Praxis says that their 11 - 40 tooth Wide Range 10spd Cassette is ''
made for the mountain bike rider that needs just a little deeper climbing gear, but refuses to give up performance,'' which is a phrase that probably describes a lot of riders out there. A bit wider gearing range, particularly on the low-end of things, can make life much easier, especially for those of us on longer-travel or heavier bikes that we huff to the top of the mountain because of how much fun they are on the way back down. The 11 - 40 tooth spread of the Praxis cassette means that the biggest cog is four teeth larger than the 36 tooth cog on a stock Shimano or SRAM ten-speed block, a fact that raises the question, "Why you wouldn't just go with one of the many add-on cog options that extend the range of the cassette you already own?"
Praxis' answer to that is that they've taken the entire gearing range into consideration with the 11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-34-40 spread, a tactic that they say removes the sometimes awkward steps between gears that some riders can notice when using an add-on cog with a cassette that wasn't designed with that in mind. The company also says that the 40 tooth large cog, while not quite offering the ease of a 42 tooth cog, doesn't require modifying your derailleur with a longer B-tension screw.
Like other cassettes out there, Praxis has used steel for the smaller cogs that would otherwise wear too quickly, but they've gone with lighter weight aluminum on the larger cogs that see more chain wrap and possibly less use. The bottom five (
11, 13, 15, 17 and 19) are all loose cogs with aluminum spacers between them, while the 21, 24 and 28 tooth cogs are steel but are all pinned to an aluminum carrier. The largest two cogs, the 34 and 40, are aluminum and both share the same aluminum carrier. The $130 USD cassette also comes from Praxis with an orange anodized aluminum lock ring, and the all of the above came in at 323 grams on our digital scale.
www.praxiscycles.comInstallation and PerformanceThere is no trick to installing the Praxis cassette. It goes on just like any other cassette does, and all you'll need is a chain whip and lock ring tools to remove your old block and install the Praxis cogs. The cassette spent months fitted to an aluminum driver body that I expected to see a bit gouged up when I removed the Praxis cogs to shoot photos, but it wasn't any worse than when I had installed the cassette. It slid off easily, without the need to pry it off with a screwdriver or tap it from the backside, which is more than I can say for the cogs that were on there previously.
Shift quality was pretty good, but it never seemed to be as spot-on as when the bike was running the stock cassette, especially when bringing the chain down off the 40 tooth cog. I'd say it was 95% there, but no amount of tinkering with the shifter's barrel adjuster let me find that last 5 percent. To be fair, the difference was small enough that I'd probably be hard pressed to take notice of it had I not been riding with that in mind, and it could possibly be down to other variables. The gearing spread does feel great, though, with no awkwardness between jumps that can happen with some other setups, but it did take a bit to get used to the lack of the 36 tooth largest cog that was on the end of ten-speed cassette that it replaced. This is because some of our climbs are steep enough that it's compulsory to go straight to the easiest gear and the bike's chain ring was chosen with this in mind. Now, with the 40 tooth large cog, the gearing was obviously a bit easier, but it felt more productive to be turning over the 34 tooth cog at a bit slower cadence than it did to spin up in the 40 tooth. The bottom line is that the Praxis cassette gives you that option, whereas the stock cassette didn't. The cassette still looks near-new as well, which is a good sign when talking about longevity.
Pinkbike’s Take: | So does the Praxis cassette make sense? For comparison's sake, SRAM's ten-speed, X9-level PG-1070 cassette has a claimed weight of 359 grams with a 12 - 36 tooth spread and costs $119 USD, while Shimano's SLX ten-speed block weighs 368 grams in an 11 - 36 spread and costs $64.99 USD. Adding OneUp's 40 and 16 tooth combo setup to either of those will cost you another $85 USD and is said to up the weight by around 51 grams, which is math that makes the $130 USD Praxis cassette look pretty darn good. Some riders will simply want the largest cog, and therefore the easiest gear, that they can get their hands on, so they'll probably be looking at a 42 tooth add-on cog regardless. But riders who want a bit wider gearing range without any strange jumps should take a look at the Praxis cassette. - Mike Levy |
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That could be your missing 5% of shifting performance
Other than the slightly annoying shift issue (and it could be my own bad tuning skills) the cassette has been awesome. Went on like a charm and has added that little extra gearing range to make those climbs that would have otherwise been that much harder.
The 130 dollar price tag? sweet!
Thats not just a new cog thats a new cluster.
Lighter and way bether shifting. And the price for the chain shifter derailier and cassettr isn t that much. I couldn t buy a xo1 or xx1 cassette eoth the price of this all
If you still have 9 speed, there is no point in even considering 10s if you're going to a 1x setup. You can get XT 11 speed cassette and shifter for less than Praxis
If you're looking to change from 9 speed to 10spd Zee setup and 3 Praxis cassettes, the Praxis makes even less sense at £344 vs £319 for M8000 with 3 cassettes or £291 if you buy from Bike24.
Praxis go home, You're Drunk !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all you have to do find a site that price match.
I have seen the cassette for $90, derailer $75 and shifter for $40.
Price match everything on one site. After the match is approved, you have a month to make the purchase. Hold tight and wait for a coupon to come in, 5-10% off and deal done.
agreed "pb could be kind enough to do a chain shootout."
11-40T-410g
11-42T-450g
That's heeavvvy
To be honest I would have no use for a 9T out back, I don't know of any descents where I would look for a 9T for any length of time with a 33T up front. There are road sections where the gear is not enough, but they are just transit section to get from one trail to another... just chill out on them and get ready for the fun ahead.
When you ride in the UK you do not appreciate what the 40T is for. If you ever get the chance to go to California and ride some of the long and steeper climbs there on a sandy surface then you will understand what the 40T is for. (we don't have climbs like that in the UK!!!!!)
www.mtbproject.com/trail/1004114
www.mtbproject.com/trail/3592216/skyline-wilderness-park
The hard way up Skyline (the way I wish I had not gone) is tight switchbacks into steep rocky starts, the average grade is a 10% for over 0.5 miles and there is no rest, no let up to the gradient. You need a rest in between the corners (the locals I met laughed that I even tried to go up this way as nobody tries who knows... ) I would have loved a smaller gear for the 10% gradients between the really steep bits. It has nearly 2000ft of climbing, Skyline is a more demanding climb as it is pretty relentless for 3 to 4 miles, on a sandy surface. The descent is super fun though, nothing technical, some nice wee jumps and 2 sides to the valley to ride down, the more technical side is old school, tight and loose.
It ain't the same game around here compared to California climbs, we only have small hills compared to other parts of the world.
When you ride in the UK you do not appreciate what the 40T is for. If you ever get the chance to go to California and ride some of the long and steeper climbs there on a sandy surface then you will understand what the 40T is for. (we don't have climbs like that in the UK!!!!!)"
I've had that argument with others...For 1x I'd rather have the low end climbing gear than the high range as I've never felt like I really needed to pedal where its fast, steep and gnarly. For fire roads, who cares, I'm not trying to win a race so I'm not concerned if I wind out. Running a 11 x 40 with a 28 up front. Climbs most any steeps and I let gravity take care of the rest.
And there ARE derailleurs meant for wide range cassettes. It's called XX1 and XT M8000 (and XTR). In a few years we'll all be 11 speed on GX or something like that.
Just the shimano stuff requires messing around to get to work right with cogs > 36t
For $200 you can get:
Xt 11 cassette
Xt 11 rear derailer
Xt 11 front shifter
Like this, about 320g for a 9-speed 11-40 cassette www.pinkbike.com/photo/12720265
11-speed is marketing gimmick, not a consumer need and should be avoided.
www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1517386
www.pinkbike.com/video/351634
you can have it all