WTB Ranger 2.8-inch TCS Light High-Grip Tire - Review

Nov 8, 2016
by Richard Cunningham  
WTB Ranger 2.8 plus tire - review


This week we review the Ranger, Wilderness Trail Bike's all-purpose Plus tire that can be had in either a 2.8-inch or 3.0-inch carcass, and in all three popular wheel diameters: 29, 27.5 and 26 inches. Its small tread blocks are pointy to help shed mud, and its flexible casing should make for a bump-smoothing, fast rolling tire. WTB says that, "the Ranger has taken the widest range of terrain and conditions into account, resulting in a tire that rolls fast, hooks up to all your local trails, willingly sheds mud and outdoes itself in both wet and dry."


Details:
• Purpose: all-condition trail and back-country touring
• Width: 2.8" or 3.0" (stated)
• Wheel size options: 26", 27.5" and 29"
• Suggested rim width: 30 to 45mm Plus widths
• Tubeless ready: Yes
• Configuration tested: TCS Light, High Grip, 27.5" x 2.8"
• Weight: 848 grams (actual)
• MSRP: $67.95 USD
• Contact: WTB, @wilderness-trail-bikes


WTB has been cranking out new tire designs at a rate that suggests that the California design group is gunning for the likes of Maxxis and Schwalbe. It may take a while before WTB earns the title of, "the most blacked-out tire in World Cup DH and enduro competition," but they were founding members of the Plus bike movement and got a head start on a fresh trend that is presently the only growth market spurring sales of authentic mountain bikes. Innovative wheel and tire technology will be the keystones of Plus, and WTB's knowledge and experience could give them an advantage should Plus go mainstream, as some insiders predict it will.
WTB Ranger 2.8 plus tire - review
The crown tread is raised slightly to make it roll faster on hardpack.


Meet the Ranger 27.5 x 2.8 TCS Light, High Grip

WTB has a mind-numbing naming protocol, based upon casing stiffness and rubber compounds that would take a separate article to introduce, so all I'll say is: the Ranger tires tested here fit 27.5-inch rims, (preferably, 30- to 40-millimeters wide). The version we asked for was the smaller-option, 2.8-inch width, and the configuration sent to us was the TCS Light, High Grip, which means that it is tubeless-ready, it has the lighter of WTB's two casing options, and uses their grippiest rubber compound (Gravity DNA Rubber). Our Ranger tires weighed 854 grams and came with an MSRP of $67.95 USD.

WTB Ranger 2.8 plus tire - review
Small, but aggressive edging blocks provide logic-defying, Velcro-like grip in the turns.
WTB Ranger 2.8 plus tire - review
Every block is twisted and grooved. Note how the reinforcing rubber layer has been pared away to save weight.


The Ranger's voluminous, lightweight casing and minimal-looking tread pattern defies the current enduro-inspired trend, which embraces rigid, two-ply DH casings, topped with rows of large blocks of sticky, low-rebound rubber. Both, however, will get you stopped, accelerated, and around corners with remarkable speed and precision, but in entirely different ways. Enduro tires are like cat's claws, you force them deep into the soil, ripping and slashing your way around the trail using flashy power moves. The Ranger is like a soft Gecko's paw, lined with dozens of small grippers. The tire molds itself around the trail surface and grips tenaciously, with much less fanfare.

The larger, softer casing spreads the weight of the bike and rider over a larger area, and thus cannot concentrate pressure on a large, single tread block like a DH tire is designed to do. So, WTB reduced the size of the Ranger's tread blocks and gave them pointy tops and sharp edges to help push them into the surface. WTB says that the smaller, pointed blocks also shed mud quite well - a ray of hope for anyone who has slogged uphill pushing Plus-width tires that were fouled by mud.

Rather than relying on one row of stiff edging blocks for traction, the Ranger's side tread becomes more concentrated to build up grip as the tire is leaned over. The row of edging blocks that WTB designed is well reinforced, and they protrude beyond the tire carcass (a necessity, it turns out) to encourage the tire to jump out of ruts - and to prevent it from slipping down the sidewall on steep, off-camber rocks and roots.

The crown tread of the Ranger is slightly raised, presumably, to reduce the contact patch slightly so it will roll faster on smooth or hard-pack surfaces. I'm not a fan of any tire with raised center ridges, because they usually give the ride quality a dull and less responsive feel, but such was not the case with these tires. The initial sense, after airing them up and checking for optimum pressure, was that they were fast rolling and more energetic than expected.
WTB Ranger 2.8 plus tire - review
Ranger tires mounted up easily without tubes to 40mm wide Sun Ringle Duroc rims, using a Topeak Booster reservoir-type floor pump.


Riding the Rangers

WTB's Ranger 2.8-inch Ranger Light, High Grips replaced a set of 2.8-inch Maxxis Ikon tires, which mirror the Ranger's key design points, with smaller, widely-spaced tread blocks and a lightweight, flexible carcass. The Maxxis Ikons were a disappointment from the outset - falling short on durability, rolling efficiency and cornering grip. The uncanny resemblance gave me good reason to expect that the Ranger would suffer the same fate.

The review got off to a promising start as the Rangers mounted up easily to Sun Ringle Duroc 40 rims. Plus tires are not very stiff, so getting tubeless tire beads to side up to 40-millimeter-width rims can become an inflationeer's headache. I used a Topeak Joe Blow Booster pump to air them up and Stan's Race Sealant to keep them that way. The WTB tires look much more aggressive when mounted up (if I dare use that term for Munchkin-size tread blocks), which also boosted my hopes for a good first ride. I began the review sessions with my default pressures for 2.8-inch tires: 14 psi up front and 18 in the rear. Later, I discovered that the Rangers rolled faster and were more stable in rough corners at 18 and 20 psi respectively.

One 50-minute lap on my home test course was enough to squelch any doubts that the Ranger might be a repeat performance of the previous tires. I was often pedaling a gear higher on the smoother hardpack segments, and the Intense ACV they were mounted to felt more energetic everywhere. On pavement, the raised center section made a dramatic improvement in reducing its rolling resistance. It pedaled like a good mountain bike should.

Plus bikes tend to have massive braking traction up front when descending steeply, while rear-wheel traction is often below norms - especially on bare rock. Here the WTB Ranger was better than most - probably assisted by its stickier DH rubber compound. It was no Schwalbe Magic Mary, but I never found reason to question its grip in the rear. Traction up front however, was foolishly abundant under braking, to the extent that I had to re-acquaint myself with my standard-tire trail bike to keep from washing the front tire on steeps and corner entries.

WTB Ranger 2.8 plus tire - review


It actually did rain while testing, and to WTB's credit, the Rangers did not pack any more mud than your typical Maxxis Minion or High Roller II - less, if you factor in the reduced knob height, and they self cleaned quite well. The side blocks found grip on slippery rocks and off-camber trail segments that stymied previous plus tires, and the rain also created plenty of deep ruts with which to test the Ranger's edging abilities. later, after the ruts hardened up, I learned that I could trust the rangers to give me an out option when I needed to plant my wheels into the maw of a big one.

Saving the best for last, I was dutifully impressed by the Ranger's cornering grip, How those tiny teeth find grip is beyond reason, but they do - on shifty gravel, slick rock, silty stream beds, and everything in between , I can't speak for how well the Rangers could grip on drippy Northwestern tree roots, but they are well suited for Southwestern trails. I rarely hit a corner without thinking afterwards that I could have gone in a little harder, because when they broke traction, the bike would still be gripping hard enough to burn off speed - and then it would crank around the turn like nothing happened. They douse the persistent notion that all plus tires wobble under hard cornering and bounce all over the trail at speed. Evidently, those things don't occur when the pressures are right and the tire is matched to the correct rim width.


Summing it All Up

As glowing a review as this was, WTB's 2.8-inch Rangers are not for everyone. I didn't slash a sidewall, but I would be remiss not to warn aggressive types that a sub-900 gram Plus tire is not going to hold up to Mach-2 descents through rock gardens with 20 psi or less standing between you and disaster. That said, they held up well, with only a few near misses evident on the sidewalls and not a single flat over two months of riding. On that note, as long as you don't skid them up, WTB's Rangers are quite durable. Mine still look good, but riders who haven't figured out the front brake thing could burn through a back tire in one day of hard riding. For all-out performance, I'd place them close to the top of the Plus pile. As an all 'rounder, it can't top Schwalbe's Nobby Nic 2.8-inch, but it certainly fulfills WTB's promise of an excellent all-condition trail and touring tire.


Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesWTB's Ranger Plus tire is designed to showcase the best aspects of the genre. It is lightweight enough to float effortlessly above trail chatter and grippier than a Velcro skin suit on a terrycloth water-slide. The Ranger offers an extra measure of control and confidence in nearly every trail situation that one would encounter between the borders of cross country racing and enduro competition. WTB gets it. While some tire makers are erroneously scaling up heavy enduro tires to Plus proportions, WTB's more comprehensive approach to mid-size tire design suggests that Plus bikes might be the beginning of a something new, rather than an evolutionary branch of the weather-beaten all-mountain tree. - RC

WTB Ranger 2.8 plus tire - review



159 Comments

  • + 114
 F**k Donald Trump
  • + 64
 Yeah. WTF America?
  • - 68
flag therealtylerdurden (Nov 9, 2016 at 0:31) (Below Threshold)
 F*ck both of you.
  • + 145
 Trump will make 26" great again
  • + 76
 Why are you mad at Trump? You should be mad at Clinton. She cheated Bernie Sanders, she cheated the American people of a Democratic candidate, and she got positive free press and Trump got only negative press. Clinton is evil and f*cked us by cheating Bernie Sanders, and cheating us young people. She didn't represent us, and was a wolf in sheep clothing.
  • + 44
 @abzillah: Are you saying that you voted Trump because you were mad at Hilary? If so, you're an even bigger idiot than he is. Hilary may lie and be untrustworthy, but, newsflash, she's a politician, they all do that. Trump has no experience, and you just elected the tangerine ball of hate. That says even more about the average american than it does about Trump.
  • - 47
flag passwordpinkbike (Nov 9, 2016 at 4:30) (Below Threshold)
 @MmmBones: F*ck 26" because is dead!!!
  • + 11
 @abzillah: she also won the popular vote, just not in the states she needed to get 270
  • + 14
 @stumpymidget: No I voted for Hillary, but sometimes great things happen in life.
For example, when you are driving on the motorway, and a Prius is driving slow in the fast lane and slowing everyone down. It's really annoying when they don't understand that they should move over. When the slow Prius driver gets stuck behind even a slower Prius driver in the fast lane, that puts a smile on my face. The frustration that they must feel. Clinton just got slapped back into reality. The democratic party just got slapped back to reality. They do have stars on their side, but if they want to sweep them under the rug to push a flawed candidate, sometimes a slower prius driver will get in your way.

Just like Obama didn't take people's guns away, and he didn't bring Islamic Sharia Law, we will be okay under Trump, maybe even better under him than Hillary.
  • + 16
 US election is mistaken for being the example of ultimate stupidity. I see it as an evidence of limitations of intelligence. All these actors and intellectuals bashing him down in official videos. I guess they all look stupid now... yea I agree with them and so fkng what? We thought that getting smart and educated is the way to move up the evolution ladder. My thoughts go to the people in the Middle East and I am happy to be living in Sweden, far away from strategic interests of super powers and medieval fkrs shouting Allah Ackbar before they kill random people. Sucks for the environmental damage. I put trust in people like Elon Musk and nations like China.

It's going to be frighteningly interesting. It will be worlds biggest reality show
  • + 18
 @abzillah - you get props for the Prius analogy alone.

Btw since this is a tire review - props to WTB for doing a 26" version.
  • + 1
 Russian smash n grab,brits and u.s closing doors..f*cking apocalypse coming Frown
  • + 0
 @abzillah: you are too intelligent for the room. Why are you here?
  • + 3
 @abzillah: What clothing is Trump dressed in? None. He's not driving a Prius either. He's taken off his shirt and is riding a bareback horse with Putin. And Le Pen. And Farage. And many others.
  • + 3
 @jbforester You spelled "Hillary Clinton" wrong.
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 Hold this L my ni**a
  • + 1
 I almost threw up when Trump got the decision. But then the DOW is up 300pts today. My compass is all jacked up.
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 @WAKIdesigns: just so u no WAKI i like your style,that being said,i came to the the land of the free win i was 4,1970,i was lucky or unlucky jury still out on that 1,i'm a product of my terra forma,i seen things come and go,the rise and fall of skateboardin,bmx,mtb,yat yat,learned from the streets and friends and just plain stupid luck,but i learn to study the things before i stick that dirty as foot in my mouth and it happen's 2 every one,no won is perfect,and nothing is free,there is a price tag on every move you make,so that being said o sorry i can not spell,and i'm yat yat,we need to look at the bigger picture RC IS TALKIN about WTB tires my boy from way back in the DH day #15 MARK the rc race from n.CALI,were the BLM take it away and put us on fire road no single track,so lets not get off track and stick 2gether like one,i do not no maybe u lucky sweden.,but jury still out on that 1.thank u 4 you time,DIRTY O out of his mind.
  • - 1
 @Martinezorlando: we are all living next to the void... some stare into it believing they achieved transcendence over shortcomings of human existence. But the void returns the gaze... once you find God the void will suck you in. Once you find void the God will claim you. The free will is the resistance to the tug of the two. Who is the biggest fool? One who never felt the need to find them? One who constantly bounces and retransforms between the two while being fully aware of them? One who sticks to one of them? Or the one who rejects them decides to be in the middle? The void returns the gaze, God tyrns you away once you find him... once you become too conscious it will show you a happy idiot. Winner of a fool? Only time and location can tell... Zen Master says: we'll see
  • + 9
 Oh my god boys can't this be the one place i come to online to escape this shit? I'm trying not to think about it.
  • + 6
 @jbforester Can we leave the politics to facebook? Trump sucks floppy donkey dick, and Hillary is licking the donkey's taint. After the circus of the past few months it would be f*cking pleasant if Pinkbike didn't get corrupted too.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: no no no..don't start changing the script you.ive been staring down,looking for the abyss for weeks.whats all this void bollocks grasshopper??you can f*ck off now if you think your altering it Facepalm
  • + 4
 >posting a complete a complete random opinion in the comment section of a canadian biking website that will teach trump a lesson ....., sure buddy ...take the politics out of this website, also just a tip you should stop listening to cnn...
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 @WAKIdesigns: you a funny guy,now are we looking at humans as a race or r we talkin about tires that keep u grounded to the terra forma or a label that was made up win humans needed something 2 make cense of y fire may burn u,that being said,is RC are god to show us the right label to by,yat yat,sorry waki, but i got a new site we can start,f,,,c,, the words, strait to video no hiding talking bs,humans need to be face to face,words with no face,bs,no bs after news report of new product or race win all video with face so you can face it.or walk.waste time like i'm doing now,your words make us think,i'm talking to all the foot mouth guys that can not ride a bike., but u c i'm falling into the wrong or right jury still out.
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 @Martinezorlando: I NEED SATIVA and DMT. I went waaay to far. I need to go back. I saw God, I saw satan, I slept with the temptress, I've been in the center of a blue super giant, I've slept on gas clouds of Orion Nebula, I dissolved in the void and emerged at the event horizon... there is no technological solution to make us rip like Brandon Semenuk. There is only genetics and deliberate practice. Kill meeeee
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: also renegade nexus-6 replicants on the bars of Orion.
  • - 1
 @Earthmotherfu: Funny you say that because I have never met aliens in my trips... we may be alone in the universe... sorry... we may be alone in THIS universe
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: biorobotic android gen.1 wtb ranger highgrip.lifespan 3yrs. Wtf am I drinking.
  • + 1
 i get high on life,i c y,but don't know y i can c y,o well gotta go to my ship i mean bike ride.happy trails to all who have seen the way.
  • + 1
 @Martinezorlando: shuttle cargo ship or stargazer class?
  • - 1
 @Earthmotherfu: starjizzer...
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: deepspace 9"
  • + 1
 how the F did I get into a talk about some lame Sc-Fi shows for guys who never get laid aaaaaaaaaaaaa! I mean... if you're on a date with an above average good looks girl and mention some Star Trek or Star Wars shit, then that is frickin done. She will never fk you, and none of her friends would ever fk you. Guys coming out with their sci-fi fascinations is one of the best methods of contraception... you're thirty, divorced and meet a hot divorced MILF, tell her, you like Babylon 5. At best she'll say "I hope it's a vibrator". Fk... listen! listen... listen damn it! if you tell a woman that you like some nerdy sht, like silicone grips, star trek, rc cars or minerals, and she won't leave the room, then you better be god damn careful. She's some psycho or something.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
holy shit that was funny. And true!
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: wanking..its the future.
  • + 1
 @Earthmotherfu: Go away. I'm 'batin!
  • - 2
 I just listened to Joe Rogan triggered. As a socialist cnt I found a reason to love American guns hahaha: after Charlie Hebdo got killed and no media wanted to post the drawings of Mohammed people got angry for the lack of free speech. So they organized Draw Prophet Mohammed Drawing Contest in Texas. Two men showed up and opened fire at the building... and got killed almost instantly - buahahaahahaha
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Guns kick ass. Have you ever shot one, Waki? A day at the shooting range changes most people's minds about them.
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 @therealtylerdurden: yea when I was like 16. Some pistol and AK47 but on single fire. On Police shooting range. They didn't allow us to go continuos and only 5 or 6 shots. Then only sport rifles. They are super fun but it is really hard to forget what they are really for. But on the other hand... when my kids grow up a bit so I have more spare time I'll defo get into fighting, shooting, hunting and general "what if world goes under kind shit". As I get older I grow frightened of my lfie hanging on the fkng credit card and daily deliveries to the stores. I don't mean fighting Russian Army, rather managing a big group hungry people... it sucks that I was born in Poland when it comes to these things. I'd gladly do Swedish military service but Polish one was fkd up, that's why avoided it. You wouldn't learn anything else in polish non-profesisonal army than drink deadly moonshine and close your butt at night.
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 @WAKIdesigns: Huh. Respect, man.
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 @therealtylerdurden: I totaly don't like the idea of people walking around with guns because I know there's plenty of people who are fkng stupid. And I don't want them to carry a gun. But I'd shoot those fkrs (especially dudes) who believe that humanity has transcended aggression and we should abandon all weapons... it has nothing to do with pacifism, it's just being a pussy and trying to get credit for it.

Awesome off-topic battin!
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 @WAKIdesigns: Huh. We'll, we disagree on feeling safe with people walking around armed, but we agree about not eliminating weapons.

My earlier batin comment was from the movie idiocracy, they refer to whack off as 'batin lol
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns: bladerunner.pretty close to the mark now bar the androids.for 82 film it's still fresh especially in uhd.im a sucker for Ridley Scott films.im in the midst of writing a script about a polish immigrant superhero,who finally settles in Sweden.by day he works in a mundane petrol station forecourt design office,at night he springs into action to rid the suburbs of thick and dumb spesh and giant riders..he has the antidote..he rides the antidote.
Weapon of choice:12"taser strapon."bend over and let me relieve you of your wanton desire for Taiwan bilge.
Let me inject you with polish 3k weave loveliness"
Script title? WAKIBRATOR.."I'll be back..in your crack.Smile
  • + 1
 @h82crash: Pity will not fit most 26" bikes, or should i say will fit as 26+ on 27.5 bikes so may find a use for wider 26" rims
Great to see 26" rims not dead even if frames are dying
  • - 1
 @BuckNasty44904: Difficult to except a president that says that global warming is a myth and American consumerism is good
Does not give hope for human survival and blame bad weather on acts of god rather than god like humans
Roll on American civil war
  • + 1
 @aljoburr: *accept. Not except.
  • + 2
 @aljoburr: We would be 99.999999% more likely to end up in a civil war if Hitlary was elected. Guaranteed.
  • + 3
 @therealtylerdurden: civil war in US? yea right... tell it to people from former Yugoslavia and they will tell you to get a fkng life. You have no circumstances for a civil war (anymore). Don't you see that 21st century politics is nothing else but a show of appearances for business puppets who pretend they fight? It's WWF. Having said that, not much can change under Trumps presidency, Obama isn't really a candidate for Nobel Peace priz... oh sht he got one... politics becomes a more and more transparent system thanks to the new media, in US or Europe, you can't fk some prositute in Vegas or murder a journalist without it leaking out. Everyone's too comfortable. It's not Russia where you get shot or radiated for leaking information.

So yea I'm sick of this stupid Trump debate. Each president in modern world is a clown at the service of big business and gets entangled in the web of interconnected interests. They talk sht because they have to show as if they were doing something.
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 @WAKIdesigns: Shut up Waki, tell it to Aljoburr up there who suggested the whole civil war thing.
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 @therealtylerdurden: cmon chaps,I've had right old day..
  • + 0
 @therealtylerdurden: shut the fk up! You sht the fk uuuup btch!!! I hit the reply button and didn't erase your name. Sorry alright?! I was just blind commenting! Civil war... and hey have some respect for the Scottish people, even if they talk nonsense. One fisherman from Aberdeen has managed to become a major hemorrhoid in Donald Trumps arse.
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 @WAKIdesigns: Hahahahahaha wtf. We're gonna have to fight this one out man.
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 @WAKIdesigns: You in America yet so we can fight?!
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 @Yoesniceyoungman: I did too, and I totally agree with you bro.
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 @Axxe: Oh man, its funny as hell, because come the f*ck on, people are losing their shit over it. It's sad because that's what half of America has devolved into. Curled in the fetal position, walking out of school and work, because not only did they lose- but they didn't even get a f*cking participation trophy! How will they know that they're special?! lol
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 @therealtylerdurden: devolved? So it was great at some point and isn't now? You know, there is a bunch of twats in Poland who look into mid 1500:s and say that Poland was great back then, from Baltic to Black sea, We were the only nation in the world to ever invade Russia, get to Moscow and stay there for over a year. Oh these were indeed the great times... witch hunts, inquisition, 50% child mortality, 40yr life expectancy... mhwaaa. America is indeed terrible today. 15 nuclear carrier groups, more nukes than all other countries combined, weaponry being almost full generation ahead of everyone else, currently the most battle experienced army in the world. You can grab whatever you want anywhere you want and all people like Bill O'Reilly can think of is whether Putin respects US or not. The only thing that can fk you up is environment, hurricanes, draught and Yellowstone volcano, low ground level, making almost all Florida to be sunk in 50 years. Yet the new man at the chair says the first thing he will do is fk up the climate treaty. America is the greatest, will always be. at the end of the day it all comes down to who holds the biggest gun.
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 @WAKIdesigns: the reason there is global warming is that because liberal anti science idiots bought lies of the coal lobby and shut down modern nuclear power development.
You can not claim Trump being anti science - as all the climate models are indeed flawed, and keep blocking nuclear power development.
All those carbon credit scheme is a scam to make money and impose more taxes. If you care about long term energy needs - fund nuclear research.
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 @Axxe: oh yea, because coal lobby is the only lobby out there, as if burning of coal would be the only or even major source of green house gas emissions. I'm not anti nuclear but I'm not pro. That is because I don't know how a nuclear power plant works and how nuclear fuel is made. All I know is that it is not a popular science kind of information and you definitely won't learn it from absolutely ANY media other than scientific journals. A Nat Geo or Discovry Channel won't tell you that because complexity of such sht tends to be so high it gets boring rather quickly and masses just won't digest that. Therefore I seriously doubt that ANY presidential candidate has any fkng clue about that, they areboccupied with too many things. So here goes down ANY argument that some dude or lady bases her policy on science. If they do, it's by accident. Now I don't know you, so I cannot estimate whether your post is based on actually knowing something about nuclear energy or you just read/ heard some stupid pulp from The Guardian, The Times, CNN, Fox, Newsweek or any other source of easy brain entertainment that has only one purpose: make you feel entertained, then frightened and confused so that you need to find a team that pretends to get all of it, then feel good about being a member of that team.

So no, I don't think that the coal lobby is the source of evil ruining the planet. That is a fkng retarded thing to say. Not sure if you meant that Wink
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 @WAKIdesigns: burning coal is the most significant source of CO2 emissions and people protesting nuclear power are anti science idiots.
If you do not understand that, you are another brainwashed snowflake.
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 @Axxe: ok, you used a couple of markers making me think you have little idea what you talk about (so if you are right it's basically an accident, you chose a right team by a chance). The proper answer to my comment would involve some numbers, not 1.Pointing at a particular political group 2.calling people idiots 3. Talking about some inofficial evil power 4. Being very specific about the cause of the problemS.

You basically talk like a preacher outlining the sources of sin... sounds like a regular FB activist drivel. Sounds like sht people say explaining why a particular football team is the best and why did they win/lose. Recreational pseudo-expertism.

And well, it is rather quick to check what are the causes of global warming and coal although being the big player is nowhere close to be the biggest. Off course unless you believe that coal lobby is corrupting sources like wikipedia.

BTW I am very positive towards nuclear fusion... I even like nuclear weapons. Not sure about the future generation of atomic weapons though... large yield, low radiation. Makes pulling a trigger much easier. On the edge of getting into the age of fusion and AGI
we cannot be sure of anything. One thing I can bet though. Politics is a game, a necessary show, so that every now and then, we move a bit forward while big and powerful eat their cake. You have no fkng clue what you talk about because you cannot, since you are at the bottom of the food chain. If you sat in the board of Exxon you could school people. But you are just a peace of dust trying to connect the constantly changing multi-dimensional puzzle - like all of us here.
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 @WAKIdesigns: I am not interested in what you consider a "proper" answer. I prefer my statements to be correct, succinct and to the point.
  • + 1
 Free the thorium cycle, that should be their slogan. Not the wishy washy pie in the sky crap.
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 Yes and meaningless, like 99% of political talk.
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 @WAKIdesigns: you missed the point again.

There is nothing political about those facts. Those are facts.
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 @Axxe: bold statements need big answers.
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 @Earthmotherfu: Answer was right there.

Stop the climate whining and fund nuclear physics research instead.
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 @Axxe: not suckin wakis knob here but he gives a waki reasoned answer in some detail,yours is kind of like saying"one day we'll inhabit mars,you mark my words"...sketchy with no details. After all, details are everything.
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 @Earthmotherfu: my answer is not sketchy or pie in the sky at all. But to understand that, certain level of science education is needed.
Those who know about those issues, they understand.
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 @Axxe: really?so not you then..obviously.Wink
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 @Earthmotherfu: Your sarcasm is so thoroughly misplaced, that is not even amusing.
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 @Axxe: sorry you're right.so how's your riding going now anyway?
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 @Axxe: so you are confirming that you made a statement that coal burning is the main factor responsible for global warming? You know what, I watched Before the Flood on rewind. I thought - I am either a genius or world is full of idiots. Because Leo Di Caprio hasn't shown a single thing in that film that I haven't heard 5 years ago, and haven't studied to a greater detail, than portraid in this movie. But now I read what you write and get an impression that indeed this movie is necessary...

ok lets talk about facts: I made a 5 minute sweep of google: According to various sources: Electricity and heat production emits between 21% and 25% of total greenhouse gases. When looking at energy production, according to various sources I found that coal stands for between 37 and 41% of Earths tot al energy production. That gives a total contribution of coal burning emissions to around 10%. That is less than transportation (12-14%) or agriculture (10-14%). So no, coal isn't the main factor and nuclear is not goign to save us. I could post you the sources of my info, but I thought that in order to become a better human being you could learn to do the simpliest of research (I have no fkng clue who gave you your facts on the reach of evils of coal) and check for yourself if these were biased by coal lobby. Coal is fkd up but you are demonizing it.

What interests me though is that Republicans have coal money in their pockets, while Obama was having his war on coal... Aren't you supporting the wrong cause? You see it doesn't hurt to google, instead of listening to some politician jerk who has not fkng clue what he is talking about. His only worry is to keep the polls numbers in check.

One thing is sure: please take my advice: everyone who tells you that he knows who destroys the world and he knows a solution to make world better is full of crap and please don't listen to him.
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 @WAKIdesigns: Worked at a coal plant for years. They operate on a closed loop system, whereas the fuel expended (ash) gets captured in the form of gypsum (which is the drywall used to build your house) and the "emissions" he kept showing is actually nothing more than the steam from cooling the system down.

IE - All the bad pollution he kept showing in that movie was just harmless water vapor. Don't believe the Sierra Club statistics/spin.
  • + 1
 @Thustlewhumber: they do not capture CO2, if that is important.

And most of the pollution is from China.
  • + 1
 These must be some tires, because you guys won't shut the fuck up on this post
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Thanks waki. I enjoyed that over a nice scotch
  • + 1
 @Axxe: Most of the US power plants have CO2 scrubbers on them, and I completely agree that China is a huge pollution offender with little to no controls on anything they do.
  • + 1
 @Thustlewhumber: it's those 1.99$ Margarita shakers they make...
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 I'll just stick to my minions
  • + 4
 Remember those grips?

Never forget
  • + 0
 Cool, but this is about tyres.
  • - 1
 Enduro Competition?
Its comon knowledge that in an Enduro racing format, the narrow tires perform better and roll faster.
  • + 2
 @enrico650: Wrong, actually the opposite is true. Schwalbe did a good article explaining that larger higher volume tires with lower pressure actually have less rolling resistance and are faster. Google it, and try it for yourself.
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 @Twenty6ers4life: schwalbe should have put more money into research of durable sidewalls and knobs that stay in place. They showed that wider tyre on lower pressure rolls better, and compared 2.0 tyre with 2.25 tyre (if I remember correctly) and they never mentioned where's the end to this, or rather threshold of diminishing returns. They cooperated with Syntace to develop wide rim/ large tyre combo. Syntace stated that wide rims should not be operated with tyres that have a channel between center and side knobs as this will promote punctures and rim damage. So yes, all Minion like tyres are out of equation. Good luck with that Hans Dampf and Nobby Nic poop
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I'm running 26+ Rangers, 3.0 front, light grippy and 2.8 light fast rear. I'm not running Schwalbies, I suggested the Schwalbe article to enrico650 so he could see larger tires are more efficient.
  • + 1
 @Twenty6ers4life: the issue is, where is the threshold of diminishing returns? Where does tyre rolling resistance get into conflict with weight dictated by volume and sidewall durability/stability? I do feel better on 2.5" minions vs 2.3 minions but would I be cool with 2.8 minions? I loved the 29+ Stache with 3.0 chupacabras but those very few faster corners made me think, ummm dodgy when trying to load the bike...
  • + 2
 @Twenty6ers4life: I can write an article saying that 3.0 tires are the fastest-growing tire choice of pro riders.And you will find it on google.
THE PODIUM DOESN'T LIE.
When 2.8 tires start winning world cups we will revisit the issue.
  • + 1
 @enrico650: No one said they were winning world cups. My response was to u saying "it's common knowledge that in an Enduro racing format, narrow tires perform better and roll faster" when in fact, that has been proven to be false and the opposite is true. Do your research before u spout BS.
  • + 4
 I'm sensing a few Devry degrees in Armchair Engineering...
  • + 4
 @Twenty6ers4life: let's go to actual facts:
Richie Rude, last year's and the current EWS champion rides on 2.5 minions .
On the no so technical tracks , 2.3 and 2.5
  • + 23
 "WTB has a mind-numbing naming protocol, based upon casing stiffness and rubber compounds that would take a separate article to introduce"

For real @RichardCunningham? Their naming convention seems pretty straight forward to me: light/tough casings; fast rolling/high grip rubber.

Now, compare that to double down, 3c, maxxterra, trailstar, vertstar, snakeskin, etc. that don't tell you anything at all unless you learn what the nomenclature is for that company...
  • + 5
 Less worse?
  • + 13
 Agree, I think WTB's naming system is the most intuitive, easy to understand system in the industry.
  • + 2
 @m-t-g: I remember something intuitive: Climb Trail Descend... Wink
  • + 2
 @RichardCunningham: Ha! I guess, although it still seems straightforward to me.
  • + 20
 WTBs tires are pretty underrated IMO. Maybe they don't make as good super extreme stuff on the DH end of the spectrum but I've always found their trail and XC tires to be amongst the best.
  • + 3
 The Vigilante is the one of the most well-kept secrets in all of MTB. Also happens to be a great wet-roots tire.
  • + 1
 @sevensixtwo: I ❤️ my vigilantes!
  • + 10
 Good work posting this review in the heat of the election. I know i'm doing f#@k all work right now..
  • + 3
 As a huge WTB fan ( breakouts and vigilantes) for regular sizes I found the Ranger to be a huge disappointment for plus. I didn't find the grip mentioned in this article. Went back to Maxxis Icon 2.8's for + and they're so much better IMHO.
  • + 2
 I may have missed it, but sidewall durability? Sounds like way too short of a test for sure. I have two sets of trailblazers and the sidewalls are such weaksauce. They suck at being tubeless as well, but I've been asking a lot from them. #sad about the icons. What about the rekons?
  • + 2
 I have rode both the Ranger 2.8 Light and Fast as well as the Rekon 2.8 Dual compound. Both on the same Easton Heist 30 27.5 wheels. I have had no sidewall durability issues or problems setting up tubeless with either tire. I have no experience with the Ikon.

I only ran the Ranger for a month. It was relatively light and definitely fast with low rolling resistance. I weigh about 190 and had to run the Ranger with 15f/18r psi to keep it from feeling squirrely for general rowdy trail riding. But even at those pressures I'd get an occasional rim strike. In general I did not experience the cornering traction that was referenced in this review. I also did not have any favorable experiences in wet or muddy terrain with the Ranger. They did climb very well and had amazingly low rolling resistance which was super fun on the downs. They were a good tire most of the time, light and fast but there were several situations that they left me wanting more traction. Just so its noted, mine were a different compound and were mounted on a more narrow rim (i30 vs i40) than the ones reviewed here. I wonder if my experiences would have been a lot different with the DNA rubber and/or a wider rim? That all said I did enjoy the tire enough that it solidified my decision to keep my bike converted from a 29 to the B+ format, just with more aggressive tires. Its because its a 29 to B+ conversion that I cant run anything wider than a 2.8 on a i30 rim in the frame though.

So I changed out the Ranger for the Rekon and I am much happier now. I can run the Rekon at 11.5f/16.5r psi on rooty trails with small jumps and drops with no issues. 10f/15r if the ride is more casual. I think I ran them at 17-18f/22r psi at Highland and Killington. I find the Rekon to be much better in the corners both with their sidewall support strength and useful cornering knobs. The Rekon rolls well but they do feel to me like they roll a bit slower than the Ranger, but its very minor. The Rekons are also some of the best tires I've ever rode in wet and muddy conditions.

I can also say that after a month and about 100 miles the Rangers were looking very beat up and the rear had significant wear for such a short period of time. Maybe because I wasn't using the front brake enough as RC suggested in his review. I have spent over twice the time and miles on the Rekon and they look way less worn. I think in the future I will run a 3C Rekon front just for that little added tack on hard wet surfaces like rock faces, roots and bridges.
  • + 2
 @StumpyandhisBike: I highly reccomend the Vee trax fatty 27.5 X 3.0 for a rear tire. It is a touch narrower than their claimed 3" width, and the sidewall is super durable. My first one lasted 6 months tubeless with no flats. Ran it till it was bald in the center, and finally started slowly leaking where one knob tried to rip off.
Once you go (mid) fat, you don't go back!
  • + 2
 I want so badly to like WTB's plus offerings...but experience just won't let me. Given our trails are pretty damn rocky and loose, I've killed Trailblazer, Trail Boss, and Bridger sidewalls within a month of use. 4+ months on Specialized and Maxxis plus sized rubber and no problems. WTB treads are rad, but the sidewalls just don't hold up to low pressures and rocks IME. *edited cuz I can't fokin spell*
  • + 0
 don't those + tires weigh more?
  • + 3
 @scottzg: They don't seem to, which might be part of the problem. I've had issues with cutting WTB sidewalls as well, & I'm such a careful/lucky rider that I couldn't even tell you the last time I cut a sidewall before that.

This tire is 70g lighter than the new e*thirteen 2.35s, in similar compound.
  • + 2
 You try the Enduro or Tough casings? I've been impressed w/ these Rangers in Tough and the Vigilante in Enduro/Tough casing. Comes at a weight penalty and suppleness but when you need strength - a solid choice.
  • + 1
 @scottzg: No, they have a lighter casing so the tire is supple and conforms to the trail. If u read the article the 27.5+ weights 854g. And My 26+ weighed 780g.
  • + 1
 I've never read a 3.0 tire review that didn't come with a bunch of caveats. Maybe 3.0 tires just aren't that great for regular MTBing. To me they seem good for climbing ugly stuff and that's pretty much it. I know from my experience 3.0 tires the disadvantages, figuratively and literally, out weigh the advantages.
  • + 2
 Three inch tires are an option, but you need to mount them to 40 or 45mm rims to get enough support in the turns. Not every plus bike comes with rims that wide.
  • + 2
 @RichardCunningham: Thinking of experimenting with 27.5+ on my 29. I have a set of 27mm rims...too narrow to experiment with a 2.8?
  • + 3
 @RichardCunningham: Some three inch tires are better than others, but I've found on the Chronicles and Nobby Nics I've ridden extensively they are just to fat, as in fat bike fat. Self steer, weight etc. really start to work against you. I've rolled around on Rocket Rons and they seem to be the most like a traditional tire, but haven't put enough time on enough terrain to really know. Would be a little wary of them and their non-existent sideknobs, though. Maybe a 2.8 feels very different. I'm keen to try them out. 2.6 is really looking ideal, but we'll have to see on those too. For me, anything far above 800grams and the weight is a problem on climbs.
  • + 2
 @RichardCunningham: For real. I feel the big S is half-assing it by speccing their standard i30-ish rims on the 6fattie. I assume they're doing this for weight savings, but it's a half measure. They've gotta be working on an i40 Roval wheelset. I demoed a Hightower with Rekon's on i40 rims and it was glorious, though I'm sure my psi was too high which helped with support but felt a little too firm at times.
  • + 1
 @krisrayner: That's why it's called an experiment. I say give it a shot, IF it'll clear your frame and fork which it may not. Winter's a great time to tinker but maybe buy just one tire first to check the clearance!
  • + 2
 Awesome tire. I also have a pair of 2.8 NN's and I switched the rear NN out for the Ranger because when it gets wet the NN is crazy scary on roots/rocks. 2.8 NN front / 2.8 Ranger rear has been awesome for me so far.
  • + 2
 I put the 26 x 2.8 out back of my Surly Gator with a Dirt Wizard up front on Stans Hugo rims. Love the tire, the rim not so much.
  • + 1
 Are you finding enough sidewall support in hard corners with the DW? 27tpi or 120tpi?
  • + 1
 Would like to test in wetter conditions of kinlochleven next weekend but CRC not got them in yet, get me some before thursday would get a good test, or is it a better SoCal Tyre
  • + 4
 "authentic mountain bikes" - I SAW that, RC.
  • + 3
 soon everybody will realize that the 26"+ wheel size is the best.
  • + 1
 I hope so! I've been on them for about a year now, and they are awesome! I love em! I'll never go back.
  • + 3
 If i get this right, these are for "dead sailor" type of riders ?
  • + 4
 It can be a crutch for less skilled riders, or they can help a very skilled rider to take their riding to another level of fun and confidence. I am in the second camp.
  • + 1
 Hey RC - how about a list or table of fork options that these bigger volume tires will fit into. I don't want to buy one and find out it wont fit in my 2012 29er Talus
  • + 3
 Yeah great tires, but seriously F**k you Trump!!!
  • - 1
 I'm amazed at how much someone can write about bike tires in an article. If it were me there would just be a standard rated list of parameters like: smoothness, traction on a bunch of different surfaces, rolling resistance, bump absorbtion, etcetera, each with machine instrumented measurements. Otherwise it's just some guy's opinion.
  • - 1
 I'm not saying their opinion is worthless, I'm sure they're extremely well versed in mountain bikes, but it would be nice to just look at a chart, and find the qualities you're looking for, instead of going on a witch hunt.
  • + 2
 I wonder how many 26" frames can actually fit one of these 2.8's Come on PB, lets have some more info.
  • + 3
 26x2.8 is alternative for bikes that fit 27.5x2.35 tires.
  • + 3
 I just fitted an X-Fusion Metric on my 26" bik and the Magic Mary on there at the moment has massive clearance all round it. I'm going to try a Plus tyre, but what I really want is something about 2.6" but isn't built like a downhill tyre.
  • + 1
 Oops, double post.
  • + 3
 @DokonjoDaikon: You have to check that there is clearance when you bottom out as well. Sometimes you can fit bigger tire in the arch but you can't run them because they are too tall for full travel. For 2017 a bunch of new 2.6 light weight tires will be coming out from Maxxis, Schwalbe and Specialized. Whether or not they will be made available in 26 is another question...
  • + 1
 @DokonjoDaikon: The new minions (2.8's) measure out to about 2.6" on ~i30 rims (66mm). That might be a good option.
  • + 1
 @patrick2cents: I had a feeling that might be the case! It's marked as 71mm wide...
Well I guess I'll still buy the new DHR II in 26x2.8 seeing as it is 400g lighter than a Magic Mary 2.5 with DH casing!
  • + 1
 2012 Santa Cruz Blur fits them
  • + 1
 People of SoCal tyre review, maybe but if you would like me to test some in wetter rocky conditions of kinlochleven next weekend i will write a review of them there
  • + 2
 As our new Commander and Chief say's

"Just grab them by the pusssy and you can do anything!!"
  • + 3
 Swap tyres from Maxxis if you like 6 months in hospital - simple really
  • + 3
 screw those PlusTyres .. i want more 2,5 tyres
  • + 1
 I'm about to pull the trigger on a Genesis Tarn 20 2017 and this tyre is on that bike so thanks Pinkbike.
  • + 2
 I usually toss the tire when it gets that low...
  • + 3
 third. I'm third (:
  • + 2
 @therealtylerdurden: that long hair dont cover that red neck boyyy
  • + 1
 Very simliar ride to the specialized ground control
  • + 1
 this tire is for those who voted trump
  • + 3
 You mean the wide and rather heavy voter?
  • + 1
 2.8 26" hot damn its 2002 again.
  • + 1
 Just purchased the 26x2.8... excited to see if they fit.
  • + 2
 3.0= fat tire?
  • + 1
 It's confusing times, 2.8, 3.0 = plus size? 2.5, 2.7= normal size?
  • + 3
 2.6 - 2.7" = Baby Fat
  • + 2
 @MmmBones: Wouldn't it have been awesome if the bike industry made some [2.6, 2.7, 2.8,] x26 tires before they went straight to 650B?
  • + 1
 @burnadette: Hit the rewind button about 15 yrs and you'll find they did. Go back almost a century further and you'll find 26-29" wheels with 2-5" tires and Geometron esque wheelbases with funny little motors clamped to the frame - media.gettyimages.com/photos/walter-davidson-the-first-president-of-the-harley-davidson-motor-picture-id514693346 - It's almost like were going around in circles and them revolutions keeps inching us forward, or something.
  • + 2
 @MmmBones: I just want to have more clearance between tire and frame.
  • + 1
 This is a bike site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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