The Torque:On is a brand new addition to Canyon's lineup, a 27.5”-wheeled, motorized freeride machine that's aimed at riders who are focused on the descents, but don't have a chairlift or shuttle truck readily available. The aluminum bike has 175mm of rear travel that's paired with a 180mm fork, and geometry that's significantly longer and slacker than the non-motorized Torque.
Shimano's new EP8 motor powers the Torque:On, with 85 Nm of peak torque that makes it a whole lot easier to get to the top. Canyon chose to go with the smaller 504 wH battery in order to help keep the overall bike weight a little lower, although at 53 pounds it's still not exactly a lightweight.
Torque:On Details• Travel: 175mm rear / 180mm fork
• Wheel size: 27.5"
• Aluminum frame
• Shimano EP8 motor
• 504 Wh battery
• 63.5-degree head angle
• 430mm chainstays
• MSRP: 4,499 € - 6,299 €
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www.canyon.com For riders that want to go longer than one battery will last, there are models available that come with a spare. The thinking is that riders can take laps until one battery is drained, pause for a quick battery swap back at the car, and then head out for more riding.
Key geometry numbers include a slack, 63.5-degree head angle, a 485mm reach on a size large, and short, 430mm chainstays. It is a little surprising to see that all models are spec'd with a 150mm dropper post, and that the seat tube lengths are a little longer than what's fast becoming the norm, measuring 460mm on a large. On a bike like this, I'd imagine that most riders will want their seat as far out of the way as possible when descending. I haven't ridden this bike, so I don't want to nitpick
too much, but it's also worth noting that the 74-degree seat tube angle does create a fairly long top tube length.
There are two Torque:On models, the 9 and the 8. The 8 has a Shimano SLX 12-speed drivetrain with an XT derailleur, SLX brakes, a RockShox Zeb R fork and SuperDeluxe Select R shock, and DT Swiss H1900 wheels. It's priced at 4.499 €, or 4.999 € with an extra battery. The 8 is the only model that Canyon USA will carry, and it'll go for $5,399 USD.
The 9 is priced at 5,799 € or 6,299 € with an extra battery, and has a parts kit with highlights that include a SRAM GX Eagle 12-speed drivetrain, Fox 38 Factory fork and Factory Float X2 shock, SRAM Code RSC brakes, and DT Swiss H1700 wheels.
Spectral:OnThe Spectral:On has been updated for 2021 with Shimano's EP8 motor and a 630 Wh battery, giving it more torque and a longer range than before. The rest of the details remain unchanged - it's a carbon framed, 150mm bike with a 29" front wheel and 27.5" rear aimed at trail riders, as opposed to the gravity fiends that the Torque was made for.
The Spectral:On's geometry numbers remain on the conservative side, especially when they're put next to the non-motorized Spectral that was released earlier this year - that bike has a head angle that's 2-degrees slacker, and a reach that's 20mm longer. On the trail, the :On's figures create a bike with relatively quick handling, especially on more rolling terrain, although its limits do start to become apparent in steeper terrain.
There are four complete models of the Spectral:On, with prices ranging from $5,5500 to $8,500 USD, or 4,599 € to 7,599 €.
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This isnt far off the mark...better Zeb fork, DD tyres, big battery
How any company could release something with less than 700 wHr right now is beyond me. Especially since the Shimano motors eat battery vs Specialized. Did a ride yesterday with a friend on a Shimano setup with a 503 wHr battery. We both rode the same modes for the entire ride, same weight riders, etc. He finished with the red light blinking, I finished with 59% battery left on my 700 wHr. No way there should have been that big of a difference, but that has been consistent across all of my friends with Shimano EP7's.
It's more sad that people want to isht on something they know nothing about just because it doesn't fit their narrative.
Ive demoed lots of ebikes, its just as important.
with the seat too far back its harder to climb very steep sections as the front will wander very very easily with all that torque.
That said, the 165mm cranks caught be by surprise, and I smashed those cranks a LOT more often than expected, even running recommended sag. And again at my height this so called XL frame seems to have been left in the dryer too long: the 485 reach is more like large+ in my book. I’d like to see Canyon add an XXL option, with more BB clearance, and a 515ish reach as the short nature of the bike, including stays and slack SA, means my gangly frame sits a bit too far back on this chassis. Also, the 150mm travel Kashima dropper is a bit laughable. First, who needs that coating on a dropper, and second why’s an “XL” have such a short post? Too much is showing above the tall-looking seat mast when fully dropped. I’m undecided on wheels. These Reynolds carbons are stout as hell but i wonder about long-term durability.
In sum if this was available with the EP8 motor, 630W batt, non-series Shimano 4 pot brakes, SLX drivetrain, 210mm dropper, a Pike and a Super Deluxe or FOX equivalents, I’d happily throw down. It’s a damn blast.
Happy to field your questions.
I'll take an e bike over a slow bike or truck shuttle any day of the week. I'll also have less environmental impact than the truck and do twice as many DH laps as a slow bike.
or non-lazy rippers older than you with worse knees want to send.
not there yet, but by the time I am I won't be giving two sh*ts about adding a motor.
At least there are plenty of other brands who know what they're up to.
Ep8 is below Bosch and others in terms of power delivery and is good to see other riders passing by at uphills
And finally in 6/7 months the prices rises a lot in a bike with wrong geometry that will be rectified in next future (or not )
But they sold everything so they can contnue to have wrong bikes and bad support to customers My attemps to speak to them was like speak with a wall
There is no reason whatsoever to have a front 27.5 wheel. especially on a heavy ebike
As it stands, I just cant get an ebike. The lines are just so clumsy and just wrong.
The designers must just be giving birth to these things and just assuming that everyone wants to compromise and ride f^& ugly bikes. It is not their best work.
Please sort before my next purch.
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