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Spotted: A New Mixed-Wheel Enduro Bike From Liteville

Apr 25, 2022
by Matt Beer  
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There's no mistaking the prominent lines and linkage on this prototype Liteville bike in the photos that a clever reader sent to us while out riding in Finale Ligure. The polarizing looks from the German brand are something out of an Edward Scissorhands movie, but in all actuality, the suspension design is a simple Horst-Link with a longer rocker arm that compresses the shock from the underside of its rotation. Liteville are also one of the rare brands to adopt the Eightpins integrated dropper seat post that can offer up to 220mm of travel.

Currently, Liteville offers the 601 and 301, which are full 27.5 and 29" wheeled bikes. Richard Cunningham, tested the 301 MK15 Enduro at the end of August, 2020. Not only can the 301 convert to a mixed wheeled setup, but the travel can also be increased from 130mm in the Trail build package to 160 for the Enduro configuration. They've also been early to jump equal front and rear center across their frame sizes.

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This one in particular has a mixed-wheel setup and seems to get the enduro build with a trunnion-mounted coil shock. It's hard to decipher from the photo if there are multiple dropout pivot locations, which would account for the changes in BB height to allow either rear wheel choice. Our best guess is that this is a purpose-built mixed wheel frame, judging by the lower standover height and shock mount getting relocated further down the seat tube. That means that the area inside the front triangle is confined from previous versions and necessitates the use of a stubby water bottle, like the one that the YT Decoy holds.

A few takeaways that lead us to believe it's still a prototype and not yet in production were the numbers "607" and "3200g" written on the bare aluminum tubing with a Sharpie pointing towards a new model and the frame weight. We've reached out to Liteville for any insight they might wish to share with us.

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148 Comments
  • 122 2
 Loving the 200mL or so water bottle
  • 78 2
 I'd say flask at that point.
  • 11 5
 High pivot - check Water bottle mount - check Only positive opinions on pinkbike - check
  • 7 1
 Just enough room for a bottle of chain lube or wd40
  • 7 2
 lol...why even bother adding it
  • 5 1
 they just wanted to say that it fits a bottle. No statement as to what size...
  • 5 1
 It's 475 mL.
  • 9 1
 I think it's kinda cute
  • 5 1
 Reviewers love water bottle mounts... "Hold my flask"
  • 3 0
 Looks like the bottle YT made for the Decoy
  • 3 0
 @AndrewFleming: I want to upvote but I’d be #70
  • 2 0
 @jray152: Don't do it.
  • 3 0
 @jray152: Damn sorry, I'm that guy!! Frown I saw your comment too late. lol
  • 62 0
 I see it has the patented Pant Snagger 9000 suspension.
  • 65 0
 Cock gobbler 9000

Ball buster 9000

…….
  • 5 1
 @WasatchEnduro: lol, that was my first thought....that's a nasty location for a pinch point (though I have to assume people much smarter than me considered that and concluded its a non issue)
  • 11 0
 @SATN-XC: Fortunately I was born with something resembling a bean pie with a bandaid wrapped around it so I don't have to worry about anything lengthy getting pinched.
  • 2 0
 @SATN-XC:

This is actually the best looking iteration (to me) of this layout that I've seen... having kept an eye on Liteville for the last decade.
  • 2 0
 @WasatchEnduro: this is all new to me... I see now its been a thing for a while.
www.liteville.com/en/658/bikes/301-mk153/the-liteville-301-mk153
Like a said, people smarter than me on the matter have already looked into it
  • 5 0
 @WasatchEnduro: Nut Nabber 9000
  • 2 0
 @rocky-x: The older I get the more the 2 veg are in danger, not the meat.
  • 4 0
 @WasatchEnduro: Package Pincher 9000
  • 6 0
 Dick scissor
  • 2 0
 @WasatchEnduro:

Bottom out = Ball spank
  • 57 2
 What is this? A water bottle for ants?
I don't wanna hear your excuses! The bottle has to be at least… three times bigger than this!
  • 7 9
 Zoolander!! Wink
  • 9 1
 You can derelict my balls
  • 6 0
 Listen to your friend Billy Zane, he's a cool dude
  • 23 2
 So like, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you want the trunnion end of the shock to be the one with the most movement, given we went to all the trouble of putting bearings in there and shit, vs. bushings on the lower end?
  • 4 1
 This is an underrated observation
  • 2 1
 The main question is, why would someone use a trunnion mount with that shock location in the first place?
  • 1 0
 @FuzzyL: f*ck only knows. Maybe because it's a prototype? It's still stupid.
  • 3 0
 Knowing liteville it will have needle roller bearings at the linkage end, like all of their other bikes. Also trunion mount shocks have more stroke for their length and retain good bushing overlap, so that's probably the reason for choosing that.
  • 1 0
 @FuzzyL: because all shocks are going towards trunion and the stroke can be longer for the same overall length... or shock can be 20mm shorter for same stroke length...
  • 1 0
 @Santacruz817: I do see the advantage of a longer stroke for the same overall length for some frame designs, i.e. an upright shock position in a small frame size. But that limitation doesn’t apply here, and for everything else it’s just a bad idea to integrate the mount in the shock casing.
  • 1 0
 i think i got this one nailed - the point of the bike was to *look* cool, not actually be cool
  • 28 12
 You got to love Pinkbike. You build a new bike and all you guys complain about is the water bottle size. The bike in the picture has a 485ml bottle and we are in the process of making a bigger, better fitting one. The YT bottle is only there because it was available and did fit the space. Goal is to have something around 600ml mark in there.
  • 14 0
 I don't think it's as much of an issue as the comments make it seem. People just like to complain and be funny and this is their outlet.
  • 10 0
 no details on the bike other than what can be seen in the photos….obviously we’re going to go for the low hanging fruit and poke fun at the water bottle. Wouldn’t call it a complaint
  • 1 2
 No need for a water bottle! My 601 doesn’t have one and even if it did.. wouldn’t use it.
  • 26 0
 @SATN-XC: The linkage takes care of the low-hanging fruit.
  • 7 3
 Don't worry, the new models will be bought by the same special people that bought the old ones, too.
  • 5 0
 It's called a meme. Internet gonna internet.
  • 2 0
 This is definitely the wrong place to expect serious comments on anything.
  • 4 0
 @stupendousman: Alot more entertaining than IBC though. People take it seriously, I even had calls from customers complaining about lack of bottle space on the new model.
  • 3 5
 @Helmchentuned: 200ml of cyanide is enough cyanide after buying a lightville
  • 1 0
 Right, on to more important matters: Is the bike going to be available as a regular 29er too or is it mullet only?
  • 2 0
 @Helmchentuned: 600ml bottle is a must. I do dislike how my 601 has no waterbottle mount and like how my old 301 had one... good to see phtos of this new bike surfacing though!!!
  • 3 0
 @Muscovir: Both. There are, as usual with our bikes, two horst link positions therefore you can run it with either 29 or 650b rear wheels without affecting bb height, steering / seat tube angle. With the smaller wheel you get 4mm more suspension travel and shorter chainstays. Changing the setup on the frame takes about 5 minutes.

It is the same system we run on our current 301 Mk15 frames, well liked by our customers and therefore a carry over feature.
  • 7 0
 This is like looking at one of those upside-down face portraits where they invert the eyes and mouth.
  • 7 1
 I've always wanted to get punched in the nuts by the end of my seat stays when I come across a compression in the middle of a corner...
  • 7 0
 I think you are doing it wrong.
  • 2 0
 I would like to find out how you would do that… I have ridden a Liteville for a while and yours is a non-problem.
Or you have a severely swollen scrotum (no pics, please!)
  • 1 0
 for the linkage or seat stays to hit you while riding you'd literally have to have the seat and post inserted up your ass.... now not judging you here, maybe that is what you are into... not a realistic concern though
  • 3 0
 i like how liteville is everything PB commenters say they want in a bike... mullet or 29 your pick and doesn't affect geo. built in tool in your rear axle, easily serviced, light weight, strong, well laid out internal routing with access hatch, built in derailleur protector, built in chain guide. most reliable and lightweight dropper on the market not to mention it is adjustable and rebuildable, reach adjust and angle adjust headsets, durable anodized finish, or custom colors available, comes with the best dropout/derailleur hanger system on the market with extra derailleur hanger bolts stashed on the frame just in case (hanger is designed with a shear bolt. in case of a crash the bolt shears instead of bending the hanger then you just replace the bolt) and even with all that they complain about a bike they have never even seen let alone rode.
  • 2 0
 Better rawr at the newest pivot and the complain about Canyon rising their prices!
  • 5 0
 So if I am sitting on the top tube will it snip off my dangly bits?
  • 1 0
 @Kiltymac stack 'em and rack 'em!
  • 5 1
 How often do you sit naked on your Toptube? And when you do the tip of the Saddle is right up your Bunghole. Perfect SM Bike. Liteville Owners are a special Breed.
  • 1 0
 yup. prob best not to go enduroing whilst straddling the top tube.
  • 1 0
 I'm guessing no. If it was a serious issue a guard wouldn't be too hard to design.
  • 4 2
 They seem really committed to not.giving the downtube a belly... It's not the best look, it adds cost and weight, but it'd let you run a real water bottle...
  • 2 0
 So how many people are going to have bruises from the rear triangle slap their knees on large compressions. Keep the ball scissors away
  • 1 0
 I'm guessing they ride their bikes before they sell them, so this may not be as serious an issue as you imagine.
  • 4 0
 The ol' ball chopper, back again.
  • 4 1
 Should come equipped with a Specialized Command Post aka the Nutsmasher
  • 1 0
 PB, where people care more about a water bottle than they do about geometry and suspension design.... lol however surely on a big hit that upper arms is deadly for the sack? Or am I wrong?
  • 1 0
 I like it. And there is a lot of place to mount the waterbottle on the top tube. Fidlock. 800ml. Frame under 3kg or maby a carbon trail version with 2kg. That would be nice. 8 pin feature is nice to have. Evo 6 is not.
  • 1 0
 "Currently, Liteville offers the 601 and 301, which are full 27.5 and 29" wheeled bikes" no, the 601 is not being produced anymore, despite being shown on their website... ask me how I know....
  • 1 0
 Anyone interested in this bike hasn't taken an 8 second PBR ride on the top tube begging for mercy down a steep shoot and came out glad they still own a set of balls and didn't have one sliced by that linkage setup.
  • 1 0
 Why not stick the bottle mount on top of the top tube? Is it because of looks? I'm probably being very dense and it's because it gets in the way when you're doing a backflip or something.
  • 1 0
 Water bottles are heavy, they can add 2 pounds (1 Kilo??) when full to your bike, and having that weight that high up will affect how the bike handles quite a bit. Also kills standover height unless you put it way up by the headtube, and that's probably the worst place to add that weight to your frame
  • 1 0
 @olafthemoose: Yes, can understand stand-over would be reduced but seems like it would still be manageable. Weight/height wise, surely on the top-tube would be better than, say, on your back?

Anyway, I'm guessing you're right as otherwise people would be doing it!
  • 5 3
 that rocker just seems so unnecessary. It uses more material and compromises the water bottle space.
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: I’ve talked to a guy that works/worked for liteville. He said that the reason for the linkage is to keep the direction of the forces when the shock compresses, more “spread out” (this May but have been his exact words, it’s been a while). Also, I’ve ridden the MK15 and had zero issues with the rocker getting anywhere near my shorts. But the suspension wasn’t the most smooth one i.e. have a fair amount of feedback. It pedals great tho.
  • 5 3
 @drjohn: Its putting stress in the middle of a tube, at nearly 90 degree angle. Thats a worse-case scenario. Butted tubes are thinnest and weakest in the middle, and the force on them the greatest. If they used a normal rocker link like Privateer or Raaw, then the forces would be directed at the bottom bracket (already the strongest part of any frame) and the upper part of the seat tube, near the top tube junction, and the forces would mostly align with the tube, reducing leverage on it.

The real reason why the linkage is arranged like that is to have the bike look unique, since the tried-and-true, "normal" arrangement is so common (precisely because its tried and true).
  • 8 1
 @hamncheez: The seattubes on our frames are complex forms with multiple wall thicknesses and diameters. Trust me, forces in this place are a non issue since the tube is reinforced for other reasons anyway

Getting the behavor we wanted out of the suspension with a straigt seat tube, straight downtube, no yoke but room for a watter bottle was no easy task. Having the linkage where it is helps a lot. It may have started out as a gimmick to channel forces in the top tube / seat tube junction in 2006 when the first (extremely light) 301 frames came around, it certainly isn´t now. It is basically the only way to fit the features we wanted without bending tubes into a circle and tying a knot on them, therefore keeping the frame rather light.
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: The tubes are up to 4 times butted and have the strength required... these frames are incredibly strong and very light in cmparison to other offerings, so the philosophy of straight tubes but butted where neccesary works...
  • 2 0
 The design also seems to have necessitate very long seat stays. It seems like it would cause more flex (or weight) compared to a rocker on the seat stay and vertical shock
  • 2 1
 @Helmchentuned: I get it, yokes suck, I'd prefer this over a yoke too. But you're telling me theres not room for a vertically oriented shock with a straight downtube and straight seattube? I find that hard to believe.
  • 3 0
 @hamncheez: It would not be lighter and behave different on the brake, which we did not want. Also, we normally do very small and very large frame sizes as well and then it would become quite a hazzle. Standover height would also suffer.
  • 3 0
 Looks like a 301 had sex with a RAAW madonna.
  • 2 3
 That's the first Liteville that doesn't look ugly. Actually looks great. But the tiny water bottle is a joke.
  • 2 1
 Pretty ugly! Seatstays are half a mile long. Massive BB area and room for a "why carry a water bottle at all" water bottle. Lol.
  • 1 0
 Misinformation on pinkbikes part, 601 is currently discontinued! And since there's no word from LV what this even is, it might be the next 601 or 301.
  • 2 0
 Liteville doesn't offer 601 any more, just an e-bikeversion of 301, a gravel, a HT and the 301.
  • 2 0
 Liteville was one of the first with the concept of mixed wheels (scale sizing).
  • 2 0
 And one of the first to do smaller wheels with smaller frames, like XS came with a 24" rear wheel and a 26" front (at least that is how I remember it).
  • 1 0
 If the seatstays weren’t like that, the linkage was more compact, and if everything wasn’t stressing mid-tube, oh and the shock was located much lower..
  • 2 0
 I am not the biggest LV fan but I have to say, I really like the lines of this bike!
  • 1 0
 More incentive to get back behind that seat. I'd hate to get anything caught in that.
  • 1 0
 that bottle lol perfect for a double shot of whiskey to ease your "lack of water carrying capability" pain.
  • 2 0
 kill it before it lays eggs.
  • 2 0
 Super tuck not recommended.
  • 2 0
 Still has the ball slicer link….how many dudes lives have been ruined??
  • 2 0
 The auto-Eunuch, 9000, should be the production name for the bike.
  • 1 0
 Where is he. I know he exist. The dude waking around with no junk because of the "guillotine " link.
  • 1 0
 Disgusting. Reminds me of the old Nicolai Lamda (ball scissor) which was RAD in the 90’s, early 2000’s.
  • 1 0
 The rocker and top tube interface is a nut-muncher. Don't screw up or you're gonna pay!
  • 2 0
 Still getting a Liteville when I win the lotto
  • 1 0
 comes with special pads where the padding is on the inside of your knee.
  • 2 0
 The nutbuster
  • 1 0
 Why does the seatpost have a lock and unlock switch?
  • 1 0
 The seatpost is integrated and a structural part of the frame. This means the colar is in a fixed position. The lock / unlock, allows you to se the max height for your indiviusal needs.
  • 1 0
 See that little bolt head down the bottom of the seat tube? That's the locating/centering bolt that secures the post. They are without doubt the best dropper I've used.
  • 2 0
 Nope
  • 2 0
 Loving the raw AL
  • 1 0
 I'd guess this comes from Anchortown, not Liteville.
  • 1 0
 Can someone please explain these guys how to do hydroforming. Please.
  • 1 0
 All tubes you see on that frame are hydroformed...
  • 1 0
 I feel like the rocker could end up being a nut craker !!!
  • 1 0
 I’ve got bruises on the inside of my knees from looking at it.
  • 1 0
 Honestly didn't even know Liteville was still around.
  • 2 1
 Contender for the most undesirable bike of the year right there
  • 1 0
 New long ZEB fender?
  • 1 0
 Mudhugger
  • 1 0
 @jrcd: that’s what I had originally thought but I wasn’t exactly sure.
  • 1 2
 The biggest question is... who cares about liteville?
  • 2 0
 used offen in europe, a busy sign on alpine sidewalks
  • 2 0
 Bit of a weird question. People who like mountain bikes, maybe?
  • 3 0
 Probably just the people that know how good they are and have done research. Have at look at their website. Their bikes are very well engineered and strong. I have broken, Pivots, Treks, Evils, Mondrakers, Forbiddens, but I ain't never broken a Liteville. Owned two 301s.
  • 1 2
 @danlovesbikes: After looking at the frame, im not surprised ive never heard of them. that rear linkage is cancerous and the geo looks pretty out of date. Dont know where you got "well engineered" from
  • 2 1
 @danlovesbikes: seriously. my 301 MK14 is still going strong and i ride it way above most 140 travel bikes paygrade. outlasted a rip9 a ripmo a 5010
  • 2 1
 @deknarp: out of date? probably a 64* head angle 75* ACTUAL seat angle chainstays that change with bike size. as for well engineered well laid out internal routing with access port. lighter than most carbon bikes in the same class, built in derailleur protector built in chain guide, built to take the lightest weight most reliable dropper post on the market, built in tool for rear axle.all frame hardware uses same size hex that is on the built in tool that can be stored in rear axle. comes with Ti hardware, comes with a clever derailleur hanger that uses a replaceable shear bolt that is designed to shear before the hanger bends. then you just replace the shear bolt(cheaper than a hanger) and the bike comes with extra shear bolts stored on frame, reach and angle adjust headsets... these are very "german" over engineered machines and worth a second look IMHO
  • 1 2
 @JDugan: idk where you got 64 degrees from i found that it had 67 maybe im wrong. Never heard of this 'incredible' dropper your talking about and if its as good as u make it sound I probably would have heard of it. Like I said, the linkage is cancerous and I am yet to hear any positive reviews about how it rides.
  • 1 1
 @deknarp: because this bike is a prototype may be the reason you have not seen any reviews. Just search liteville 301 reviews here on PB for positive reviews of another bike they make. Or search reviews of liteville 601 for a positive review right here on PB. Search eightpins dropper for a positive review of that also by PB staff. The dropper you haven’t heard of is unique in that a bike must be built to accept it, so admittedly it is not a common dropper however I do own one as well as have owned or tried nearly all high end and some low end droppers. Eightpins is by far the best. Never had any issues in over 4 years of use with only an occasional disassembly to clean out some dust and relube. Also only takes a second to take it apart. www.liteville.com/en/436/bikes/601-mk4/601-mk4-geometry My geo estimates were based on previous gen 601
  • 1 1
 @JDugan: I was talking about the 301 when I said ive never heard positive reviews. My droppers have been working flawlessly, un serviced, for multiple years aswell and it fits into every bike. To be fair, theres negative reviews about everything.
  • 1 0
 @deknarp: true. I have a bike yoke dropper also with no issues. The eightpins is half the weight though. Also I own a 301 and couldn’t be happier. It is not a supple bike though. Liteville bikes also accept regular seat posts if you don’t want the eightpins post. It has a very similar feel to a 5010 I lusted over a 5010 for years, Got a 2019 5010 and sold it on within six months as it was too similar but not nearly as cool as my 301. I also prefer my 301 over the ripmo and rip9. Suspension just has the feel I’m after in a short travel play bike. Ripmo af built up in similar kit was over 34 pounds my 301 is under 31
  • 2 0
 @deknarp: I mean it's hard to know where to start with this dick comment. You haven't looked into the brand and the R&D they do/have done so I guess all I can say is you're allowed to have the opinion you have, even though it's based on nothing but your dislike of the aesthetic of a bike. I'm happy for you to not like a brand you know nothing about, and you are not the target market for Liteville anyway. As in they are probably aiming their bikes at people who appreciate engineering, function over fashion and not Luddites and Philistines. Some big words in there bro.
  • 2 0
 @deknarp: so if you haven't heard if it it can't be any good? That's hilarious. You tool.
  • 3 0
 @deknarp: Integrated seatpost: I wish every bike in my stable had one of these. The Eightpins mechanism is ultra reliable, rigid and friction free. If you want the most drop (up to 223mm) for the least hassle, this is the one. It's action is unmatched when it's desirable to drop the saddle part way for pedally descents. From a review on this very site.
  • 2 0
 Amen! @danlovesbikes:
  • 1 1
 @danlovesbikes: damn a triple reply. Stay mad
  • 1 0
 @deknarp: I'm so mad.. it's hard to type through the anger, but I'll give it a go. The only thing you'll ever achieve is fertilising the egg that turned into the massive waste of skin that is you. Stay cool. Dick.
  • 1 1
 @danlovesbikes: you still sound mad that I insulted a bike you may own or one that you like. Its also funny that you were joking about being angry but after reading your message you definitely are angry. Your second sentence also doesnt make sense so nice job there. Maybe if you had a better taste in bikes you would be a happier person... stay mad
  • 2 1
 @deknarp: “im not surprised ive never heard of them”-deknarp
“ I am yet to hear any positive reviews about how it rides.”-deknarp
“ geo looks pretty out of date… i found that it had 67 (head angle)”-deknerp
www.liteville.com/en/436/bikes/601-mk4/601-mk4-geometry
Actual head angle is 64.5*
“ Never heard of this 'incredible' dropper”-deknerp
“ ive never heard positive reviews”-deknerp

www.pinkbike.com/news/review-liteville-301-mk15-enduro.html

www.pinkbike.com/news/eightpins-ngs1-integrated-dropper-post-review.html

Admit you were talking out your arse and actually knew not of which you spoke.
  • 1 1
 @JDugan: damn you really thought you did something. I have in fact never heard of this bike or positive reviews and no im not gonna read it because i dont care. I did find a 67 head angle on the bike that i found dont know which one this is or the one i found cause again... i dont care. Never heard of the dropper or any reviews on it because guess what? I dont care. never gonna even consider buying this shitstain of a bike or the dropper that needs the frame to be built around it. Id also like to point out im on a call with like 10 other people and they all never heard of this bike and laughed when they saw it.

Just admit, this bike is a load of garbage
  • 1 1
 @danlovesbikes: : "As in they are probably aiming their bikes at people who appreciate engineering..." the engineering of chopping your balls off everytime you compress the rear?
  • 3 1
 @JDugan: That hanger sheer bolt thing is so stupid lmao Why would you add another failsafe FOR the failsafe? The whole point of a derailleur hanger is so it gets damaged instead of the derailleur itself, so why the hell would you add another thing to break before the hanger. And what happens when the bolt shears? Visually, it looks like when the bolt sheers the whole damn derailleur will fall off! At least when you bend a hanger you could maybe pedal home in one gear. Seems more like a waste of R&D than any actual innovation to me...
  • 2 0
 @Bobtheguy: because the bolt is cheaper than a hanger. Also there are extras stashed on the frame . So actually ingenious and way smarter than other hangers
  • 1 0
 @deknarp: Don't worry, scrote. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives. My first wife was 'tarded. She's a pilot now.
  • 2 0
 @JDugan: You mean the one that is $8 plus shipping and tax and is not sold anywhere other than syntace's website? Doesn't seem like much of an advantage over a UDH which can be had for a couple bucks more, is just as small, can be stored on the bike just as easily, and can be found literally anywhere in the world without the need to pay for (and wait for) shipping from f*cken Germany.
  • 1 3
 @JDugan: you're 50, trash at riding, shit bike, divorced, and you're on here trying to prove a point to a 17yr old kid that gives 0 f*cks about your liteshit
  • 1 0
 @Bobtheguy: you’re not entirely wrong but I have two extras that came with the bike and haven’t used them yet because liteville has a bad ass derailleur protector built into the frame. Also it isn’t a loose spare you have to find a place to store. There is a threaded hole in the chain stays where the extra bolts are stored. And the udh is a terrible design. It is too rigid and destroys derailleurs and frames. I’ve seen both first hand. I mean it even has a stupid name. Universal derailleur hanger… it isn’t universal the frame needs to be built to accept it. Just pop words. But you are right about the bolt coming from syntace, and it usually takes 3-5 business days for shipping ( my frame took 3 days, bars and other parts took 5) remember the prices you see are with VAT. We don’t pay VAT. But I get your point that if it were more local and more common it would make more sense. And your point that you can carry a spare hanger, liteville gets it too, and thought about a novel way to incorporate that into your frame where you won’t lose it and it is always handy. Also if you were to say break your hanger bolt multiple times well you have multiple spares since you could use the derailleur protector bolt and the chain guide bolt as replacements.
  • 2 0
 @deknarp: big mad? Get smart kid
  • 1 3
 @JDugan: dont ever use the word smart again. You've given up responding to the other guy cause u realize how idiotic all your points are.
  • 1 0
 @deknarp: I've had two Litevilles, I've ridden them thousands of kilometres and I still have my balls. And boy oh boy do I have big balls.
  • 2 4
 A Mullet? Best place for that hideous set up is in the bin!







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