Video: Friday Fails #180

 easily this weeks winner

 Perfectly placed puddle

 into the shitter

 I would like to nominate that clip for funniest fail ever caught on video.

 YES! Not sure what the deal is, but it’s been noticed.
I have 4 minutes blocked off Friday mornings between Zoom calls and it has been a problem.

 better timed for the lunch crowd traffic on the east coast?

 I though it has gone behind the paywall already.

 Buff Creek BlackJack made the cut this week!

 ...but it was an above average FF I would say.

 Same, I laughed out loud a few times this week, along with the usual "oh sh*t" cringes.

 Well I can say for sure, Outside, that this edition of FF was worth every cent I paid to watch it, but not a penny more....

 They are probably really starting to question their purchase decision.

 Hey outSide! market research ma dick

 there were a couple this time that I'd consider saves.

 @gtill9000: Should I mention more? 0:55 , 1:02 , 2:51 (debatable)

 This episode has some of the worst jumpers I’ve ever seen

 Did you never crash learning to jump? Do you never crash now knowing how to jump? People should develop skills slowly and not try difficult/high risk jumps until they are very confident, but I think we have all gotten that wrong at some point. If you are lucky it went wrong when you were young and less likely to get hurt and now it is forgotten in the mists of time, but if you picked up this hobby later in life (I started doing MTB when I was 42, DH when I was 44), these could be any one of us. I know I have done almost every fail shown here.

 It may sound f*cked up to say, but I think in some ways MTB is too approachable now. Noobs get encouraged to "just send it" by the internet, and flow trails allow them to ride all day without being punished for flaws in their riding. Then they get confidence and encouragement and eat shit when their luck inevitably runs out.

Just the other week I had to scold a friend of a friend who was on his second ride. He got hooked on YouTube whistler vids and wouldn't hear anything about taking it easy and starting slow. After his second crash of the day I had to stop being the nice encouraging rider and straight up tell him he was going to get f*cked up if he kept trying to ride like he saw on YouTube. You can ruin your life or even die mountain biking and new riders need to be taught that they need to take safety seriously.

 @4thflowkage: I agree that FF makes crashes look like fun. I can remember going over the handlebars many times, even on rocks, and coming out unscathed. Great Fun! Then one day over the handlebars ended up with two broken ribs. Its Ok to take risks, but newbies should be encouraged to start and progress slowly. Especially if you started mountain biking in your fifties!

 @4thflowkage - I was with you until you start scolding your friends.

 @gtill9000: It needed to happen. I wasn't a dick about it, but it would have been irresponsible to let this guy hurt himself. Overshooting jumps on a Giant Reign from 2005 on your second ride is not ok. I thought he had broken his ankle after the first crash and he still wouldn't chill. It's the equivalent of having a friend you downs too many shots, yaks, then tries to keep drinking.

 @4thflowkage: Stop and just get out the camera, Outside needs more user content to put behind the paywall. Where would Friday fails be without idiots who think they are WC level riders.

 @4thflowkage: Need a little more calculated risk instead of just getting sendy AF. We've had one death and one broken neck in my local park in the last 12 months. I love the scope and scale riding has reached, but there should be a smidge of respect brought with it too. Two years ago one of the big lines got bulldozed because a novice got hauled off on a stretcher - sometimes the consequences effect more than just the broken rider.

 @4thflowkage: I’m definitely glad I started on a hard tail and not riding park. What your friend’s friend was doing sounds terrifying and I think I would also have said something. I warn people that Angel Fire is not a place to learn to ride and the group I ride with advised people away all the time.

But in this set of vids, I only see I think three people who should absolutely not have been trying what they were doing. Maybe there are others, but I can’t tell from the videos whether they were just off form that time, or if they were riding above their skill level.

I’ve crashed on jumps I’ve cleared a hundred times before, sometimes because I’m pushing it with getting stylish, but also occasionally I just eff up and get out of shape and crash the landing.

I’ve got a bit over 100 runs in this year, and this was my first time hitting the ground this year. It was a section of trail I have literally ridden hundreds of times, just went in too hot over trail that was getting blown out, and lost my line, but I’m sure it would have looked like a noob getting to far out of depth.

Anyway, I agree that we need to be better about safety, especially at parks. I’ve seen more injured people this year than in previous years and a friend of a friend was paralyzed last week in a blue jump line. I kinds wish parks had to publish injury stats so people know just how consequential accidents can be.

Be safe out there!

 @4thflowkage: Wow nanny state action, I thought getting confident and eating sh*t when your luck runs out was part of mountain biking and I am old, and have been riding MTB since the 80s. Eating sh*t on a mountain bike because you go for it is nothing like as stupid as stuff people do all the time driving.
With all due respect it sounds like your friend is just making you look overcautious

 @4thflowkage: c'mon, it's just like riding a bike....

 @mervyn1: I don't think I've ever thought any of the FF crashes looked fun. I'm mostly very glad it's not me. Still very entertaining though.

 @4thflowkage: to be fair if mouthing biking wasn’t becoming more popular, there wouldn’t be half as many trails to ride or riders to do trail work. Also crashing is part of riding. I crashed hundreds of times learning how to jump and no it won’t ruin your life lol

 @PACNW-MTB: yeah sounds like a bunch of elitist pansys in this thread. Ooo to many people mtb now, they crash and could get hurt o nooo get a fcking life

 @mkotowski1: Yep, 4thflowkage called MTB, "Too approachable", WTF does that even mean?

So, it is just, "approachable" enough for him, but for others it is, "too approachable"?

He rambles on to say, "flow trails allow them to ride all day without being punished for flaws in their riding. Then they get confidence and encouragement and eat shit when their luck inevitably runs out"

UMMMM...REALLY? I'm pretty sure this is how it has been for just about anything...since the dawn of time....it's called a learning curve, and it is each riders' responsibility to know their individual limits and risk thresholds.

If someone who has watched countless Whistler videos is too clueless to understand that there is a skill progression to get to that level, they DESERVE to break a collarbone. It's nature's way of taking care of things and it has been quite effective for many, many years...

I am getting really tired of the self-righteous, pompous, nanny-state mentality I see surrounding me. In my opinion, it is far more offensive than an ignorant racist.

 @mkotowski1: Speaking for the elitist pansys who are already on the new PB beta paywall site ( you great unwashed shall never see it), we simply can't stand all you peasants on you aluminum framed sub 10,000$ "bikes", if you can even call them that, interrupting the flow of our ebike rides. Your jumps and gaggles of Insta snap tube posting "photographers" simply make us sick. We don't need to see videos ( except for your fails) and selfies of every minute of your simpleton lives go back to your video games.

 @pcmxa: ride trails long enough and you'll have done them all

 @wheelforge: I've done MTB since I bought a sweet red Fisher in 1987, 2nd bike actually. Eating shit deff is part of it, but there is no doubt most bikes and trails today make going faster (than than those old bikes did) a lot easier. If the average get-off is happening at higher speeds these days, prolly any injuries are worse as well. 4thflowkage points are valid, I'm saying the posts calling BS on him aren't well thought out. I don't want to get certified to ride my local trail center, but some change around trail safety may be a good idea.

 @flaflow: What is wrong with simply allowing each individual assessing their skills and any given trail they might want to ride?

If they think they can handle it and can't, they have only harmed themselves.

I will submit that you are the one whose proposition isn't well thought out. On one hand you don't want to have to go through a vetting or certification process to ride trails, but you arbitrarily mention, "some change around trail safety". I will take that to mean sanitizing local trail systems to meet the needs of the lowest common denominator. Do you really want someone dictating what is, "safe" and assuring that all trails are, "safe"? Do the math......that would reduce all trails to, well, sidewalks........

If you disagree, by all means, give us YOUR well thought out plan that works best for all levels of mountain bikers, I would love to hear it!

 @PACNW-MTB: I have no problem with individuals assessing their own skills. But I do think a bit more transparency about risks would be good as it gives that assessment context.

Like that section of Portal telling you how many people have died there. It would be interesting to see some sort of injury stats posted just so people are informed what the risk is and could use that to asses their skill against risk and reward. No need for a nanny state. Just give people info and let them ride.

 @PACNW-MTB: You are twisting a lot of what I'm saying in order to make a big shithouse about nothing. I love beginners and don't think they should be blindly encouraged. Assessing risk is as fundamental a skill in mountain biking as cornering or braking and it doesn't really get talked about enough.

I think you have spun me up in your head into some pearl clutching busybody, and I think you should put more energy into your counter point rather than making character assumptions or acting you like don't understand what I'm saying.

Also, thinking that beginner who don't know what they are doing should break bones is shitty, and saying cyclists being mildly douchey is WORSE THAN BEING RACIST makes you a crusty a*shole.

 @flaflow: the ones I’m not looking forward to are nose casing a gap jump and butt braking a drop.

 @PACNW-MTB: I think it's more an issue of just safety education for the new wave of riders. Personally I've been leading group rides when new folks show up - which is ideal right? we want more people spending their $$ on bikes and funding trails. Said new folks saw some seasoned rider send it big, and then decided that it looked so easy, they should do it to - this all happened to the tune of the rider getting so broken that we ended up being the responsible party calling 911 and then contacting their family after the incident. Like some of the other guys in the thread, I'm creeping up on 3 decades of riding and racing. We used to take our lumps - maybe break an arm or leg - but the scale of catastrophic crashes are creeping up to a new level. That being said - 3 major times in my life someone else's crash has lead to local trails being demolished. One of those times I was directly part of the initial fund-raising (just north of $250k) to implement a machine built trail - opening day a high profile local rider broke themselves, and the following week every feature was destroyed. It's literally a dirt sidewalk now - sometimes it's worth reminding people that they should bring some respect, as their actions can have consequences beyond their own injury.

 @4thflowkage: Well, you've just proven what kind of scruples you have as a person, as I never attacked you, you actually projected on me things I never said and are not true.

I would also venture to say that you are a complete hypocrite by calling me a crusty a*shole when I have cast no dispersions at you and have been nothing but respectful to you and your opinions in this thread.

 @wheelforge: One of the New England states ( can't remember which one) puts up " XX Moose collisions on this stretch of highway" signs, may each major jump should have a sign with the number of ER visits!

We didn't have the MeTubers giving us all the crazy ideas and certainly didn't have bikes that the average rider could do +30mph down what we call a blue trail today. At 18-25 I would be doing that crazy shit and eating dirt. This elitist pansy will stick to watching the kids do it and complain about it in the comments until Outside takes it away from us.

 You really can spot OTB from the first milisecond of the edit.

 @4thflowkage: ER techs gotta eat, too.

 A bit more speed and he would have made it all the way to Saturday Sends.

 I have to say. This is probably the greatest stack I have ever seen. And the one just before it.

The commitment.
The confidence.
The absolute conviction that it was going to work out.

I love it so much. It’s horrendous.

 CathroDerisionVision.

 Hahaha!

 Ha - I thought that was it, I got my concussion on that in Sept, got tired of waiting for my Ripmo to be delivered and was like "how hard can BlackJack be at Buff creek?" - rode my Timberjack and found out the hard way.

 @mtnsnap: aw man...the Ripmo would have done all the work for you.

 @mtnsnap: Yeesh, sorry to hear that. I got bouted on Hit Me – I think that one needs another diamond. Stout, beautiful, visionary trail.

 @ReformedRoadie: lol, I think the proper comment is "Ibis to the rescue"

 ...saved from a far worse fate...but still a fail. What is not a fail...the stars of the clip, the furry support team hot on the rider post crash

 "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means"

 @disruptiveone
Yep, definitely a Sunday save!

 I had the same question. I want to go to there.

 And what camera is he using? Looks mint

 XXX baby! I swear that trail's in here almost every other week. Hands down the greatest hand-built mtb jump trail I've ever ridden. By far my fave. Usually it's the booter at the end that makes it though... glad to see the step down to step up combo made it this week.

 I knew what it was and yet I still clicked.

 Lots of Rona hidden behind paywalls in the woods, gotta mask-up when doing cardiovascular activities.

 @mbosko7: Haha good point

 kneepads? nah mask? o yeahh

 @mm732: right? on the bike path, tons of people with mask but no helmet...
virus - no f'ing way.
concussion or traumatic brain injury - I'll take my chances.

 @ReformedRoadie: I 110% agree with that

 I ride that trail regularly. That is a terrible spot for a turn at the bottom of a good sized rock waterfall. I’ve almost pulled that move a few times while trying to intentionally clear that last rock waterfall.

Trail design based off assuming people won’t be riding aggressively is bad trail design.

 it's actually the HSR you'd want to be slowing down on the rear to avoid being bucked into dead sailor territories.

 If you're relying on rebound tuning to not get bucked off jumps, your technique is bad.

 @quinnltd: Sure slowing down rebound alone isn't going to make you a better jumper but it is going to make your bike feel more composed and buck less. I usually like to add a click or 2 of HSR in the rear if I'm hitting bigger jump lines. It's good to have proper suspension set up and good technique.

 Everyone realizes that HSR/LSR has nothing to do with the return speed of the wheel right? It only has to do with wheel position, adding LSR keeps the wheel from extending too quickly back at the top of the travel.

You know like when the rear wheel is popping off the lip of a jump...

For reference: bikerumor.com/2017/11/30/suspension-tech-whats-the-difference-between-high-low-speed-rebound

Compression damping is shaft speed sensitive.

Of course shock tuning is not going to make you a better jumper, but it can reduce bucking from the wheel extending too quickly.

 @salespunk: You have me a bit confused here. First you say rebound has nothing to do with return speed of the wheel then you go on to say LSR keeps the wheel from extending too quickly. Isn't that the same thing?
I don't have an extensive knowledge of suspension tuning, I just turn the knobs until it feels good but the setup manual for my float X2 does say to add more HSR for more control on jumps and it feels like it makes a difference to me.

 @shami: I think mr salesman is thinking the L and H refer to low and high position rather than speed. not that it matters (regarding getting bucked), the shock’s rebound force is not going to buck you, but riding like a sack of potatoes definitely will . Or just poor timing.

 @shami: I meant to say H/L rebound adjustments are not relative to shaft speed, they are relative to shaft position. HSR controls rebound speed from bottom out mid travel, LSR controls rebound speed from mid travel to top out.

This is different from HSC which controls faster shaft speed and LSC which controls lower shaft speeds

 @salespunk: hsr/lsr damping is still speed sensitive (hence the s), just so happens that rebound speed wants to be higher deeper in the travel. If it were position sensitive one wouldn’t effect the other and they certainly do. I think the main point here is that while too fast rebound can make the bike squirrelly and not planted, it’s not really effecting your weight bias or anything at jump take-off.

 @salespunk: every friday fails the misconception that people need to turn their rebound up to avoid getting bucked is mentioned..

 ...aren't the clips voluntarily submitted to PB by the user with full knowledge that they'll be used without compensation? (don't answer that, it' yes). The compensation is the thrill knowing everyone is watching you plant it/send it/save it. Not sure what the issue is.

 @SATN-XC: lmao you absolute sheep. If you'd been paying any attention at all on your rides, if you had a shred of awareness, you may have noticed Mike Levy hiding in a bush or up a tree waiting very patiently to film you failing. Go run along and let your Ibis do the job, you'll see.

 @HaggeredShins: lol

 It it weight too far back? His arms are dead straight out in front of him. Front wheel goes over jump and plops down the other side but his overweighted rear takes the ballistics trajectory (the same one his front wheel should have taken) and then it's OTB. Watch the front wheel only a few times. Then watch the rear wheel.

That one and the second last one would have not have happened had they watched Ben Cathro's body position vid from the other day.