A first look at the new downhill track in Szczyrk, Poland where the second round of the UCI DH World Cup will take place this weekend. It won't be this smooth for long, right?
Haha. Did you all learn nothing from Loudenville last year? As John Hall said on the Vital podcast: this fresh style of track lets the downhill “artists” (pros) create a track in all the fresh sections. They will burn in the lines and ruts and it will be a completely different track by race day.
Definitely looks like there are a quite a few natural sections in the instagram photo reel. Those will get chewed up nicely after a few practice sessions.
Honestly guys, I have seen this track in person and this vid shows nothing. Judging the track based on it is impossible. The wooden features are mostly in wet places, there are little springs here and there and there are places which are wet 365 a year. Especially the finish wood is really a bridge over a swamp, it just had to be there. The jumps and berms are on the flatter sections and all steep sections are natural currently covered in loam since they are 100% fresh just leaves removed from the ground and some stumps trimmed. In my opinion they used close to 100% of the slope's potential. Of course the place is not alpine-steep but is close. It will be good.
A DH race it will be...don't fool yourself. The track will be uncovered by Sunday. Can't wait to see what the rubber traffic unearths. That being said...if you don't have a full quiver of DH skills and can't jump with the best of them, you're out.
And what was this video? I might be spoiled by the content produced here by Pinkbike and by, ahem, past broadcasters, but a First Look with no narration, no commentary, no signs of human life? I know there were trail builders, can't you interview them? Context is obviously lacking when you show a bunch of barely panning images like the welcome video on the television at your ski resort vacation.
Mate is mid-track walk currently and yeah there's park stuff, but there's rocks, loose sections, trees, etc... there's even a tree in the middle of the track where you can land left or right of it...
The idea is that the track is soft and raw, so it gets rutted in and shaped by the rapid onslaught of traffic it's about to get. By Sunday it will be a totally different trail.
@drakefan705: It looked very loose in some shots, like it's ready to get blown apart. We'll probably have a different track half-way through practice. Rain coming too, going to be fun...
@Point1Athletic: apart from about 30 seconds in wood it wasn't good. Even a flat square 90 turn with hard pedal out. Sorry that's what I'd call enduro, it's not steep enough to call it DH.
@bat-fastard: did it not have the same average gradient as Fort William! Steep rewards riders with free speed from mistakes whereas some flatter turns rewards riders who can turn well. 3 to 10 pedal strokes rewards riders who have been on the pedals on the off season. How many crashes did we see from riders trying to find and carry speed on lines, remove the free speed and the timing becomes more interesting. Bruni nearly won because of a mistake into a flatter section which cost Ronan his 1 second advantage (you can see the mistake in his helmet cam run). Personally I like a good mix of steep, rocky, loose, bike park. Leogang next, it's probably the same average gradient and has some very groomed bike park stuff so must not be downhill either.
@betsie: don't really rate fortbill either tbh. Can't wait for Champery to return, hopefully get another day at it in 6 weeks time but there's race in August so hopefully not closed.
@bulletbassman: haha those two tracks are very different. Loudenvielle is great and snowshoe is shit (hated by just about every rider, but oddly loved by biased American fans). if this one lands in the middle it'll still be better than Fort William
@davetrumpore: always made for good racing. Lots of different winners, interesting line choices by top riders, often shook up the standings. Sure I’m a bit biased towards east coast rocks and spectating in person but as far as racing goes it was a good stop that will be missed. Venues like ft bill and snowshoe are sick because they are so different in terrain, culture, atmosphere. Loudenville was just probably the most interesting new track we’ve had since champerry.
I ride this place every summer and it's fricken amazing. Fantastic bike hike and uplift and superior singletrack XC across beskidy and downhill runs from the summit. they will also be holding event across the mountains in Bielsko Biala at the Enduro Trails which is also a superb network of trails. Cant wait for the racing!
It's pretty difficult to know how this track is going to work until people start riding it. Would look better with dirt jumps instead of wood but it's cool that it's a new track
It's not really my cup of tea for a WC, but I guess it gives all the riders a chance to shine on a different course style. Maybe it will pull in a few more punters as jumping is more exciting to watch then rock smashing.
Any tips on how to access the broadcast in ways other than the official overpriced streaming options? Heard a rumour some handy link had been thrown around but can’t find anything.
@gabiusmaximus: the other day i went on a trail that was hardly steep at all and i still made it up to 45mph in no time so these guys being crazy as they are are going allot faster on these huge jumps.
No, I think I saw that he works for Intense now in some expanded role (not simply wrenching for the pros but also doing R&D and product management, or something like that), so he stayed with Intense when Gwin left for Crestline.
@thekaiser: I forget which off-season interview I hear where AG basically said he tried to lure him away from Intense, but couldn’t match what Intense pays him, John has mouths to feed, etc.
People after the race: DH racing is too dangerous, they are not paid enough for a track like that.
Well said..!
Can't wait to see the first guys come down the mountain!
And what was this video? I might be spoiled by the content produced here by Pinkbike and by, ahem, past broadcasters, but a First Look with no narration, no commentary, no signs of human life? I know there were trail builders, can't you interview them? Context is obviously lacking when you show a bunch of barely panning images like the welcome video on the television at your ski resort vacation.
press the speaker button on google translate to hear. Rough approximation: shchirk
In regards to the video, we've been asking the organisers for a proper course preview for the past few weeks on social media, but to no avail
You can find the whole track here
youtu.be/ujPCkt7aHig
www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/poland-world-cup-downhill-bielsko-biala-2024?page=1#comment-463666
One of the boardwalks is like a 3 lane motorway
Steep rewards riders with free speed from mistakes whereas some flatter turns rewards riders who can turn well. 3 to 10 pedal strokes rewards riders who have been on the pedals on the off season.
How many crashes did we see from riders trying to find and carry speed on lines, remove the free speed and the timing becomes more interesting. Bruni nearly won because of a mistake into a flatter section which cost Ronan his 1 second advantage (you can see the mistake in his helmet cam run).
Personally I like a good mix of steep, rocky, loose, bike park. Leogang next, it's probably the same average gradient and has some very groomed bike park stuff so must not be downhill either.
Champery is European champs this year.
Must sort out my passport.
Snowshoe but it will be a good one.
get your tweezers out, gonna be pulling splinters!
sunday - finals