Review: Praxis Wide Range 10spd Cassette

Sep 24, 2015 at 16:57
by Mike Levy  
Praxis 10 speed wide range cassette review test


Praxis says that their 11 - 40 tooth Wide Range 10spd Cassette is ''made for the mountain bike rider that needs just a little deeper climbing gear, but refuses to give up performance,'' which is a phrase that probably describes a lot of riders out there. A bit wider gearing range, particularly on the low-end of things, can make life much easier, especially for those of us on longer-travel or heavier bikes that we huff to the top of the mountain because of how much fun they are on the way back down. The 11 - 40 tooth spread of the Praxis cassette means that the biggest cog is four teeth larger than the 36 tooth cog on a stock Shimano or SRAM ten-speed block, a fact that raises the question, "Why you wouldn't just go with one of the many add-on cog options that extend the range of the cassette you already own?"

Praxis' answer to that is that they've taken the entire gearing range into consideration with the 11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-34-40 spread, a tactic that they say removes the sometimes awkward steps between gears that some riders can notice when using an add-on cog with a cassette that wasn't designed with that in mind. The company also says that the 40 tooth large cog, while not quite offering the ease of a 42 tooth cog, doesn't require modifying your derailleur with a longer B-tension screw.


Praxis 10 speed wide range cassette review test
Praxis 10 speed wide range cassette review test


Like other cassettes out there, Praxis has used steel for the smaller cogs that would otherwise wear too quickly, but they've gone with lighter weight aluminum on the larger cogs that see more chain wrap and possibly less use. The bottom five (11, 13, 15, 17 and 19) are all loose cogs with aluminum spacers between them, while the 21, 24 and 28 tooth cogs are steel but are all pinned to an aluminum carrier. The largest two cogs, the 34 and 40, are aluminum and both share the same aluminum carrier. The $130 USD cassette also comes from Praxis with an orange anodized aluminum lock ring, and the all of the above came in at 323 grams on our digital scale. www.praxiscycles.com


Praxis 10 speed wide range cassette review test
Praxis 10 speed wide range cassette review test


Installation and Performance

There is no trick to installing the Praxis cassette. It goes on just like any other cassette does, and all you'll need is a chain whip and lock ring tools to remove your old block and install the Praxis cogs. The cassette spent months fitted to an aluminum driver body that I expected to see a bit gouged up when I removed the Praxis cogs to shoot photos, but it wasn't any worse than when I had installed the cassette. It slid off easily, without the need to pry it off with a screwdriver or tap it from the backside, which is more than I can say for the cogs that were on there previously.

Shift quality was pretty good, but it never seemed to be as spot-on as when the bike was running the stock cassette, especially when bringing the chain down off the 40 tooth cog. I'd say it was 95% there, but no amount of tinkering with the shifter's barrel adjuster let me find that last 5 percent. To be fair, the difference was small enough that I'd probably be hard pressed to take notice of it had I not been riding with that in mind, and it could possibly be down to other variables. The gearing spread does feel great, though, with no awkwardness between jumps that can happen with some other setups, but it did take a bit to get used to the lack of the 36 tooth largest cog that was on the end of ten-speed cassette that it replaced. This is because some of our climbs are steep enough that it's compulsory to go straight to the easiest gear and the bike's chain ring was chosen with this in mind. Now, with the 40 tooth large cog, the gearing was obviously a bit easier, but it felt more productive to be turning over the 34 tooth cog at a bit slower cadence than it did to spin up in the 40 tooth. The bottom line is that the Praxis cassette gives you that option, whereas the stock cassette didn't. The cassette still looks near-new as well, which is a good sign when talking about longevity.


Praxis 10 speed wide range cassette review test


Pinkbike’s Take:
bigquotesSo does the Praxis cassette make sense? For comparison's sake, SRAM's ten-speed, X9-level PG-1070 cassette has a claimed weight of 359 grams with a 12 - 36 tooth spread and costs $119 USD, while Shimano's SLX ten-speed block weighs 368 grams in an 11 - 36 spread and costs $64.99 USD. Adding OneUp's 40 and 16 tooth combo setup to either of those will cost you another $85 USD and is said to up the weight by around 51 grams, which is math that makes the $130 USD Praxis cassette look pretty darn good. Some riders will simply want the largest cog, and therefore the easiest gear, that they can get their hands on, so they'll probably be looking at a 42 tooth add-on cog regardless. But riders who want a bit wider gearing range without any strange jumps should take a look at the Praxis cassette. - Mike Levy



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128 Comments
  • 62 3
 I'd be interested to know if the chain / cables / housing that were used on the brand new Praxis cassette were all brand new as well. It would be a shame to discredit the Praxis cassette when the rest of the drivetrain isn't performing as well as it could have been either.

That could be your missing 5% of shifting performance Smile
  • 11 5
 so PB deleting comments as usual...
  • 12 0
 @iffy, maybe the chinese bought pb?
  • 4 0
 I have this cassette and purchased when they first came out. For the cost, like the article says, it was great in comparison to adding a 40t/42t and 16t to my current cassette. Shifting has been good, not great but good as I have a small skip in the middle of the range (somewhere between 19-24) that is annoying but has not directly impacted my riding. When installing I was able to use my old chain, shift cable and housing without issue. I had installed a new chain that promptly had a pin seize and was causing shift issues.

Other than the slightly annoying shift issue (and it could be my own bad tuning skills) the cassette has been awesome. Went on like a charm and has added that little extra gearing range to make those climbs that would have otherwise been that much harder.
  • 1 0
 I also have this. With a type 2 medium cage this product shifts perfectly. Ive put about 500 miles on it with no problems. Personally i think this is a far better option for a 1x than the alternatives.
  • 41 2
 this is good. the entire cassette for a little more than only an extender ring.
  • 16 1
 is guuuuuuuuuuuud
  • 8 2
 Finally. Jeezus.
  • 6 2
 this will be my next drive train...very nice.
  • 7 3
 If you're paying 130$ for an extender ring you're getting swindled
  • 5 0
 How much are you paying for the cassette to go with the ring is the point though
  • 1 2
 Hey,you rich people out there can as much as you want. Uberbike has a ton of nice colors for their expander rings and costs 48$,check it out => www.uberbikecomponents.com/category/460/Expander-Sprockets
  • 1 1
 *can pay as much as you want
  • 20 1
 Praxis = quality. I've used their PF to gxp adapter and nothing but the same level of performance from when it was first installed after being used through some very nasty conditions. Their Cassette makes sense on many levels.
  • 1 0
 I have their PF bottom bracket on my cross bike. Can't stop the creaking! Sanity wins, going to chris king.
  • 17 1
 11 40 spread at a little over 320 grams. That is impressive in its own rights.
The 130 dollar price tag? sweet!
Thats not just a new cog thats a new cluster.
  • 5 0
 I considered it but with the current exchange rate, it still a little cheaper to buy a conventional cassette with the range extender and if you buy canadian (one up), plus you don't have to deal with the custom's voodoo magic.
  • 11 2
 I don't see how a 34-40t jump is any better than a 36 to 42t jump... F*** it I'm going shimano xt 11spd...
  • 6 0
 Something I've noticed worth considering is the width difference between a 10 and 11 speed chain. When you run a race face nw ring for example the wider 10 speed chain seems to run smoother across the teeth whereas an 11 speed tends to grind more in adverse conditions. Not a deal breaker either way really but this cassette makes a 10 speed drivetrain seem, dare I say, better depending on where you ride.
  • 3 0
 It's not about the jump, its the closeness it allows the guide pulley to track below the cassette. 42 makes it so every gear is farther from the derailleur guide pulley. 40 is within the limits the derailleur was designed for. 42 isn't. It makes all the gears shift like crap, not just the big shift.
  • 20 5
 Cant we just use 11-36 10 speed cogs and upgrade our legs (practice)? Its free and more fun.
  • 7 2
 Aint' enough free hours in the year for me to be fit enough to get up Derbyshire hills! If you go as big as a 42t on the back, you can comfortable run a 36t on the front and have the best of top end and climbing, all in a 1x package. Best of all worlds.
  • 3 1
 @bluechair84 It's all in where you live. I'm running a 1x9 setup. 11-34 cassette with a RaceFace 32 tooth ring, an ancient Blackspire pulley, and a 2010 XO long cage derailleur. It's light, efficient, and PERFECT for where I use the bike now. I have no plans to change anything out. However, living somewhere with longer, steeper climbs would definitely dictate a different setup.
  • 1 0
 Absolutely, all about having what you need for your hills. I watched a video today (from bikeradar) which made the bold claim that Sram made 1x gearing a real option for people... completely forgetting that riders like you and I have been dropping gears off a triple chainset for years.
  • 7 0
 These are £90 over here. I would personally still struggle up the steeper hills that spend almost £100 on a cassette. If this is what the majority of riders want then the demand is there for the Shimano to produce a different spread SLX and sell if for the same price their current one goes for, which was £26 for the last one I purchased a month ago.
  • 5 4
 Simply buy 1*11 shimano xt.way bether than my last set up of a 10 speed xt cassette with a 42 cog.
Lighter and way bether shifting. And the price for the chain shifter derailier and cassettr isn t that much. I couldn t buy a xo1 or xx1 cassette eoth the price of this all
  • 4 1
 Shimano has moved on. The next we see from them will be 11-speed SLX. They almost never "go back" and "redo" stuff.
  • 2 2
 Amen brother. 11speed shimano is the way. They changed everything about it, including cable pull ratio, so the shift accuracy and reliability is unparalleled.
  • 8 1
 $130usd =$170 CAD plus shipping makes this cassette the most expensive option in Canada. An . E13 $80 or Hope, $95 or OneUp $104 plus a shimano XT 11-36 $65 will all be cheaper.While the Praxis would be marginally lighter. its debatable whether it performs any better and has no 42t option

If you still have 9 speed, there is no point in even considering 10s if you're going to a 1x setup. You can get XT 11 speed cassette and shifter for less than Praxis
  • 2 0
 I bought mine from England and imported into Canukistan. Total cost was about 140.00 cdn. Running it with an X0 shifter and X9 mid cage derailleur. LOVING IT!!
  • 2 6
flag h-beck83 (Sep 25, 2015 at 5:37) (Below Threshold)
 .....but with that 11 spd shifter and cassette you need a new free hub body or possibly a new hub so the praxis is the best bargain.
  • 6 3
 I used this cassette for the last two months before selling the bike it was on. One thing you forget to mention when comparing to an add on cog like OneUp is the fact that you get a whole cassette, not just a cog. That's a pretty big deal when the pricing is very similar. This cassette rules, it helped the bike I had it on climb on a completely different level (as to be expected with expanded gearing). The product was quality, it didn't even look hardly worn compared to the stock cassette I took off and I rode close to every day for those two months.
  • 12 0
 Pretty sure that was taken into consideration in many aspects of this article.
  • 2 0
 I put one of these on my bike and it worked flawlessly. Shifting up and down was butter! I found exactly what they say here.....that the little differences between the gears really was nice when shifting lots through the trees. I noticed it right away and ride alot of trails that are punchy so was a welcome improvement for better pedaling output.
  • 1 0
 The Praxis cassette in operation: I've been using one of these cassettes for a couple of weeks now, on my road bike. The rear derailleur is a Deore XT 9 speed which works fine with my MicroShift 10 speed levers. Shifting on and off the two largest cogs was a bit of a problem using a new SRAM chain, but things improved a bit when I switched to a new KMC chain. The KMC measures ,006" narrower at the pins than the SRAM chain. Still, when shifting down from the 40 tooth cog you're likely to miss the 34 tooth and end up on the 28. Seems that the difference in teeth is just a bit much to handle and maybe a 36 tooth cog would have worked much better. Endless fiddling with the derailleur didn't improve the situation. The Deore derailleur just clears the 40 tooth cog with a bit of room to spare when the B screw is turned in all the way.
  • 1 0
 I've been running this for about 300 miles now. The range is great although it is a bit harder to set up. Seems to be more dependent on having a straight hanger. My only gripe is that I snapped a tooth off the second largest gear. I've never done this before. I'm assuming it is some sort of material quality or heat treatment issue.
  • 1 0
 Or it could have been a luck of the draw sort of thing. Aluminum cassette gears does seem dangerous, most people, even pros, will have a rough shift occasionally, and it occurs back on the cassette, usually headed toward those aluminum teeth.
  • 2 0
 It also seems that praxis is going to do the right thing about this so, I'm back to being 100% happy.
  • 1 0
 Very cool. Yeah they seem legit.
  • 2 0
 I have this cassette on 2 of my bikes and absolutely love it. I have new cables and have experienced no problems in shifting. In fact have noticed improved shifting over the 11-36 Shimano XT that I was using on both bikes.
  • 1 0
 I just built my trail bike around a 10 speed setup with this cassette as the key ingredient. Since 11 speed is gaining momentum all the 10 speed stuff can be had for a lot less. My personal reason is this provides all of the effective climbing range I need without having to modify a stock medium cage derailleur or have odd jumps in gearing. I highly recommend this product as finish, durability and everything about it is quality. It shifts really well and I've had better luck with this than the SLX cassette that I used in the past on a similar 10 speed system build. True the Sun Race is cheaper but you are getting what you pay for with that product.
  • 1 0
 bought this and race face 30t for well under 200 bucks. the build quality is top notch. didnt use new cable and shifts great. not 100% but shifts are fast and no delay between 34 and 40. glad i made the switch. im 210pds 5'10, always cary camelbak and not a great climber but 40t is plenty for me paired with 30t. im sure someone lighter or with better legs will have no problem on long climbs using 32t up front.
  • 1 0
 I've ridden both the Praxis and SunRace, and the SR wins hands down. The SR has better shifting throughout, all steel cogs except for the 40T which is aluminum and it retains the 36T which is the deal breaker for me with the Praxis....... Oh, and did I mention the SR is $65??
  • 6 2
 As a lardo, I want to see a review of the e thirteen 44 tooth one.
  • 3 1
 I love my praxis stuff. Praxis PF30 is hands down the best BB I've ever used.. If I was in the market for this i'd probably buy it right away.
  • 2 1
 I've got to say, the main thing I noticed with the cassette was the smaller, more even jumps in the harder gears, it really seems to help my cadence and rhythm with two tooth jumps rather than three.
  • 3 3
 I was seriously thinking about this cassette until I found that I could buy the 11 speed shimano 42t cassette, derailleur , shifter and kmc chain for 242 euros or £170 delivered from Germany. £7 less with an 11-40 cassette or £192 from CRC. The Praxis cassette over here is £89 vs £65 / 57 for the M8000. I can sell my Zee derailleur , shifter , cassette and chain for £50 making an outlay of £120 which is only £31 more than the Praxis and everything is optimised to work perfectly. Factor in a 2 cassette changes at £178 vs £130 / £113 and I'd have paid more for the Praxis.
If you're looking to change from 9 speed to 10spd Zee setup and 3 Praxis cassettes, the Praxis makes even less sense at £344 vs £319 for M8000 with 3 cassettes or £291 if you buy from Bike24.


Praxis go home, You're Drunk !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 6 0
 I agree. Praxis were onto a winner until shimano shafted them with the new range deorext
  • 1 0
 Look better buddy... You can get all the xt stuff you mentiones for $200.
  • 1 0
 @MojoMaujer. The price I paid from Bike24 Germany is as cheap as I could find anywhere at £170 , if you would care to post a link to where I can get all the same kit for less please do. I can always send my stuff back. The higher prices I quoted include 3 cassettes purely to show the cost involved when a cassette has to be replaced. Chains etc are pretty much the same cost in 10 or 11. The main cost of either option is the cassette .
  • 1 0
 That shimano chain is insanely stout. They definitely made them stronger. I would try one instead of the kmc. Even though the kmc x.10sl is my favorite 10s chain and seemed toughest. Shimanos 11s chain has like 30-40% larger interior surface contact on the bushings over their 10s. I was surprised how well 11s 105 shifts...better than 10s duraace. Its impressive, give the shimano a good comparison to the kmc...or pb could be kind enough to do a chain shootout.
  • 1 0
 @mgolder @bulldogdog6485 US the prices are lower compare to Uk. even from CRC bike 24 etc.
all you have to do find a site that price match.
I have seen the cassette for $90, derailer $75 and shifter for $40.
Price match everything on one site. After the match is approved, you have a month to make the purchase. Hold tight and wait for a coupon to come in, 5-10% off and deal done.
  • 1 0
 @takeiteasyridehard how many miles are you getting out of mmc x. 10 speed. I average about 1100-1300 on most shimano 10 sp. Also you saying an 11 sp chain works better on 10 speed drivetrain?

agreed "pb could be kind enough to do a chain shootout."
  • 1 0
 @Shemp, I dunno precisely. I do not use a cycle computer anymore. I am really fond of the ti-nitride gold plating for my particular environmental conditions in Idaho though. On ten speed I noticed KMC and shimano have different design concepts. The kmc can twist and rotate like when other chains are worn out. It allowed me to get a supertight custom chainguide setup and shifted smoother than shimano. Mileage wise, I bent chains less on kmc...usually get about 7-900 on my chains though.
  • 1 0
 @Shemp, just reread what you said. I haven't tried the 11s chain on a 10s, and I doubt that would work. But yeah, pinkbike needs to have a shootout for chains, range adapters, and oval chainrings. And maybe even try some unconventional combos like mixed speed components.
  • 1 0
 @MojoMaujer I doubt you will find any UK retailer willing to price match any American site at all. Then you have to wait for a discount code to possibly arrive . . . And hope you have 30 days to make the purchase as well?! Seems like a lot of if's and maybes. Easier to order form mainland Europe for us instead.
  • 1 0
 What is the difference in tax between Europe and America? 15%?
  • 5 2
 I like. Was expecting a much steeper pricetag.
  • 3 2
 There is no 9 tooth because it fits on a standard free hub not SRAM xd free hub and a standard free hub is not small enough for a 9 tooth
  • 5 1
 I run one, love it.
  • 3 1
 This should have been on the market before the 11sp stuff. The range will be enough for quite a few riders out there.
  • 2 0
 just bought one two weeks ago. love the price and it has been working great!
  • 1 0
 We run them on our Team bikes, very happy with them. www.secretcycles.co.uk
  • 3 2
 That just might be my next cassette. After my 9 speed xt dies.. May need to stop putting new chains on that thing...
  • 5 4
 bollox to 10sp, buy an XT 11sp kit - £165 from germany for cassette, shfter, mech and chain. Its a total no brainer.
  • 3 0
 got a link?
  • 2 0
 Yes, please share your knowledge "poah".
  • 3 1
 Except you know how much the M8000 cassette weighs?
11-40T-410g
11-42T-450g

That's heeavvvy
  • 1 2
 I did think it looked a little agricultural!
  • 1 2
 Right... Why buy cheaply made praxis stuff when you can have xt for less money
  • 2 0
 @hjb1000 I know how much it weights, I just don't care.
  • 2 0
 @dakuan got it from bike24
  • 1 0
 @poah I'm > £200 from there.
  • 1 0
 thats euros not pounds
  • 4 2
 OK Praxis, now make the 10 sp / 11-42 cassette that everybody wants!
  • 2 1
 I don't. This cassette looks great.
  • 2 1
 It's close, but not there...
  • 2 0
 I actually want a 9-40 or 10-38 on an XD driver. I want to be able to run a smaller Chainring to improve ground clearance. That way weight is dropped for the same end goal as well
  • 2 0
 I find my pedals when pedaling produce the worst ground clearance. I run a 33T with a silentguide Smile

To be honest I would have no use for a 9T out back, I don't know of any descents where I would look for a 9T for any length of time with a 33T up front. There are road sections where the gear is not enough, but they are just transit section to get from one trail to another... just chill out on them and get ready for the fun ahead.
When you ride in the UK you do not appreciate what the 40T is for. If you ever get the chance to go to California and ride some of the long and steeper climbs there on a sandy surface then you will understand what the 40T is for. (we don't have climbs like that in the UK!!!!!)
www.mtbproject.com/trail/1004114
www.mtbproject.com/trail/3592216/skyline-wilderness-park
The hard way up Skyline (the way I wish I had not gone) is tight switchbacks into steep rocky starts, the average grade is a 10% for over 0.5 miles and there is no rest, no let up to the gradient. You need a rest in between the corners (the locals I met laughed that I even tried to go up this way as nobody tries who knows... ) I would have loved a smaller gear for the 10% gradients between the really steep bits. It has nearly 2000ft of climbing, Skyline is a more demanding climb as it is pretty relentless for 3 to 4 miles, on a sandy surface. The descent is super fun though, nothing technical, some nice wee jumps and 2 sides to the valley to ride down, the more technical side is old school, tight and loose.
  • 1 0
 where abouts in scotland do you live must be pretty flat there because for quite abit of the climbing around here is pretty difficult with only a 32t x 36t
  • 1 0
 ti6996 - I live not far from you, you know R dawg and Adam Conrad?... ask them how I ride.... Smile
It ain't the same game around here compared to California climbs, we only have small hills compared to other parts of the world.
  • 1 0
 To quote betsie "To be honest I would have no use for a 9T out back, I don't know of any descents where I would look for a 9T for any length of time with a 33T up front. There are road sections where the gear is not enough, but they are just transit section to get from one trail to another... just chill out on them and get ready for the fun ahead.
When you ride in the UK you do not appreciate what the 40T is for. If you ever get the chance to go to California and ride some of the long and steeper climbs there on a sandy surface then you will understand what the 40T is for. (we don't have climbs like that in the UK!!!!!)"

I've had that argument with others...For 1x I'd rather have the low end climbing gear than the high range as I've never felt like I really needed to pedal where its fast, steep and gnarly. For fire roads, who cares, I'm not trying to win a race so I'm not concerned if I wind out. Running a 11 x 40 with a 28 up front. Climbs most any steeps and I let gravity take care of the rest.
  • 4 2
 without 42t option, its just not worth it
  • 2 0
 Or get the Sunrace one which is the same thing for £60 not £90
  • 1 0
 Sorry to reply months later, but do you know if the sunrace is all steel? I found it on ebay, 11-42, and it claims that every cog is steel, and the weight is 448g, which would be worth it to me to get all steel. I bought an aluminum 42t adapter and it lasted only one season.
  • 2 0
 I think there are two sunraces, one alu, one steel. Couldn't tell you for sure whether it's all steel. Would assume so as it's seen as the cheap option but assumption is the mother of all returned CRC orders...
  • 1 0
 Great! Only i already purchased 2 wolftooth cogs. If only this came out sooner. I do like the wider gearing on the Praxis.
  • 1 0
 Man, if praxis had released this a year ago, they would've sold a ton. D'oh!
  • 2 3
 Now someone needs to create a derailleur meant for these. Cranking in the b-tension to get to the top gear means you get sloppy performance, especially in the lower gears.
  • 4 1
 Try a radr cage, it alleviates the issue pretty well.

And there ARE derailleurs meant for wide range cassettes. It's called XX1 and XT M8000 (and XTR). In a few years we'll all be 11 speed on GX or something like that.
  • 3 1
 or just go to the hardware store and a M3(or M4, don't remember off the top of my head) by 25m.
  • 1 1
 if you have 10sp sram shifters you can use a sram force1/cx1 long cage derailleur
  • 1 0
 Sram 10 speed you don't need to replace the b-screw, and works fine usually with the medium cage der, zero problems with the long cage...don't need an after market cage.

Just the shimano stuff requires messing around to get to work right with cogs > 36t
  • 4 4
 Why would anybody buy this for $130?

For $200 you can get:

Xt 11 cassette
Xt 11 rear derailer
Xt 11 front shifter
  • 3 1
 Because 130 200, assuming you have a decent 10sp. derallieur, shifter and chain.
  • 4 7
 One xt cassette will last three of the praxis. 'Nuff said
  • 1 0
 What drivetrain did pinkbike run w/ this? Shifter and derallier?
  • 1 1
 Boehner is resigning and Sram is losing their grip as well. Hail the everyman!
  • 1 1
 im callin it now, 11 speed will be dead in 2 years. wide range 10 speed makes so much more sense.
  • 2 1
 Sun Race also make one.
  • 2 3
 why even bother with the 11 - I would rather just have a 9 cassette
  • 2 4
 No 10 tooth?
  • 3 2
 No, it works on a standard freehub body without any weird lockring shenanigans. In many ways this is NOT revolutionary product at all, it is simply a ten speed XTish level cassette with a slightly wider range. 3 years and all this stuff will be irrelevent.
  • 3 5
 No 9 tooth?
  • 18 2
 neither a 1 tooth... Bit disappointed. When are those companies going to figure out that each tooth lost on the lower end give you so much more range, without ANY compromise. Just imagine a 1-2-3-4-6-8-10-12-14 cassette - that would be four times as much range, without the big jumps in gearing!
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