Lapierre Parts Ways With Pure Agency

Nov 26, 2015
by Pinkbike Staff  
Looks like World Champion Loic Bruni and the rest of Team Gravity Republic will not be riding Lapierre Bikes next season.

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Loic having a bit of fun during a photoshoot for ONE Industries in France.

Statement from Lapierre Gravity Republic Facebook page:

"After 8 years of partnership, 2016 will mark the end of the journey shared by Lapierre & Pure Agency, who managed Team Lapierre Gravity Republic. Both partners are launching new challenges for the next season, after climbing to the top of the world in 2015."

In the paddocks, the continuous progression of Team Lapierre Gravity Republic since the very beginning has not passed unnoticed. Crowned best UCI Gravity team in 2014 with Loic Bruni, Loris Vergier, Sam Blenkinsop and Emmeline Ragot; the team claimed the ultimate title in 2015: the Elite Men’s World Championship jersey, to draw the curtains on an amazing adventure. In total: 4 overall World Cup victories, 3 World Championship titles and dozens of podiums… What a way to end!

Gilles Lapierre, MD of Cycles Lapierre, reflects on this achievement: « It has been an incredible adventure at the side of talented riders and renowned staff. We can’t forget that we started from scratch! Over the years we have battled with the best MTB teams in the world. Loic Bruni’s title of World Champion has been the grand finale of this adventure, we couldn’t have hoped for better. It’s now time to move on.

Despite all the tough luck Loic was still all smiles when he received the trophy for 2nd overall in the Word Cup.

The end of DH sponsoring does not mean the end of Team Lapierre Gravity Republic as we are staying very active in Enduro, which continues to develop with the Enduro World Series. Nicolas Vouilloz, who we don’t need to present, & Adrien Dailly, winner of the EWS U21 in 2015 will have new teammates for 2016 … You’ll be hearing more about this soon. We are therefore staying committed to MTB competition. We are also supporting the development of ebike competition, which is undergoing massive expansion, and for which our Overvolts are already a reference. Many new challenges lie ahead of us once again!

An incredible showpiece for Lapierre’s savoir-faire, the Team help develop their MTBs to benefit from the cutting edge technology. Our latest DH model, launched in 2014, won its first race at the Fort William round of the World Cup with Emmeline Ragot. Loris Vergier then became Junior World Champion on this machine a few months later. He was followed by Loic Bruni using it to take the ultimate title in septembre 2015 à Vallnord. The final proof, if it was needed, that this collaboration functioned in the best possible manner.

Loic takes a lap of the finish arena following another top performance in Italy.

Laurent Delorme, Manager of Pure Agency, looks back on the years of partnership: « Working with Lapierre for 8 years was an amazing adventure. Gilles Lapierre, the teams at his side and all the company were a reliable and efficient support, right from the start. With a strategy of developing young talents, we have pulled the performances of our riders to the highest level, thanks to the technological innovations responding to the needs of competition. Gilles, particularly involved in this project, both when we were victorious and in the hard times, always knew how to drive our performances. We are proud to have grown with Lapierre.

Thank you to all our partners who have followed Team Lapierre Gravity Republic during these eight years"


So where to next?


MENTIONS: @Lapierre-Bikes / @SramMedia / @ride100percent / @LizardSkins




336 Comments

  • + 356
 stopped reading when I saw they are looking to develop e bike competition
  • + 286
 Seriously. . No D.H. but they are going to support e bikes.. Totally lost my respect.
  • + 14
 I know, right?
  • + 42
 A company wants to make money and Lapierre does not sell a lot of DH bikes, but the E-Bike is a growing market in Europe and is more profitable.
  • + 199
 Yea it's hard to read and throw up at the same time.
  • - 30
flag schofell84 (Nov 26, 2015 at 6:33) (Below Threshold)
 Europe is more lame now as well I see. This single press release just levied the odds of me ever buying their product to zero.
  • + 101
 Anyone who makes or buys and e mountain bike should be skinned alive and buried in salt..
  • + 20
 More fatman in the sports means more market revenue.
  • + 28
 That ebike thing is just smoke and mirrors, the negotiation between Lapierre and Gravity Republic must've been nasty. I can imagine LP having no budget for DH after 8 years of contract and GR at the height of its powers capable to ask for any amount of cash they desire for a new contract. GR is going to team up with one of the big brands.
  • + 16
 Idea: have fat man pedal up hills, then we have more skinnyman market revenue.

This coming from a tubby beerbellied old fart.
  • + 12
 ebike are one thing that I consider can be attractive and useful to some . ebike competition though is just ... I really tried to find one , but it doesn't make sense
  • + 49
 e bike competition? I just checked my calendar and it's November 26, not April 1
  • + 16
 When faced with a climb or challenging terrain...... proceed to fly the white flag of the E-bike
  • + 36
 That's not a beer belly my flatulent friend, it's a fuel tank.
  • + 34
 What the hell is ebike competition?
  • + 17
 I can see evokes being useful for some people, mainly comments and people who use their bike as a form of transport, as it allows someone to cover longer distances and assists on climbs etc.

But if you are into riding bikes for the sport if it, as most of us are, why the f*** would anyone want one of these? Isn't the whole point of riding bikes for the challenge? The exercise? Being able to push ones limits?

To me an ebike runs contrary to all these things. It runs contrary to all the reasons I would throw my leg over a bike in the first place.
  • + 9
 couldn't agree more , I see here ( in holland ) almost EVERYONE going to work,supermarket, school, ... with bike but also ebike for older or weaker people and its amazing ! But ebike competition is so wrong ! so wrong that no one ever heard about it ... they just came up with something to sell "race oriented " ebike...
  • + 2
 No DH but will be supporting Benduro??

WTF?
  • + 2
 @inukshuk Of course they don't sell a lot of downhill bikes when they are sized for midgets. Extra small, and small, if they care to make more than one size.
  • + 34
 Alright guys, time to stop hating enduro and save up your rage for el-duro.
  • + 26
 Let's see if you still have the same opinion if you're unlucky enough to lose a leg or get a debilitating lung disease! Plenty of people have a good reason for buying an e-bike, its not always because they're a fat lazy tosser.
  • - 17
flag RedBurn (Nov 26, 2015 at 8:45) (Below Threshold)
 HA!!!!!! gayyy
  • + 15
 Funny that the french article is quite the same, same paragraphes, same quotes and everything, but they don't talk about "e-bike competition", just e-bikes... I don't know hwo translated that, and I don't know either if the french one was the original, just sayin'...
  • + 3
 Some enduro competitions like the French Enduro series or the Transvésubienne already have a classification for e-mtb. Guys like Nico Vouilloz and Aurélien Giordanengo have already participated in this type of event
  • + 38
 Ah merde
  • + 18
 @schofell84
1. The views of ONE European company does not reflect the views of an assembly of countries. Get real.
2. Most big American bikes Co's are also getting in the E-bike game one after another, whether you like it or not.
3. They will have their place, not necessarily on our favorite trails, but elsewhere, even just as a transportation means. I would definitely choose that over a stupid big SUV or even an hybrid vehicle. Cheers.
  • + 7
 No sanctioned e-bike racing going on in the states that I'm aware of. I still can't comprehend how they're called bikes. In the early-mid 1900's they were called scooters and mopeds ..
  • + 8
 @schofell84 E-bike race planned for Sea Otter this year....
  • + 2
 My LBS sells Lapierre. Last time I was in there the salesman was pushing the ebikes hard.
  • + 1
 Schofell84 since you are calling yourself an old fart I sure as hell hope you were not born in 84. 31 is not old!
  • + 2
 Hasn't finn been practicing to race world cups for them? And now all of sudden when its his year to finally race, they drop the team? ouch.
  • + 26
 e-bikes are motorcycles, everything that is not driven by human propulsion is far from cycling.
  • - 2
 Down voted for stating a fact... Good ole pinkbike.
  • - 1
 Does anyone even care about lapierre anymore anyway?
  • - 21
flag Benito-Camelas (Nov 26, 2015 at 11:28) (Below Threshold)
 A DH bike is basically driven by two nonhuman powers: gravity and gas engines, so I guess is way far from mtbiking.

In fact, a DH bike uses more e-devices than an e-bike, so I guess dh riders should be skinned alive twice and doubly buried in salt.
  • + 37
 I thought DH bike is driven either by combustion engine from a shuttle truck/bus or by electric engine from the lift - No? Get real FFS...

www.pinkbike.com/photo/11870586
  • + 0
 well, I'm not all about e-bikes, but how many people pedal up their DH bikes? ffs some transfer sections on endurbro are on trucks or lifts. if instead of getting lifted you where able to ride it without giving a pedal wouldn't that be awesome?
  • - 1
 Did the same thing..WTF is up with that?
  • + 3
 Ditto Waki... if you have ever uplifted in a van or ridden a ski lifts with your bike you have no right to hate on ebikes. Double standard dudes.
  • + 1
 eBike racing will take off in time, niche markets can explode...enduro
  • + 7
 I'm a fat lazy biker and have been for many years. I clock about 1500 to 2000 self propelled miles a year with an average 30 mile ride having 2000ft of elevation. Those climbs absolutely destroy me, and I am thoroughly looking forward to the day when I get an electric assisted bike just to take the edge of those climbs and let my arthritic nerve damaged legs have it a little bit easier. It's not all about the challenge, sometimes it's about the fun.
  • + 1
 I don't know about you guys, but I've never shuttled up any bike trails, they were either on roads for trucks or on a chair lift.

Do you not comprehend what kind of damage a motorcycle can do to trails? Would you get pissed if I took a kids 50cc dirtbike on bike trails? Because they aren't a hell of a lot different.
  • - 1
 I practice enduro with Scott Voltage FR, I have no problem. There are too vague and too many excuses, that's the problem.
  • + 1
 You practice a timed stage race format? How pray tell do you emulate the staging?
  • + 2
 Maybey if your old fat slob you should get into shape... if your injured I have no problem with somebody riding an E bike of course
  • + 4
 I like electricity, I´m very hooked on electricity, I mean, I have broken syringes and crushed e-pill bottles scattered on my room's floor, snort straws on my night stand, and to get rid of the withdrawal I put my wet fingers into sockets for electric shots....................... so I love electric bicycles.

Why so much hatred? please...... respect
  • + 2
 Dh bikes are mostly ridden on their own specific trails within their own facilities l. The fact that they don't have a motor keeps them off of multi use multi directional trails. It isn't about what's more green or Eco. Most people that speak out against e bikes just want multi use trails to remain safe. I think e bikes can broaden the scope of the bike industry, but clear guidelines need to be devloped. So how about developing a place to ride them instead of races.
  • + 13
 Waki, SchredLikeTrah, JoseBravo, EnduroFactory, et all... hit the nail on the head... First and foremost, a pedal assist E-Bike (like the one Nico is riding from Lapierre) is nothing like a motto/dirt bike and I'm speaking from a long history (20+ yrs) of experience of riding mountain bike, motto bike, and now E-bike. They don't pollute or disrupt the environment any different from a mountain bike. In fact, the tires are the exact same tires on an E-bike as it is on my mountain bikes and the weight is the same as the older 90's downhill bikes. Also, on a pedal assist E-bike you are not able burn rubber or spin your tires like a motorcycle can so, how could they damage the trails anymore? Disrespectful humans usages are the key factor of damaging trails plain and simple. It is so damn sad to hear all these supposed hardcore mountain bikers talk about riding the good old fashion way but If you folks who have so much negative opinions then stop using the chair lift assistance or shuttle services to ride DH. Ride your ass up then bomb down like the old skool riders had to do plain and simple.

We as a community should be supporting all things cycling (road, dirt, commute, electric, etc...) and it all comes down to RESPECT out on the road or trails. We as cyclist/bikers have had to battle this issue with automobiles, horse riders, and hikers from the beginning of time and the only way we were able to utilize the roads or the same trail networks is to respect the other users. If you are riding a pedal assist Ebike out on the trails be respectful of the environment and other fellow trail users as you should regardless of your bike.

Now, here is where the line becomes blurred, if you are riding a HIGH powered THROTTLE based Ebike, then go to your local motocross facilities and enjoy. The petro/gas powered gear-heads will give you shit there but get over it and ride whatever gets you out to ride. Just respect the trails and those using it as always.
  • + 8
 this is an e-bike....


www.ktmfreeride-e.com/en


somebody needs to show up at these up-coming e-bike races in sea otter and europe with one of these bad boys and just school the tools.
  • - 2
 nevermind, this looks pretty cool, top google result for "e bike races" www.electricbike.com/electric-bike-racing
  • + 4
 Hopefully Linda can deal with ebikes once she is finished with ISIS.
  • + 4
 Mixed emotions with ebikes. Let us not forget that an ebike could give legendary riders such as Martyn Ashton back what they deserve. Food for thought. However, if your only getting an ebike to cheat the need to stay fit then why bike?
  • + 8
 eBikes are terrible. If you can't do it on your own steam, don't cheat. eBikes allow fat, inexperienced riders to access trails that require right of passage - endangering themselves and those around them. For example, here in Bay Area I see eBike chumps going up steep DH-only trails because they don't know better. Prob the most dangerous scenario I can think of. Commuting maybe. But on trails, they should ride with mx.
  • + 4
 Lol, let's say that a mountain bike loses most of his leg function in a car accident or even while mountain biking. After not being able to ride for months due to a difficult recovery, he buys an e-bike. Imagine if, on his first ride after this injury, you tell him he should be "skinned Alive and buried in Salt". That would be a fun conversation.
  • + 4
 Yes it would be. Seriously though. These bikes are not going to be marketed to people with disabilities. Rich out of shape lazy douchbags will be the ones who will end up with these on our trails.
  • + 2
 WTF! DID I JUST READ
  • - 2
 So much hate for ebikes!! No one is forcing you to use them so just keeping riding your own bikes and chill the funk out!!
I have an ebike on order and can't wait for it to turn up to allow me to get out on the trails and have fun something apparently I shouldn't be allowed to do?
Instead of venting negativity at something that doesn't relate to you try swapping and putting positivity into something that does.
  • + 1
 I am still on the fence about them. Personally I don't want to ride one as as I would rather ride or push or shuttle up hill and will do so as long as my body allows me to. Maybe when I am in my 70s I may be tempted.
  • + 0
 I think all the nay Sayers are also missing out on a massive trick,how many of you have to do shorter falter rides when riding with your gf/bf/wife/husband/lover etc? If I was still riding then I'd 100% be looking at getting my girl an ebike so she could come along on all day epics without the "my legs are tired", "how much further is it". Try seeing the positives, they are great way to spending longer doing the thing you love with people who aren't at the same fitness level as you.
  • + 1
 Come on waki you know that anywhere on the Internet that allows comments is perfect place to witness the Dunning–Kruger effect.
  • + 0
 Spot on Shakeyakey... Awesome read Waki...
  • + 1
 I can't believe LaPierre prefered e-bikes over fat bikes, when clearly fat bikes are the future of mountain biking
  • + 0
 All we need now is to hear Donald trumps view on e bikes and we should have a nice rounded debate!! In a world that seem to audibly deplore intolerance and bigotry, I seriously can't believe some of the things I am reading here about e bikes.
  • + 2
 So you aren't safely or physically able to pedal uphill, but it requires neither to descend?? This argument is absurd.
  • - 3
 Who cares if unfit people want to get into biking. If starting on a pedal assist gets people into the sport who cares. I can see the massive appeal if you ride in alpine terrain. It massively broadens your riding scope without reliance on lift access.
  • + 7
 It's not about being unfit, its about motorized vehicles being on bicycle trails.
  • + 5
 schofell84 just summed it up perfectly.

no motorized vehicles on bicycle/hiking/horse trails.

too easy.
  • + 2
 Just helped an old man and lady lift their e-bikes over a log on a local trail. So out of place, e-bike cruiser with big-ole kashima coated dh forks. Someone is going to kill themselves on these things. Saw a lady with groceries wobbling down the street on an e-bike @25 mph...almost died on a pot hole. Hope they have e-bike specific trails...not enough room though. So not ready for more of this.
  • + 1
 Don't they know this is the opposite of going green. Bikes without motors are already there. E-bike...just to catch the eye of those who claim to be environmentally conscious, while absolutely clueless about the issues involved with disposing of the things. Such trickery...only reason companies are willing to loose loyal customers to the masses of idiots.
  • - 4
flag vl95 (Nov 27, 2015 at 9:39) (Below Threshold)
 Your comment is useless and for some reasons .. I dont believe you .#hatersgonnahate but try to be constructive
  • + 1
 Useless, ha. Some people barely know how to ride and jump on these things and cruise at 25 mph on trails or streets. Dangerous for some, that's all.
  • - 4
flag randybadger (Nov 27, 2015 at 10:18) (Below Threshold)
 I'm fairly sure they are set to 16mph and the motor cuts out there. Unless they've been modified or US laws are very different or your just making that shit up.
  • + 3
 Again. f*ck eBikes. Not allowed on hike/bike/horse trails. Go ride at the track and get laughed at by MX riders.

Why do people want to end up like those fat people on Wall-e?
  • + 0
 So not making this up. Not sure if there's a limiter or limit. Def some fast ones. I love it when they half pedal making it seem like they're exercising, then stop when no one's looking. Even saw a tag-along attached to the back for a kid once. Some seem to be in a hurry hence the (to fast for them)wobbly riding on unfamiliar ground.
  • - 3
 All nonesense aside, are the American e bikes very different to what I'm thinking of. Are you guys talking about the electric bike you just sit and screw, or are we all talking about the ones that provide roughly 200watts max of pedal assistance (roughly like being croggied by someone reasonably fit) that only apply that power when you are pedalling?
  • - 1
 Don't get me wrong. I am not against e-bikes. They def have a place and will be useful to many. Not sure about this being the reason for the industry to be selling them though. Over here I think the large majority would buy because of 1. no license, 2. cheap transportation. In both cases these are not the type of people I want to share trails and roads with. There's a certain town nearby that has many alcohol (or some other drug) abusers with no license riding bikes with small motors...Not being mean, but many continue to abuse and are still on the roads. This will only get worse with cheap e-bikes being sold at Wal-Mart. Rant over.
  • + 1
 Def talking more about the full electric...not just assisted power.
  • + 1
 The fully motorised one I see are usually owned by old people. The pedal assists are still a fairly rare sight where I am in the uk but I can see the huge benefit. I've ridden for over 20 years and while I'm not the fittest guy my average ride sees me do 20 or 30 mile with 2000 ft of climbs. Some of the better trails around me could constitute a 50 to 60 mile ride with 4000 ft of climbs . Which at my fitness is really means I can only do that in the height of summer on a good day. An pedal assist would give me the ability to keep a steady high pace on the fire roads and help me with the climbs so I could access those longer rides for more of the year. I'm not talking about sitting on a motorbike, just taking the edge of the parts that physically impaire me from the longer rides. I don't see it as a bad thing.
  • + 1
 Pedal assist ebike v's sitting in the middle of a peloton/chain gang - discuss
  • + 2
 I know...sorry.
  • + 0
 @stacykohut careful next it'll be no 4 wheels on 2wheel trails! :/
  • + 3
 Or runner on walking trail
  • + 7
 you think thats funny?
one of, if not the most out of touch comments made in a while.

my fourwheeler has no engine except for my heart, lungs and arms.
i will always be welcome on non motorized trails.

laziness is the disease of the century.
  • + 4
 If you out of shape get in shape, eat healthier. Stop having self pity for your self if your lazy and want an ebike seriously. Unless your old or injured ebikes should not be ridden by old fat lazy beer drinking slobs who troll around pinkbike
  • + 0
 You could also just chill the fuck out and accept all trail users with respect and friendliness
  • + 4
 Sorry but thats not always the answer
  • + 0
 Or you could get angry about something that has absolutely no impact on your everyday life on the fundamental basis that you are uncomfortable with it
  • + 5
 It actually does though because I ride mountain bikes and build trails
  • + 4
 @Stacykohut No offence was meant by my comment as I myself am now a T12 complete paraplegic, I just thought you out of all people would be more understanding as to the opportunities provided by ebikes.
I'm currently building an 'ebike' complete with sitski seat to allow me to get back out riding with my mates and to the trails and places I never thought it possible for me to be able to see again..... Alas sadly according to this message thread a place I won't be welcome and should be banned from riding?!!!

I really wish people would sometimes see further than their own bigoted opinion and try find postives in things rather than constantly championing the negative.... But I guess this is the Internet a place where people will always rather be opinionated than be informed.
  • + 3
 @shakeyakey dood, just ride and don't give a f*ck about what people think.

Those that are hung up on what you ride need to grow up.
  • + 1
 There was a u between the f and ck that got starred out... come on pinkbike im sure no one is going to get offended at what is probably the most useful (and probably used) word in the english language
  • + 0
 You can't enjoy a motorized vehicle on a motor vehicle trail?

Shucks guess I had it all wrong.
  • + 2
 schoffel84 - you obviously haven't ridden a motor assisted mountain bike, like the one LaPierre is making. DH bike has more to do with a Moto than one of those E-enduro bikes. You get power by pedalling, yes pedalling and yes you get tired very quickly, as with a regular bike, you just go faster on the uphill. Full 25kmh! What a staggering speed compared to a guy in FF helmet going down the hill on a bike with 8 inches of travel. All this, people will get hurt is such a bollocks, how can you stand up from the toilet being so full of useless crap. FYI you can't go faster fdown the hill on an e-bike compared to a regular bike, does additional grip come with electric engine? Obstacle eliminating laser?
  • + 2
 Therefore a guy on a e-bike will not be faster down the hill and dare to do more, than if he had a regular bike. Quite the opposite. He'll be wobblying with a heavier engine under him.
  • + 1
 It's not about speed, its about a motorized vehicle destroying trails designed for bicycles.

Also, DH bikes are ridden on one directional DH trails. Wait till you run into some newb with "pedal assist" (AKA a motor) trying to ride up a trail you shouldn't be riding up.

Also, as history will prove: anything with a motor will be made faster and more powerful. Every new motorized vehicle on the face of the earth has some sort of limiter built in and either ten minutes in YouTube or $400 can make them go bye bye. Think that will be any different on eBikes?
  • + 0
 "It's not about speed, its about a motorized vehicle destroying trails designed for bicycles" Yes a mororcross bike will destroy trails but a pedal assisted ebike destroying trails really?? I think we are either talking about very different bikes or you are getting slightly confused?
Nobody is going to be fitting a set of wet screams and 'ragging' and ebike around on your local trails tearing up ruts everywhere! That's left for chavs and beaten up old CR80's.
Poor peddling technique and rubbish braking causes damage to trails and if you want to ban the causes of them then Morzine and most bike parks etc are gonna be pretty damn quiet next season.
  • + 0
 "You can't enjoy a motorized vehicle on a motor vehicle trail?

Shucks guess I had it all wrong."

Of course you can, and if my main hobby was mx then I'd be getting a Hansen rep Kawi with a frame, auto clutch and be smashing out laps at my local track.... But my hobby is mountain biking with my mates, has been for the last 20+ years and hopefully will be for many more. Just because I now require a small electric motor attached to my mountain bike I shouldn't be allowed on the trails with my friends anymore? Seriously?? Give your head a shake lad, somethings not connecting.
  • + 0
 @schofell84 read Steve Jones article on them in Dirt. It may well change your mind. It certainly convinced me not to write them off.
  • + 1
 The thing that really worries me about e bikes is how the anti mountain bike community will use them as an argument to shut down access to trails to all mountainbikes. It has been a real battle to just get some areas here in the states to allow mountainbikes on multiuse trails. The people who have argued against allowing bikers on trails have used the argument that bikes travel frather and faster and cause excessive damage to trails.. Now your going to have bikes with electric motors that allow people to go even farther and faster..
  • + 1
 @BeerGuzlinFool that is a fair point and no doubt ebikes do increase speed, I would note however though that speed is mainly governed by ability. If You had the same power in your legs as Graves the speed you hit trails is still going to be different because of the speed you're comfortable riding at.

A more worrying article that was published in the uk used STRAVA times to try shut down access to trails in a local park area. Basically stating look at the dangerous speeds these mountain bikers are doing and here the proof. They only quoted the fastest speed they could find and then made out that was the speed at which everyone was riding everywhere which is proper sneaky! But it could set a pretty crappy president for the future.
  • + 1
 Everyone can ride what they want. I do believe that they will be mass produced. I just hope that most realize that plain old pedal bikes are more Green friendly and decide against buying one. Battery tech is the next big thing (although it's already big...just wait) so I'm sure bike companies will follow the money. Not hating on those with a need, just worried about where this is heading.
  • + 1
 Trails erosion is caused mainly by volume of users and braking while going down hill. Wet or too dry weather speeds up the process. Therefore maintenance is always necessary, so is maximizing the sustainability of the trail by building it in a special way. All that requires legal action. Now to analyze it top down, High prices of E-bikes are a limiting factor to congestion, they will also never get the status of being a "real cyclist" hence they will never be a big thing, rather niche. Erosion on uphills caused by e-assisted pedalling E-bikes is smaller than compared to regular bikes since going faster gives more grip. Yes they may try to uphill DH trails and Yes it may poss a danger but Joeys slready do it by pushing on foot. There cannot be any more erosion caused by e-bikes on descents. Braking is braking, done wrong or right - erodes the trail. "Green, eco" label does not stick to MTB at all, no sane person has any delusions that batteries suck
  • + 1
 See plenty of people commuting on MTB instead of a car, we have a park running all through our town. Thought biking instead of driving is eco friendly. Hope you're right about the congestion, although there are many options for under 1K available right now. The batteries don't suck. The overuse and unprofitable recycling is what is going to suck. Future battery tech will also have little value to recycle. Less use of precious metals in newer batteries will not favor recycling. Solutions for new modes of mobility like electric bikes are gaining a large acceptance...not sure about it being a niche group.
  • + 3
 @shakeyakey..........

yeah, thats exactly what we are saying dude, you are NOT welcome to ride a motorized vehicle(it does not matter what the power source is) on a bicycle, horse or hiking trails, and for christs sake keep you motor-cycle out of established mtb riding areas and bike parks.

don't be a selfish prick and ruin it for all those mtbers that have been doing this for 30 years plus.


and this has nothing to do with disabilty or age or obesity, its about not facking up the mtb scene.

go ride your ebike on a bmx track, a mx track, a forest service road, go for a commute, go get groceries, go exploring on crown land, go fishing, go anywhere , but stay the hell off mtb trails.

i got a couple friends that rock the ebikes, they are very respectfull towards the established ridng areas, and spend alot of time accessing places i could never go on human power, its cool what they do and i respect it. and in turn they respect what i do, but we will never ever ride together.

you are building a motorcycle, so be prepared to use it in the appropriate riding areas.

oh ya one more thing, just because i have a broken spinal cord, please don't associate me with this shitty ebike movement.


i have stated many times , ebikes have their place, but the bikeparks and dh trails ain't that place.

i hope you project works out and you get to ride you motorcycle, but we will never cross paths because i believe, support and promote human powered vehicles, including bikes, fourwheelers, and skateboards.

fack it,, i'll say it, even rollerblading is cooler that ebikes.
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 I have rollerblades.
  • + 2
 see, you are now cooler than nico vouilloz.


easy huh?
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 "and this has nothing to do with disabilty or age or obesity, its about not facking up the mtb scene."


the other thing i should have mentioned for me, this has nothing to do with the environment or being green, i really could care less about some wacked out, right wing bullshat snow-job, that is environmentalism.

hell, i'm burning a box of endangered species in a styrofoam box in my backyard right now.

this isn't about being green, its about traill access.
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 Guess I'm gonna be a 'selfish prick' then.

youtu.be/XaBOvw4UCMA
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 You guys are so full of shit. I am now completely certain either we are talking about completely different machines. Or you just don't understand the concept. Do you understand that a pedal assist bike will not move unless you actually pedal it, it's not a moped or a motorbike it is something very different. It also appears your trails in the US are very different from the uk. I don't think any one would make much fuss about about seeing a nice pedal assist round our way
  • + 0
 Bikers looking for an assist = ok. Masses of people looking for a different means of transportation = not so sure if I like the idea. I can't believe you'd say someone like @stacykohut is full of shit...plain rude.
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 @shakey........

go for it, have fun riding that ebike on that terrain like martin was doing.........

where was he? down by the boardwalk?
at least he knows were the appropriate ebike riding area is.


he rode down some stairs and did a lil wheelie.
have fun.


actually being full of shit is really on the mark for this conversation, because the engine on my bike is fueled by clean, veggie based foods and some quality whey protein ,and cool refreshing water. the waste product of said engine is exactly the shit you are talking about. good call randybadger.

lol
  • + 0
 Dude you don't ride a bike you basically pilot a go kart down A line! Get over yaself.
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 @randybadger - off course we are all talking about different things. And the same in a way... the very same pattern of behavior that makes a dumber part of "traditional" trail users (read those who write complaints or discriminating policies) from hiking or horse riding circles, dehumanize ALL mountain bikers through the scope of Extreme sport nutter, unable to respect other lives since he is obviously not respecting his own. They are painting an extreme picture of a dude on DH bike going 30MPH and sliding all over the place. They do not see a regular MTBer just riding his bike, enjoying commons of nature just like they are. This sort of psychosis keeps MTBers off many trails all over the world.

Now mountain bikers themselves are dehumanizing e-bike owners, picturing them as a stupid dude on a bike with the most powerful electric engine out there, riding up a hill as if he was on a redneck moto hill climb derby. They see warning signs and feel a perfectly understandable fear, like I do to, but some follow temptation to descend into a posterized black and white world, at best seeing shades of grey - they never see colors. Then they go ahead accusing the imagined group of evil e-heads of all sorts of own treats: poor riding skills, trail erosion, disregard to own safety, following trends etc. I rode one and it was super cool. If my kids will start riding with me, I will fix one to my wife, because she hates the pedaling part of MTBing.

@stacykohut - brace yourself, I have already heard of a super powerful, "hyper-tech", e-assisted prototype four wheeler for park and AM use (from the horses mouth of world's famous high performance recumbent maker). My prediction is that assisted e-bikes will remain as a niche. They will be passionately used by people with disabilities and poor wives forced to ride by their husbands needing to show a riding wife on insta. Since one is not willing to take effort to ride up the hill or ride down the ridge on his own power, he will simply be unwilling to follow his latest "I'm so bored with life" hobby, after the first serious crash. Loss will overtake the wins. Or a dude who liked it a lot will buy a proper motorcycle. So in my view - don't worry, there will be very few of them. You can always cover kids eyes. My problem is... a very realistic scenario where an MTB purist daddy is out there with his kid and e-biker catches up on them on descent, passes them and sends a fat whip off a jump ahead? I saw such scenario two weeks ago... a CX elitist desperately convincing his 10yr old son that our pumptrack is not as cool as CX short track next to it, then being owned on that CX track by one of pumping dudes who decided to take a lap for a change...
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 ah, thats the bomb.

have fun with your 'disabilty' and your ebike.

feel free to run your mouth once you have actually accomplished something with your disabilty, not just planning and talking and blowing smoke.

there is a whole bunch of u.k. paralympic athletes that you and martin couldn't even polish their medals.
how many you got?
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 waki, just to bring you up to speed, there was a customer that converted his fourwheeler to an e fourwheeler almost 10 years ago. try to stay current.
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 I don't think we are going to agree about e bikes. Waki is probably right they are never going to be huge, largely due to the cost.
It just amazes me when in here actual bikers are firing up exactly the same Ill conceived arguments as walkers have been shooting at us since the beginning.
E bikes aren't going to destroy the world or ruin the trails. Anyone rocking a £4000 e assist full Susser has likely been in the game long enough to know what they is doing and I say all power to them. It's a poor day when we can't embrace something new and interesting
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 e bikes will get trails shut down that have been used for years by hikers and horses and human powered mtbs. it is that plain and simple.
  • + 0
 "have fun with your 'disabilty' and your ebike."
Cheers will do
Xx
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 @stacykohut - did he have electronic suspension? I am sorry man, I love the stuff you are saying all over, I had so many great laughs (in a good way) but I listen to you here and you sound like my old preacher talking about perils of pre-marital sex or a Zen master saying that too much love to possessions will ruin your life. You don't know, you cannot know. Mountain bikers affraid of e-bikers ruining their efforts are like wives of wife beaters - first defense reaction - do not do anything that may piss off the man in power. We will get there as a community - don't worry. We'll get the fkrs to respect us. The only difference between us and hikers is that MTB is so young that there are still too few MTBers in town halls. That's it, that's all. I heard of a funny story, where a private forest land owner was pursuing MTBers for making trails on his land. He eased off completely after his son started riding, now the best trails in the area are on his land. For fks sake man, who better than you on PB knows that politics is a delusion? A powerful yet flexible fabric laid on the world? You are worried, so am I, I am all too aware of all you are saying - let's leave it there.
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 ahh one more thing Stacy - he and Martyn just got their presents, you are a pro for years, the people you are referring to are pros since a long time. Give the man a break. You are so into sports and what it takes, and you forgot about 10.000 hours. Send him Tony Robbins DVDs, no wait... Ryan told me to burn them! Ok I tried them and I must say... fk you achievers. FK YOU! You may be burning at 10 000 degrees but Tippie is still living faster. I like him, I like my couch dad too, more than Ayrton Senna Big Grin
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 waki you have no clue about me. i have more respect for hikers and horsemen than i do for you, and you ride a mtb. you were never, nor will you ever be a part of the community i belong to. i am the proud son of a top fuel drag racer. you could never hang. i suggest you get some help, some real help and or medication for your restless mind. must be torture to have to analyzed everything to death. i'd be exhuasted.
  • + 1
 Can we just stop seriously. Like bickering is not going to go any where. What I see a lot is north Americans hating e bikes and Europeans liking them more
  • + 1
 the new world rules. my ancestors left the old world for a reason.
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 Off course I have no clue about you, I also do not have a tiniest will to be the part of the community that you are in, hence I will never respect you, nor your father, nor care about your kids if you have any. I don't respect Sam Hill - I don't give a damn. I don't. Medication and treatment?! Tell me what you are on since it is not working. You are all entertaining, I appreciate that. I'll take a beer or soda with you anytime, so you can talk to me and I can laugh a bit. If I a make you laugh point for me. Do you think there is anyone in the world who deep inside treats all this show in a different way? I enjoy analyzing, I deeply fkng enjoy it, I sht on medals when I can talk to God, you life form. Different things get chemistry going in our brains, are you better because you got a medal, because you got famous? It's not about fame, yes, you did it all for yourself, you may as well have achieved everything alone one Mars, no points of reference needed. Give me a break dude... reevaluate your free will a bit... enjoy the show while heart is beating and don't sht on people who have no influence on your life. Tells me to medicate and he raves about e-bikes... your attitude is nowhere better than attitude of folks having issues with immigrants in Europe, you just orbit around less PC sensitive subject, but you light up same synapses in your brain. I tell you who I respect more than you, a toilet cleaner at my work because the toilet is clean - she affects my life. Everyday. (I still will laugh if you are interviewed again, I like your angle, and the fact that you competed a lot will make me feel that it is worthwhile to listen to you) Respect... now defend your honor!
  • - 1
 i don't drink booze or pop/sugar.

sugar and alcohol are the medication/pacifier of the masses.

drink up buddy.
  • + 0
 I am egocentric about one thing. I think I am better than most people with synthesizing drugs in my own brain, from next to nothing - you probably do not have a tiniest clue how high I am right now after writing this. I feel powerful, super focused. People just don't get that... nobody understands, even my current shrink
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 Sorry bit you sound a bit paranoid..
I see the same phrases that hikers living in my little town uses against MTB.
You destroy trails...
That knobby tiresthat eat ours mother earth....
The mountain is pure only if you are alone and on your feet...

That kind of argument is a delusional one.

I don't like when my MTB cruises in the middle of a big pile of horse poo but it ever crosses my mind that horse owners should get the f@#&k out the trail I am riding.
I don't like to slow down when I know hikers are on the trail I am descending but I do because I respect them and their desire to enjoy the mountain and the countryside.
If a horse owner or a hiker tell me to get out "theirs" trail when i am enjoing my bike I'll get mad and be really pissed off.
So I give and pretend respect on the trail. If I am riding my old clunker, a new super endubro squishy fullcarbon 6inches 650b plus 1*11 whatever or an electric MTB doesn't matter.

(And by the way I think a newbie starting with a electric bike today could be a "real" MTB rider tomotrow, so a potential asset not a potential menace).
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 Nice to hear sense
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 @k1kk0 Horse poo is fine, at least it smells nice and its easy to avoid... (or at least it does to me.) What pisses me off it dog poo and having to scrape it out of your tyres.

@WAKIdesigns @stacykohut - keep slugging guys, this ones going to round 12. On a serious note I think each riding area is going to have their own rules on E-bikes. Where I ride in the Surrey Hills I don't think anyone is going to have an issue if someone rocks up on an E-bike. I am sure somewhere like Whistler (or any other bike park either in North America or Europe) there will be issues.

I see the issue is the classification of E-bikes. Whilst out riding the other night I saw a sign stating "No Unauthorised Motor Vehicles". We could debate if an E-bike is a motorised vehicle or not till the cows come home. I don't think they are but others will probably interpret the rules differently.

Personally I don't have an issue with them and don't think they will cause a problem in the UK as long as riders are tolerant towards other trail users.

That's my 2 pence worth. I'm off to roost some berms on my 27.5 plus mud tyred 500W Electric Geared E-Bike.... Razz
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 I just saw the Stealth Bomber bike with my own eyes and in my view these actually DO not belong on bike trails. It's 40kg! Unlike bikes with motor assisted pedalling which come under or just above 20kg, so you can't ride it like a bicycle anyways. You can barely lift it. So why don't you get a trials moto with cruising gear? Such bike will increase erosion greatly since it rides just like a regular motorcycle, it has power surplus delivered by hand operated throttle. Pedals on such thing are unnecessary - why would you pedal if you have the throttle? I would still not put both into the same bag. It is the case between motor assisted pedaling and pedal assisted motor. I also wouldn't buy a pedal assist bike for myself since I am fortunate to ride the analog way. Legislation of motor assisted bikes is easy - just say no throttle and max wattage at 250W, power cut at 25kmh - 3 points long list of requirements - Everyone else fk off to moto trails! It already works in EU - Here you go, easy-peasy!
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 Holy crap that can do 50mph (80km/h for you newschoolers) and has 4500W. That's a whole 18 Jared Graves' at your fingertips...

Why not just get a MX bike?
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 @fartymarty - my neighbor has a 70kg trails moto with garbox having a cruise gear allowing him to ride over 30MPH for transportation. He says it is fantastic to ride in the woods up north Sweden where population is like 3 lads per 100 square miles and forests are designated for IKEA and SCF toilet paper anyways.
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 @WAKIdesigns that would be useful for getting away from the trolls you have in northern Sverige.
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 no pun intended... I've seen the movies and heard the stories / folklore about the trolls in northern Sweden.
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 Did they look like that? www.pinkbike.com/photo/12199360 I'm Polish with Crimean roots, but Vikings used to sail very far up into the Volga river for trade and party, before they set out to conquer the West, so maybe I have the genetics and I just came home by living in Sweden... Maybe we have common ancestors! Unless you are a ginger and have no soul, so there is no way for you to Valhalla. When we die, we will go there and Thor himself will be powering our super engines! As to mythologies and Stacy, he is just affraid that someone will ride E-bike on a burial ground and spirits of the Shredding Bear and Stoked Wolf will mess up Whistler
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 @fartymarty sorry i found an error in my previous post: i missed an N and changed all the sense! should read: ... but it Never crosses etc.. i don't want to have horse owners out of multiuser trail Well.. i still don't like horse poo Wink

Overpowered ebikes (stealth bomber, bultaco brinco or similar) are massively fun (i own a similar beast, lighter than a stealth bomber and programmable on the fly so it can be a 250w PAS "legal ebike" or a mini electric dirtbike usable with throttle power) but even i belive that are something more similar to a MX than a MTB and should be used with mx bikes if not power limited.
By the way they have way more torque at 0rpm than a gas/petrol engine that's why some people prefer this kind of "toy" to a MX bike.
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 @WAKIdesigns more like these ones... www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707 altho I believe they are the Norwegian species which are slightly different from the Svensk.

I have been called ginger but I'm not a proper ginger therefore probably have half a soul, unlike our mutual friend Kyle....

@k1kk0 got ya.
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 Mnah, those are long gone, too big to survive in urbanized world. Also there was a program on Swedish TV called "Trolljägarna" - "Troll hunters", a guy looking for internet trolls and asking them why they are such a-holes. He was at my place but guy had no chance, I asked him: what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
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 African or European?
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 African! I was prepared for that! My next question was meant to be: what is the fastest wheel size? I also had "how to defend yourself against a man with a banana?" In store
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 I would run like f*ck, eat the banana and throw the skin at him aka Mario cart

The fastest wheel size is a tricky one. I assumed we are talking bikes (of the pedally dirt variety as we are on pinkbike) and not rockety things like the Blue Flame and such...

And are we talking pedal assisted electric bikes to bring things full circle... or are they still the work of the devil
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 Devil makes use of idle hands...
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 U guys crack me up...love it, cheers.
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 Its all about good craic.
  • + 2
 Many of our users are under 18. So I think the ****s are appropriate.
  • + 1
 fair enough. i need to watch my potty mouth anyway.
  • + 1
 @paulaston We as Pinkbike users could champion the use of simple, well written English.

I am sure there are a number of us who "write" for a job and can pass on the knowledge we have to other creating a more literate biking community.
  • + 1
 Yes, please. I do not trust people using long words...
  • + 1
 Waki, I completely agree. It is harder to write well without the use of unnecessarily long words.

I remember reading that "The Old Man and the Sea" was written using simple English.
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 The Lapierre Gravity Republic is dead, long live the Canyon Gravity Republic.
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 Canyon needs a new DH bike before setting up a team :-P
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 Dont forget Canyon is probably going to create and ride on prototypes in the 1st season so they are not picking current bike line...
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 They better should ;-)
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 I don't know why but I have a feeling that it might (perhaps) be Intense. But then again rumors...
  • + 0
 Loic loic loic....
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 I heard their deal with Canyon didnt end up happening...specialized gravity republic
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 What's wrong with the current dh bike?
  • - 1
 I am very excited if canyon can handle the supply difficulties and porvide loic a bike ;-)
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 Loic will be Specialized Smile , you will see in one week for the official announce and the famous clue is a reference to Palmer in the Specialized team.

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  • + 1
 INTENSE negotiations for Loic.
  • + 0
 @ba1rog see above comment.
  • + 1
 My guess is Peaty leaving is a transition to get Bruni on Santa Cruz rumor is he is spending the summer in California doing an internship with 100% so . . .
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 From what I've gathered on french speaking forums, the GR remains the exact same team. Same racers, same mechanics. Loic nor his grease monkey are leaving the team. Local lads who knows Loic are saying that he and his team will ride for the big S next. No clue if true or not ...
  • + 0
 It's the big S or Intense. One of the GR's mechanic imports Intense in France. Could be it who knows ...
  • - 1
 Making my prediction now. Intense WC team with Palmer at the helm with Bruni as no.1 rider on m16/DVO.
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 Yeah with dr phil as their mental support and mcdonalds as a food partner.. Culturally I don't see this working at all.
  • + 1
 @bonkywonky I hope you enjoy eating your words at a later date.
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 @bonkywonky @sicmoto Well it could work even with Macca as a partner. France is the second biggest market after the US one! Yes you read that right guys! When it comes to the big M France beats the UK or Germany. Nothing to be proud of but they don't have any fair competition like BK or CJ.
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 dropping DH for ebikes, the French really know how to be pussies
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 bingo. when i saw nico on an ebike last year i cried.
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 In his defence he had a bum knee at the time. And he's not getting any younger Smile
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 I saw that video too. It was so funny when he passed the road bikers uphill.
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 do not call it e-bike, call it moped
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 Hi my name is El Litri, I live in the Antarctica, and I'm gonna kill the electric bike
  • + 1
 Too soon? *boom*
  • + 0
 @stacykohut - I did have a long moment of shadenfreude when I saw it - I could sense the pain in the hearts of people I would surely despise if I met them. Please don't ruin my world by showing signs of being one of them. People on DH bikes saying that E-bikes are not real bikes are sissies and posers - I thought you hate posers. They surely suck at riding, it is the guilt of sucking, self-disappointment that lies at the base of e-bike hate. Bunch of morons thinking that DH bike is a internationally recognized certificate for possession of large balls - it isn't. Anyone thinking that he is skilled cuz he rides DH bike for few years is a raw idiot. This sets him on a crusade on windmills and dragons, because deep inside he feels that something is not right, but he is too fkng stupid to realize that his poor skill set is too blame.
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 get a grip waki.



ebikes are not welcome on hiking,horse, or bicycle trails.

you wanna ride an ebike anywhere else than where i mentioned above?
go for it. all the more power to ya.have fun and enjoy.


what else needs to be explained?
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 @stacykohut
"ebikes are not welcome on hiking,horse, or bicycle trails"
but you forgot some relevant stuff

bikes are not welcome on hiking, horse trails, and maybe on ebike trails
hikers are not welcome on bike, horse trails,
horses (btw, I don't know wtf are they doing here) are not welcome on bike, hiking trails

Too many variables in the equation? What else can be said?

Dogs? What to do with those lovely animals? Are they welcome or not?
And the rest of living creatures? Should they be exterminated so that bikers (not e-bikers) can ride alone on earth?

important questions to be answered
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 Stacy, I have an excellent grip on E-bike reality. Executing bans for E-bikes is impossible, just like with MTBs on hiking only trails. Bans and hostility will lead to forming of clubs and associations which will only speed up their full access to the trails. In the long run, there is nothing that can stop the influx of bicycles with limited electric engine assist for pedalling into the biking and hiking trails since their impact on trail surface is no greater than any other bike and depends greatly on riders descending skill. Don't even dream about unskilled fat fkr stigma - as soon as some sort of racing format kicks off for those bikes, there will be really skilled and strong shredders of world scale coming and haters will have no argument up their sleeve. All it takes is some company taking guys like Peaty or Barel and making them ride one and the brittle wall of prejudice will fall. You can't stop the evolution and we human beings are slowly evolving into machines, ourselves.
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 ride your damn ebike all ya want waki, talk shit all day long, just don't ride your e bike on hiking, biking and horse trails.

and @benito...........

here in north america its taken 30 years to get three users groups to coexist on one trail , and the only reason the hikers and the horse people tolerate mtbs is because we are human powered. ad an electric engine to the equation and those two original groups(hikers and horse people) will ban all wheeled vehicles on their trails.
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 The comments should be good on this one ;-)
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flag timlake (Nov 26, 2015 at 7:14) (Below Threshold)
 All these people who think they specialize in predicting the future! Know-it-alls...
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 They should've known when they decided to drop the word ebike.
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 Cost cutting. Ebike. Lol.
  • + 1
 Indeed, I'm sure reliable, powerful and light weight batteries are cheap as chips
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 Evoke competition? Wtf, why, we have motocross, why in the name of god do we need an ebike competition? Keep your stupid ebikes off my trails!
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flag deadmeat25 (Nov 26, 2015 at 8:47) (Below Threshold)
 You actually own trails?
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 Yes and keep your stupid ebike off them.
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 GravityR team had a budget of about 1M€, and because of that, LP stopped to support XC.
Dh bikes are unfortunately nothing in MTB sales for LP, contrary to Specialized/Trek. Enduro/trail/ebikes are main/growing market.
Lapierre's investors are looking for maybe 10/15% profit +royalties.
So LP focus on the best sponsoring spending with the most profitable ROI (not Dh in fact).

Bicycle industry is cool, but's still an industry
Cool for pilots to change! We all cried when Honda closed but look where is Minaar now !
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 I dint think we know enough about coverage etc to know about roi. In terms of coverage dh and xc would smash enduro. Enduro though is closer to the normal market in large parts of the world. Xc is close to the standard market in some parts and dh is close in a small few. I would say its not so much a matter of roi, but more a matter of absolute cost. Get the stripes and a few big victories, leave the game but can still make the claims. I agree with you about change - makes it exciting eh.
  • + 17
 If you check instagram, the user "Ream_Tumours" aka Team Rumours predicted this move (if you can translate the images to real life) and points them all moving to Canyon. Seeing as that user also called it for Athertons to leave GT and move to Trek...
  • + 1
 The Canyon is a freeride bike, not a race machine. That would be a shit move in my opinion, but they could always develop a new bike...
  • + 16
 Loic probably the most wanted man in DH? Not a clue where he'll end up in 2016 (apart from on the podium)
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 I'd like to see him at Santa Cruz Syndicate, from all the stuff I've seen online he's great mates with the current syndicate.
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 Norco or Canyon.... there is a lot of rumors about those two teams and him.
  • + 7
 big fan of loic here, but really , the question i have is what happens to the wonderkid Finn Illes?

that lapierre bike looked great under him.
  • + 0
 Can't see the move to syndicate happening undless someone left? But peaty is going at end of season and minaar and Bryce have had great seasons. Got a feeling minaar might move to specialized, but even then Bryce and loic are 2 of the most expensive riders on the circuit.

Plus loic mentioned blenky at the end of the season so Maybe loic, blenki, and Finn on someone under the gravity banner?

GT as they have no riders, or YT they could surprise?
  • + 1
 I dont think YT has the cash for Loic and his team Salary, it will be one of the big brands. GT perhaps.
  • - 4
flag marcus2065 (Nov 26, 2015 at 9:05) (Below Threshold)
 Wonder kid ? The only wonder kid in dh is Laurie Greenland, he's the one we should be wondering where he's going
  • + 0
 The syndicate team would be so sick!! problem is that loic posted a photo with blenki like in august and commenting "stoked to be teammates again next year!" so the both would go to the SCS Team ? that would be so nice
  • + 2
 Guys, the team stays de same, owner/manager, riders, mechanics etc... It's only the bike sponsor who dropped them.
  • + 15
 "...E-bike competition" ???? I can't think of enough words for "lame" to describe that statement.
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 TOPBIKE Gravity Team !!! ^^ (not sure if non-French will get it though...)
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 With a full Zoom fork and shock xD
  • + 9
 What did the turkey say to the computer........? ..................GOOGLE..GOOGLE........
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 Article is a little confusing in my pre-coffee daze. Is Lapierre pulling from DH and focusing on Enduro, and Gravity Republic will remain as a DH team with a new bike? Or has it all gone to shit and Enduro is the only focal point for both parties?

"The end of DH sponsoring does not mean the end of Team Lapierre Gravity Republic as we are staying very active in Enduro"
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 According to a french article, it seems like Gravity Republic will keep on competing on the DH scene, only Lapierre wants to withdraw from the DH scene. I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what they meant, and I would be surprised that Bruni would stop DH.
  • + 3
 Seems strange that they'd withdraw from DH. They have a great thing going with Bruni; a future multiple race winner and a Frenchman at that. What more could a brand ask for?
  • + 1
 It'd be purely to cut costs, use the rainbow stripes as much as possible without having to pay for a team. Ews riders would be a lot cheaper
  • + 6
 Team Lapierre Gravity Republic is the 'Marketing name' for the Lapierre MTB team. So they will probably keep that name in Enduro.
It is actually Pure Agency that parts way with Lapierre. Pure Agency is a private company that employ Bruni & Vergier. Lapierre was its bike partner. Pure Agency keeps the riders and staff and has to find a new bike manufacturer
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 I bet they found one a while ago.... We just haven't been officially informed
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 It seems that Lapierre can't afford to keep a world champion and Loris Vergier approaching the top level. The Pure Agency structure will remain the same with the same riders and a new bike brand will replace Lapierre, but which one? There's a lot of speculation on Canyon, but not only
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 This isn't really much different than the atherton Trek deal. They have a team, atherton racing which includes the atherton and Taylor Vernon, and they changed bike sponsors. Same deal here I would imagine. The team is still intact, they will just be riding under a new title sponsor. Which I'm sure, as someone already pointed out, has likely been found just not announced yet. Now that this release was published it will likely be any day now.
  • + 8
 E bike really? Let's burn every e bike event we can. Starting with the one at Sea Otter.
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flag deadmeat25 (Nov 26, 2015 at 8:53) (Below Threshold)
 Moron... You've just become one of those cunts that puts trip wires across trails.
  • + 5
 Drop the E word and "kaboom" more hate on pinkbike than an on ISIS propaganda video.

C'mon dudes... Go out and try an ebike then you can judge.

Yep they are not MTB in the purest form but are fun and way less damaging on the trails that a bad rider on a trail or a dirt bike going up a trail.

I use one and use also a traditional MTB both are fun both are different but no need to hate.
You should be pissed of by people damaging trails whatever they use to go up or own the mountain.
Try one the you can judge more objectively.
  • + 0
 So true. I was anti 650b until I tried one. I also laughed at dropper posts. Until I tried one.
  • + 5
 The mere mention of eBikes on here and you lot are like the Daily Mail reading "immigrants stole our jobs" type lot.
Don't fear the unknown, embrace it, you'll probably live longer
  • + 3
 I chased down a gas powered moped riding on my local BIKE and HIKE trail for 20+ minutes and passed him at 25ish mph on my road bike. He was smoking a cigarette and looked like white trash and I felt like a f'n champ. To each their own but don't ride ebike on mtb specific trails when wet and give right of way to everyone else. Also, if you ride faster than me on a mtb trail you will probably crash and die. I am that fast
  • + 2
 From what I see is, Downhill is Sport more dedicated to young people that dont have money to buy the new Lapierre DH Dream machine, e-bikes are dedicated to older riders that use to have more money to spend and Lapierre e-bikes are amazing. tryed an e-bike this week and is a crazy machine theres no reason people can have fun on it especial older riders with health problems. Even like this is really hard to understand that and really sad. I love DH race action and cant find fun watching a e-bike race at all. Sorry for Lapierre really shame
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 e-bike competition is wrong on so many levels...
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 Today I was riding Enduro in San Remo and Loris Vergier was testing a new bike and was hiding the bike no one could see what bike was.The best trails in my life so steep and tecnical trails of my life.. Thats why they test there.
  • + 1
 Am i the only person in the world who thinks that one day, e-bikes will be f*cking awesome?

They're not going to replace the bicycle, so what's the f*cking problem?

It's got a motor in it, big f*cking deal, is Moto GP and MX for pussies as well?

Get your heads out of your stupid f*cking arses.

Nuff said Smile
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 The problem is that they are on the same trails as mtb.
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flag deadmeat25 (Nov 26, 2015 at 9:27) (Below Threshold)
 And?
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 And land access and insurance is hard enough to come by, and having motorised vehicles using our trails will only cause problems.

Walkers/horses have a hard time getting used to and accepting us going down trails at speed, if people start going uphill at speed it's gonna make some people upset.

And the general public will most likely not be aware that these e-bikes are motorised and just see it as bikers riding excessively fast.

Unless you have an injury or illness you have no need for an E-bike and should either just ride your MTB or buy a MX bike
  • + 3
 Get off your ass and ride normal mtb!!!!! don't need no damn e-bike!! JUST GET STRONGER!!!
  • + 0
 I'm waiting to see an ebike show up at whistler...can't imagine doing dirt merchant on an ebike. Lol! Guess they are not really meant for park are they?
  • + 2
 Who gives a shit about e-bikes and racing? This post is more about the GR dudes. Hopefully they get a deal with a bike manufacturer that will pay them all what they deserve. Best of luck to them.
  • + 3
 CHawk, Pure Gravity employs the riders and pays them. Lapierre was their frame supplier. In 2016 they will be riding different frames. This concept shouldn't be too confusing.
  • + 1
 After watching at least 2. Videos on e-bikes I'm severely disappointed. I thought I'd be able to do 30mph uphill and on the flat single track here in TX. Nope. Looks like a heavy bike for the out of shape and skill free. They need to get to 30pounds and lose the governors before I'm interested.

One thing that does make sense is for is my 60year old dad (who I raced with in the 90's - he rode moto and DH) to be able to go ride with me and not have to wait too much and be an ass because I'm losing a ride day.

Also - didn't read the whole thread- but what's Bruni riding next year?
  • + 4
 The team is not parting ways, they are just parting ways from the bike sponsor "Lapierre"
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 "We are also supporting the development of ebike competition, which is undergoing massive expansion" ... well, shit
  • + 4
 First I will slash your ebike tires then I will piss all over it.
  • + 2
 wow, well that's fucking dumb, and fuck Lapierre...this is the last fucking thing I would fucking expect to see in my Pinkbike feed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 1
 Syndicate will be a trade team next year, the UCI have dropped the team /jersey clothing rule which was the reason SCS weren't a trade team last session. This year they just got to pay up to be a trade team
  • + 4
 Ebike competition???? Thats some fxcked up shit Smile Smile
  • + 3
 Specialized is missing a junior rider maybe Finn Iles will go to Specialized
  • + 2
 You win Your first WC-Race at the World Champs and at the end of the year they (Lapierre) quit on their DH team. Way to go, money well spent!
  • + 3
 Could it really be Canyon, they have not released a 650b dh for 2016, right?
  • + 3
 Specialized seem the obvious destination, given that gwinn is going to either yt or ktm....
  • + 7
 I keep hearing this but want to know where this info is surfacing from
  • + 1
 I think ktm because he is already sponsored by them, but yt is just a rumour which is getting increasingly closer to solid info
  • + 3
 Does KTM make mountain bikes?
  • + 1
 Yeah but they are lacking a dh or freeride bike in their lineup
  • + 1
 Apparently all Red Bull riders gets deals on KTM so that might be why the rumor is flying around. Cant see that YT has the money to land someone as Gwin.
  • + 1
 ktm doesn't have a dh bike today the day, do they ?
  • + 9
 How long does it take for people to understand KTM bicycles is a completely different company from KTM MX? Seriously.. RedBull riders get a discount/deal with KTM for MX bikes due to RedBull's relationship with KTM, thats it! Now please let this rumour die already.
  • + 1
 that's exacly what a ktm insider would say
  • + 4
 Whuuut!!?? More questions than answers from that article.
  • + 2
 Its all gone to pot this year, its a fair mix up.. No Lapierre at the World Cup though is gonna be strange.
  • + 3
 Rocky Mountain is rebuilding!
  • + 1
 E-duro? Having trouble keeping track of all the 'duros on the scene these days. Thoroughly entertained by the crazy offseason rumors.
  • + 3
 Maes could be going to lappierre for enduro
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 to ride that casimodo fugly bike? no thanks
  • + 3
 lapierre should focus on E-bmx
  • + 1
 Heard all the rumours leading up to this but thought they were bullshit to be honest, due to how successful the team was. Just goes to show that anything can happen!
  • + 1
 It's not about success. In sponsor driven sports it's about money and lapierre decided they are better off focusing resources in other areas than DH. All these teams are to the companies are marketing and advertising tools.
  • + 1
 GT might be looking for some talent and to spend a few bucks on a young star,,,
  • + 0
 Just a thought since the Athertons left a huge company like GT and Gt no doubt will be looking for a team, how does GT Gravity Republic sound?????
  • + 2
 they are going to canyon, the bulldog is heading to GT
  • + 1
 They might get GT on there side. And where are laurie greenland and brook macdonald going to goand the rest of treks team
  • - 2
 I hope they dont
  • + 2
 whats wrong with GT?
  • + 2
 Gary Turner Gravity Republic
  • + 1
 He's not developing a 27.5 dh bike and getting away from dh in general due to the small share of the market.
  • + 0
 yeah E bikes, this upcoming year at Sea Otter there is an E-bike race along w the usual other races...its timed, most laps win
  • + 1
 No matter how bright the future seems to be, it is always a sad thing to say goodbye to the past.
  • + 2
 E-bike competition; who can drive longer with only 1 battery!
  • + 1
 ...that's what makes the charm, uphill in the corners it can slide like a motorcycle, downhill like a DH and in addition there is the strategy to conserve its battery and do not end up pedaling alone with a 20kg bike …
try it, with it you can go to your DH spot without shuttle Wink
  • + 1
 With one of the most "AMAZING" years in Downhill ever, it has also been the CRAZIEST !!
  • + 3
 specialized
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 Loic to the Syndicate - he would be right at home there!
  • - 4
flag RedBurn (Nov 26, 2015 at 9:05) (Below Threshold)
 that!!!
  • + 2
 Will there be any teams left in 2017?
  • + 1
 yes,specialized and trek
  • + 2
 A new king, i see the team on Intense...
  • - 1
 Don't think Intense has the money. Did any other major names move to GT? I would bet on them
  • - 2
 intense woul be awesome! hopefully not GT
  • + 1
 Yes.
  • + 1
 I'd rather shove a lit firework up my arse than even be seen talking to an e-bike owner ...
  • + 2
 Midt be Canyon. Makes sense with Barel being their team mgr
  • + 0
 So who's on Lapierre for next season? and Loic will be riding for Syndicate, Peaty successor ? Hmmmm very interesting to see
  • + 1
 they will move to canyon bikes i guess
  • + 1
 what a bunch of flogs....
  • + 1
 Bruni going to ride for santa cruz, I am guessing.
  • + 1
 Rocky Mountain Gravity Republic They need someone to ride their new bike.
  • + 1
 Bruni to Santa Cruz Syndicate
  • + 2
 YT Gravity Republic?
  • + 1
 Maybe gt will snap them up after the atherton's move to trek !
  • + 1
 like a yeti cycle? no more DH again, focus on enduro Big Grin
  • + 2
 Gt has a few spots open
  • - 1
 could be..
  • + 0
 Its not ideal, but most likely it'll be GT, they have a gutted team at the moment so you'd expect GR to slot into GT,
  • + 0
 What's going on this year? First the Athertons, then Trek and now Lapierre!
  • + 1
 very strange huh
  • + 2
 Dumb
  • + 0
 Loic said he couldn't wait to be teammates with Blenki after winning world champs... I think yeah its Norco
  • + 1
 Please let it be Canyon!!
  • + 2
 Commencal,
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 imagine all the frenchies combined in a Commencal team.....Remi,Loic,Myriam,Vergier, pretty badass team.
  • + 2
 Spé or Canyon ???
  • + 0
 canyon bikes (fabien barrell was rising for)
  • + 0
 loic goes to NORCO, bacayse he s bach together with blenki and blenki stays at norxo... AS SIMPLE AS THAT
  • + 2
 ahahahahha WRONG SIMPLE AS THAT. Nicce try though
  • + 1
 so they won t be teammates again ?
  • + 1
 Trek!
  • - 1
 Nice Lapierre . First they waived Ragot and Blenki and now this , Come ONNNN
  • - 1
 French team with french pilot, so sad is over DH deserves more than a replacement by e bike in competition which is gay
  • + 0
 it would be great to see Bruni and Ratboy in the same team !
  • + 1
 Heading to Team Norco!!
  • - 1
 "We are also supporting the development of ebike competition, which is undergoing massive expansion,"

gay
  • + 1
 TREK GOING AT IT AGAIN?
  • - 2
 Never liked Lapierre to tell the truth. Look up an image of the owner. Good riddance! Hope the guys find nice new bike sponsors!
  • + 0
 Bruni would be a great fit for the sps.
  • + 1
 GT?
  • + 1
 So who's on gt next?
  • - 1
 loic will be taking steve peats place in syndicate?
  • + 3
 Ewww,I like it.
  • + 4
 Peaty is racing his last season in 2016 so there isn't a spot up for grabs there yet
  • + 7
 If Bruni joins Syndicate I will emit girly giggles. All favourite riders in one team. Won't happen though.
  • + 6
 Based on how the press release reads, Loic is still on a team. He's not a free agent. His current team is just changing sponsors.
  • + 1
 @blank-fire. The Syndicate has had four riders at once before, it could happen again. Besides turning odwn the world champion because you already have three riders for the next 12 months isn't the best forwardplanning.
  • + 1
 At the moment there's no option for peaty to race WC DH? Unless syndicate become a trade team?
  • + 1
 Wasn't that whole deal with Santa Cruz not being a trade team just some stupid nonsense over minor differences in jersey designs? Seems that could be a pretty easy fix for this season to just get the team back in good standing.
  • + 1
 It was, specifically Peaty has a Royal jersey, Bryceland Fox and Minnaar O'Neal. UCI specifies that in trade teams all the riders have identical jerseys, which obviously can't happen if they're from three different companies. This is really dumb, even if they're from the same company I'd still give riders slightly different jerseys to differentiate them in the media. Just like Rossi's bike and leathers have yellow accents whilst Lorenzo's are red in Moto GP, same team, similar look but you can instantly tell them apart, even a vaguely media savvy group should be able to figure that one out, but not the UCI apparently.
  • + 1
 I don't think it's the different brands that are an issue. They have always worn different brand jerseys. I think it's just the layout has to be similar with major sponsor placement the same size and location etc. And last year's jerseys were denied.
  • - 2
 well hopefully CANYON is makin a new bike coz the one they have is a big piece of SH!T
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