on a white giant glory with a white helmet. Skiing however I'm in black snowpants and a grey/black jacket...still a white helmet. Its important to try harder on your clothes than your skill. cause that way when you crash, you at least look good while doing it.
  • 1 0
 The fanny packs practical, who cares what people think. Outlawing lycra is probably one of the best things to happen to the sport though. If nobody wears it no ones at a disadvantage. It's also a lot easier to grow the sport if the top pros don't look like dorks in ridiculously tight clothing.
  • 1 0
 Plaid hoodies and cut off jeans are the fastest things on two wheels. If its too hot for the hoody a tank top is slightly slower, but will do the trick. The bike brand/ wheel size/ category/ travel is all irrelavent.

Now you're talking fast.
  • 1 0
 Ahh, must not forget high speed functional, well constructed, and extremely fashionable footwear. The fastest are Greb Kodiaks aka shit kickers. Top speed is with the tongue hanging out. Runner up goes to Cougar Boots also with tongue hanging out. (Cougar boots are a brand not fashion for a certain demograph of female). Rounding out the podium, flip flops. They must be Reef brand and made out of grass.

This, with the apparel described previously, will get you on the podium every time.
  • 1 0
 I used to ride with a small messenger bag that had a waist strap. I stuffed a Platypus hydration bladder into it and had room for a tube, mini pump, and a few tools. It was perfect, and I used that setup for years. Mind you this was back in 1995-98. I also never heard anybody trash my glorified fanny pack on group rides. I wonder what all you snobs would say now, however it was also a messenger bag because most of the load was suspended by the shoulder strap. It's amazing how a shoulder strap can change things.
  • 1 0
 I think the UCI banning Lycra was a poor decision. In DH you are racing against a clock for timed ranking against your competitors and there is no merit awarded for how you look, so I think it should be up to the rider to decide what works for them and their sponsors.

Also when someone is riding right on the edge and putting together an awesome run, it is so awe inspiring that you don’t even notice what they are wearing. Remember Sam Hill’s VDS champs run in 2008? Did you notice his top was skin tight and he was wearing skin tight leggings with knee pads over the top? At the time I didn’t, I just remember sitting there slack jawed thinking ‘holy sh1t, my mind can’t compute what it is seeing’.

To answer the question posed by the article; Yes I think there are occasions where fashion trumps function.
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 It sure would be nice if the fanny pack was somewhat accepted. I don't like that big Camelbak version but a lower profile bag just for tools, a tube cell phone and maybe a camera would be great. My XC bike and my AM bike both have waterbottle cages so a lopro waist pack would be stealth and very useful. It would also be great for a bike park because there is no place to carry gear with DH clothing and jumping with a camelbak sucks especially when it interferes with a neck brace.
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 Just hit the happy medium, it's always great to have some good looking gear with the functionality to go with it. I wouldn't buy something if it didnt have any kind of functions nor would I buy something that was but ass ugly!
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 The cool thing about fashion is: You can pick your own.

Functionally, no question that wearing full length lycra is better than a tank top for that stylish whip that you might not land (your choice however, is what's cooler and is it worth it?)
  • 1 0
 I'm sure one of the reasons for banning Lycra was so riders could chose to run body armour without immediately putting themselves at a massive disadvantage aerodynamically? And surely safety comes in the function bracket
  • 2 0
 you found hip bags now??? been wearing it since 2003... nice for small rides, no sweating backs: ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb10090153/p4pb10090153.jpg
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 The general rule is, if you ride like crap - at least try to look good. If you ride amazingly - it doesn't matter what you look like.
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 Just because lycras are faster doesn't mean they are better for the sport (thus, for the show). Take F1 for example, huge wings would be faster, double diffusers would be faster, not limited fuel flow for 2014 turbo engines would be WAY faster, V10s were way faster than current V8s, but neither of those examples are permited or unrestricted. That is considering they don't even sell F1 cars, tires, rims, etc to the average fans. In our sport we have (and that is one lovely thing about our sport and Motox) the option to actually buy what our heroes wear and use. I think that restricting lycras is good for riding gear sponsors and generally, the show.
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 Look good = feel good = ride good
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 I thought dropper posts were pretty lame because they put an extra cable on your bike.

One ride changed my mind and now I wouldn't ride a trail/AM bike without one.
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 I don't wear licra because I find it uncomfortable. Give me my light raceface shorts and a dakine jersey any day. I do have vents in my helmet and you'd be stupid not to.... It gets hot out. What really grinds my gears is the guys who wear full TLD race suits to the bike park and then ride the brakes down the green runs all day. For some reason, they look like much bigger douche bags to me the some ultra fast xc racer in lycra
  • 1 0
 Comparing downhill ski to downhill biking is trying to say black is white LOL .. What DH course did any of these DH riders reach AND ride over 80/90 mph? Until then , we have choices we all can pick .
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 By the time these silly little teen scenesters hit their 30's they'll be over it... Function will make sense, and if they have any sense of identity or style, they'll make it look good too.
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 Every sport has a certain image to promote and the rules of the sport help dictate that image. Sure it seems a little silly to ban lycra and visor-less helmets in order to look cool. But if the only goal was to get from A to B as fast as possible then why do most sports ban doping? It's all a matter of where we draw the line. Some sports ban energy drinks like Red Bull while allowing Coke as a sugar and caffeine boost, some are promoted by energy drink companies. Really the objective in any organized sports is not to get from A to B as fast as absolutely possible but to do it as fast as possible within a certain set of rules. If it was all about pur speed downhill mountainbiking would probably have a bunch of spandex clad wind tunnel nuts straightlining down a hill from start to finish with a bikes that have a little motor to help them along if it ever gets pedally.

I say wear whatever makes sense to you when you're out having fun but when you're competing EVERY sport essentially consists of a number of very arbitrary rules. If the objective in soccer was simply to get the ball in the opponents goal then why don't they just use their hands?
  • 1 0
 mountain bikers all tend to look like beebing clicking neoprene quickdry bright colored insects. i always like seeing guys that rock cotton and keep it simple. looks better too.
  • 1 0
 I've been using that same fanny pack for over a year and it is awesome. It has the added bonus that I can give my friends a hard time for getting passed by a guy in a fanny packSmile .
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 Gotta get me one of them packs to lower my center of gravity. Oh, but wait, I also am supposed to buy a dropper post which raises it. The pack looks uncomfortable and increases performance. The dropper post is comfortable but theoretically lowers performance. I'll get a dropper and wear a back pack. Comfort is the name of the game. DH racers don't carry water, but I am out to have fun, not make a buck.
  • 1 0
 And I don't know why there has to be a big fit about this when biking is great the way it is and it will be an awesome sport no matter what people wear.
  • 2 0
 the only thing cooler than looking like a pro is trying to not look like a pro. that's true hipster
  • 3 0
 Why can;t I have both, fashion AND function... I'm paying enough for it!
  • 2 0
 Just paint the bike with a supersonic paint and I can ride wearing tutu. A result!
  • 3 0
 Long live the fanny pack!!!
  • 3 0
 This article is seriously so stupid.
  • 2 0
 What article? I just read the comments.
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 FUCK wearing lycra and squid lids during WC rounds!!! Lets keep a bit of style in this sport jesus christ
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 DOn't worry. Lycra won't happen any time soon. Style is subjective, but at the same time, the racers are sponsored by companies that want to sell us stuff, so fashion is practically funding the race.
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 I want a pro to ride a DH track in pajamas and visor and then without just to see if it would actually affect the speed.
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 I've been heavily considering a camelback because I get dry mouth so fast while riding. I don't care what I look like as long as I'm comfortable and having a good time.
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 Yes to fanny pack. Walking down from the hill sucks especially if you flat early in the run. No to dudes wearing lycra, save that for roadie scum.
  • 1 0
 racing is about selling crap to the kids at home. They won't wear lycra if we won't. If we liked propeller hats I bet they'd race in them.
  • 2 0
 have you considerd saftey?
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 It makes sense for downhillers not to wear Lycra, or at least the ones who wear upper body padding.
  • 2 0
 Long live the fanny pack!!!
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 I'll never switch - for the reason he listed, weight kept low, enough water and carries more than you need and doesn't sweat your back - much looser to ride with. Camel backs are overkill unless you're carrying food, camping supplies and patio furniture. And No I don't wear it DHing or wear lycra!
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 @neimbc You can get smaller sized CamelBaks FYI. You also get some added benefit of back protection if you do fall.
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 That's true, but they tend to be higher up on the back - the back protection factor is a deffinite advantage.
  • 1 0
 My Camel back will hold a grand piano. I sweat like a 350 lb mover on a 40c day under that thing. If my iPod craps out at least I've got back up options for tunes.
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 This article clearly is advertisement for CamelBak, packed in some function vs fashion debate.
  • 1 0
 Fanny pack could be a good alternative for a backpack when wearing Leatt or some other neck brace.
  • 1 0
 I was just thinking the other day...a bump bag / fanny pack would be an ideal riding sack...
  • 1 0
 i used to ride with a Fanny pack, back in the ninties and let me tell yall, it's better with a backpak, cheers
  • 2 0
 If I'm not going to be fast, I'm at least going to look fast.
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 I think Mike Levy is looking for justification to wear a fanny pack.
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 Do they make your ass look big?
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 Sam Hill used lycra in the famous 2008 Val Di Sole race, Plus it looked awesome!
  • 1 0
 if i put fashion over function, i would require a full wardrobe change and a new bike.
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 Yea, I just love the look of lycra and a bum bag Razz
  • 1 0
 Make it look good as well
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 I had a coloured kit but it was always dirty black is the way to go
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 A buddy of mine said it best - "You got to have a passion for flashing".
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 I'd rock that fanny pack
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 LYCRA HATE!!!







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