First Ride: Giant Trance Advanced SX
Giant has made it clear they are fully committed to 27.5” wheels, revamping their mountain bike line to focus almost entirely on the in-between size for 2014. We first caught wind of this change earlier in the year when Giant unveiled a prototype version of the Trance that their Factory Off-Road Team had been testing and competing on. Now, just about six months later, the bike has made it to production, with several different frame and component configurations available. To get an initial impression of the bike's capabilities we took the Trance Advanced SX model out onto the rocky trails of Moab, Utah.
| Trance Advanced SX details • Intended use: trail / all-mountain • Carbon front triangle, aluminum rear • Rear wheel travel: 140mm • Wheel size: 27.5" • Weight: 28lb (claimed) • Head angle: 66 degrees • MSRP: $6400 USD |
Frame and Component DetailsThe Trance Advanced has a carbon fiber front triangle attached to an aluminum rear triangle by two aluminum links, part of Giant's Maestro suspension layout. Maestro is a twin link, four bar suspension configuration that's designed to remain active even under heavy braking while being fairly resistant to pedal bob. No pivots are necessary on the rear triangle, which helps increase frame stiffness, as does the brace that attaches the seatstays to the chainstays.
All of the bikes in the Trance lineup share the same amount of rear travel (140mm), but the Trance Advanced models get a carbon fiber front triangle instead of aluminum. The bikes in the SX series are equipped with 160mm of front suspension, which slackens the head angle to a downhill-friendly 66 degrees. With suspension well-suited to a high end all-mountain rig, the Trance Advanced SX comes spec'd with Fox's 34 Talas CTD fork (adjustable between
140 and 160mm of travel) in the front and a Float X shock in the rear. SRAM's X01 1 by 11 drivetrain simplifies shifting by doing away with the front derailleur, and the front chainring's X-SYNC tooth profile means a chainguide isn't necessary, although ISCG 05 tabs are in place just in case. Schwalbe handles the tire duties, with the popular Hans Dampf 2.35 in the front and a Rock Razor 2.35 in the rear, although the bike we rode had a Nobby Nic in the rear. While the drivetrain, suspension, and brakes are handled by SRAM and Fox, we were a little surprised by how much of the build kit is comprised of house brand components - the bike's wheels, seat, stem, dropper post, and the handlebar are all taken care of by Giant.
The carbon front triangle has internal cable routing, including stealth routing for the Giant's Contact Switch dropper post. SRAM's X01 drivetrain has a 32 tooth front chainring and a 10-42 tooth rear cassette, providing a wide enough range to conquer the steepest of climbs without spinning out on the way down. First ImpressionsMany of the trails around Moab are comprised of sandstone ledges of various sizes, like a flight of stairs out of a Salvador Dali painting. The Trance Advanced SX proved to be a nimble climber, digging in and clawing at the ground to provide the traction needed to propel the bike up and over the red rocks. The rear suspension is fairly active, especially when standing up and really powering down on the pedals, but flipping the lever on the Float X shock to Trail mode helped to calm things down. Although the Trance comes equipped with a TALAS fork, we didn't end up using the travel adjust feature, although we see it coming in handy on sustained, steep climbs.
On the downhills the Trance SX rewards a smoother riding style as opposed to the smash and bash, monster truck-like approach. That's not to say the bike can't handle rough terrain, far from it, it's just that a little more finesse and forethought will make for a much smoother and enjoyable ride. The bike handled well at speed, and it was easy to get airborne when necessary to clear little rock gardens or to transfer from one side of the trail to the other. Even though there is a 20mm travel difference between the fork and shock, the bike still felt balanced, and it never felt like the rear shock was trying to play catch up to the front, even on larger drops. With a well-rounded blend of climbing and descending abilities, it's not surprising that members of the Giant Factory Off-Road Team use this as their bike of choice for enduro racing, and we could see it being a popular choice for riders who put in the miles to earn their descents.
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lilshredman $10 says I get way more than you do. we can go by riding skill, # of followers, the bikes we own, intelligence, eloquence, social skills, anything... I win.
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And once again (it's been said hundred times here) - journos test bikes, they are given to test, so if Giant decides to send 6k bike to Mike, or invite hom to a press camp with such bikes, he has no chance of testing a cheaper one aye?
The only thing I can complain on, is companies arranging test sessions in places like Moab or Sedona. Most people, including PB home area, live in places with terrain, surface and weather as far from the desert as it can be. Different horses for different courses right? Then dear industry invite journos to courses in temperate climate zones.
Thank you
PB on the other hand pretends to be an informative site. Kids base their choice of equipment on what is said on here and with only high end models being reviewed they get the impression you need a 4k plus bike to have fun. Which is completely off, based on the budget of an average 17 y/o my advice would be to buy an SLX level bike with proper suspension and spend the rest of their paper route money on road trips and riding in general because ultimately that's what it's all about.
Ever read Dirt Magazine? Or Singletrack? Both of them regularly review bikes at any pricepoint.
The only reason I can see for that, and this might be a little cynical, is that they see it as cheap but effective advertising (how often do you see negative online reviews?). Often the entire range of a certain model is promoted through ads showing the high end build.
If you want affordable go to Walmart , if you want performance then get a f*cking job ?
When you get into the sport you are fully aware of this...
Do what every one else does who can't afford some thing , either save for it , get credit , or keep dreaming.
Why should I even bother answering your question when it's
a) irrelevant to the discussion and
b) impolite?
I think the line "rewards a smoother riding style as opposed to the smash and bash" sums up this bike for me.
Have any recent bikes in 650b been smash & bash?
Maybe I should have kept my Reign??
ROUGHLY WHAT DID IT WEIGH??
take this as a overview of the trance range, and as people have said, even the 1300 quid model has a tapered steerer, 15mm thru axle front, press fit BB. its an awesome bike, the bits you want bolted to it are your choice, personally i ride pretty hard and if i smash a deore mech off its a bitch, but taking out a sram X0 would really hurt my wallet.
In all, whatever spec, i reckon they've got this years trance spot on and very happy with my cheaper spec.
As for the car magazine articles, yes they test high end cars but there are tons of reviews on low end and average priced cars.
"On the downhills the Trance SX rewards a smoother riding style as opposed to the smash and bash, monster truck-like approach. That's not to say the bike can't handle rough terrain, far from it, it's just that a little more finesse and forethought will make for a much smoother and enjoyable ride."
I'm pretty sure if smash and bash is your thing, you're not looking for a smoother ride...
Yeti sb66 - very similar setup, Bronson might as well be identical, and single pivots, good luck with pedal feedback. Arguably the maestro design is better than all of the above. A Pivot/DW-link, that's a different story, but the maestro system is about as close to DW as it gets
Nonetheless let's not forget it's a trail bike.
This bike seems confused. On the one hand it has high end gear, but on the other it has house junk. Big travel bike, big wheels, yet rewards smoother line choices.
Half carbon, half aluminum.
Giant replaced the 26" bike with this?
Really...
The rear is aluminium because the weight savings were something like 40-60 grams. Also, there are quite thin stays on the rear triangle that were susceptible to cracking on their original carbon rear triangles. I guess those are the reasons Giant only use aluminum on the rear.
If you want balanced suspension, the 'normal' Trance has the same frame but with a smaller fork. The big fork I expect is aimed at the Enduro crowd - who tend to run more travel on the front than the rear.
What "house junk" are you refering to? The Contact Switch is a good as any other dropper post - I've had one for years. I am waiting for the new internally routed ones to be available aftermarket to replace my dead Joplin on another bike. I used to buy aftermarket bar but the Giant bars are perfectly fine. We both know that most of those $150 aftermarket bars are because of the name and some green anodizing, not because one extruded alumunum pipe is that much better than another when made by folk who know what they are doing.
For example: my full carbon bike came with house junk, that I immediately replaced and upgraded( stem, dropper,seat, grips and carbon bar). Even with the upgrades and sales tax, the Mojo HD was cheaper than the Giant.
When I lived in California I saw EVERY Mojo that went through my LBS crack. Full carbon is not always superior.
I own this bike (and it is surprisingly good value!)
The wheel set on this bike weighs 1640g! It also rolls on rebranded DT Swiss 240 hubs.
If you think that is house junk check the weights of ENVE, Mavic etc wheel sets and get back to me.
Also, try find another bike that runs XO1, factory kashima, 4-pot elixirs etc for this price.
The Giant frame designs are some of the most reliable, resilient, light and strong frames on the market. I've worked at a shop for years and we've sold SC, Yeti, Cannondale, Pivot etc. The least problematic bikes of all are the Giants.
PS I know the actual manufacturing cost for the frame is low, but shipping, marketing, R&D, warehousing, warranties, assembly, etc gets really pricey really fast
It's concerning to me that the forks that are intended for "all mountain" use use smaller diameter stanchions, lowers and axles than the fork I use that has undergone crown/stanchion unit replacement 4 times now.
Are these forks designed as "all mountain, but only for one season?" They seem to be throw away items. Maybe I'm wrong and as so many have said, the problem I've experienced "is not structural" (ha ha ha).
I swapped the 70mm stem for a 60mm. I swapped the 730mm bars for Carbon eastons at 750mm. I swapped the contact post for a stealth reverbs nd am going to upgrade to KS 6" integer post. Swapped the X9 trail brakes for XO trail cuz I already had them.
Best trail rig I've ever owned and I've had 5 trail-rigs in 8 years....I seem to break every frame I own.
RS lyric front/ monarch plus rear
lower end sram drivetrain
dropper post
Same schwable tires
The reign x is still cheaper at $5800
I know its not carbon but more bike for less money.
do a 3 way review best bike under $2000 kona precept vs giant trance 3 vs norco fluid 7.2
I just bought a new bike, my budget was ~2k so that woulda been cool
@kevin267... magazines test what is provided to them to test, so if you want to see such a 3 way comparison, provide the pinkbike writers/editors with those bikes to test.
I personally think their hydraulic seatpost is one of the best house brand post out there. I guess perhaps drive up to canada and buy it at canadian msrp??? lol