The Cotic Solaris was designed to take the best of our legendary Soul trail hardtail and bring all that to the 29" wheel format.
- Reynolds 853 steel front triangle with signature Ovalform top tube and new gussetless DZB down tube.
- 44mm standard head tube designed with external bottom cup for taper steerer compatiblity and zero stack top cup for minimal stack height.
- 31.6mm seatpost size is dropper seatpost compatible and the frame has hose clips for the remote under the top tube.
- Clearance for big tyres - 2.4" Maxxis Ardents fit fine.
- Geometry with commitment! Minimum 80mm travel forks or 470mm rigids. Handles great with 100mm sus forks, strong enough for up to 120mm travel.
- Sizes - 16" (new for 2013), 17.5", 19" and 20.5".
- The frames are designed to be compact and chuckable.
- Weight - 4.9lbs for the 19"
For info on the Cotic Solaris and more, head over to:
Cotic BikesHuge thank you to:
- James Swinden (Rider)
- Hamsterley locals
- Alex Kohnert (actor)
But why get angry? I think it's great to have choice.
Old days when you were thinking MTB, there was pretty much one wheel size to match all the off-road biking, now we can pick up whatever suits us better cos every wheel size has it's benefits. I personally ride 29" for XC racing, 26" for trail/AM/FR - loving both.
By the way, despite the unnecessary 'braking news' style speech, this video was really fun to watch.
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What you all seem to miss is that bikes like these aren't meant to replace (or even are in the same market segment as) DH or FR bikes. The UK has a tradition of long travel hardtails: mostly steel framed HT's with long-ish forks designed for having a blast in the woods, both up and downhill which is exactly what this bike is - only with 29"wheels.
Fact is quite some people dig this kind of bike (Trek bringing out the Stache says a lot) and for this kind of riding on a HT 29" can be beneficial for obvious reasons (more control, grip and so on) which can only be a good thing.
Pretty much all negative comments are either based on a misunderstanding of what this bike is about or just general uninformed 29er hating.
a/ he crashed in it.
b/ the big floppy wheels collapsed
or
c/ both of the above.
Also, I have met so many people who rode a 29er for the first time and were amazed by how it didnt handle like a school chair stuck on top of two ferris wheels. A lot of the haters here are under the impression that they handle completely differently to 26 inch bikes. They dont! In an awful lot of settings they feel every bit as good as a 26er. A hell of a lot of people who have ridden a 29er are immediate converts in spite of them hating beforehand. Most of the people talking crap here have never ridden one at all so have no basis to form an opinion.
This is coming from the owner of a 26 inch steel hardtail and a brand new 26 inch enduro bike. Horses for courses lads.
why re invent the wheel
And the whole idea behind the "This rock garden slows me down so much, I need some bigger wheels (not better skills)!" is just lame. Learn how to ride. Or just ride on fire roads, those are not bumpy.
Your words do not take early and has nothing to do with disc brakes and suspensions.
29" + Rock gardens = Happy wheel builders!.
a good rider will ride a pogo stick faster down a mountain than a covert roadie on a 29".
This guy rips on a 29" better than most on 26" that i see.
That being said.. I'm probably never going to buy one.. but variety is the spice of life
1) The UK riding scene is different to where you live.
2) Other people ride differently to you.
3) Moreover they prefer it to how you choose to ride.
4) Cy at Cotic, who designs the frames, may know a bit more about what UK riders want and need than you do, he has after all built a successful company from such knowledge.
My BFe is a 26 inch and I love it riding what I ride here in Japan, however I have no doubt that the Solaris will light up in some people's hands over mine, so props to them, let them enjoy it and in the mean time, stop whining. You only sound ridiculous to everyone except other whiners.
Nice to see my 18bikes (my LBS) in a video too
Companies realized that 29ers propaganda is not having the desired effect and now we got also 27,5" that is claimed to be "best of both worlds". Best of what? 26" is a perfect wheel size. It has been perfect for so many years and I see no reason not to be perfect for much more years to come. Riding 26" bike is super easy and super fun!
I don't mind having 29ers and 27,5" as an options, but let bike companies stops telling us that 26ers are not good enough, because this is just no true.
Can't wait to get my Soul out for a ride!
Enjoyed the vid! Cotic makes some sweet bikes!
Uh Oh, 650b trailbikes keep winning the Fontana Winter Series DHs. Now what? Kevin Aiello and Logan Binggeli are besting the field on the "tweener" wheels. Oh Nooooooooo.....
"Sounds like people who ride big suspension are compensating for something.."
I don't like to dumb down the trails often, but when I do, I ride a bike w/150mm+ of trail-numbing suspension.
As fun as it is ripping around on a 1994 Barracuda frame (yes I have one don't be jealous) I don't want my bike to be my limitation. Big travel and light weight equal no excuses. So when I puss out on a 30-foot gap its because my nuts just crawled up into my gut. Not because I was concerned that I may burp a little Stans out of my wagon-wheel.
My beef with 29": flexy/whippy wheels(have you railed a berm on a 29" wheel?) + heavier + less playful + fugly + not at all compatible with the piles of 26" tires, forks, wheels, etc. that I already have + pisses off my bike rack = less fun.
I still ride my 26 and i wouldnt change it as i ride much more technical stuff and i like throwing my bike around but for the average trail centre/casual rider 29ers make way more sense.
theyre being pushed as being as chuckable as a 26 but faster, although Ive yet to see proof of this beyond a couple of industry led videos and atricles. even the mags are having a difficulty telling us a convincing story about why we should buy 29 or even 650b. its always 'its just like a 26, only with a few drawbacks and you wont notice the difference anyway'. then why would I buy one? its bullshit.
if youre 6'6 and need a taller bike then it makes sense, but the 29'r is being pushed as a replacement for the 26 and thats just not going to happen.
I wouldnt buy a 29er as i DO really like a very agile bike. The vast vast majority of riders dont notice the slight drop in agility and that does not necessarily mean beginners. A 29er IS considerably faster on the longest 65km loop near where i live than a 26 inch bike. They do roll over stuff slightly better, its just a fact which some people here cant accept. Just like its a fact that 26 inch wheels are slightly more agile. What 29er have you ridden and what made you think it offers zero advantages to certain types of riders?
If the marketing was aimed at pro-team riders or the 1000 miles a month crowd as an alternative with benefits that outweighed the drawbacks, thent that wouldnt be a problem, but theyre being touted as a direct replacement for 26, with some companies dropping thier 26 model in favour of a 29 for this year. it appears that the manufacturers have got together and agreed to force this on the market whether we want it or not.
the message is clear too: if youre still riding 26 then youre getting left behind and arent a 'real' mtb'r because you havent kept up with the latest technology. Ive ridden a few 29rs and I dont see what they have to offer thats so much better. they felt twitchy on anything other than mildly rough stuff and I felt like I was about to be pitched over the bars on anything like a decent trail. videos like the one above give the impression that you can just get on one and start ripping like a pro, but that film was edited and the lines redone over and over again, and the bike was in the hands of a pro rider who has been practicing those lines, probably for days.
29 has its place, but its NOT a replacement.
Pretty pointless video really, you don't see a video of say a demo 8 stating it can help you with downhill and only show someone riding it on a road.
Otherwise, I'll stick to my 26's for all of the other benefits that 29ers cancel out. Still haven't tried 650b though. I'm open to it.
But nothing happens dudes, don't panic, there're still enough wheels for everyone........ and if you don't like it, don't buy it. that easy.
I tested one of those huge wheels bikes a few days ago n i'm not interested in them at present. too unwieldy for my liking. but who knows, maybe with years, when the small ones no longer exist, we have to pull our pants down. hope not.
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The only thing I miss in a 502923rd discussion on wheel sizes is that second prick waki, where is he BTW?
they are not a shop you cant just pop in for a look around its a massive warehouse full of boxes. i.e. if you want some bits you have to ORDER them.
in fact quite a few items that my local bke shop order from their distributors arrive with CRC's warehouse as the return address.
This took six seconds... "650b uk"
www.pedalandspoke.co.uk
There ya go, an independant shop with bikes in stock. Seriously? You're a child aren't you? Need to get mum and dad to drive you around and pay for your bikes ? Too lazy to actually pick up a phone and call shops to see who has what ?
If I may be so bold as to suggest that your choice of words and general demeanour really are not helping you to win any friends, or make your point. I live in Japan and here I have yet to see a single 650B product in the flesh, in any of my LBS. And that is a crucial point dee that you, I am afraid, have completely missed it appears.
The word LOCAL. In the never ending pool of vitriol regarding the online / LBS debate, one should be very careful to avoid forgetting that the point of an LBS is that it should be just that, an Lbs, with a capital L.
If I travel to Tokyo (a good 8 hour drive in horrendous traffic I can assure you), to Guava Jelly or Grove, two of the biggest off road shops here, I might get to find something of the 650b ilk, yet at the local bike shops within an hour of here (Yokkaichi, Mie) I have yet to see a single item.
If I may be as presumptuous as to talk on behalf of b45her and mozz, as a Brit who is always in bike shops when I go back home, I too have yet to see a single 650b item in any shop.
Your point that it is possible to find 650b stuff in A shop (capital A!) is not a refutation of their point. By your logic, the fact I saw (and bought) some scones online in Japan last week does not mean that scones are either a) popular or b) readily available.
Given the above, and your apparent lack of ability to see such a point, I am tempted to suggest that it be you who should open your eyes a little more in this world.
Have a good day and enjoy Canada, you are a lucky human being my friend to have such a great MTB playground.
a local specialized dealer has told me that he is selling 26" stumpjumpers at a ratio of 15-1 compared to the 29" model and that even as hardtails 26" wheeled bikes are still out selling 29ers by a considerable margin, hardly sounds like a dead standard to me.
26" for life!
in europe and the east companies are going to try to push 650b instead, but in america they can't because they put so much into telling everyone 29 was the future.
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Stonger, look better, more versatile. Sure it would be heavier, but everybody hates weight weenies right?
1.go to a doctor
2.he looks at your balls
3.doctor:"oohh...you need 200 HP at least!!"
4.you: "niiiiiccceeee"
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