2019 Pinkbike Awards: Value Mountain Bike of the Year Winner

Dec 19, 2019
by Richard Cunningham  
2019 Pinkbike Awards

Tag on "value" to "Mountain Bike of the Year" and it conjures up images of less-than-desirable components and second-tier frame construction. This year's winner, however alters that perception in every respect. It's not perfect, but it makes a good case for it.

Before we break the news, this is a good time to point out that this year was the first since we began our year-end awards that the landscape of value priced, high-performance mountain bikes was well represented. So much so that selecting our four nominees; the Vitus Escarpe, 29 VR, Marin's Alpine Trail 7, Ibis' Ripmo AF, and Guerrilla Gravity's Trail Pistol, was more of a celebration of a new and welcome era than a heated debate here at PB. So congratulations to all the nominees, including our surprising winner:


Guerrilla Gravity Trail Pistol

Carbon front triangle, made in Colorado, competitively priced, and you can customize its spec and ride dynamics.

Guerrilla Gravity’s 29-inch-wheel Trail Pistol emerged from our most recent Field Tests as a surprising favorite. Labeled in the downcountry category, it proved itself worthy on the climbs, and wowed us with a mixture of capable handling at speed and downright enjoyable manners everywhere else. Standard builds feature impressive component selections, beginning at $3,695 and topping out at $5,895 for the Race model featured in the Field Test review. The frame only is priced at $2,195, which isn't far off from the price of an aluminum frame from many other companies.

Keep in mind that we're talking about a made-in-Colorado frame and that price becomes all the more impressive. It's also worth noting that there's a difference between a good value and something being 'cheap." Even the entry-level Guerrilla Gravity will still cost you a decent chunk of change, but when it's compared it to other carbon bikes, the value becomes evident.

New for 2020, the carbon version of the Trail Pistol features a flip chip on the upper link that alters the suspension feel from firm to supple. Up front, a similar flip chip arrangement at the headset lengthens or shortens the reach by ten millimeters. Add that adjustability to its modern numbers and already dialed-in handling and you get a machine that can make almost any trail rider happy.

Guerilla Gravity goes one step further by offering customers the option to tailor their component selections and even offers custom colors and the ability to purchase a different swingarm to convert a bike from one model to another. Oh, and there's a 'secret menu' version of the Trail Pistol called the Pistola that has 130mm of rear travel (up from 120mm) thanks to a longer stroke shock. That's a lot of options for a bike that claims to be a cross-country oriented trail machine, but that's how Guerrilla Gravity rolls.

The Trail Pistol's rival nominees also scored high marks for handling, component selection and value. The Ibis Ripmo AF earned our respect for the most bang for for the least amount of bucks, followed closely by the long-legged Marin Alpine Trail 7 and downcountry Vitus Escarpe 29 VR.

Guerrilla Gravity's Trail Pistol, however, takes the win for Value Mountain Bike of the Year because it offers a customizable, elite-level chassis and (thanks to its direct-sales model), builds priced almost a thousand dollars below the most well respected brands. Plus, it's an opportunity to own a truly customized, made-in-USA boutique bike with a distinctive profile.

Congratulations to Guerilla Gravity's Trail Pistol: 2019 Pinkbike Value Mountain Bike of the Year.


  • 157 25
 Umm what? It seems like you even admitted that this is the wrong choice in the article. "The Ibis Rimpmo AF earned our respect for the most bang for for the least amount of bucks" Doesn't this mean it's the best value?
  • 15 6
 But it's not carbon sooo...
  • 9 3
 Ya...………..I thought the same thing when I read that. That essentially would be "Value" Either way, I'm glad they got it right and picked the Made in CO bike. Even if I'm having a hard time figuring out what "distinctive profile" means.
  • 5 2
 Last I checked the word "value" has nearly a dozen meanings.
  • 25 18
 Carbon "Made in Colorado" is not product value. It's cool and all but in the end it's a nice luxury for people who can afford to care for such things.
  • 44 6
 "Guerrilla Gravity's Trail Pistol takes the win because it offers a customizable, elite-level chassis priced almost a thousand dollars below the most well respected brands."

Value doesn't necessarily mean cheapest. Reasonably priced top quality carbon that could change the industry vs the best bike that costs the least and they picked the former. Plus who cares, these awards don't mean anything.
  • 3 1
 How many water bottles can the Ripmo AF fit?
  • 2 1
 Im also wondering if "bang" just means "most travel", or "most bike?" I agree, this is super unclear. Both great bikes though.
  • 6 1

Couldnt agree more. Who cares. Im not going to buy a bike based purely on BS award.

This is just a guess but my thought is that for those of us on a budget we are going to use a "hook up" if its available or get last seasons at a discount.

That being said, I read almost every bike review and enjoy the varying perspectives.

Great work!

P.S. i think i bought my slash after it won bike of the year. Cant really remember though, ive been kinda drunk lately
  • 3 1
 Seems like the value is meant by a resell price drop or I'm also not getting it
  • 14 13
 Also: unlike the Ripmo, the GG doesn't look like balls!
  • 12 8
 Guerrilla Gravity's Trail Pistol is carbon frame made in CO for $2200 vs the Ibis Ripmo AF is alloy made somewhere's over sea for $1800. PB made the correct choice if comparing those 2. That said Marin might have the beat bang for buck currently
  • 10 2
 The fact that you can essentially get another bike for the price of a second shock and linkage puts this one over the top for me. Haters gonna hate, though.
  • 6 3
 Take in consideration that this bike is made in Denver Colorado USA!! If you have never been to Denver, well everything is expensive af. I actually couldn’t agree more with PB decision.
  • 7 0
 @artistformlyknowasdan: That price on the GG is without the shock though.
  • 3 1
 @mrti: Is looking like balls a good thing or a bad thing? Either way, I would guess its some kind of microaggression these days. And micro is not targeted at the size of said balls... which would also be a microaggression.
  • 3 4
 @artistformlyknowasdan: both are made overseas as far as I'm concerned
  • 6 1
 Maybe if they had considered the "Ripmo" rather than the "Rimpmo".

"I'm sorry, the answer is Moops."
  • 7 2
 Seems a wierd choice. NX AF appears to be about $800 less than NX GG, and you get DVO instead of bottom-of-the-barrel rock shox.
Like other people have said, I voted with my wallet. Whatever floats yer boat. The industry needs volunteers to buy carbon bikes for inflated prices and flip them a year later for half what they paid in order to buy the next year's latest inflated carbon. When that cycle gets old, bikes like the AF start to make a lot of sense.... But that never gets or for bike websites so their perception is skewed from normal people.
  • 6 1
 @lalientoxc: Whether it's made in CO, Taiwan, or Siberia should make zero difference on the end value of the bike. The value of a bike is how much is paid for the quality that you get. You can get good or crappy bikes made in the US or in Taiwan.
  • 1 2
 @5poundplumbbob: "We don't want to say it's ugly, but..."
  • 1 0
 Click here for information about the judging and selection criteria for Pinkbike's Year-End Awards
  • 46 3
 Huge congrats to GG, they deserve all the attention they are getting. The small group of guys that make up this company are all riders, they care about customer service, and they'll go to great lengths to build you a bike that you'll truly enjoy. Even if what they are building is not for you, what they stand for and mean to the bike industry might be worth getting behind. Besides, who doesn't like an underdog story?
  • 7 0
 Couldn't agree more. Truly doing some revolutionary stuff. Bout time they get the press they deserve. For anyone who is ever in Denver, just stop by the shop. You'll see git, grind and passion.. oh and killer bikes being made. Can't do that in Taiwan, can ya? If you go up to Golden, you'll just see Made In Taiwan shipping containers....
  • 2 0
 Agreed - value isn't necessarily found only in dollars and cents. GG's customer service is truly top notch and sold me even before the Revved frames were launched.
  • 3 1
 @rbbrandon23: while I fully understand what you’re saying, I also take a smidge of offense at that comment. Smile (but not really. punchline: www.feldybikes.com )
  • 1 0
 @feldybikes: ha! Thanks for understanding. I think you know where my punchline ends..
  • 32 7
 Since when does "Full Carbon" have welds?
  • 13 0
 Thats where they weld the carbon together....

Dont you know anything?

  • 2 2
 it doesn't say full carbon - just that it has a carbon front triangle
  • 4 0
 @Theo-F: They've edited the article; it originally said "Full carbon, made in Colorado..."
  • 2 0
 Full carbon is perhaps coming soon. They posted a teaser shot on Facebook about something new for 2020 and this article mentions the "new 2020 carbon Trail Pistol".
  • 1 0
 Wonder if Pinkbike let it out a bit early...
  • 31 16
 Good value for me is how much bike you get for your money, for example to get people into the sport without having to spend a fortune and still getting a decent bike. A 5k+ bike winning this category is just laughable.

Also I fail to see how „made in Colorado“ adds anything to the value of the bike.
  • 19 1
 300+ hp car that corners well for under 50k is a great value. I wouldn't recommend it as introduction to driving.
Value and budget are not the same thing.
  • 24 13
 @Upduro: You fail to see any value in having a bike made in America by free citizens in safe conditions vs having a bike made in a Chinese slave factory?

A true nihilistic German you are.
  • 11 3
 @62mphEbike: that's why I ride a Commencal myself. I'm not gonna go down the rabbithole of working conditions in China, but as another "nihilistic German" said in a comment further up that also got negpropd by angry americans, "t's cool and all but in the end it's a nice luxury for people who can afford to care for such things."

Also "value" itself is highly subjective, which is why this comment section is such a dumpster fire.
  • 5 0
 @62mphEbike: China is not Taiwan (where almost all frames are made).

Yes I would support a small company from my Country but not because of the labour conditions (that means that I shouldnt buy anything made in China- good luck with that).
  • 6 6

Way to excuse yourself from any conscious buying decisions.

A true nihilistic German you are.
  • 4 1

To say nothing of the laughable environmental "restrictions" for Taiwan or any other Asian country. As someone who works in the industrial waste treatment world, they don't do phuck all.
  • 4 0
 You can get this bike for around $3200 with NX Eagle. Same frame. That’s value. The $5200 build comes with $2500 msrp ish carbon rims...
  • 5 1
 @devasolomon22: or, for the same price, you can get an YT Jeffsy CF Comp, which will have XT drivetrain instead of NX Eagle, Fox 34 Performance Elite instead of RS Revelation etc. Now *that's* value.
  • 2 0
 @devasolomon22: No you can't The NX Eagle build starts at $4K.
  • 18 1
 >Full carbon

From the Trail Pistol page on the GG website: "Frame material: Revved Carbon Technology with 6061 aluminum rear triangle". Sounds like half carbon to me.
  • 18 4
 Not dinging GG for this, because they allow you to customize (which is cool)... But PinkBike is being quite literal by posting "The frame only is priced at $2,195, which isn't far off from the price of an aluminum frame from many other companies."

Literally, the frame only, is priced at $2,195. The shock is an additional $300-1100. Again - cool that you can choose from 6 shocks to purchase with your frame. But the way that PinkBike words it is quite misleading.
  • 7 0
 I see this repeated in nearly every article, blurb or discussion. Add a decent shock to the frame and you're just a little below the competition with a full carbon frame. Not trying to diminish what GG has done here, but it seems a little disingenuous.
  • 3 2
 You can get a full carbon intense frames for that
  • 8 2
 @freeridejerk888: yeah, intense always has cracking deals
  • 5 0
 @freeridejerk888: but is it revved?
  • 7 3
 @trailtaco: Most of the hype about GG seems to be driven by the " 'murica, f*ck yeah!" mindset, rather than by facts.
Looking at it objectively, they offer a half carbon bike that weights the same as aluminium and costs a bit more than a carbon YT or Canyon.
Which is not bad, but nothing mind-blowing either.
  • 7 0
 @Ttimer: However, GG's do ride really well. And GG is a great, customer-centric company with a cool vibe
  • 6 1
 @Ttimer: Looking at it objectively, our industry-leading Revved Carbon Technology is stronger, more impact resistant, and longer lasting (higher fatigue life) than aluminum frames at roughly the same price. Trust us, we made aluminum frames for years and the new bikes are better in every single way.

You can read more about our new carbon fiber process below:
  • 6 1
I have tried many times to check out your "revved carbon". But each time I only find marketing bs that tells me nothing about the actual material. I'm certainly not saying your tech is not legit, it just seems to me that you have some smart folks working with an interesting material but are hiding all the actual info to protect trade secrets. I guess that's fine, but it really sucks to get stoked on something just to get a steaming heap of marketing. Those graphs are truly woeful.

I'm guessing that you are using some fancy thermoplastic composite, that would be pretty neat.

Also, can we just stop saying that things are "carbon". They are carbon FIBRE reinforced composites (or polymers if you prefer). It's painful enough seeing and hearing "alloy" used for aluminium alloys.

beer tastes good
  • 17 3
 Is a US made carbon frame still that much better than an Asian made carbon frame?
  • 8 20
flag Powderface (Dec 19, 2019 at 14:08) (Below Threshold)
  • 13 5
 Has it ever been? GG managed to close the gap by a bit. The current pinnacles of carbon tech in bike frames are all made in Asia.
  • 10 9
 @Ttimer: Barcelona...
  • 12 3
 Most Carbon frames rarely come from the US, but this frame is made differently. It's made from a stronger resin and has better impact resistance. The process to make it also requires much less time and manpower to make, which is why it's a cheaper price.
  • 5 0
 Here is the info about their process: ridegg.com/revved
  • 14 2
 If by better you mean orders of magnitude better (i.e. its using a completely different construction process that has their Asian counterparts going "oh phuck" ) and yet constrained by real environmental regulations (unlike their Asian counterparts), then yes, I'd say it's a better product. Put it this way, if the Asian competitors could do it like GG (which would cut out a lot of hand labor), they would. It's a vastly superior manufacturing process and product IMO, and only savagely stupid people think all carbon is the same.
  • 6 5
 @jackalope: Doesn't change the fact that the full on Worldcup-DH Gambler frame is lighter than the frame of this 120mm trailbike. And if not for the weight savings there is hardly any reason to use carbon over metal in the first place.
  • 7 2
 @Ttimer: and those gamblers break in half. So, there’s that..,
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: oh my yesss. So much want for that pink and raw unno
  • 13 3
 Cheers @rideGG!
Stepping up the game of Future proofing your next new bike. 2020 vision.
  • 9 2
 PB, can you please ALSO do a budget bike of the year award so the Ripmo fanboi's can have something to be happy about?? Smile
And let's be honest, it does seem like a great buy...

GG IS a Great Value, you get an awesome bike at very competitive pricing, with lots of customization and best of all you don't end up with cheap looking and sometimes low performing "in house" parts that you turn around and pay more money to replace after you just paid for a new bike...

GG bikes are made to order individually to meet a specific customers needs, so there is not a great opportunity to sell something at 3000 VS Ibis can buy in bulk based on prior years sales, dealer orders and has a higher sales volume to work with to get down to a lower price point.

ALSO, aesthetically I think the GG frames are way nicer than Ibis of late. The HD5 is pretty nice, but the curves and decending tapers and overly swooped tubes of most of thier new frames just doesn't do it for me, especially the smaller frames. ( One of the few times XL frames are better looking!) The AF is a little better than the Carbon Ripmo, and the new Ripley a little better than that. And I'm not saying I wouldn't ride or buy one because if looks. I really liked the demos I did on the Ripmo, nearly bought one a couple times. Great bike! Just that i've heard several comments about the GG looks and I don't agree...
  • 6 0
 Big props to GG!! I've been a brand ambassador (whatever that means) for them for >5 years and its been great to see their popularity and esteem rising! They're a great crew down there in Denver and honestly deserve the recognition and accolades.
  • 10 2
 Radon swoop 10.0: am i a joke to you?

  • 2 0
 I got the 2019 base model with a Lyrik RC, SLX transmission and some nice finishing kit for well under the price of this winning bike frame only. It has great geometry, it's light and it rides very, very well. PB did review the 650 Swoop and loved it, so perhaps they'll pick up on the 29er this year.
  • 1 4
 @chakaping: not for sale in US and Canada, so most wont care.
  • 3 0
 @spaztwelve: well eu has a massive market too
  • 1 2
 @Noeserd: the audience of Pinkbike though....
  • 12 3
 Congrats GG! What an amazing looking bike
  • 15 10
 I struggle to understand this decision. You can get equivalent bikes for much less from the big players (Giant/Trek/Specialized) but in Aluminum. Can you really call the carbon a value-add since the bike still weighs more than these competitors? You can also find better spec'ed carbon bikes for less (Eg: Jeffsy). I like the GG but made in CO and being carbon doesnt equal value for me.
  • 5 4
 I was thinking the same thing. The highest spec’d Capra with full XTR and full Fox with a carbon frame is cheaper than their top model TP.
  • 7 2
 GG fanboi here! Stoked to see this! It’s a tough one to choose the GG against the ibis but the comparison of “value” in the MTB market has drastically changed over the last few years. Think what a pile of mediocrity you would have received if you spent under $4k a few years ago.....you would’ve been lucky for to be 1x for under $3k. We are pretty spoiled right now. I built my GG with handpicked parts (reasonable parts) for under $5k. I don’t know anywhere else I could get that... stoked on the reviews, stoked on GG and stoked to be part of MTB during this era!
  • 5 0
 Ordered my trail pistol a little while back before the field test contestants were announced. It should be arriving here in a few weeks. Their customer service is top notch, they have worked with me to make specific upgrades for my terrain and riding style. Nothing but good things to say about this company and the people who work there, and obviously they’re making killer bikes. Stoked to see them getting recognition!
  • 13 8
 At this price point, it doesn't matter whether you get carbon or aluminium. Ripmo all the way! Keep killing it Ibis.
  • 14 9
 Haters gonna hate, ainters gonna aint! GG makes the raddest bikes on the market!
  • 5 0
 Honorable mention. Any carbon super bike from last season on PB's buy and sell.
  • 2 0
 I bought one of the first Trail Pistols, back when they were made purely from aluminium - thats al-you-min-ee-um over the pond :-) and it's been the most awesome bike i've owned GG were at the forefront of progressive geometry, to which some manufacturers are only starting to catch up in their 2020 models.
The geometry, sizing and alloy construction meant the bike fitted me at 6'5" and 240ibs, alhtough a bit more reach would've made the bike perfect. I would have considered buying another, in the 130 Pistola setup, but the move to carbon has dissuaded me, as it's not a material suited to big riders. All the same, good to see the chaps and chapesses at GG continuing to be a success.
  • 3 0
 If you were stoked on your older Trail Pistol, you'll dig the newer ones. The Revved Carbon that we use on our bikes is at the bleeding-edge of carbon technology, with the new bikes far exceeding the strength, impact-resistance, and fatigue life of our older alloy bikes. No need to worry about it being a material for big riders.
  • 2 0
 I understand that value is a relative term, and that price is not unreasonable on your side of the Atlantic (is it USD or CAD anyway?)... but I feel it's a bit of a disservice to your lower-income readers not to recognise one of the increasing number of really good bikes available at genuinely low prices.
Or was there also a category for budget bikes?
  • 2 0
 Wow, there sure a a bunch of Kanye's in here. Winning is the same as being nominated, since we know judging is so subjective. If you're that opinionated, why don't you host your own bike awards using your personal metrics that determine a bike's value.
  • 4 0
 Hi. Nukeproof Mega 290 elite carbon, full SLX, fox DPX2, E1900 wheels, 36 performance fork. Moar value.
  • 2 1
 I don't see why 'made in Colorado' would be a plus for me. Still overseas for me. And even for pinkbike it's not in their country. Made to somewhat decent environmental and labour standards is a plus of course. But that can be done in other places too.
  • 3 0
 You're right in that can be done according to legit labor and environmental practices in other places, but the problem is that its not (especially on the environmental side of things). And there's also the issue of transporting a frame across the world to get it to market, which is avoided for those customers in North America. That said, I can only proselytize but so much, as many of the components I run and the clothes I wear are from overseas.
  • 13 10
 So, have you ever heard of Radon and Canyon? Or you got paid enough to forget about them?
  • 3 2
 Don't forget cube
  • 9 8
 Radon, Cube, Canyon... nobody cares about Opel, Peugeot and Hyundai. However Chevrolet aka Daewoo ekhem... khem...
  • 1 2
 Nobody needs to be paid to forget something’s
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: and what's making GG not Fiat? this brand means absolutely nothing to most people
  • 1 0
 @f00bar: I called it Chevrolet already... don’t you have any mercy?
  • 1 0
 I agree, I think those are good european brands. Relative to the brands Pinkbike did review, they are largely not present in the north american market, or much less so. enduro-mtb.com frequently reviews brands like these with a greater presence in europe. I'd throw Rose in there as well.
  • 4 1
 Are these available in the UK without huge import taxes or shipping fees?
  • 2 0
 No distributor that I can see but they ship to the UK, by my admittedly shady maths you would pay about £2430 total (£1950 for the frame and shock, £390 in VAT, £90 shipping). So it would be relatively good value for a carbon frame, a Hightower Carbon is £3300, but it's still not cheap. I'm sticking with all metal...
  • 1 2
 Shorelines UK was the EU distributor last year- but I dont know if he still sells them.

Youll need to add aprox. 10% for shipping and on top of that 20% because of VAT- and about 3% import tax.

The price will be the same as an Santa Cruz CC frame (on sale)- but youll get the alu chainstains and not full carbon.

And if something goes wrong you wont have a near shop to fix it or send replacement parts sadly.
  • 7 0
 Pedals Bike Care in Edinburgh has just received a demo fleet and is able to bring them into the UK. Check'em out!
  • 3 0
 Yes us! As GG posted below, our Smash and Megatrail demo frames have just arrived, and the first shipment of stock is scheduled for Jan. Can be in just after we re-open I think. Frames Inc DPX2 are £2749, Inc MRP Hazzard £2849.

Pretty nice value even after the import duties and they look great! Will post some links after I get into the shop. ????
  • 2 0
 @NotNamed: We are holding stock of frames here in the UK ready to ship out anywhere UK or EU (for now) and will have stock of spare and replacement parts too. We don't currently have any options that cheap as it looks like that would be based around the RS Delux, and as my main job is servicing suspension we didn't order any ????

They are 'fine' but lack availability of key service parts, like any RS product. And we hate that. The shorter travel GG frames like the Trail Pistol we are doing with Cane Creek IL Air or Coil, est RRP is £2550. With a shock that's fully adjustable and really good.
  • 3 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: that will be us then! Check out my ramblings about GG here - pedalsbikecare.co.uk/welcome-guerrilla-gravity-to-the-uk

You are actually pretty bang on with the calcs except currently our shipping is a bit higher (then we have to ship it to you!) and there are pretty drastic fluctuations in our currency at the moment. A frame Inc RS Delux would indeed be about £2500, but we decided not to get any. Instead we are making people fork out an extra £50 for a fully six way adjustable CC IL ???? Much better shocks, and a great fit for these frames.
  • 1 0
 @James-at-Pedals: Well that's me told then. That looks like a good deal with the CC shock instead of the RS.
  • 5 3
 Apparently my wallet thought the Ripmo AF was a better value when I bought it.
  • 3 0
 Plus, it looks great in the back of a cybertruck
  • 1 2
 I'd argue that these 6 bikes provide better "value" for the average Pinkbike rider...
YT Jeffsy: starts at $2699
Santa Cruz Hightower (aluminum): starts at $2899
Ripmo AF: starts at $2999
Fezzari Cascade Peak: starts at $2999
GT Sensor (carbon): starts at $3250
Fezzari La Sal Peak: starts at $3599
  • 2 1
 Hey PB, this isn't a full carbon frame. Carbon Front Triangle is still cool though.
  • 5 5
 Pinkbike reviewers were complaining about how heavy the GG was, how esthetically unpleasing it was, how expensive it was, and now it's the best value of the year.
  • 4 3
 It's a pound heavier than the $2500 more expensive Santa Cruz. I'm not sure who or where anyone was complaining about how expensive it is, because it was BY FAR the least expensive bike in the "downcountry" category.

I have a size 3 "revved" Trail Pistola (set up with a 130mm rear shock and 140mm MRP Ribbon Air) and it weighs 29 lbs. Sure, it's a pound heavier than my previously-owned Ibis Ripley V4, but it's also more capable and it's right in line with the weight of any comparable bike on the market.
  • 14 13
 Ripmo AF....gg is so ugly
  • 6 4
 But.. But.. Ripmo AF.
  • 5 0
 Did Pinkbike post a review for the Ripmo AF yet?
  • 1 1
 For what it’s worth: In my humble but correct opinion, Sprindex got robbed!
  • 1 0
 Sorry correct comment, wrong article. Hey it’s late ok.
  • 2 3
 GG sends a bike, they win an award. The other three nominees don't send a bike, they lose. Stupid criteria for winning pink bike award: send them a bike.
  • 4 2
 Ibis got robbed
  • 3 1
 "value"?... really?
  • 1 0
 Rid Egg Congrats MTG.
  • 2 2
 The GG fanboys are almost as bad as Elon’s army.
  • 3 0
 Amazing what good customer service will get ya (from the biking standpoint - no experience with Tesla)
  • 3 0
 @mattr: yup the customer service puts them over the top
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