Evil Undead - Pinkbike's Exclusive First Look

Apr 7, 2011
by Julian Coffey
 
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Evil launched its Revolt DH bike with huge fanfare in 2009 and while it was a promising performer, the aluminum framed racer had reliability issues from the outset. Kevin Walsh and the Evil crew faced a two-sided battle as they fought with the factory to address faulty construction, and tried in vain to fulfill customer warranty issues with replacement parts that simply didn't exist. That which doesn't kill you, certainly makes you stronger and to their credit, Evil rebounded with a new factory and a ground-up redesign - a mind-blowing carbon fiber frame aptly named: "the Undead." We caught up with Kevin and got the exclusive story on Evil's carbon reincarnation.

Nigel Quarless and Kevin Walsh collab for the MS/Evil 2011 World Cup graphics
  Nigel Quarless and Kevin Walsh collab for the MS/Evil 2011 World Cup graphics

 Kevin, it's been 2 years since the Revolt. Tell us about Evil's turnaround and the development of this new rig?

Well it's been 18 long shitty months, battling a factory, misalignments, crap welding, delivery problems, warranties, personnel changes, insomnia, ulcers, rumours and a few catastrophes. We thought this day would never come, it almost didn't, but we wrestled Fedex into submission and Luke Strobel and I picked it up at the airport and ripped it out of the box like kids on Christmas morning. It may not have been the Millenium Falcon, but it was certainly a space ship of sorts. The Fedex staff was laughing at us, we must have looked crazy shredding this box to pieces, but they could tell by the look on all of our faces that it was something special, even though they had no idea what this carbon fiber space ship looking thing was. We packed up into Luke's truck and headed back to the office to measure things up and assemble it with the help of our good friend Zeb from Big Tree Bikes so we could inaugurate it at the TMC trails over the next few days. It was hard to believe it was here and we would be riding it in just a few hours. Excitement got the best of us. The inauguration began prematurely on the staircase at the office and was followed with some late-night cutty's on the streets of downtown Seattle.


 It must have felt like some sort of baptism by fire - to be riding an all-new carbon design after suffering in aluminum factory hell?

All of us were freaking out, as it had been a long time since we had seen an Evil frame, not to mention a carbon one that was straight and actually assembled with little to no effort. This really marked the start of Evil 2.0 and We are proud to finally show you a small glimpse of the future with our full-carbon Undead DH frame. This will be the first of many full suspension carbon offerings over the coming months, it replaces the recent Revolt and has been renamed the Undead for obvious reasons...

Moulded under intense pressure, raw unidirectional composite fibers can look a bit weird when not covered. A thick clear coat ensures you see a ton of lay-up detail.
  Moulded under intense pressure, raw unidirectional composite fibers can look a bit weird when not covered. A thick clear coat ensures you see a ton of lay-up detail.

 Did you take the opportunity to make any significant changes in the suspension or geometry?

We decided to go back to our original non-floating shock design and lower the center of mass by flipping the shock orientation. We also upgraded the Delta System linkage to a double-shear arrangement with a high-load spherical bearing developed by Enduro, which replaces the composite bushing system found on the Revolt. We spent the last year working closely with Hodaka's engineering team to develop this frame. This is the first of many prototypes that we will be testing in preparation for the 2011 Worldcup season.


 Why carbon vs aluminum, especially in light of past aluminum build history? How long has this been in development?

In 2008 we had originally planned to start with a carbon Revolt, but it seemed too far out of reach and we didn't have a relationship with a reputable carbon vendor at the time. When we began working with Hodaka last summer, it made perfect sense - and the timing was right, as we had been working on the design since early 2010.

For us carbon makes a lot of sense, the nature of of the Delta System puts the shock with an offset to the non drive side presenting some interesting clearance challenges, as the linkage is quite compact and in close proximity to the down tube and shock. We really liked the control and consistency that you can achieve with carbon, and it allows us to fine tune flex and stiffness in specific areas of our frames to get the perfect ride. The other reasons are obvious, weight, strength, and you can make really cool shapes.


 What is the expected production?

Hodaka mfg will be handling our production and we couldn't be in better hands. During our first visit to the factory I was reassured that we could truly continue the Evil business. After touring several of their facilities I was amazed at their attention to detail and the quality they consistantly produce. I knew we had aligned ourselves with the best possible partner to produce these frames.

 Pricing and frame weight?

Pricing will be similar to what the Revolt was. With regard to weight, the first test bikes have been almost too light, we will release formal weights in the next installment when we have done further testing and have a clear picture of what the production weight will be. You will just have to speculate until then...


 Can we get some details about the warranty that comes with the Undead?

It comes with our standard 2-year warranty, unlike the past this will include actually being able to get a warranty frame in the event you might need one. Current Evil customers with pending Revolt warranty cases will be issued Undead frames as warranties for their Revolts when production is ready.


 Aluminum for Carbon? Very big move. When should customers expect to be able to take advantage?

We're hoping to start with replacements come summer 2011. And all warranty issues can go through the LBS or Evil directly.


 Who can we expect to see on the Undead this year?

Cam Zink and the MS/Evil Worldcup team Brook Macdonald, Luke Strobel, Filip Polc, Wyn Masters and Markus Pekol, in addition Markus Stockl will be attempting to break his speed record again.


 Info about geometry adjustments?

Geometry adjustments are made simple via our Flipchip and adjustable head tube systems. A redesigned Delta linkage makes for quick and easy geometry adjustments as well as simple maintenance. Additional linkage kits will be available changing the travel from 205mm to 216mm with an extra progressive suspension curve.

Steep F/Steep R - HA-64.5 BB- 14.1/358.5mm WB -45.71/1161.2 mm CS - 438mm/17.2" 440mm/17.3" SA 63.5/62.9 HT height - 125mm
Steep F/Slack R - HA-64.0 BB-13.83/351.5mm WB- 45.81/1163.7mm CS - 438mm/17.2" 440mm/17.3" SA 63.5/62.9 HT height - 125mm
Slack F/Steep R - HA-63.5 BB- 13.9/ 355.2mm WB- 46.31/1176.3mm CS - 438mm/17.2" 440mm/17.3" SA 63.5/62.9 HT height - 125mm
Slack F/Slack R - HA-62.9 BB- 13.7/348.2mm WB- 46.40/1178.7mm CS - 438mm/17.2" 440mm/17.3" SA 63.5/62.9 HT height - 125mm

SM: Reach: 363mm Stack: 600mm TT 22.63"/22.75"/575/578mm FC 27.70"/703.73mm
MD: Reach: 383mm Stack: 600mm TT 23.42"/23.54"/595/598mm FC 28.49"/723.72mm
LG: Reach: 403mm Stack: 600mm TT 24.01"/24.13"/610/613mm FC 29.08"/738.72mm
XL: Reach: 418mm Stack: 600mm TT 24.80"/24.92"/630/633mm FC 29.87"/758.71mm


 Feature breakdown?

• Full carbon front/rear triangle
• Redesigned 7075 double shear Delta linkage with Enduro Spherical bearings
• Integrated fork bumper and cable guide
• IS brake standard
• Removable ISCG05 tab
• Integrated headset ( no headset tools here, just drop the bearings in and go! )
• Internal headset adjustment via eccentric cups
• Integrated removable carbon fender
• Integrated removable Downtube protector
• Integrated removable Downtube shuttle guard
• Rubber chainstay protector not shown


Luke Strobel taking the Undead's virginity
  Luke Strobel taking the Undead's virginity









Look for the full exclusive Pinkbike story on Evil's return from hell.

All photos by Colin Meagher - check him out here.

NOTE: Pinkbike will be getting their hands on the first Evil Undead, and rest assured that we will put it through our hellish testing. Stay Tuned. What are your thoughts on this beast?

330 Comments

  • + 151
flag evil-bikes (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:21)
 Thanks for the props, we had our hands tied for a long time with our last factory waiting on production and warranty frames that never showed up. So we had to keep quiet, but here is the beginning of the new line and a new Evil. We spent a lot of time on this frame and she's testing really well so far. Too bad 300+ crooked Revolts are sitting in Taiwan that will never get ridden. Cheers and lot's more info coming soon
  • + 59
flag tom-cuthbert (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:23)
 Hey, i'll have one of the crooked alu ones, you know, if they're non-sellable and all...

:P
  • + 5
flag goonrider (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:25)
 same here!
  • + 20
flag evil-bikes (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:26)
 Lol, they are over 25mm out at the rear axle.. Beautiful bookend though
  • + 5
flag tom-cuthbert (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:27)
 What are you guys actually going to do with them? That's a lot of metal.
  • + 2
flag FASTFOKUS Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:28)
 Very Very nice ! Hope it'll be strong !
  • + 47
flag evil-bikes (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:32)
 No idea... the factory doesn't answer the phone... Maybe we can do a rescue mission...haha
  • - 105
flag pperini (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:35) (Below Threshold) show comment
 am i the only one seeing carbon geting life on dh rigs and thinking "oh good please stop them before its too late!"...??
  • + 86
flag Eyon (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:44)
 why pperini? Carbon, if made right is as strong as any other material? Why are the best super cars made from CF? Formula one cars are all CF near enough, and modern fighter jets and passenger airlines are CF? Its a strong, versatile, light weight and tunable material. Its disastrous if used wrong but if used right, there is zero wrong with it.

And more importantly, it makes sexy looking bikes.
  • + 5
flag mty10 (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:13)
 I'll have one for my wall.
  • + 6
flag Rob-Chapman (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:36)
 Give ya 50 quid for a crooked Revolt? lol
  • + 17
flag irideinplymotuh (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:56)
 that is a stunning bike and you say the old ones that are in the factory are only good for use as bookends? hmm i have some books that need propping up Smile
  • + 6
flag redline-45 (Apr 7, 2011 at 5:00)
 one of those crooked frames would make a good mantle piece display Razz
  • + 1
flag bikin4life (Apr 7, 2011 at 5:07)
 Yeah, i WANT an EVIL REVOLT the smaller size please....if u guys want my adress to send send a msg to my pinkbike profile....
  • + 8
flag CougarBait (Apr 7, 2011 at 5:30)
 Sick! Can't wait to see something more trail/AM oriented roll out.
  • + 12
flag hoolydooly (Apr 7, 2011 at 5:44)
 im currently designing a coffee table in metal work. i think a revolt frame would make a great base.
  • + 65
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 7, 2011 at 5:45)
 I really hope when this carbon thing is over and companies run out of ideas for the quest for ultimate rider perfomance enhancement by technological solutions (which is retarded at the core) they will discover the bamboo as the material of the future... or cow poo as alternative to epoxy, dunno. Whatever that is not a catastrophicaly expensive making a simple sport even more exclusive sport... A ton of rice costs 700$ - am I the only one seeing this sport going to total geeky madness?!

We laugh at golfers or sailors "you have to be dressed in a special way to be a member of the club you know, v-neck pullovers, hehe" - MTB gets even worse! race pyjamas, huge sunglasses, bikes for prices you can buy a house in Costa Rica, from materials you can either kill half of Great Reef or build a rocket to the moon... 3d GoPRo - make an even bigger facebook pimp prick out of yourself... this gets out of control.
  • + 17
flag hoolydooly (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:31)
 no i definatly think mountain biking is turning into a style contest. what ever happen to just riding in shorts and a tee? carbon is currently at $300 a kilo. in the next 7 years or so it is estimated to come down to $12 a kilo. so you better get used to carbon bikes.
  • - 19
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:42) (Below Threshold) show comment
 I believe stockmarket guys as much as atheists that we go nowhere after we die. Especially when they talk about prices going down buehehe. I mean if some investment bank is about to open huge manufacturing in Kongo, Nigeria or any other place where slaves can be shot as soon as they slow down a bit with work then I believe them. Chinese are getting richer so they want higher and higher life and working place standards, so the costs will go up. Then people in India have much more freedom and they are getting really pixxed off and protest. Just as South America. Then we in better world don't want to pollute our own living and working places so this prediction is highly questionable to me. We have so high (humanitary?) working standards at least in Europe that it's gonna be double so expensive to produce them (or that will be the fair priceWink. Ahhh maybe robots on the moon?

I would say: you like exclusive luxury toys - buy them ASAP... they will get even more expensive especially as we burn bridges behind us...
  • + 9
flag trekriderOWS16 (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:50)
 I like how companies are making their frames more sleek and compact every year. beautiful bike great work evil.
  • + 2
flag bikounet (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:07)
 HAHAHAAAAA I was waiting for it!!!!! =D
  • + 20
flag CougarBait (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:10)
 WAKI, you have some valid points. The AdBusters anti-big corporate bullsh*t side of me totally agrees with you... but the geeky tech side revels in newer, lighter, stronger everything, even if it is more expensive. I try to stay roots and just go out to have a good time. I rode my last bike for close to 6 years before upgrading. I don't get new riding clothes every year, and I ride in baggy shorts or board shorts and whatever non-cotton t-shirt is handy. Still, I love seeing new technology, and I won't be satisfied until every part on my bike is top of the line. This new Evil whip is SICK!
  • - 4
flag Nyson098 (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:14) (Below Threshold) show comment
 is there any possible way to fixe the crooked revolt?
  • + 45
flag tom-cuthbert (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:17)
 Hit it with a large hammer repeatedly.
  • - 2
flag Nyson098 (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:22)
 well i was gonna ask if it was the rear triangle that was out cause i could just buy a new one
  • + 15
flag idrinkpabst (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:41)
 WAKI - if you don't like these hot, new, light, well designed Evil bikes, I'm sure there are plenty of '04 Kona Stinkys in the Buy/Sell for the price of a small farm in Indonesia. As soon as innovation stops, the exclusivity of the sport dies and soon downhill becomes irrelevant.

Sweet bike, Evil! I hope there will be one at the GRT this weekend!
  • + 20
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:14)
 "As soon as innovation stops, the exclusivity of the sport dies and soon downhill becomes irrelevant" - dude you nailed it... buehehe man I wouldn't say it better, that was my point Big Grin

sorry I'm of a weak faith and I think very little of certain riders, and yes I'm sure they woud stop riding if "sport becomes irrelevant". Hard to impress with something irrelevant. Precisly kind of people I would rather not meet on trails Big Grin Because the real tuffs will stick to what they do, because they have other things in MTB to find "relevant" than a bunch of tech toys. Someone riding a bike to really enrich himself with that activity can have fun with a stiffie stinger.

will become irrelevant - bueheheh, squeeze the arsehole of the hype long enough and the crap will start coming out buehehe
  • + 3
flag nightofthefleming (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:14)
 I would love to hang one of those crooked revolts on my wall. If you do end up getting them, I would gladly pay shipping to get one, please let us know. And the Undead is quite beautiful, great work.

Oh, and is the Sect ever going into production?
  • + 2
flag Downhill340 (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:18)
 If I had the money I would buy one straight away just from the looks but I would have to test one first Its one of the nicest looking bikes out there easily my top 5
  • + 23
flag idrinkpabst (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:56)
 @WAKI - We all have different agendas. Mine is to race against cocky, showboating Americans. I'm guessing yours is to ride trails that aren't occupied by a*sholes. I get it. I think we can each find what we're looking for without being negatively affected by Evil's new carbon bicycle.
  • + 7
flag oneghost (Apr 7, 2011 at 10:19)
 Kevin (Evil) Welcome back and here's to competition! Much respect to you! Stoked to finally see this bad boy!
  • + 8
flag RaleighVoid (Apr 7, 2011 at 10:26)
 Im only slightly sceptical. I agree carbon is very strong, but if you want a frame to last you 6 years and still be able to sell it on, carbon is not great. carbon fibre for DH racing guys, who want to shave tenths off their time - fine. but for the weekend warriors - no way. one crash into a sharp rock and its GAME OVER. shit. i just lost the game. love this bike to, its sexc
  • + 3
flag D-Owen (Apr 7, 2011 at 11:06)
 Yah, RaleighVoid said exactly what i was gonna say. For road bikes its great, its unbeatable, but for downhill if you chip off the clear-coat you have compromised that area of your frame. If you go into my pics and look at my demo you would notice that most of my frame would be compromised! There is almost no spot tht hasnt been chipped lol
  • + 1
flag bikounet (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:23)
 Yes but you have to take care of your bike... Then it won't brake Wink
  • + 2
flag Barretttx (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:49)
 I would love to buy a crooked frame for cheap. I could make some art out of it.
  • + 6
flag Philler (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:56)
 @ Waki: I dont get your state of mind, as i can see from your Avatar, you work (and live i guess) in the creative sector. But you are against the progression in this Sport? Ok Innovation is always expensive but I dont worry that our Sport becomes a Yuppie thing (or how do you want to call it, my english sucks :-)), at least the skills made you a good rider, it doesnt count on Carbon Bikes or whatever. I`m Happy that the progression is going on (i still ride a 2001 Santa Cruz Bullit and i`ll ride it till it cracks), cause thats the way it goes, there is no invention where people say: Thats It! We can nothing make better!. Just my 2 Cents...
  • + 0
flag josh-halford (Apr 7, 2011 at 13:00)
 such a nice bike, i dont understand why they have gone through all this trouble to make it as light as possible, then put 40's on the front, why not use boxxers, just as good and lighter
  • + 3
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 7, 2011 at 13:13)
 @Philler: I just got to a point when I thought that what we have right now is simply more than enough. It's more that there should be. We separated ourselves so much from the nature that going further is just doing ourselves one big disgrace... progression can happen with simple things, like wide bars but we don't need to go to space science technology, like new coating on RS Boxxer... who's gonna get "happy" with that? And my avatar hehehe... I used to have Eric Cartman there Wink

And in general I just enjoy polluting the neoliberal way of thinking Smile buy more stuff to be free and happy - I like to pollute that ideology as it pollutes the planet and peoples lives so effectively.I have nothing special against Evil bikes specificaly nor any other company I like to poo on. Ok few deserve real smashing but we'll get to them later as they release their 2012 products on Sea Otter, I'll give them some tongue lashing Big Grin

After reading Jerry Manger, "In the Absence of the Sacred", technology feels... different
  • + 1
flag Philler (Apr 7, 2011 at 13:34)
 As Dumb as it will sound for you there is never enough, i share the the "never change a running system" Philosophy but progression is the Engine that makes things better in every sector. You might think that things get worse and worst but the thing is there is a positive direction. I grow up in the socialistic part of Germany, i know that my happiness depends not on my material stuff :-) I think if we take care of our ecological Footprints we can go on like that and still be some of the luckiest guys on Earth. Dont hate on the Industrie you will not live without them...
  • + 3
flag matt-bike-baha (Apr 7, 2011 at 13:47)
 i'll have the front triangle of the knackered one and use it for the most expensive noise maker going...
  • + 3
flag Philler (Apr 7, 2011 at 13:49)
 What ?
  • + 2
flag bworthen (Apr 7, 2011 at 15:58)
 "the first bikes were TOO LIGHT" can i please have one of these so that I can pedal up AND rip down with huge downhill suspendies please?

Thanks
  • + 1
flag themagicturtle (Apr 7, 2011 at 16:18)
 Wauw !! been waiting for sooooo long for some info on this bike, was totally stoked on the Revolt, but ever since i heard about the undead i've been seaching the web for some info Wink Ship one my way as soon as they are available, pretty plz
  • + 1
flag Nyson098 (Apr 7, 2011 at 16:20)
 so Evil-bikes is there any way that you could fix the crooked revolt? I am interested in taking one of those. might make a good frame to fix or for show. Smile
  • + 1
flag makonastinky (Apr 7, 2011 at 18:15)
 Dang 300+ ... maybe you should have an ultra mega give away... that would be cool, just let everyone know they werent made right.. lol i got my doubts anything like that would ever happen, but what r u guys actually going to do with them..?
  • + 5
flag my-name-is-JACKSON (Apr 7, 2011 at 18:49)
 turn all the reject ones into snow bikes. problem solved
  • + 1
flag trekriderOWS16 (Apr 7, 2011 at 19:05)
 ^ i like that idea.....
  • + 3
flag hoolydooly (Apr 7, 2011 at 21:13)
 if you didn't read the comment at the top by evil bikes, they are still at the factory. and when they call the factory they won't even pick up the phone. they would have to make a rescue mission to get them back. orrrrr the factory is under water. so if you camp at the beach for the next few weeks you might just be able to pick one up Wink
  • + 1
flag nicholas41514 (Apr 7, 2011 at 21:48)
 So yeah sucks about the frames! This bikes is dead sex, so it will make up fro the lost bikes. It just looks solid feelingSmile Low center of gravity, from what i can see in these sexy raw carbon photos! I think i found my next DH race bike! So how much are you hoping to sell these sexy carbon bikes for complete like you have above? Also please update your website to have this sexy bike up for public viewing, just make sure you block larscha-nasfr, he might be asking for a lot of new computers.
Great job, always glad to see real engineering and passion in bikes! Keep this up and you could rival santa cruz.
  • + 1
flag mozz (Apr 7, 2011 at 23:53)
 I wish that WAKIdesigns guy would just chill out with all the theology BS...Evil has designed a nice and desirable product, prop to them, and carbon is the future as the manufacturing cost drop....Get over it, as no one else cares.
  • + 1
flag siiiiiiiiiiiiick (Apr 8, 2011 at 1:54)
 i liked the old frames but this one made me jizz!!
  • + 2
flag tombutlerr (Apr 8, 2011 at 2:37)
 I'm sure that loads of old Revolts will 'mysteriously' start to crack now they know you can get a new carbon one on warranty. Wink
  • + 5
flag Rob-Chapman (Apr 8, 2011 at 2:53)
 ^^ This arguement annoys me. Sure its really cool to have a nice bike, something to make you smile everytime you wheel it out the shed, but it doesn't have to be a carbon fibre zillion pound spaceship.In the end, when your riding, your having far too much fun to care what your bike looks like or what its made of.

Buy a bike, and ride it.
  • - 1
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 8, 2011 at 3:39)
 Why can't I come up with such sentences like Rob-Chapman... I have this disgression gland turned on all the time. Good on Rob Wink
  • + 1
flag matt-bike-baha (Apr 8, 2011 at 3:43)
 Good point, but, all these different methods of contruction and materials used all ride differently, cast, carbon, alu, steel....there's a fairly long list but they all ride uniquely, but if you have spent that much on a bike you know that rides good, you want it to look sweet as fuck.
  • + 1
flag tombutlerr (Apr 8, 2011 at 4:06)
 I'm only saying that people will break their old Revolts to get a new one? And yeah i agree with what your saying as long as it has wheels bobs your uncle.
  • + 2
flag biname (Apr 8, 2011 at 6:05)
 hope your waranty will be better on this bike than it was on the Alu one, have a friend that has been waiting on his replacement for 9 months now... But god that the new carbon one looks sexy! Good work Evil!
  • + 2
flag D-Owen (Apr 8, 2011 at 10:54)
 @ bikounet, take care of a carbon dh bike or not, some rock will still manage to damage it. The damages on my bike are not from misuse, but from riding hard.
  • + 1
flag bikounet (Apr 8, 2011 at 14:13)
 Sure that's true, but you can have the same impact on your Aluminium frame and "crook" (...? Thank you google traduction for this verb...) it, after that the geometry will be f*cked up and you would not be abble to ride it anymore... Carbon simply brakes, I think that if they're making that kind of bike, they are strong enough.
But who knows? We'll see!
  • + 1
flag D-Owen (Apr 8, 2011 at 17:53)
 I do know what you mean, but if you scratch the clear coat off a part of your carbon frame (say u wash out and bump a rock) then is considered to be compromised. It sounds silly but its true. I have had a guy come in with a carbon road fork that got a small scratch through the clear coat, we recommended that it be replaced cause it could be dangerous, then a couple weeks later it snapped on the scratch. It is a bit different because its thinner carbon on a road bike but same idea.
  • + 1
flag tom-cuthbert (Apr 8, 2011 at 22:00)
 Steve Peat crashed his Carbon V10 at an Urban DH Race before the 2010 DH season. The downtube of the frame hit a brick corner of a building at 30kph. All it had was a small scuff. Carbon works. Deal with it.
  • + 2
flag bikounet (Apr 9, 2011 at 4:00)
 Sure it works, but you have to agree that in a first time, it's a little bit scary ^^'
  • + 2
flag hoolydooly (Apr 9, 2011 at 4:02)
 how do you know that he didn't replace the frame tho. but unless you work for the company there is really no way to tell what they are doing to reinforce the strength of the carbon.
  • + 1
flag DHhazza (Feb 24, 2012 at 11:02)
 yeah, i'd pay for a crooked!
  • + 1
flag RaleighVoid (Feb 25, 2012 at 4:59)
 well my comment on Apr 7, 2011 at 10:26 has been completely blown out of the water!!
  • + 1
flag Davidsym (Apr 10, 2013 at 22:44)
 anyone know where the after resting stuff is?
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  • + 43
flag larscha-nsfr (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:34)
 Hi Evil. Can you buy me a new Macbook since i jizzed all over mine?
  • + 13
flag justincs (Apr 7, 2011 at 15:07)
 maybe they can send u a a bent frame and some windex???
  • + 5
flag MirrorOne (Apr 11, 2011 at 14:00)
 No, they won't cause they're Evil...
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  • + 27
flag pete-1 (Apr 7, 2011 at 2:57)
 Wow, that Is such a sexy frame!!! As long as it is more durable than the original Revolt And it is awesome that the Revolt warranties still outstanding will get one.
  • - 2
flag Dirt-Street-Park (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:01)
 Exactly what I was thinking! Looks sooo nice, but I hope the carbon holds up.
  • + 14
flag tom-cuthbert (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:18)
 *shploogle*
  • + 3
flag NorthEasternDH (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:21)
 all i can can say is IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this just blew me out of the water, i heard the rumors but it didn't seem possible with the issues of the company, so glad its all worked out!
  • + 2
flag Dirt-Street-Park (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:23)
 @shred-nz-media
I agree. +1 good sir.
  • - 3
flag Chamakazi (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:24)
 I came.
  • + 2
flag evil-bikes (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:25)
 Lol, they are over 25mm out at the rear axle.. Beautiful bookend though
  • + 2
flag adam-mitchell (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:44)
 Jesus i want one... Gimme gimme? I'll give you cake?! (good trade yeah?)
  • + 11
flag bunkey (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:09)
 How gutted must you be if you just got the older revolt on warranty right before this came into effect...
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flag the-freerider (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:32)
 i would just throw it off a cliff to get this one Smile
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flag Rasterman Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:24) (Below Threshold) show comment
 Nice, the frame shape looks a lot like my Session 88.
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flag masterbailer (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:35)
 OMNOMNOM
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flag RampageRules (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:42)
 send me a screwed up revolt, and ill just make it a relic! PLEASEEE Smile
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flag bunkey (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:53)
 According to Pinkbikers - Every new f*cking bike looks like a Session 88 these days Rolleyes
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flag adam-mitchell (Apr 7, 2011 at 10:18)
 Is anything it looks like an Evil Revolt crossed with a black GT Fury Carbon and a Santa Cruz v10 Carbon, just because of the real smooth lines... Not an 88?!
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flag the-freerider (Apr 7, 2011 at 11:31)
 guys you have all got iot wrong it kinda looks liek what is it called.... oh yea the evil revolt from last year!!!! you absolute tools
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flag nomnom (Apr 7, 2011 at 13:50)
 Evil better watch out, because soon they are gonna have lots of "sudden" broken 09-2010 evil frames, and then they will just have to increase the production of the carbon frames to warranty the aluminium ones. Great warranty idea, just hope that doesn't run them out again. Cool frame guys!
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flag tobiebiker (Apr 7, 2011 at 16:22)
 There still making the aluminum ones
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flag Demo-250 (Apr 7, 2011 at 20:03)
 Man, looks like a killer rig. I remember when no one believed me about the Carbon even though I heard it straight from a rep. I almost started to doubt it myself after such a long time with no new news. Stoked to see them back in the game and hope to see more models soon! (We all know Zink is gonna need a slope bike)
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flag ridesanoldskool (Apr 7, 2011 at 22:06)
 this bike could be yours for the low price of 8 grand haha not worth it
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flag cyberhawk Plus (Apr 8, 2011 at 0:58)
 8 grand is a total bike you mean.. i build mine,, so 1 in dollar is in euro 0.80..? 5500 for bike is 2500-3000 for frame.. standard deal i would say ? if it comes with shock ??>
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flag D-Owen (Apr 8, 2011 at 10:59)
 why do people think everything looks like an 88? cause lets be honest this looks nothing like it.
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flag richierocket (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:13)
 I would love an old one for a bong and a new one to shred!
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flag iJumpinpuddles (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:51)
 All I can say to that is.... Fuck yea.
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flag Boxxer1990 (Apr 7, 2011 at 16:24)
 Yes mate! haha
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flag bradwalton Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:09)
 I have to admit, this is one of the best looking bikes I've seen, and I bet the ride quality is nothing short of amazing. Hopefully Evil 2.0 will leave a better taste in the mouth for some unfortunate consumers. Best wishes during the testing phase, I'm certain Luke will put it through it's paces.

Although the same story could have happened if their product would have been made domestically, I would bet that a US manufacturer would have gladly worked with the company to remedy the Revolt problem. Not to mention, you could have actually been there during production to know that frame 1 of 300 was mis-aligned and not created so much industrial waste. Accidents happen, and somebody lost a lot of money over it. Glad to see that Evil can continue.

Santa Cruz proved that carbon dh bikes can exist, but with as much crash and shuttle damage is involved in DH riding, I will be thoroughly impressed if anyone can actually keep a carbon frame going past it's 2 year warranty expiration. A minor scuff could turn into catastrophic failure pretty quickly. Not that aluminum is any kind of super material in itself due to the finite fatigue life. At least steel and titanium frames can be repaired if they break, but these days people consider everything to be disposable anyways so who really cares?
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flag deadatbirth (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:18)
 SC has a lifetime warranty on their carbon DH bike. also GT has had their carbon Fury out for a few years already with little issue on them breaking
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flag bikounet (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:43)
 And when your carbon frame is broken... You can do nothing with it... You can't use Carbon again, that sucks...
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flag s4nt4cruz (Apr 7, 2011 at 16:02)
 @deadatbirth, bradwalton is actually correct on the warranty. Santa Cruz offers a 2 year "limited frame warranty" in which they will replace your frame if it should fail for a manufacturing reason (this means that the damage is not the riders fault). They do however offer a lifetime "no-fault replacement" which is another way of saying if your frame gets damaged from crashing/shuttling/etc. they will sell you one for below msrp.

On the other hand it really surprises me how many people have these preconceived notions on the strength of carbon used in downhill applications. I can say with strong assurance that the majority of people commenting on the fact that carbon downhill bikes can have "catostrophic failiures pretty quickly" have never seen, much less ridden a carbon DH bike in real life. It's all internet speculation. One of the great things about carbon is that you can layer and weave it differently to achieve a desired weight or strength. An example would be the thin carbon lays used on lightweight roadbikes to achieve a lightweight and strong frame. Carbon used in DH applications is layered much more heavily due the the fact that there is not a tight weight constraint (given that you obviously aren't going to layer it far beyond the necessary amount calculated through computer stress test programs). The companies manufacturing carbon DH bikes are not dumb, nor are they naive to the abuse that these bikes will be enduring. They take this into account when engineering the bikes and have strong certainty as to what they can hold up to. There is a reason carbon DH bikes are starting to pop up and that is because it is in fact a great material to incorporate into the downhill market. Until you all have support behind your speculation on "how weak carbon is" I suggest you stop dumping your ignorant comments onto bike forums.
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flag oonser Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 19:18)
 Thank you for saying something. it gets really old seeing people be so blind.
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flag bradwalton Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 21:47)
 I never said carbon was weak, and my comment was not based on the strength of the material. Carbon's weakness is in the microscopic fractures that occur with abrasion, including what will be seen with crashes and shuttling in the case of DH bikes. There are companies that made full carbon bikes that have since put aluminum chainstays on the carbon bike due to such issues. I have seen a carbon bike explode due to cable rub, and the guy ended up with carbon shards in his leg. But, you guys are right, it's all speculation, I'm ignorant, and nothing I said is relevant to a bike forum. You are free to buy what you want.
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flag bradwalton Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 22:00)
 Don't get me wrong, it's amazing innovation, and I look forward to seeing carbon's limits expanded. I am hopeful that they don't break. There is a lot of environmental waste produced from the manufacturing process and there is no current means of recycling the material.
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flag s4nt4cruz (Apr 7, 2011 at 22:31)
 Yeah wasn't trying to argue against you at all, merely using your choice of words to describe a response I see all to common when anything about carbon DH bikes comes up. There is no doubt that carbon as a material in general does have that disadvantage, however, carbon laid as thick as it is on many of the DH bikes I have seen, I think you would be surprised to see how strong of an impact it would require before you saw a point of initial failiure.
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flag atrokz (Apr 8, 2011 at 7:34)
 And to think I wasted 6 years studying materials and mechanics to become a manufacturing engineer! I could have learned everything there is to know about materials, metalurgy, and mechanical properties on pinkbike!!
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flag gnarbar (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:03)
 Hi Kevin, I met you at Port Angeles a few years ago when you were testing the original prototype Revolt. Good to see you made it through these dark tough times and are still stoked and pushing hard with Evil Bikes. Good luck with this, I hope you persevere with all this and get past any current consumer perceptions about Evil Bikes - the industry needs more niche products and manufacturers and rider-owned companies.
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flag Mumby Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:24)
 They should have named it simply "dead", then they could have included a graphic of Bruce Campbell with his chainsaw and boomstick.
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flag ctd07 (Apr 8, 2011 at 19:57)
 I love how Evil admits to keeping previous problems hush on the comments here while still selling the old revolt... what happens if there's major issues with this bike too? - will that be kept quiet as well or will honesty prevail this time? That said, is does look like a mean bike! I just think a little more humble pie should be eaten - prove your product before claiming its gonna be sweet! The MTB industry is rife with such early production cock-ups that would never be tolerated in other industries like auto or aero engineering; riders need to stop fooling for 'shiny new stuff' and hype and start boycotting these companies that are raping our sport!
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flag lord-01 (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:24)
 Maybe they can update their website now ... www.evil-bikes.com ... According to it they still have
Vanderham and Smith onboard
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flag bikounet (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:44)
 I saw websites where they still are pre-ording 2007 Santa Cruz V10... So there, it's not a big deal for the moment :p
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flag mongoose85 (Apr 7, 2011 at 10:00)
 Good for you guys! Big Grin

I know a lot of local factory riders that will be thrilled to hear this/see this. We where all a little worried here in WA about what was gonna happen to Evil. Terrible luck with the factory, thats total BS. Massive kudos for standing by your customers and offering them this new frame to replace their old ones!!!
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flag bolognaknot (Apr 7, 2011 at 21:54)
 good deal guys.... I'm not gonna pretend I know anything about carbon but I do know I love bacon and if this bike has any trace of a scent of bacon I'm in. Congrats seriously I'll give you credit for sticking in there. Something has to be said about ya'll being some stand up fuckers. I appreciate a company that seems to be down to earth guys
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flag Keiron (May 31, 2011 at 10:17)
 LOL "stand up f*ckers".
True say tho, needed to be expressed!
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flag dingdong2 (Apr 8, 2011 at 11:13)
 Looks sweet and I wish them the best. Kind of funny though all the people here already claiming it's the bike of the year or best bike they've ever seen based on a photo and short article. Just as they did when the Revolt was originally unveiled, which turned out not to be the best bike ever. Oops. I guess bikes with a long proven track record (ex V10) aren't as cool though, or maybe just need some zombies.
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flag JokerMachine (Apr 7, 2011 at 2:59)
 Hodaka? Can't possibly be the same Hodaka that used to make dirt bikes back in the 1970's and 80's, can it?
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flag sixthelement (Apr 7, 2011 at 14:15)
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flag JokerMachine (Apr 11, 2011 at 9:57)
 Thanks for the insightful comment.
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flag sixthelement (Apr 12, 2011 at 13:40)
 I did not meant to reply to your comment. It was a mistake, and i was not able to erase the coment, so that is why i put 3 dots. Sorry
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flag TristanL (Aug 22, 2011 at 14:53)
 There are only 2 dots..
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flag rorywood (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:06)
 wow those guys who broke or had problems with the alu revolts are lucky people!!!!
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flag crs-one (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:04)
 Waiting a year for a warranty frame and getting ANOTHER largely unproven one is not my idea of good luck...
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flag simpleride (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:18)
 Well I am still releaved because when you ride a frame for five months than sits in a shop for Eight. Something is better than a big fat Zero
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flag godfather (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:18)
 Really good to see some life in the Evil camp. I hope this gets them back on track. There was never an issue with how the Revolt performed, so if the QC issues are behind them, it's game on!
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flag haljohnson (Apr 7, 2011 at 17:54)
 i've been riding the same carbon bike since 97 and crashed it into plenty of 'sharp rocks' and the game continues. tuned properly carbon rules, it's nice and stiff, super light, and looks badass. best best, when you get your new carbon frame go contra styles - up down up down left right left right B A select start.
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flag yuneek (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:59)
 wtf happened to the lines & the proportions? in detail, the top tube looks like a piece of driftwood, the rest isn't much better either.. :/
more tension in the lines paired with well-proportioned tubes and it's a sexy beast.. Wink
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flag elzorroinphilly (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:18)
 which part looks like driftwood? the carbon fiber layup?
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flag yuneek (Apr 8, 2011 at 1:19)
 the whole top tube. well, let's wait for the production bike. Smile
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flag ExCactus (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:05)
 People bash on carbon here, but I bet they drool over V10's... Well, good on ya guys, and good luck with evil 2.0!

Oh, and can you guys make a nice new trail ripper named the Boomstick? Train of though after seeing the Undead was Evil Dead, Bruce Campbell, Boomstick... For the naming suggestion, I'll let you guys give me a prototype Wink
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flag starcbiker (Apr 7, 2011 at 18:35)
 Hey evil, awesome job. really glad your doing people right, sending people your brand new carbon bike who had f#cked ones? that's awesome. I'm glad you all are thinking about the customers that were screwed over for such a long time. there were some shitty moments in the past but it looks like evil is back on the path to success. great looking bike and great job doing the right thing.
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flag brummaman (Apr 9, 2011 at 5:37)
 questions to evil:

Will the graphics be below the clear coat on the final version of the Undead frame?
Is this revised shock linkage still the delta system?
Are there any advantages to the new linkage in comparison to the old one on the revolt?
Will there be laser etched deltasystem logos on the pivot caps and on the linkage hardware like it was on the ones of the revolt frame?
Will you be able to turn the shock an run the piggyback on top like it was on the revolt?
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flag mountguitars (Apr 7, 2011 at 17:45)
 first was GT and then santa cruz and now comes evil. to the carbon haters out there, eat your hearts out. carbon is here to stay! now all they need to do is make it affordable, hehe.
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flag rjmc (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:45)
 Can I send Evil a warranty claim for a new keyboard? Mine has drool all over it...
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flag dom69foco (Apr 7, 2011 at 10:56)
 Yes, but you'll have to wait 10 months until they release the carbon fibre Keyboard 2.0
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flag Tr011 (Apr 7, 2011 at 11:02)
 10 months! i cant wait that bloody long fml
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flag samnation (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:44)
 Props to everyone on this. I know quite a few people who after seeing evils that couldn't be fixed kept asking why try a carbon one and well when you go for a drastic redesign of the company its the only thing to do.
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flag love2freeride (Apr 8, 2011 at 21:35)
 Dont they know how carbon fibre composite works? You can't put sharp corners in the material, it only works in tension. Can't wait to see that rear-end explode on A-Line from an off-axis landing.

Bike companies need materials experts so they stop treating CF like black aluminum. You want to make a CF DH bike? Fine. But alu principals don't apply. Hopefully they figure this out before someone gets hurt.
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flag rab-elliott (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:49)
 Why do I have a 2009 revolt with none of the said problems. I can put my hand on my heart and say that I have had no problems with my revolt. Is that lucky or unlucky? depends on what why you look at it.

I didn't think that I would ever consider buying another bike as I love my revolt BUT this changes everything. If it tracks and rides anywhere close to the Revolt it s going to be a winner for sure.
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flag khuynh (Apr 7, 2011 at 17:27)
 Beautiful Frame, but what make Evil think they can make the carbon frame better than their alumium since they failed horribly at making it. This frame is not cheap by any mean. I like the fact that they are offering replacement frame for the old aluminum ones with the new carbon. Being only a couple of years in R&R on carbon frames does not mean you know what you are doing and that it will hold up to the test of time and riders. For the money I'd rather buy the SC V10 carbon that's proven to be WC racing machine. Don't want to bash Evil but these are the facts from frame buyers. Hopefully the undead lives up to it's reputation or this CO. will be BK soon.
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flag Canadmos (Apr 7, 2011 at 18:18)
 Where were the bad Revolts made? Do any other bikes from other companies get made at the same place?

This one looks like a cool bike..It also looks like my hockey stick haha
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flag Demo-250 (Apr 8, 2011 at 19:59)
 Pacific Cycles I believe. Pretty sure Banshee is still being produced at Pacific.
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flag EddyDave (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:35)
 Oh my God. Never been so in love with a bike. That thing is amazing. I want one. NEVER gonna be able to afford one. Not for a good few years.
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flag Wursti (Apr 16, 2012 at 7:13)
 is evil out of order or why they aren`t actually the web site? i want to buy an undead but i don´t no where and when? why markus stöckl didn´t buy evil or be a part of it like he tell sin an interview? i
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flag brummaman (Apr 9, 2011 at 5:30)
 questions to evil:

Will the graphics be below the clear coat on the final version of the Undead frame?
Is this revised shock linkage still the delta system?
Are there any advantages to the new linkage in comparison to the old one on the revolt?
Will there be laser etched deltasystem logos on the pivot caps and on the linkage hardware like it was on the ones of the revolt frame?
Will you be able to turn the shock an run the piggyback on top like it was on the revolt?
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flag Keiron (Apr 17, 2011 at 10:58)
 I'm glad the majority are all negative about it. Just means when I get one, all you miserable lot wont have the same bike! The bike is SICK and I shall have one just because I can : )
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flag titaniumtit (May 18, 2011 at 1:06)
 Hey Kevin, Tim from UK here wanting/needing to know where and when you shipping over to Silverfishuk!?
I want to rock the Undead and go kick it up Scotland and around soon see.
Money waiting ;d
Regards
Tim.
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flag nicolais2000 (Apr 7, 2011 at 18:55)
 I am really looking forward on the coming years and the rebirth of carbon fibre bikes especially in DH. Until last year I was riding an 97 GT STS as AM bike. I loved each second on that rig
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flag Nyson098 (Apr 8, 2011 at 14:34)
 I need a bike like this, even though im 16. id like to get better at downhilling and all i have done it on is a downhill would be nice to try it on a fully some day. time to save some money for this.
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flag fortunateson09 (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:52)
 So, now that's sorted, does this mean you can get someone to spend a bit of time on the Evil Bikes website? Please? It really can't be that hard...
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flag evil-bikes (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:57)
 Its been done for a year, we are launching when we have photos of the pre production bikes.... Was kind of pointless when you don't have anything to sell...
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flag sam264 (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:56)
 What about the sovereign? I thought you had been selling those recently? Or at least I've seen a couple of reviews and people with them.

Oh by the way, I think it's really cool that you take the time to speak to potential customers on pinkbike etc Smile
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flag oonser Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 19:25)
 Yeah same here. this is the first time iv seen someone from the actual bike compony talking to us here on pink bike. That just made me respect the company a whole lot more. i think i might be choosing this here bicycle over that v10...(:
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flag rideindawoods (Apr 7, 2011 at 5:25)
 Throw the old Revolts out to the dealers at the local bike shops. They can probably find a lot of interesting stuff to do with them. Hang them up on the wall, make random stuff out of them, who knows.
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flag brazilian-monkey (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:07)
 i want to know about warranty, I have one and all bushings and bearings and delta sytem is crack, what do I do to solve my problem?
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flag focofox37 (Apr 7, 2011 at 14:10)
 Ahhh You Know What It Is... Black & Yellow, Black & Yellow, Black & Yellow, Black & Yellow!!! I want one... can I haz?
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flag bruc321 (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:48)
 This is easily the nicest bike I have ever set eyes on. People who design and manufacture these need absolutely huge props. Wish I was rich :/
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flag nhrider44 (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:27)
 Really digging the integrated fork bumpers/cable guides. This bike is all the tasty looks of the revolt, but (hopefully) none of the problems. I sure want one.
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flag bradwalton Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:15)
 Agreed, the bolt on cable guides are brilliant.
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flag k2dan (Apr 8, 2011 at 15:23)
 man reading the comments here will take hours ,nice bike love it ,i ride because i love it thats the only things that matters
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flag Flyboy7777 (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:08)
 Bueatiful! Always loved the EVIL Revolt. Good to see the bike back.

Has there been any news on the EVIL Order bike? Will it be released?
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flag evil-bikes (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:17)
 Hopefully early summer... We are changing up a lot of things here.. It will most certainly be released. ASAP
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flag Flyboy7777 (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:23)
 Awesome Thanks
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flag tobiebiker (Apr 7, 2011 at 20:39)
 You guys down at evil better accept my sponsoreship haha I gota get my hands on this
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flag chochocat (Apr 8, 2011 at 4:20)
 BLABLABLABLABLABLA,... Who cares if you can buy this new hot bike or not, if you can, buy it, if you don´t, then keep riding your bike and thats it just get fun on your thing,......golfers, have fun with old sticks too i guess, MX is the same, moto,cars,... is not the tool that makes you have fun, is the thing you do with it, and how you do it,, damn tale tellers and fashion victims
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flag cloaked (Apr 7, 2011 at 17:02)
 Filip Polc and Wyn Masters on Carbon bikes! I am truly scared and excited. Those guys are going to over boost and enter the Stratosphere at some point this WC Season.
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flag jgreen99 (Nov 16, 2011 at 17:37)
 Maybe u should send a new evil revolt frame to the original owners of the frames That didn't get warranty incase they brake after the 2 year point.
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flag drop20 (Apr 7, 2011 at 19:28)
 i am currently available to take any bent bookends that you might happen to have laying around. if you do get them back i would gladly pay shipping for a few.
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flag konadh15 (Apr 9, 2011 at 18:14)
 This bike scares me. They couldn't make an aluminum frame that worked so now they are going full carbon?
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flag bike4boy (Apr 8, 2011 at 16:49)
 if you are giving them away ill take a few. i know what i could make out of them. hehe
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flag bloodie (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:13)
 I really love the geometry, looks like a solid all round bike; Pinkbike has to test this on a UK DH course.
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flag kingfish666 (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:54)
 i love this bike good luck in the new year EVIL, and it's great to see owners responding on the forum!
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flag Nyson098 (May 29, 2011 at 18:43)
 they should have a give away for one of these evil undead's. and everyone could pay a couple buck's per ticket
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flag aireeek (Apr 23, 2011 at 16:33)
 Its interesting that Stobel isn't running this bike at the first WC. I wonder why?
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flag Antti69 (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:18)
 Carbon is the future. You want it or not. Very good material and this bike looks hot!
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flag MadJeeperCJ5 (Apr 7, 2011 at 11:10)
 Looks like we're entering an era of carbon fiber DH bikes. I guess we'll see who comes next...
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flag Leesethebeast (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:51)
 You can actually discern how the linkage works this time! very sick, even though I'll never ride one Frown (carbon = $$$$$$)
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flag domminator (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:53)
 SICKEST FUCKING BIKE EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if i get the money im getting one
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flag commencalcruzer (Apr 7, 2011 at 15:34)
 can you make one thats designed with 160mm of travel? would be awesome for the UK
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flag blackohio (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:47)
 Congrats Kevin! I know this press release has been a longtime coming and probably a huge relief to you.
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flag bikeronbowen (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:35)
 i'll be pretty happy to get mine, been a a year almost, looking forward to this!
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flag seang14 (Apr 8, 2011 at 9:04)
 anybody know what happednd with the frames and the company someone please shed some light on this
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flag KennyKillsIt (Apr 7, 2011 at 14:19)
 My session just shivered, she's afraid of this sexy ass beast of a bike. Damn
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flag socalshreder (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:02)
 I think Evil bikes are rad. There ads and graphics are sick too. I like that type of art.
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flag saturnine (Apr 7, 2011 at 10:06)
 i want a revolt to hang on my wall
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flag oneghost (Apr 7, 2011 at 10:22)
 that is some top notch molding. very clean and attractive Kevin, Congrats on it!
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flag freddiehunter (Apr 7, 2011 at 5:06)
 hottest downhill bike of the year
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flag seidla (Apr 7, 2011 at 5:47)
 niiice, the black + yellow... must be an expensive fella... and, hey - seeing a FOX on that one makes me smile!
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flag stewartluxton (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:40)
 Dear Santa,
I have been very good boy............................... Wink
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flag timmyelle (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:47)
 Looking dope as hell. hopefully it works out for EVIL.
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flag chalky (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:19)
 Any sort of sneak-peak info on a short travel/trail bike from Evil??
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flag goonrider (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:26)
 when they release the weight of it i'm sure the weight weenies will love it!
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flag OllyJ (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:04)
 Not necessarily, they have to use a fair bit of carbon to re-inforce the bike for DH stresses. It'll be a bit lighter for sure, but not miles such as In XC alu/carbon comparisons. The main reason apart from the slight weight win is usually to do with the actual strength to weight ratio of the carbon, plus the way it handles flex and the general feel of the material compared to others! Still, Evil may prove us wrong Wink
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flag emarquar (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:59)
 Isn't the carbon V10 basically the same weight at the old one? Don't get me wrong I'm sure it'll be lighter, but it's not going to lose a third of it's weight either.
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flag cartz (Apr 7, 2011 at 10:33)
 I think the V10 is quite a bit lighter, haven't checked out the exact frame weight but i know you can build them up to be as light as 35 lbs for a cool 8 grand. I'd imagine this wouldn't be super far off?
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flag OllyJ (Apr 7, 2011 at 13:09)
 Exactly emarquar, it is a little lighter, but not as much as you would expect, its about 9.9 carbon to 10.3 standard on the V10, so yeah, its noticeable, but not huge. If you compare it to an XC bike where you have far less stress and can use far less carbon layers around the strong points (think 'weld areas') then you notice a large difference between the Alu and Carbon version (though I think Ti hardtails are the way forward for XC lightweights Wink ), but yeah, it appears to be more about the feel of the material for the DH! And 35Lbs isn't that light any more, you can cough up for a Mondraker summum at about 5k for a full build which comes in at 33.6 Lbs give or take depending on which tyres you run and all that, and it ain't even carbon, plus it pedals a LOT better Wink
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flag steve-815 (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:00)
 Loving the first sentence haha
Bike looks nice Big Grin
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flag revoltDH (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:06)
 orgasm on wheels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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flag Ralfinger (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:19)
 that is just one sexy motherhucker... sucks that i cant affort any of the new stuff thats coming out! really loving it!
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flag haffer12 (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:21)
 very nice! good to hear that the problems with the welding etc. are out the way! i want one!
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flag Outcast77 (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:13)
 Bike porn and im now off to the bathroom with a pic of the bike ..?
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flag Shibuyakid (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:57)
 Back from the grave....I love zombie movies, can't wait to watch this beast ripping through the DH courses! Big Grin
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flag jgottya1 (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:52)
 Evil looks like it hailed from Heaven !
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flag shishka (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38)
 Ya that looks sweet, e 13 stepping it up. Plus they warrantying revolts for the new carbon. Nobody else doing that in the industry. I temped to buy a revolt and demo it so I can be on the list for this new jump off. Hmm carbon race bike for plattekill maybe not. This whole zombie theme isn't working for me, just because it black frame doesn't make it zombie. The lines on this bike look more like fomula one racing.
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flag deadatbirth (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:15)
 Evil is not E13. and no one else is doing this type of warranty exchange because no one else had issues getting customers their warranty frames like Evil has.
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flag shishka (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:20)
 Wow thanks for that, now I can breathe. I stand corrected lady, nevr going to call them e 15 ever again. Even though they produce e 13 products.
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flag deadatbirth (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:26)
 did we all miss that memo that Evil Bikes produces E13 products (who's owned by The Hive)?
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flag shishka (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:30)
 I didn't think we had to be soo critically correct on every word stated here. Next time I email you my post first so you can proof it for me.
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flag deadatbirth (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:32)
 sorry you got butthurt for being wrong.
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flag marzocchi548 (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38)
 @skiska .... fail.
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flag candymuffin (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:00)
 i just had a bit of a crisis this bike looks absolutely amazing well done evil
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flag gromhit (Apr 9, 2011 at 18:03)
 Very good to see more brands moving to carbon fiber.
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flag andymac007 (Apr 7, 2011 at 17:17)
 Two words, THE LAW!!! Razz
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flag Rockurshoxoff95 (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:08)
 You can count on the fact that I am DEFINATELY buying one of these for the 2012 season !!!!
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flag goonrider (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:13)
 cam zinks crankworx rig??
short travel version maybe?
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flag LukeCowley77 (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:25)
 Strobel is 1 lucky guy to be getting that beast of a ride!!!
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flag woodline (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:26)
 wow that bike is super sick!! Wink
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flag samoneill07 (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:39)
 nukeproof stuff would looks sick on this!
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flag downhilljumpjimmy (Apr 10, 2011 at 9:14)
 are you giving away any of the revolts for less?
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flag paulclarke (Apr 10, 2011 at 2:40)
 apple computer of the bike world
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flag Tharris (Apr 7, 2011 at 20:15)
 they look sick !! look heaps cleaner now
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flag pitchcomp08 (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:45)
 one of the sickest bikes ive ever seen .......
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flag JLXDHER (Apr 8, 2011 at 6:45)
 That shit looks BAD FAST!
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flag norco10 (Apr 8, 2011 at 15:43)
 I all ready bought it jk lol
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flag matteoganora (Apr 8, 2011 at 0:56)
 Maybe the most beautiful carbon DH ever seen!
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flag doorknob100 (Apr 8, 2011 at 16:51)
 Probably the coolest looking bike I've ever seen. Big Grin
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flag xxxxfarmer21 (Apr 7, 2011 at 20:09)
 Straight up beautiful bike.
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flag arquitetodh (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:18)
 sexy machine!! I want one!!
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flag trdracer94 (Apr 7, 2011 at 22:31)
 I've had a hard-on since I saw this.... and that was earlier today!
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flag over9000ninja (Apr 7, 2011 at 19:46)
 devinci wilson anybody... without the split pivot i mean
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flag mountaindaveman (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:54)
 I just creamed my boxXers(my undershorts)AAAhhh Ahhhh!!! LOL
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flag Ali061 (Apr 10, 2011 at 15:14)
 I want that bike soooo bad. In neon yellow of course Big Grin
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flag ButtonPusher (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:56)
 Whoa... that... is... soooo... nice..!
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flag ObservedTrials (Apr 7, 2011 at 11:54)
 Is it possible to paint over the carbon fiber?
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flag EricThiessen (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:48)
 looks sooo sick!!!! cant wait to see a full review on the final product.
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flag timfrancis (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:00)
 really like it. can't wait for a general release!
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flag rhyslad (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:05)
 lol the zombies are off red dead undead nightmare safe. x
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flag nineinchofhonkingtravel Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:06)
 i would buy it now ahhaha1!!!
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flag C-D0G (Apr 7, 2011 at 11:37)
 best looking carbon bike out there!
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flag ckrider7 (Apr 7, 2011 at 15:34)
 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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flag VFreehd (Apr 10, 2011 at 21:54)
 Yep Seattle has got a good bike scene.
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flag unclemiha (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:37)
 I like the look of it.Would they sponsor me?
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flag northwestdhdad Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 10:18)
 Good to see this Kevin! Go Luke!
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flag HighlandRider121 (Nov 27, 2011 at 17:58)
 does anyone know when they will be available
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flag Klaufi (Apr 7, 2011 at 5:15)
 Where do i sign up for on of these?
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flag CycleKandy (Aug 29, 2012 at 22:25)
 I want a sovereign
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flag doctot (Aug 5, 2012 at 5:36)
 o quadro e em carbono?
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flag johnny77 (Apr 9, 2011 at 13:25)
 I would definitely take a bad revolt frame. Let me know if it's possible.
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flag HEMAN147 (Apr 12, 2011 at 17:40)
 SICK
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flag mudmandhbrazil (Apr 11, 2011 at 4:57)
 peace of art
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flag Caliber38heavy (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:08)
 I want that one!!!
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flag PhoS (Apr 7, 2011 at 8:03)
 id chuck it , any carbon FR rigs coming?
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flag lemonhed Plus (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:18)
 argh... want one!
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flag dennisbarrera (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:03)
 Sweet bike
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flag SAbrad (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:19)
 well id better get some tissues...
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flag MIsukka (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:19)
 Nice!
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flag norco-rider247 (Apr 7, 2011 at 20:46)
 ill take that off of you
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flag BikeNerd150 (Apr 7, 2011 at 15:22)
 Me=want one so bad
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flag correone (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:58)
 owesome, sick i want it
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flag LTmtb (Apr 7, 2011 at 10:33)
 dream bike?
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flag josh090 (Apr 7, 2011 at 14:13)
 those photos are amazing
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flag MatiRide (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:56)
 AmazingWink
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flag gmkreger (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:41)
 EVIL NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO ANSWER THE PHONE, AND RETURN E-MAILS TO THERE DEALERS! THESE GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF JOKERS. THEY DONT MAKE BIKES.
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flag Frostypeak (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:28)
 what a beauty!
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flag PacaroSandwitch (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:46)
 sick ride yo!
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flag skippy888 (Apr 7, 2011 at 18:24)
 RC4 upside down?
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flag slalomkas (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:48)
 Some great bike porn
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flag BCrider79 (Apr 7, 2011 at 20:27)
 omg
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flag sumarongi (Apr 7, 2011 at 22:41)
 Any other colors?
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flag jackhunter (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:48)
 that look beaut!!!
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flag blackjack16 (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:42)
 looks very sick
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flag Supertank (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:31)
 frikkin Hot !!!
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flag snyda (Apr 7, 2011 at 19:51)
 Want very badly
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flag ueric1231 (Apr 7, 2011 at 12:57)
 what with the paint or reflection looks like plastic?...
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flag OllyJ (Apr 7, 2011 at 13:10)
 Its clear coated carbon fibre, go and actually read the article! lol
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flag ericbkeep (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:29)
 Ok I don't ride dh but I just jizzed in my pants
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flag bbeaudoin (Apr 7, 2011 at 23:44)
 Hi
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flag longgully-freerider (Apr 12, 2011 at 1:06)
 i made a mess in my pants when i saw the bike...
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flag vernondan (Apr 7, 2011 at 11:48)
 ho hum...single pivot lameness....that said, it looks the part for sure.
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flag spaced (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:17)
 I really like it. Though a non black paint would make it look better imho.
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flag pokalface (Apr 7, 2011 at 16:58)
 cool but the name is evil,you all don't believe in GOD
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flag ibike99 (Apr 9, 2011 at 14:27)
 snapity snap snap
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flag therook1110 (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:13)
 Looks almost identical to the 2011 Devinci Wilson
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flag deadatbirth (Apr 7, 2011 at 9:19)
 it looks almost identical to the prior Revolt....which came out before the Wilson
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flag Dexta (Apr 7, 2011 at 13:45)
 He's right the front triangle looks very similar...... Wilson looks better though!
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flag insanitylevel9 (Apr 7, 2011 at 4:53)
 looks a lot like a wilson
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flag allenrotstein (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:30)
 The carbon fiber work on the swing arm is pretty poor... It looks all crushed and stuff..
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flag evil-bikes (Apr 7, 2011 at 3:35)
 Its a UD raw carbon with a clear coat, so it looks like an oil spill with wrinkles when the light hits it. Nearly impossible to get a good photo unless you're in the studio
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flag OllyJ (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:05)
 I love the look of it Razz haha, I'm a bit sick of the whole 'pretty' checker layer carbon gets over the top to make it look 'better', love it raw, looks mint Smile
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flag Eyon (Apr 7, 2011 at 6:33)
 sorry to geek out on you bro, but USUALLY the "pretty" carbon isnt on for show. Carbon comes in different sizes of weave, 3k and 12k are common, and in this case Unidirectional (UD) cloth. Basically 3k and 12k give that real nice carbon weave look, where as UD cloth all the threads go in the same direction and give it the "matte look"

Its why CF is so tunable, if you made the same frame, one from 3k, one from 12k and one from UD cloth, they would all have very different feels to them, and you can use different cloths in different areas to make different bits flex more/less or stronger/lighter.

Sometimes the bike might have a final layer of very light 3k just for the looks, which is fine, but what goes underneath the skin is usually far from "just for looks" and could be a total mash up of weaves
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flag sakucee (Apr 7, 2011 at 7:20)
 You mean 'sometimes' as in 'most of the time' there is pretty layer on top.
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flag justincs (Apr 7, 2011 at 15:25)
 huh!?!
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flag OllyJ (Apr 7, 2011 at 15:46)
 Eyon, yeah, I understand the different strengths/thicknesses of the carbon cloths, (cheers for typing up though, a lot of people just don't get carbon at all, and then bash it for no reason because there cousins mates brother hear of a mate at work who snapped his carbon bike) but whilst the weave pattern is genuinely part of its structure, its whats been sold as 'carbon fibre' to people, you see the pattern and you think of CF straight away, so there has always been an element of a thin layer being placed over everything to give it the instantly recognizable (and very sellable) look. I reckon now that people get it and understand it more, and now that everyone is probably a bit sick of seeing it everywhere, the manufacturers aren't having to make it look pretty, function befor form is coming back into play, do you kinda agree with that? Refreshing that its not happening so much now anyway Wink Beer
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