Cheers for some more of the expert opinions regarding my flat tire guys. heres some fun facts... - Specialized has done leaps and bounds to get our tires to the next level, and what we are running now is freaking awesome. - stage 3 saw a LOT of flat tires, flat Maxxis, flat Schwalbe, Flat Michelin, Flat Hutchinson, flat any brand imaginable, if you would have seen the stage you would understand, No tire is immune to flatting, - Between 2 ply tires and Cushcore, and sealant I have 1600g worth of weight mounted to my rims (not including the rim) - im certainly no weight weenie, as some guys have mentioned, my bike is set up to finish the race. - signing for specialized for the fat pay check, nice one, if you think I have anything in mind except WINNING you are mistaken.... cheers!
I remember back in the 90s Specialized has some tires don't remember the name Ground Control or something that has in the sidewalls a strip of rubber called Iron Curtain and riding DH with that tire I never had a flat but I don't know about newest Spec tires and casing.
For me racing today is the ability to adapt to the ground and most of the time ride heavier casing tires with less pressure to have some grip and finish the race. Is sad that Specialized or Jared and mechanic are not finding the best spot since Jared is having a lot of flats... Hope someone somewhere find a ultimate way to not flat a mtb tire...
to much tubeless, double down and procore stuff and still to much flats. I am not having flats but seeing racers doing flat all the time is strange.
PB commenter who rides intermediate trails once a week, never raced Enduro and has never seen an EWS course that wasn't on a computer screen: "ACTUALLY......"
Thank you Jared for the reply,there's no better way to explain everything. It was me calling you a weightweenie,I guess I had that (wrong) impression from your 4X days. Have a healthy and sucessful season!
So you were winning when you were riding for Yeti, so if winning is all you want then how come you havent asked yeti to come back. Nothing else has changed but the bike your riding and your not posting the same results. Soooooo explain why you haven't gone back.
Sorry bro but the stats don't lie and this attempt to make the big S look better is a bit lame imo... Nice of you to come out here but you've had WAY more flats over the last 2 years than most riders... They might better now but base on my own experience, the current crop of tires in stores isnt nearly as puncture resistent than the competition...Hopefully those magical tires your are running ( and still puncture;-)) will be in store soon with a decent price tag on them
@tuumbaq: He may have had flats last year but the tires do seem better now. Grid's aren't bad if you're not going Graves speed but I agree that they need DH sidewall 29" tires for sale regardless of weight.
Oh and Jesse weighs as much as Jared's left leg yet he had major issues with Maxxis.
Shit tons of luck involved and that's one of the many downsides of Enduro.
How did Oton place 3rd and Callaghan WIn? I haven't seen stage 4 results for either day; but what is showing, Oton beat him in every stage?? Anyone????
I know you do a lot of testing on your bike and all to prepare for the races and all but what I do when I get a flat I fix it then put 2-3 psi more than I was running until it never ever ever happens. It just seems like you've been flatting a lot lately and it kinda makes the tires you run look untrustworthy (I know everyone gets flats but it seems like it happens to you more often than most)! I just feel like I ride at least half as much as you do (granted at 1/3 of the speed) but flat maybe once every 2 months. I know ill get down voted Im just shocked when I here yall are getting like 4 flats in a race I'm like what the hell man just pump those puppies up more and you won't have to deal with it.
@tuumbaq: I don't get why people negative prop the facts. Numbers don't lie. Not only flats, but his times are down, and his injuries are up. Go ahead and negative prop this but facts are facts.
In other words, Jared, thank you for weighing in here. It is really cool to hear from one of the best and most experienced right here in the comments section of PB. Its great to see the hard work paying off.
do people really think they know better than this guy? he's a vet, and has proven many times he's an elite rider. flat tyres can get you at the randomest of times, fix it and carry on (or if you're a pro just carry on coz you get free wheels haha)
@bbk7: I definetly don't think I know more than Jared f****** Graves I was just kinda wanting to find out at what point when hes testing he says ya know what with this pressure I'm gonna flat sometimes if I mess up or whatever but that's worth it because if I go any higher I'm sacrificing traction
@fracasnoxteam: hahaha that was an exaggeration ill bet there are times when I go at least 2/3 his speed, and probably like 5/6 his speed when he has a flat
Spot on. The average PB commentator also rides at half the pace of the pros or less so their tyres take half as much strain. It's a different world muchachos.
"if you think I have anything in mind except WINNING you are mistaken" - this is what everyone adding their opinion on how not to flat needs to think about. Maybe you can add 2 PSI more pressure, maybe you can run even thicker tyres...but on every slick corner and every uphill pedal you could lose fractions of a second, and over 2 days if you lose 20 seconds you are off the podium, let alone WINNING.
I think the number of flats this weekend further proves my theory that enduro racing is going to move toward adaptive tire pressure techniques, with riders releasing or pumping up their tires at the bottom of a stage in preparation for the next one. Riders would decide the pressures they wanted on stages in practicing and then for stages like stage 3 madiera for example, be adding pressure to their tires to avoid flats, which appear to be a far greater deterrent to podium finishes than even lack of skill. Just a theory however.
@jaredgraves: for me it is cuz I'm not as serious about racing as you and I don't like fixing flats. Just an average joe ya know. Thank you so much for replying though!! Are you racing the Big Mountain Enduro in Santa Fe?
Noticed Keegan Wright nearly won stage 4. Second by less than one second. Put solid time into most of the pros. He's a serious young talent from NZ. When he puts a full race weekend together he'll be on the podium. Hopefully one of the big teams takes notice and signs him to a full pro deal.
I wonder what happend to Thomas Lapeyrie. He won the first stage, came second on the second stage and then lost about a minute and a half on stage three.
@KiwiXC: Sadly I think that deal with Speacilized is just a local NZ deal. Definitely not a factory deal just yet. I imagine it comes down to how his international season goes. Winning an EWS stage would definitely help. His local results proved he has speed. Stage four against the EWS pros just proved he has the speed to beat the best in the world.
Dailly is way underrated. Raced U21 with him last year and no one seemed to take notice even then he was getting times in the top 10 in pro. He's a seriously quick rider and I have my money on him for the overall.
@tblore: you got Ben Shemen 20 minutes from you. However, for steeper trails you should go north to Mishmar Haemek (about an hour drive) or reat to the sugar trail
PB as official media from EWS I think you should gives us complete results of everey stage... At least a link... Also brief resume would be apreciated... Damn this is the true series to follow and is hard to follow the information... I think we could get better more instantanious... This sport deserves it.
It seems that Noga Korem is rapidly emerging as a podium contender at each round this year. Last round in Tassie PB had some close ups of her bike. Nice to see a second from top of range 2016 Giant Reign in near stock form on a podium. Not bad for a bike I bought at end of season prices for $4750 Aud. Never has been "all about the bike". Now I just have to remember this when I'm upgrading my new Rocky Mountain Altitude.......
Any news on Sam Hill? I get the feeling he's holding back and going to throw the kitchen sink at it tomorrow. He did the same in Tassie, held back the first half of the race then came from a fair way back to take a podium. Watch his space.
Apparently he had a problem with his foreskin retracting at the start of one of the longer stages and suffered with some serious chafing all the way down which slowed him down.
Graves has had so many flats it's stunning the team haven't done something drastic to solve it. It's either his style of riding or something to do with his Specialized tires. Given the truly insane amount of flats Specialized's XC racers have had over the past year, I'd say it's tire related. If you wrote a list of all the international level events lost in the last year with Specialized XC tires, it'd be a long list. Same story with Graves. He's either crashed or punctured on many occasions while in the hunt for a win. The Specialized tires seem to be regularly letting down the athletes. No pun intended...
@Ketzal: As you say, its tyres isn't it, Graves didn't seem to get as many on Maxxis and he doesn't seem like a smash / pound kind of rider like some of the other guys.
Does he run a proto casing? The standard Specialized Grid (I think that's right?) casing is fine for my kind of aggro trail riding but wouldn't cut it riding DH course style terrain, especially at his kind of pace!
Graves always have been a bit of a weightweenie when it comes to tires,and has paid the price for it many times. Most notoriously,loosing the 4X worlds at Canberra with a blown tire when in the lead.
@nozes: Time to learn from that, no point having a light bike if you cant finish, especially as enduro isn't a single stage race, its all about consistency and you cant have that without a reliable bike.
Pros don't ride for specialized because they want to win, they are just looking for sweet pay check. But with all the injuries you will incure by racing one there will be plenty of vacation time as well.
@nozes: He's always been the opposite. He doesn't look at build weights, and has always said "build the bike for what it's intended to do, it'll build to whatever weight is necessary."
@nozes: I doubt this is becauso of light tires. graves was a lot beefier during is 4x days and used to snap hardtail frames in the gate. as far as I know he had zero race flats while on the ews with maxxis.
@Zaff: Thats right, Graves in an interview only last year said bike weight is irrelevant. I doubt he'll be sacrificing tyre durability for weight. Not many people in Perth WA use Specialized tyres as they are as thick as rice paper and don't last on our rocky trails. Maxxis all the way..
Damn it! I think coverage is getting worse from race to race. Yeah, great epic photos and all but is it really so hard for someone to stand by the track with a camera on eg. stage 3 if there was such carnage and film some action and put it on the net?? I really dont need epic slowmo shots with crappy music of three riders on three sections! Everybody is all in on who was seen on 29er on DH race! F$#$ you!!!!!! Ride your bike!
@RedBurn: Ive riden a bit less than 2km dh course, took me atleast 6mins(probably less than 3mins by a pro), and my hands hurts like hell. Cant imagine doing a 9-min(for a pro) course at that pace.
- Specialized has done leaps and bounds to get our tires to the next level, and what we are running now is freaking awesome.
- stage 3 saw a LOT of flat tires, flat Maxxis, flat Schwalbe, Flat Michelin, Flat Hutchinson, flat any brand imaginable, if you would have seen the stage you would understand, No tire is immune to flatting,
- Between 2 ply tires and Cushcore, and sealant I have 1600g worth of weight mounted to my rims (not including the rim)
- im certainly no weight weenie, as some guys have mentioned, my bike is set up to finish the race.
- signing for specialized for the fat pay check, nice one, if you think I have anything in mind except WINNING you are mistaken....
cheers!
It was me calling you a weightweenie,I guess I had that (wrong) impression from your 4X days.
Have a healthy and sucessful season!
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Oh and Jesse weighs as much as Jared's left leg yet he had major issues with Maxxis.
Shit tons of luck involved and that's one of the many downsides of Enduro.
It's about half an hour from Jaffa by car.
However, for steeper trails you should go north to Mishmar Haemek (about an hour drive) or reat to the sugar trail
כל הכבוד תותחיתתתתתת !!
The podium is calling you and we know you are going to reach it
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Does he run a proto casing? The standard Specialized Grid (I think that's right?) casing is fine for my kind of aggro trail riding but wouldn't cut it riding DH course style terrain, especially at his kind of pace!
as far as I know he had zero race flats while on the ews with maxxis.
Everybody is all in on who was seen on 29er on DH race! F$#$ you!!!!!! Ride your bike!
On the podium- f!"$king yeh
Thanks