Orange Bikes started producing frames way back in 1988, and have been doing things differently ever since. Eight years later, when bicycle production was heading East, Orange decided to bring it back to home shores and produce frames in the UK. The X628 frame in 1996 paved the way for what would come later and was thrust into the limelight by a young American named Missy Giove. Since then, subtle refinement and gradual evolution of a proven design have been Orange's hallmarks with that thinking producing multiple World Championship, World Cup and National titles across the world.
Welding the headtube onto an Orange frame
What is aluminum monocoque?Aluminum monocoque is a structural approach by which a frame is produced from aluminum alloy sheet. A single, external, aluminum shell forms the main structure and provides the structural support any load placed on the frame. It’s worth pointing out that aluminum monocoque encompasses a wide variety of different techniques that can produce a similar result. True aluminum monocoque arguably only exists in rocket construction and most bicycle, automotive, marine and aeronautical applications are closer to semi-monocoque as they use multiple monocoque structures to create the end product or internal structures within the outer shell/skin.
Do you use a specific monocoque technique? All our monocoque frame parts are produced by folding aluminum sheet using a shaped vertical press. The press-heads determine the angle the metal is folded at and dictates the shape of the tube created. It is possible to hydroform aluminum monocoque parts to produce a bicycle frame. We use our current method of monocoque construction owing to our expertise and background in producing frames the way we have done since 1996. We produce the vast majority of the frame’s component parts via a single process rather than a mixture of different techniques.
Why have Orange decided to use this process? Use of monocoque allows the creation of a bike frame with a reduced number of stress points and allows stresses to be dissipated more evenly throughout the frame.
A selection of parts ready for assembly
What materials do you use? 6061-T6 aluminum makes up the vast majority of our monocoque construction. Compared to other tempers of the same grade and other grades of aluminum alloy, 6061-T6 exhibits a better combination of higher strength, better workability, higher corrosion resistance and is more easily welded. 6061-T6 is also one of the most common and widely available grades of aluminum alloy which helps keep supply consistent and costs down. 7000 series aluminum is generally cheaper and is more easily welded, but is heavier and isn’t de-stressed by a post-weld heat treatment which is an important factor for us. 6061-T6 produces the lightest, strongest frame compared to any other grade of aluminum for our given construction technique.
How does the process work?A single sheet of 6061-T6 aluminum alloy is loaded into a turret punch to cut out the required pieces. We produce as many of a single piece per sheet and the programmes reduce wastage where possible. The flat pieces are not inherently stiff but are easily folded. Minor folds increase the stiffness of the cut pieces exponentially. A downtube, for example, is folded several times from the horizontal until its sides almost touch and the increase in stiffness is dramatic. Aluminum hardens more when worked than other materials such as steel, and this part of the process sees it worked several times. Once the individual pieces are cut out, they make their way to the welding floor where the individual components are TIG welded together to create the outer shell. Almost all the parts for producing a front or rear are produced in this way. Anything that requires a finished edge (dropouts, shock mounts, bearing housings, etc...) are produced by a laser cutter or CNC machine off-site. Like in aerospace and automotive monocoque designs, we use structures within the outer shell to add strength to the outer shell and to better resist torsion. This internal structure is best exhibited in the rear swingarm where parts cut from different thicknesses of aluminum sheet are welded in to provide support in crucial areas. After welding, the front and rear triangles make their way to an alignment table before heading off for heat treatment that restores the material’s temper (T6) lost during welding. This process removes the stress from the frame and ensures consistency of the material properties throughout. The frames are aligned once more after returning from heat treatment.
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If you're going to write a technical article on construction techniques, we need a bit more than 'It's aluminium: we bend it, then weld it'.
also if we would have a picture of their bending press (dont know how to say it in english) we would probably see that there is nothing special going on in their factory....
next article needs more pictures
With an easy visual cad package, workshop with press - dies can be produced locally and modified to stay ahead of the taiwanese tube and carbon giants with their time to market of generic frames of 2 years, or more.
Paired with direct sales - looks like a very viable and meaningful way to make a living and building a community that appreciates local trade, manufacturing, good vibes and jobs.
Orange, Foes, Intense have it down to an art. Fresh bread always tastes better. While not exactly magazine-mainstream - are ahead in the looks, rideability and experimenting/engineering game. Kudos.
Monocoque is bent sheets welded along its centerline. Not the best way to form a bike tube.
First the weld is at the major axis of the tube where you will find the highest bending stresses and will significantly affect its fatigue strenght due to stress risers in the weld. Even after full t6 treaments, the heat affected zone from welding will be weaker then the rest of the tubing. The less welding the better...opposite of monocoque
Second, the sheets are usually of uniform thickness. This means the tubing will be heavier as it is not butted. Weaker and heavier.
Hydroforming on the other hand starts with a butted tube (double or tripple) and deforms it with the used of an internal pressurized fluid and a mold. This will achieve tubing with the highest strenght to weight possible. Thick and oversized at the joints, thin an narrow where there is less stress. It is also possible to have many different cross sections shapes in the same tube and nice smooth joint transitions.
basically monoque is the least high tech and belongs in the 90s....this article is an advert that is technically incorect. Most companies like Specialized, Trek,Giant, SC use aluminium alloys that have mechanical properties way better then 6061-t6......again biaised article
Semi-monocoque structures can be plenty strong and very stiff if designed well. Hydroformed tubes are the method of choice for Al frames because it is the cheapest way to make a frame that is strong and stiff enough.
I agree that semi monocoque can be strong and stiff enough, but it will come with a weight penalty for the reasons i mentioned above.
Hydroformed is used because it is a superior tubing if designed accordingly. For example you can integrate gussets or suspension pivots supports right in the tubes. Again less welding which is better for the reasons i mentioned earlier. Look at the seatube on the treks....that is one well engineered tube.
And strong? Well. Mine doesn't have any cracks or repair welds, which makes it a bit of a freak as 22s go
It's the same concept as aeroplane wings... Without flex they just snap off and neeeeeoooooooowwww DEATH.
In terms of strength, and actual numbers... 6061T6 has an ultimate tensile strength (the point it breaks) of about 45,000 psi (or 45 KSI for short), 6013-T6 (Giant used to use this extensively, also known as Alcoa CU-92) is 55KSI, 6066-T6 (Santa Cruz Bullit's from about 2002 onwards were made from this) is 57KSI and 6069T6 (which Santa Cruz made the Superlights from as an example) is 65KSI. 7005T6 is 51KSI.
To add to those numbers, alu frames are using 7050 at 80Ksi, 7075 at 83Ksi. Nearly double the strength of the 6061 most companies use (45Ksi).
These articles are starting to need peer reviews to correct misinformation.
7005 is what you will most likely see in the 7000 series.
High end frames will use 6066, 6069 or proprietary alloys.
7 series is usually stronger, but does not lend itself to tube manipulation in the way 6 series does, which is why you never see 7 series in most modern frame designs. Many frames where tubesets are straight (ala nicolai) are using 7005 and 7020 series, and have been since their inception.
If you use let's say 7075 T6 instead of 6065 T6 in let's say a drop out - how do you calculate how much of it do you need? Barely on CAD/CAM model? I just designed a frame for myself that will have D-outs made of 7075 T6, but apart form the fact that I use the material I have done only comparative studies for thicknesses and sections from other frames made of "weaker" material. I silently sense that many manufacturers take looks over figures and form stuff according to tastes (no problem about that) so the argument about use of "stronger" material seems a bit BS-ish, if you use more of it than necessary... unless let's say 7075 is noticeably lighter by volume than 6065?
Any input on that?
@WAKIdesigns, 7075 would give you more strenght, but has the same stifness as 6061. For a dropout your consideration should probably be stifness over strenght. By designing with enough stifness....i am sure it will be plenty strong. At that point one would probably consider the cheaper material of the two. Basically 7075 has better strenght to weight ratio but same stifness to weight.
Whilst they have refined their bending & welding hydroforming is surely a more accurate and less weighty way of providing strength/lightness where needed.
How much, you ask? I'm pretty sure you could get several carbon frame sizes for the price of one hydroformed top tube tool. It can be in the hundreds of thousands for multiple parts, and the majority of the formers are overseas. Next Interbike go find the one or two Taiwanese booths with their hydroformed steel and aluminum tubes they want to sell you. Most of the capacity in NA is taken by automotive manufacturing.
dude an hydroforming machine would be in millions of dollars not thousands...... we have a huge hydraulic brake-press at work and they bought it for more than a million.... maybe dies that are machined parts sell for thousand but not the big machine.. do you even know how much a CNC machine costs?
The design you got quoted would really solve many issues at the headtube junction. It would def be in the hundred ofthousand dollars due to the complexity. I would be the first one to buy that frame too. Problem is trying to strecth alu more then 25-30% will drive the cost throught the roof. Deform......anneal.....deform.....anneal......repeat. I would love to see it accomplished though.
From the pictures it looks like Lapierre managed that on the zesty and spicy. Either full hydro or double pass welding followed by grinding to super smooth finish.....looks amazing and his puzzeling me.
Cheers
Orange: puts on Lyle Langley voice> " monocoque..... Monocoque.... MONOCOQUE!"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlIYEdRFQu4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlIYEdRFQu4
Taiwan is not cheap, welders make real good money in China and Taiwan. recently a new bridge in the UK suffered cracks in the welding. They had to fly a team of welders from China to the UK because there was no one with enough skill to do the work from the UK workforce
they would have called us or people from France
agreed, its really sad when you consider the loss in skilled workforce in the UK
I was watching one of the freeview channels last night and they have their "Mega Ships" programme and it was all Scots, Irish and English guys working for off-shore companies doing skilled oil rig work and container shipping jobs along with global crews from Europe, States, Asia
there simply aren't the UK companies doing that anymore
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remember littleJ from Cycle Surgery with his Orange full-suspension frame?
he found a crack in the top tube / head tube junction, sent it back under warranty (10 months old) it came back a different colour?? (he thought a new frame!)
he then found out they had removed the head tube, cut the top and down tube about 1" shorter with mitre tool before welding it, re heat treating, and fresh paint, so it was his original frame but 1" shorter?
he was kinda shocked if I remember, and had "strong words" with Orange, who fobbed him off, he sold that frame off cheap and bought a Santa Cruz
that's about it, you know who krazyjey and hampstead bandit are, for sure
Andy is still on the scene, he showed me a "scenic" route through Hampstead village last year, one of the most amazing urban street descents I have ever done, wish I could remember all the twists and turns we took...
I'm still riding the 'Heath, strictly XC trails on my Stumpjumper 29er and lots of road riding on my Tarmac Comp, all the jumps and stunts have gone on the Heath but replaced by sweet singletracks with miles of distance to be explore
happy trails rustybones!
The only companies left doing monocoque are the ones who can't do anything else...like single pivot suspension!