Crankbrothers' New Klic Floor Pump - First Look

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 @gumbytex @SacAssassin : Of course, this is not our only pump offering in our range for 2018 - we have two models coming to our lineup in the 40-60 dollar range that offer some pretty unique features! Stay tuned...

 @employee7: If you paid $300 for a compressor, then you got ripped off. Mine was only $100.

 Reading comprehension .... ". Without the compressor can, the pump alone will go for $100 USD. With the can and an analog gauge, the price is $200, or $229 for the digital gauge version. "

 I'm not saying that $200 isn't a large sum of money to pay for a pump but I don't think comparing it with a compressor is entirely accurate. This thing doesn't need a power source and can happily live in the boot of your car for when you need it at the trail head.

 Good luck finding a receptacle for your new compressor at the trailhead in the middle of nowhere.

 Do people seat up a lot of tubeless tires at the trail heads? Seems like a redundant products to me but fill your boots if you want the shiniest pump in the parking lot. That's the beauty of the world I suppose.

 somewhat improper to compare a hand powered air pump/compressor to an electric/gas powered air compressor. also differences in market size. economy of scale.. there are a lot more electric/gas compressors manufactured than hand powered air pumps/compressors

but youre right, i still get pissed off with any price. it should be whatever price i consider affordable. if its more then its ridiculous. if its within my personal range of satisfaction its acceptable

 @krazieghost: Stop Immediately. This is Pink Bike! Logic and Understanding be gone.

Only uniformed Bitching is allowed.

 @employee7: I don't. But it's nice to be prepared. On long weekends I bring tools, pump, bike stand, etcetera. It's handy if I need it.

 @tuumbaq: Ever heard of a race weekend? I had to do it during practice day 10 days ago and there were no power outlets around.

 @employee7: People are having their cars broken into at some of our trailheads. Keep as little in the car as possible. That being said, I have a full set of bike tools in my trunk. Fingers crossed.

 @employee7: not something everyone will encounter but I've had to take a compressor with me to races to be able change tires if needed. Having a mint floor pump that can also do the job of seating tubeless tires saves me time and effort in packing.

 @tuumbaq:

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 @tuumbaq: Who the CB customers are is not the question here, but rather does this product have a place. I believe it does since not all of us are privileged enough to have race weekends held exclusively in resorts next to a bike shop. Even if we were and the electricity was freely available that would mean taking a compressor with you instead of a much smaller pump. There is also the issue of self sufficiency. Some of us don't like going around pits asking for favours.

Also, if you knew anything about product marketing you'd understand that, CB probably didn't make this with the aim of it being their best seller. This is a top shelf product aimed at a minority of their customers with cheaper products available to the masses.

In any case, it seems to me that you don't have a problem with the type of product this is but rather the company that made it.

 @Kamba6: I have an ARB compressor for almost the same price that I wired into my Tacoma that lives in my engine bay. Offers all of these benefits, AND I have reset several tubeless beads that would have ruined a trip otherwise and fixes flat tires. I'd say it is an fairly accurate comparison ( for someone in my circumstances, obv not for everyone)

 3" or 4" ABS pipe two end caps and a 1/2" ball valve, glue end caps on a piece of ABS thread one cap install 1/2" ball valve, add a hose and fitting. you pump up the ABS with your floor pump no power required, then connect hose to presta open ball valve tire is inflated.
It won't look as pretty as CB but for the amount of use it gets who the F cares, take your $280 and buy tires, rims, beer??

 @employee7: I could see it if you decided you wanted to switch out tires at a race because conditions had changed, so you needed to seat a tire. Or if you lived in an apartment, compressors are noisy. Or on a camping trip, if you slashed a sidewall and needed to put a new tire on. I agree it's overkill for normal use.

 @Connerv6: That's fair enough but as you rightly point out, your circumstances are a bit out of the ordinary. Not every vehicle is going to have the space in the engine bay. Especially not a vehicle made for the European market.

 A tire pump like this, I think could be hidden away pretty easy when your out on vacation. That makes a lot of sense to me. It could come in handy for others off on the same journey. An air compressor is not so handy. You'll power to keep it up after initial use. Leave that compressor in plain view. It's gone. Leave that pump out,,,, it has a better chance of not being stolen.

 @properp: @kamba6 I've used this guy to seat the beads many times. No need to install it into the car.
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 @properp: Thats why you take a generator with you as well ..and maybe some solar panels.

 @LBMTB: There is no denying that there are alternatives to this pump on the market (you could also use a CO2 cartridge) but that's not to say that this thing shouldn't exist.

There are similar pumps to this one priced in the same range as the compressor in your link, and then it comes down to personal preference. Personally, I'd much rather have a manual pump that has no reliance on electricity at all, since it adds to the portability of it and range of use. Would I spend $200 on it? I don't know. I'll think about that if I'm in the marked for such a product, but I have to say that this one looks better than any other similar pump I've seen so far and it has some interesting design solutions. It's also shiny, which goes a long way in MTB world when it comes to product selection.

I'd also add that the initial comment was most likely made with the work shop compressor in mind.

It just seems that some people (not including you here) will criticise anything made by CB or if they think the price is too high, just for the f**k of it.

 Ok. We all loved to hate CB but let's face it, those days are over.
No more rebuilding my eggbeaters (first 5 times are the hardest).
No more "yep, they're nice BUT".

In the meantime, I've switch to Time and Shimano and as soon as I manage to break them I'm back on CB.

 @pakleni: Funny--I just went to Time ATAC for a bit. Worked well, but one good rock strike to the springs and you learn that customer service is tough to come by and there are no user-serviceable parts... I'm back on Mallets now too.

 Nice to see you so pumped up about cb

 @pakleni: on e mallets now since inception and still bomb proof.. Not even close to a needed real build.. Awesome product!

 Never been happier than with my mallets

 I have a set of Twin-ti eggbeaters from about 2001 that are still going. I've probably only done 4 or 5 rebuilds on them. I've never had any troubles with CB pedals, but I've always gone for the higher end ones that come with bearings, never the cheap, stamped steel, bushing versions. I have Eggbeaters 11s on my Ripley, and Eggbeater 3s on my road bike. I have Mallets that I had on a freeride bike which I've sold, but I still bring those for renting downhill bikes. I also have a set of Acids I ran for a year or two, but now I only throw them on rarely, like if I don't want to switch the eggbeaters between bikes. I prefer the eggbeaters with my shoes. Anyway, I have a lot of CB pedals, and have never had issues with them, just the occasional rebuild, but more than a year for sure between rebuilds, and about 6 months on cleats. I only ride between 4000-6000 miles a year though.

I think CB caught a lot of flak because they made those cheaper options that really weren't mountain-worthy, and it soured the image of the whole brand. The performance of them was what you would expect from $40 pedals, that cost $40. Meanwhile Shimano didn't have cheap options, you got the XT or XTR, and they did just work. Even if they had Deore level pedals, I think people would have been able to differentiate between those and XT if they had issues, but the crank brother pedals all looked the same despite having vastly different levels of price and quality. In terms of their brand image, I think they would have been better off if they didn't even make the lowest level Eggbeater 1, and Candy 1, they just didn't hold up to real riding.

 Back to pumping...... usually my pumping only costs me about $100 after dinner, but it doesn't HAVE to be on the floor, but I won't say no to some floor pumping

 Ha!!! I am 8 years on the same Shimanos, I am glad about your mallets but I have a couple of rubbish from CB and will cost me a fortune to fix them.

 This jealousy becomes you. Green really is your color.

 This is some good trolling! Upvote for you sir!

 @wibblywobbly: Only inflate the tire, not the rim.

But what do I know about Enve. Still don't understand what Minnaar had hanging off his rim last weekend.

 Wait until you hear about the coffee I had this morning. Single plant freshly aged roasted beans straight from a tiny village in the middle of fukung nowhere.

 They might still be funny, but they sure dont seem accurate!

 I dunno, i think they're still kinda funny. Can we still poke fun at them and acknowledge that their quality has improved?

 I use my Bontrager Charger for cyclocross & road tubeless as they are still challenging as hell even with all the fun tricks (bead slip etc). Don't need it for most MTB tires except WTB in my experience.

 @gumbytex $0.75 at the local gas station

 I would love to see your setup. How much volume do you have in the pipe? I use a (ducktape) reinforced 2l coke bottle to my absolute satisfaction. I tried up to 140 psi, (with gogles and ear protection). But to start a tubess setup I actually never needed more than 100 psi. It cost me about $ 1 for a short pvc tube. And i used 2 valves from an old tube. I prefer to spend on components that I actually ride with.

 @IluvRIDING: I've done the same and got rid of my Bontrager Flash Charger. It works better and cost me $3 for the tubing from a hardware store. I brought my stem in from the tube I hacked up and told them what I wanted to do. They were totally behind me getting out of there cheap. Here's the video I used to build mine. youtu.be/EtmatxJG_zg

 I need to figure out how much charge the spare tire of my car is designed to accept. I only need 2.2bar to drive. So if I inflate it to 6bar or so (I've seen that on trailers and they also had that on the cars at the skid course) that'd be enough to set a tire, wouldn't it? I wouldn't trust myself with 6bar in a PVC tube.

 This is for free or less than $5. youtu.be/EtmatxJG_zg

 Hey @macross87 , while it's maybe not the most flattering picture of our product, we've designed the hose to be very flexible for ease of use!

 @crankbrothers: LOL I didn't expect a response. No insult intended.

 @macross87: I thought you were funny

 @crankbrothers: Any limp hose pictures aren't flattering....its ok, we're all in this together

 @bikezonemiss Hey there! The bottom left photo in the article is an accurate depiction of the orientation of the gauge during inflation. Right-side up while pumping.

 @SacAssassin @smahsnuk:

Hi guys! While it's true that we did have some quality issues a few years back, we've put a priority on the durability of our products to create a better experience for riders of all types.

Our current approach to R&D and product testing was covered extensively during our "Ask Us Anything" with Pinkbike - check it out here: www.pinkbike.com/news/ask-us-anything-crankbrothers-monday-june-27-1000-pst.html

As for our Klic pump, we've tested the heck out of it in both laboratory and real-world conditions and we're confident it'll serve riders flawlessly for years to come. Of course, we've also added a 5 year warranty for peace of mind!

 @crankbrothers: Good on you for not shying away from the comments section, and even referring back to old articles highlighting your past issues. I like that kind of openness, and wouldn't mind trying out your new dropper post.

 You might as well buy 2

 If you are going on a mountain bike trip by car, or even plane you are not gonna have room for a compressor but might be able to throw this in.