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Positive Covid Cases at Olympics Up to 62, Number of Athletes & Staff in Quarantine Increases

Jul 19, 2021
by Alicia Leggett  
When these rings shows everybody know something big and special is comming. It s the motiv why athletes train so hard and prepare themselfs four years to make their dreams come true.

More than 22,000 accredited Olympic athletes and other support personnel have arrived in Tokyo from abroad since the beginning of July. Of those, 29 have now tested positive for Covid-19, bringing the total number of positive cases connected with the Olympics to 62, the BBC reported.

Most of the positive cases have been identified at the initial round of testing when athletes first arrived in Tokyo. Unfortunately, some athletes and staff who initially tested negative later tested positive, so the virus has now entered the Olympic village just days before the start of the Games.

Two South African soccer players became the first athletes to test positive in the athletes’ village along with the team’s video analyst. 21 other South African athletes and staff have been identified as close contacts and all are quarantining in their rooms. They have been tested for Covid daily, and as long as they continue to test negative, they will be allowed to keep training in a close contact bubble before their first match next Thursday.

A few days earlier, an unidentified person who is not believed to be an athlete, was the first person to test positive within the village, which officials had previously said would be the safest place in Tokyo.

Now, the cases seem to be piling up. A rugby coach from South Africa, a beach volleyball player from the Czech Republic, a U.S. tennis player, and an alternate on the U.S. gymnastics team have all tested positive.

Six British athletes and two staff members were required to self-isolate after encountering an individual, unrelated to the team, who was infected with Covid on their flight to Tokyo. Although each of them tested negative upon arriving in Tokyo, they have just recently been cleared to train in an isolation bubble and hope to return to regular training tomorrow.

The entire Australian Olympic team also quarantined after an official received an inconclusive test upon arrival to Tokyo. After multiple subsequent tests came back negative, the team was cleared for training and competition.

Dr. Brian McCloskey, who oversees the Olympics health measures, said all the positive tests are exactly what he expected to see. “If I thought that all the tests that we did were going to be negative then I wouldn't bother doing the tests in the first place,” he said.

We’ll keep you updated if we learn of any mountain bikers affected by positive tests or isolation mandates ahead of their competitions on July 26th and 27th.

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 Track and Field this year being replaced by Track and Trace?
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 I like it
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 New track and field event: the jab-elin throw
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 The shot-put event is taking on new meaning this year.
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 Am I the only one who has soured on the Olympics in the last number of years?

Corrupt back door construction contracts to firms silently owned by politicians
False economic promises by the IOC leaving some cities financially stunted
Racists remarks to nations and their athletes,
The IOC dictating what is a sport and what is not

The Olympics started out as an event "in the name of sport" for "the youth of the world" and "fair competition" and unfortunately is now far from that.
  • 50 0
 @lastminutetech: Stopped watching after the 1900 Paris Summer Olympics pigeon massacre.
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 @lastminutetech: it is big step in athlete’s career
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 Synchronised Swabbing.
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 @lastminutetech: I think you should dive into the Olympics history of you think any of that is a recent phenomenon
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 Best Olympics Ever?
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 @lastminutetech: don't forget a bunch of old, white dudes using it to fund luxury lifestyles, and continually adding marginal, pseudo-sports in an effort to chase likes and subscribes.

1. Build a permanent olympic venue somewhere and use it every cycle
2. Eliminate all judged events that don't have a definitive winner
  • 5 0
 @plyawn: The late MLK Jr. is certainly turning in his grave these days...
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 @plyawn: 100% in favour of removing all sports that require judging. Results should be measurable.
  • 164 33
 Gee, it's almost like it was a bad idea to have a huge event with people flying in from all parts of the world during a pandemic
  • 46 2
 Hey at least we can go to Whistler again on August 9th!
  • 4 2
 @suspended-flesh: wait really?
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 @nvranka: with proof of double vaccines and a covid antibody test Americans can visit starting on the 9th. Other countries have to wait until September
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I did not read anything about an 'antibody test' though - just skimmed it.
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Quote below from the news story up here, it said molecular test, not antibody

"Those crossing the border still need to get a COVID-19 molecular test result before they arrive in Canada.

However, the government announced today that it plans to launch a new surveillance program at airports and land border crossings starting Aug. 9. Fully vaccinated individuals will not need a post-arrival test unless they have been randomly selected to complete a COVID-19 molecular test."

  • 6 1
 I dont get why everyone even slightly involved werent vaccinated before traveling there.. in my country all of the olympians were near the top of priority list, right after doctors and immunodeficient patients.. i get it that not all countries have the vax but shouldnt ioc/japan provide it for them? Like they are shooting themselves in the foot
  • 5 3
 @GZMS: because athletes should have absolutely no priority over any other member of society. The lady on the checkout in my shop is more important as a contributor to society and in terms of risk exposure through work.
They should be dj’ed before participating but that does not stop you getting and spreading, just dying.
The olympics is a stupid idea and is no different to dropping a nuke or fukashima in terms of inflicting disaster on Japan.
  • 1 1
 @ilovedust: well in usa there are 620 olympians this year.. if there were only a few thousand vaccines available, then yes they shouldnt be prioritised , but e.g. in us there have been 340million shots administred.. a few thousand prioritised to olympians is not going to prevent anybody else from getting the shot.. already many countries are destroying tens of thousands of shots from their vaccine stock, because either demand is lower than expected or just bad logistics makes vaccines go past expiration date..
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Hate to break the news to ya but , the media is not a reflection of reality.
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 @johnd2:What? The article is a message from the Canadian Gov about opening their border to Americans. Nothing there should trigger your fear of the media.
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 @Jconstan: pretty sure that “molecular test” is referring to antigen rapid testing for viral rna. Theres no data showing that vaccinated individuals will have detectable levels of antibody following immunization as far as I know. This is according to the CDC, who recommends against antibody testing post vaccine.
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 @lognar: it is, that was thr correction. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Not sure if there's a way to edit the original, but I can't figure it out from the phone. I had confused antigen with antibody.
  • 5 2
 @Jconstan: many are getting delta after already having a shot or two.
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 @jrocksdh: Yep, that's why you want to be vaxxed-up so the easier-to-catch Delta variant doesn't kill you DEAD.
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 @suspended-flesh: I'm pretty sure johnd2 is referring to Outside media, this whole site is now fake news!
  • 5 6
 @whydomylegshurt: Oh OK - it just sounded like one of those blanket statements where every opinion that diverges form your own is #fake - classic trump stuff.
  • 56 14
 62 sounds bad then you do the math and doesn't sound so bad.
  • 33 25
 that would mean 281 infected per 100 000 capita, so a pretty high score actually.
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 @faul:Or less than .3%
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flag faul (Jul 19, 2021 at 13:09) (Below Threshold)
 @mfoga: so, if we do nothing in 2-3 weeks it becomes 100%. And tat's 62 people that have a reduced chance of having a medal, so that's 4 years of training lost.
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 I think the concern is that we've seen a fair number of cases so quickly. If the new variants are indeed significantly more transmissible, we will start to see a lot more cases soon. While I have no doubt that these athletes are quite healthy and will not suffer greatly from Covid, we really don't want this damn virus to keep spreading, especially to vulnerable populations. Collecting people from all over the world and having them mingle, then return home, is a great way to reignite a world wide pandemic.
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 What I have not seen anywhere is 1) How many of these cases are among vaccinated athletes, and 2) Of those, how many (if any) are symptomatic.

PCR tests are super-sensitive, and can return a positive from someone with no symptoms and no chance of transmitting. If we're freaking out because vaccinated athletes with no symptoms came back positive on PCR tests, that is misplaced.
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 @mfoga: and just think how high that number will be when all of the athletes show up. There is still a very low number actually in Tokyo right now. Should be good times
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flag SterlingArcher (Jul 19, 2021 at 13:51) (Below Threshold)
 I think we should all just stop arguing. If people don’t want the vax, let them die… freedom! im one their side.
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flag PauRexs FL (Jul 19, 2021 at 14:31) (Below Threshold)
 @rallyimprezive: my convern is vaccination not "variables" csuse the more vaccination more "variables". Just facts;
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 @PauRexs: What? Im not sure I follow how your response even correlates to what I said.
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 @PauRexs: Anonymous images on Imgur as a news source...
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It isn't that simple. If people don't/can't vaccinate then the virus continues to spread and mutate until it becomes resistant to the vaccines. Then we have to start this all over again.
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 I don't think I'll have @mfoga do my taxes next year. haha
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 @mfoga: and what have we learned over the last 16 months about exponential growth rates?
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 99.8% isn’t a bad number either ...
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flag tahoecary (Jul 19, 2021 at 20:00) (Below Threshold)
 You are a complete idiot…and it’s beyond hateful for you to say what said. Covid has a 99.9% or greater survival rate you dumbass…it is not a death sentence by a long shot. Do you remember when they said the lockdowns were for the hospitals so they wouldn’t become overloaded….did that ever happen? Anywhere??? They said the masks mean nothing then magically they said it means everything. Don’t you have an inner voice that’s says something is amiss? Look at the stats and judge for yourself… 80% of the elderly is fully vaccinated in this country, as it should… the average age of death from Covid is 78 years of age… these are the ones that have needed the help, the treatment and so on. Until we all start asking what are the thresholds and holding these ding dongs accountable (when they have clearly flip flopped many times) things will never change. At this point NOONE can ever get ‘sick’ again??? It’s ludicrous to do what they say to do….especially when given the facts, the actual stats, and all of the misinformation from day one. Do yourself a favor and start thinking for yourself instead of what some stranger on Facebook or some crappy news channel is spewing…@SterlingArcher:
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flag GDPipsqueak (Jul 20, 2021 at 1:01) (Below Threshold)
 @egb81: Umm. It's going to do that either way.
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 @egb81: what, like the flu does each year?
  • 5 0
 @Davec85: No like viruses do.
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 @GDPipsqueak: You do know that they change the vaccine for flu each year because it changes each year.
  • 40 25
 Well...at least we'll have the opportunity to study the Covid death rate of Olympic athletes.
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 Young, healthy people are basically immune from COVID. If we ignore health, and just measure on age (25-34), you are more likely to die from:

Unintentional Injury
Malignant Neoplasms
Heart Disease
Liver Disease


These numbers become more staggering with more recent data- obesity is now a greater predictor of a covid infection resulting in a hospitalization than age is (but the two are tightly correlated).
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flag tonit91 (Jul 19, 2021 at 12:49) (Below Threshold)
 Who cares, all the people that keep going about how dangerous it is, you got your vaccines now, leave the rest of us alone. Not having vaccines was the only argument people had to justify the panic and the lockdowns, so now what...seems to me it's like some magic circle. More than half of the employees in the company I work had it, everyone agreed that if the virus would be unknown, they would come to work like nothing happened.
  • 73 34
 Why am I being downvoted? Can someone point to where I'm wrong? I'm using CDC data.
  • 46 23
 @hamncheez: Probably because the new variant is very transmissible - including to populations where Covid IS more likely to be fatal. I have a family member for whom Covid would very likely be fatal. I would prefer to not get it, and give it to my kid. I don't expect the world to stop spinning just for me, but I would like to see Covid go away. It's hard to not get frustrated when I hear/read people basically saying "who cares if you get Covid, it wont hurt you!?"
I care, and it will hurt.
  • 20 13
 @hamncheez: Maybe because dying from Covid -19 is now unnecessary. On the other hand, i do believe that suicide should be legalized, this is just a weird way to do it.
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 @rallyimprezive: The data on the new variant is not clear yet, because it is new. For those under age 34, the increase in suicide exceeds the COVID death rate for those age cohorts, dramatically.

What is the long-term mental health effects for young adults and children who endured lockdowns? One of the greatest predictors of longevity and health is how well socialized someone is- meaning whether they have a support group of friends and family.
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 @hamncheez: Because your attitude is "COVID won't hurt me and if it hurts someone else it's their own problem and their own fault". Is that a mischaracterization of how you feel?
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 @hamncheez: What is your argument here? That we shouldn't be testing?

They might have little danger of death, but I'd bet COVID would put a dent in their chances of winning a medal. Health is kinda important to professional athletes.

I'm 32, I had COVID, and I wasn't hospitalized, but I felt shitty for a week and it took me many weeks to recover in terms of biking performance.
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 Honestly, as someone who had their brain destroyed by a mild covid infection. Totally fu*ked for 17 months now. Curious how Olympic athletes immune systems respond.
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 @hamncheez: I have my side. I’d rather my kid not get it. If you don’t care, I’ve got nothing more to say.
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 @hamncheez: Suicide was around before covid and will be around after. If you are blaming lockdowns, then that would require a different analysis. It has increased, but likely just exposing other issues with our society.

Hearing the stories of my family during WW2, our lockdown experience is child's play compared to what they had to endure. Even cold war events in the 60s were WAY worse. Underground shelters everywhere, constant in school training for the inevitable nuclear attacks. Bay of pigs, Cuban missile crisis etc etc etc.
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 it's not all about the death count... have to look at hospitalizations and the strain on the health care system. Over 99% of the hospitalizations are from unvaccinated persons and a good chunk of them are young males. Want Covid to end soon, get your vaccinations and be done with it. It's that easy.
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 @jaydawg69: "A good chunk of them are young males" that doesn't agree with the data I've seen, especially when you take obesity into account.
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 @a-jar: When did I say we shouldn't be testing?
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 @bocomtb: That is not my attitude. My response was that for young, fit people, there will be very little data to observe (among Olympic athletes).

My followup, in the context of the article and lockdowns, is that locking down young and healthy people may have costs that exceed the benefits of potential reduced transmission rates. Its doubtful that lockdowns have reduced transmission rates.
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 @rallyimprezive: If your kid is not obese, under age 40, or not type 1 diabetic, there is a very, very low chance of them being hospitalized or dying from COVID. They are more likely to die from a whole host of other things. Many of those other things are strongly correlated with lockdowns.

Saying I "don't care" about deaths is a straw man attack. All I've brought up is data.
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flag PauRexs FL (Jul 19, 2021 at 14:32) (Below Threshold)
 Vaccination death rate you mean...
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 @a-jar: Exact same for me when I got the good ol' fashioned (but now eradicated) regular flu. That ol' fashioned eradicated regular flu used to kill 10s of 1000s Americans every year and it was the 11th story on your local network news, right after the feel good fluff piece on the local 6th grader who was donating his lemonade stand earnings to his school.
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 @hamncheez: "it is doubtful that lockdowns have reduced transmission rates" You are a victim of misinformation my friend. This is 100% not true. This is just plain false.
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 @hamncheez: What are your preferred news and information sources? I am quite curious as we seem to inhabit very different worlds.
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flag hamncheez (Jul 19, 2021 at 15:06) (Below Threshold)
 @syeve: There is not good evidence that lockdowns have had an effect. Much of it is because people don't comply with lockdowns, true, but that still is reality.
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 @bocomtb: I'm looking at the CDC. While it hasn't proven to be infallible, or even super reliable, there simply aren't any good, robust datasets out there. Its still too close to the incidents themselves for lots of robust data to be gathered and published.
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flag jaydawg69 FL (Jul 19, 2021 at 15:35) (Below Threshold)
 @hamncheez: you can't argue that if your fully vaccinated, you have a less change of going to the hospital, dying or spreading it. Seems pretty common sense to me.
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 @hamncheez: How about a child with chronic lung disease and congenital heart disease? Do you know anything about pulmonary hypertension, pulmonary vein stenosis, patent ductus arteriosus, or atrial septal defects? No? Ive spoken with plenty of actual experts in pediatric cardiology and pulmonology who've told me that Covid would be bad.
It's my reality, and it sucks for me. I dont expect the world to cater to my needs. But ignorant people spouting off about fatality stats with complete apathy really pisses me off.
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 @hamncheez: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7806254 this study shows that lockdowns do help.
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 it will never happen in the states, but every country should be doing what France is.
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 @jaydawg69: There is some preliminary data that demonstrates that, yes. But I haven't mentioned vaccines. On that subject, this girl www.nbcolympics.com/news/us-womens-gymnastics-alternate-tests-positive-covid-19-tokyo-olympics is in my coworkers family. She is vaccinated. Why are they strictly quarantining a vaccinated teenager who is in peak physical condition? I doubt there is a single death globally for a healthy teenager in this kind of shape, and there is no evidence that non-symptomatic people (she is non-symptomatic) can transmit COVID. There is no evidence that a fully vaccinated person can transmit COVID either. Her quarantine is non-scientific.
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 @rallyimprezive: seems like certain people only care about themselves.
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 @hamncheez: I think that's a situation on better to be safe than sorry. A fully vaccinated person can still spread the virus but at a much lower level.
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 @hamncheez: I think considering the lockdowns caused the largest upward transfer of wealth in history, sunken 20+ million in the US alone into poverty, 200,000 and growing small business gone under as a direct result, estimated millions in 3rd world countries to starve to death as a result. That yeah you're right, we've exceeded the benefits of a potential reduction in transmission rates.
But shhhh, let the masses use the propaganda and fear porn spewed from the billionaires and elites who are making billions off of it, to signal their virtue.
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 @jaydawg69: Yea. And I get downvoted by a few for my story. Im just talking about my reality. No politics or radical beliefs. Just that Covid could be fatal for my son. That's somehow wrong.
I dont understand honestly.
  • 10 4
 @rallyimprezive: unfortunately the whole thing got political and commonsense went out the door.
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 @mrsj101: so just keep everything open and pretend the virus didn't happen? Ask Sweden how that worked out. Even Trump wasn't that dumb.
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 @rallyimprezive: If your child is at risk, then yes, quarantine is probably the right choice for you. However, lock downs impose costs too, and a new study finds that shelter in place orders increase excess mortality (see www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w28930/w28930.pdf). As with any new study, it needs time to survive the rigors of peer review, but it still should give pause about forced lockdown policies.
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 @rallyimprezive: I never downvoted you. I'm saying that just as others shouldn't impose health practices on you and your situation, we shouldn't impose health practices on others in different situations. There are alarming reports of famine and a dramatic increase in global poverty from lockdowns. That cannot be ignored. While I hope these figures turn out to be exaggerated, it is doubtless that they causes many unneeded deaths.
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 @jaydawg69: Umm fine? their death rate per 100k is around 140, not bad not great comparatively.
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 @hamncheez: Im not sure you are even reading what I wrote. I am only asking for one thing from you - humanize the statistics. Thats it.
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 @hamncheez: So. Re-reading what you've said. I have a question. Do you care about those that die from Covid? Would you do anything at all to reduce the spread of the virus to your fellow Americans that are at risk? Do you view American freedom as something YOU get, or as a shared responsibility?
  • 8 9
 @hamncheez: it's the truth, and it's amazing how many sheep downloaded this.
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 @a-jar: sounds like a common flu symptoms.
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flag bocomtb FL (Jul 19, 2021 at 16:24) (Below Threshold)
 @mrsj101: You just made a strong argument for continuing COVID unemployment benefits.
  • 7 3
 @weaverlandbikepark360: Why are they sheep? Maybe you just dont understand other people's point of view?
  • 10 7
 @mrsj101: Refreshing. Also. a 99.8% survival rate. A casedemic. not a pandemic.
  • 5 4
 @hamncheez: How much chronic illness can a healthcare system deal with is the question. And how full do you want hospitals to be when a significant proportion of the population have it at one time?
  • 5 3
 @chrisk71: What do you think the survival rate would be if there was zero vaccination?
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 @suspended-flesh: Wasn't there about 12ish months where there was no vaccine? I would say that would be a decent database to draw a conclusion from.... I'm pretty sure it was over 99% during that time.
  • 6 0
 @bocomtb: cause hyperinflation is cool
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 @chrisk71: Much better than that if you're under 50 even..
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 @suspended-flesh: The numbers were plummeting well before vaccines were introduced. The average age of C19 deaths in many countries is the same as the average life expectancy. In the UK the life expectancy is longer if you’ve had C19… What is happening now is beyond f*cked. Young, healthy people are being advised to take a vaccine that is causing them to develop myocarditis. We’re permanently damaging the health of the young to protect the elderly. The ethics of the sheeple are warped.
  • 5 4
 @jclnv: It doesn't really matter now that the brink of WW3 is here. (China vs Taiwan/Japan/USA).

Been nice chatting about the distraction......
  • 13 4
 @jclnv: My 26yr old daughter is a Dr. and now lives in Melbourne Australia. She received her first dose of Astrazeneca 59 days ago and last night she was at Royal Melbourne Hospital getting all sorts of tests because she began having pain in her left clavicle that moved to her left shoulder and is now "under her left boob" and is sharp stabbing pains when she takes a deep breath.

They took blood, did an EKG, ECG and chest x-ray trying to rule out a blood clot which they have, but her symptoms are still present and got worse when she got home from the ER last night.

She is super fit and was "encouraged" to get the shot by her employer because of what she does for a living. Now I'm sitting here 8k miles away feeling helpless trying not to think of bad things..... Not real easy.

I hate the current world.
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flag jaydawg69 FL (Jul 19, 2021 at 17:58) (Below Threshold)
 @jclnv: what % are get this? Are you an ant-vaxxer?
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 @mrsj101: Oh, I know. Millions of unborn children are aborted each year but "save every life." Gimme a fu*kin break! I'm not interested in Agenda 2030 or the Gates depopulation wackseen. Immune systems aren't a conspiracy theory folks! Natural immunity is the only true immunity. It's really too bad that humanity is such a threat to humanity.
  • 8 9
 @DBone95: Only 25% of the vaccine remains at the injection site. The potential for complications are vast. I’m so sorry about your daughter.
  • 10 14
flag chrisk71 FL (Jul 19, 2021 at 19:03) (Below Threshold)
 @DBone95: You're not alone. Many of us hate the prospect of what lies ahead with respect to our civil liberties and medical freedom. Not surprised she was pressured to take the Fauci Ouchi. I wish her the best. Check out this link if you like information that isn't censored by social media or if you don't like the lies being told by the MSM. If this is all on the up and up, why all the censorship?


Go through the archives, you might find something useful.
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 @jaydawg69: One clinic found that 60% of post vaccinated patients had heart wall damage. Heart tissue damage is permanent. Anti-vaxxer? I’m not really sure what that means? Are you saying you would take any vaccine without weighing up the cost/benefit?
  • 7 3
 @chrisk71: Nice, chill, off the cuff site suggestion. Truth is that's all one guys' opinion. One guy who is highly suspect: quackwatch.org/11ind/mercola

If you think Quackwatch is suspect (it may be - I just don't take anyone's word for anything) Google Dr Mercola
  • 9 11
 @suspended-flesh: Those are the opinions of experts in their field. Backed by data. Not his. Not a surprise that Google, the Gates foundation and others are attacking his site for exposing the truth. It goes against their agenda.
  • 11 7
 @chrisk71: So when you are challenged by information that counters your narrative, you blame a Big Conspiracy. Please do better.
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 @jclnv: What clinic was that, again?
  • 8 10
 @suspended-flesh: My apologies it was clotting, not tissue damage (it’s been a long day). However, the result is similar. westernstandardonline.com/2021/07/bc-doc-says-hes-found-blood-clots-in-62-of-post-jab-patients

Over 10,000 deaths in the US from vaccine side effects. See the government VAERS data. Although I don’t think deaths will be the main issue. It will be longterm side effects.
  • 5 4
 @jclnv: do you have a link to the clinic? Polio vaccine among many others seems to be good. What evidence do you have that this isn’t? Remember that 99.2% of the hospitalizations for COVID are unvaccinated.
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 That’s right!!! @hamncheez:
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 @jclnv: lol.... that's not a study or anything scientific. The doctor is a quack. Here's a better link: globalnews.ca/news/7885506/covid-naci-vitt-rate
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 @jaydawg69: He’s not talking serious clots relating to the AZ vaccine. He’s talking less serious (in the short term) clotting. Who is testing for that? No one. Calling him a quack honestly makes you look desperate. All arguments are valid regardless of their origin. Arguments from authority are far more likely to be politicized than a single doctor with 28 years of healthcare going against an overwhelming narrative of a vaccine only cure for all for a virus that exclusively effects the obese, hypertensive, and elderly.

I don’t believe the stats on hospitalizations/vaccines. That was definitely not the case in Israel which has what has led to the panic for booster shots.

Polio - abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/polio-cases-now-caused-vaccine-wild-virus-67287290
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flag tahoecary (Jul 19, 2021 at 20:18) (Below Threshold)
 Not so fast dude…. Just put exactly ‘what?’ into your healthy body…using a healthy person for example with no other major health issues for example, just ‘go along’ with this experiment? I’ve seen people get put on a stretcher and taken to the hospital FROM GETTING THE VACCINATION! Are you aware that in the US, we are closing in on ~10,000 deaths FROM the vaccine shot alone? Everyone should be asking 1) How many people usually pass from a flu shot vs what we have going on with these vaccines… Answer: ~100 individuals pass each year from the regular flu shot… Shouldn’t those stats give you pause if you’re otherwise healthy about putting god knows what into your body causing ???? Now and later down the road…. Ya know what: keep taking the shots, the next boosters and then the next boosters, you can have them all…and when your almost done, take another…. Then, like Fauci just said today: “just to be safe’ go ahead and mask up (especially if your 3 years old) ‘just to be safe safe’. Earth to everyone the people saying things like this aren’t using STATISTICS OR RAW DATA, they are making these crazy justifications to keep society dependent on the few so called leaders…we should all be very concerned about this insanity taking place and start asking some real questions. @jaydawg69:
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 @jclnv: on your Dr....

The B.C. Centre for Disease Control publishes weekly updates on adverse events following COVID-19 vaccination, and as of May 1, a total of 54 serious health events, including anaphylaxis, seizure and possible neurological effects, were reported out of 1.85 million doses administered. That's a rate of about 0.002 per cent.

While four people have died within 30 days of receiving one of those 1.85 million shots, none of those deaths are believed to be the result of the vaccine. In comparison, 1,622 people have died of COVID-19 in B.C. out of 136,100 confirmed cases.

Hoffe's letter also echoes a common but thoroughly debunked talking point used in conspiracy theorist circles that suggests mRNA vaccines are actually a form of "experimental gene modification therapy."

These vaccines, which include the COVID-19 shots from Pfizer and Moderna, absolutely cannot alter someone's genes.

The only thing mRNA does inside the human body is carry the instructions for building proteins — in the case of vaccines, those proteins trigger an immune response. Once those proteins have been built, the mRNA degrades, and it's physically impossible for it to be incorporated into a person's DNA.

"You can't go from RNA back to DNA in human cells. It's not possible because we just don't have the machinery to deal with it," Dr. Zain Chagla of McMaster
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 True…could he even a greater survival rate…@chrisk71:
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 You are correct… I feel bad for all of those super healthy young kids being brainwashed into the hysteria that they are going/could pass from this….they are being setup to be dependent on Vax’s for their entire lives. How could that be beneficial to them if they are otherwise healthy? In the US… cases under 17yo ~3 Million…supposed deaths 324. @jclnv:
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 You get it!!! We’ll said…@chrisk71:
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 @jclnv: nobody said the vaccine was cure but lessens the effects of the virus. This has been proven over and over. You are really trying to cherry pick and it's not going well for you. The virus is not exclusive just to the obese, hypertensive and elderly as you know.


So the Polio vaccine wasn't a good idea? Any vaccine? Just trying to understand.
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 @tahoecary: You've lost your damn mind, son. They finally found a way to bring down the greatest country in the world. From within. RIP - The American Experiment.
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 @tahoecary: By providing unvaccinated hosts, you are basically providing safe harbor for the mutation of variants. Variants that kill your own older and less-healthy family. Blood's on your hands, not mine.
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 @hamncheez: You’re probably downvoted because you boldly claim that young people are “immune” to COVID, and try to back that up with death rates. So, if you don’t die, you didn’t really have it?

There are cases known, where COVID was career-ending to athletes. Those may be a small minority, but for each of them their life has been significantly changed, and that is not really covered by the word “immune”.
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 @jaydawg69: I know it lessens the effects. It’s a therapeutic, not an immunization after all which explains how the virus can still be transmitted after vaccination. So there you go, if you want to take the vaccine, and subsequent booster shots, go for it. I’ll just deal with it as I have don’t with every single corona virus I’ve contracted. When I feel ill or seem virally loaded, I’ll stay at home until I’m better. The outcome for society is exactly the same apart from one requires an extra risk of blood clotting and offers inferior immunity.

BTW people critical of the vaccines are not talking crap about gene editing. That’s the typical junk bandwagon the media etc has jumped on to discredit any criticism of the agenda They’re saying the spike protein itself is doing the damage.

So based on the article I posted, would you give your child the polio vaccine? You’re not an anti-vaxxer right? Just trying to understand.
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 @tahoecary: "Are you aware that in the US, we are closing in on ~10,000 deaths FROM the vaccine shot alone? " False, literal bullshit. You are the problem. People who throw out crap statistics to scare people. You, exactly you, are the problem here.
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 @syeve: The data is from the VAERS. The CDC’s adverse reaction database.
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flag chrisk71 FL (Jul 20, 2021 at 8:01) (Below Threshold)
 @suspended-flesh: the conspiracy is in plain sight. What about the concept of censorship do you not understand? Science is not shamed in to silence. Just a couple of days ago, the WH admitted they are working with big tech to censor content counter to their narrative. The truth begs questions. Lies require censorship.
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 @jclnv: you have any actual peer reviewed studies of vaccines actually "gene editing"? :Links to quack doctors on a quack websites don't count. Probably what you are referring to: allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2020/12/yes-some-covid-vaccines-use-genetic-engineering-get-over-it

Follow the good science, get poked and stay safe.
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 @chrisk71: " WH admitted they are working with big tech to censor content counter to their narrative" - false. During a recent WH press conference, the press secretary said no. She constantly makes the Fox News rep look like an idiot.
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 @jclnv: 334 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 12, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,079 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
1,047 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received a COVID-19 vaccine

It would be way worse if these people were not vaccinated. 99.2% of the COVID hospitalizations are from unvaccinated people. How do people not get this, there is no conspiracy here.
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 @chrisk71 : I can't be convinced to believe your conspiracy theories. Write me off.
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 @chrisk71: Pretty sure you just feel helpless, and believing in your crackpot theories gives you comfort, just like Christianity does for those who don't think for themselves.
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 @DBone95: You and I may not agree on everything, but I empathize with your unfortunate situation. I wish the best for your daughter and hope she recovers quickly. Hang in there man.
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 @jaydawg69: Actually the UK health advisor just mistakenly (apparently) made a comment that 60% of the hospitalized are double vaccinated. Either way it’s either 60% or 40% in hospital are double vaccinated which makes a mockery of the 90%+ number you keep quoting.
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 @jclnv: apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

tldr: 99.2% of the COVID death rate and 98.9% of the hospitalizations are non vaccinated.
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 @jaydawg69: Why the disparity between the UK and the US then? The UK has a much larger proportion of the population vaccinated.
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 What is happening is people at risk due to age (weak immunity) or pre conditions are still getting very sick even after vaccination. Which makes the case for mass vaccination with these vaccines even weaker (understatement) as they’re not efficacious in the vulnerable demographic.
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 @jclnv: The FIFA Euro Cup, for one thing......
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 @mrsj101: Heavily invested, conflict of interest Big Pharma (Gates, GAVI...) with plenty of "agency capture" and the MSM monopoly as their marketing department are what create "reality". Sprinkle state/Silicon Valley collusion to censor "non-consensus" doctors, scientists and researchers and you get what we now have. Science isn't consensus of the few and "tow the line". It's an open, ongoing debate of all scientists. Silencing detractors makes the entire charade even more suspect.

"Transfer of wealth" AKA "Theft". It wasn't voluntary.
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flag jclnv (Jul 20, 2021 at 10:53) (Below Threshold)
 @jaydawg69: Delta is more transmissible but reduced symptoms right? Let’s be honest, the variant data is junk. The virus can mutate every 10 hours. There are thousands of variants.
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 @jaydawg69: This time next year we'll be on to Golf, after Echo and Foxtrot run their course..... Here's to hoping the world stays locked down until Zulu.
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 @DBone95: more people getting vaccinated will lessen the mutations... pretty easy to follow.
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 @jaydawg69: VAERS has reported over 10,000 vax related deaths in the US. I know from firsthand connections at least 5 deaths and multiple injuries. One was my ex's husband who died immediately following the second installment; he fell asleep and never woke up. One doctor friend in SF got rashes and inflamed spleen; still at home after a month. Another doctor friend in LA has had two coworkers die from second installment. Also said he's seen adverse effects everyday for 6 months and said to not get the treatments yet. I got CV from a fully vaxxed person and another coworker this week the same.

While they mRNA may degrade, the engineered spike proteins (which are indeed genetic modifications, just not DNA altering) can leave the injection site and collect in organs and cross the blood brain barrier causing potential neurological defects as well as other problems. This all still needs to be studied more, obviously as these are EUA, not FDA approved. This is the problem with EUA. They are essentially carrying out "investigational usage" on the populace all while saying everything is fine and perfectly safe.
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 @syeve: These are VAERS datasets.
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 @jaydawg69: Ahhh, I see.... sounds easy! Shit, we should've just shut the world down 100 years ago and vanquished the common cold then. I got the J&J shot only because I see the writing on the new world wall and I want to live the rest of my life like I only get one of them to live.

No matter how big the bleeding heart, everyone has a limit... everyone. It's just that most don't have the balls to look themselves in the mirror and admit it.

Sooner rather than later, life is going to go back to normal, just like it did after 1918.... You know, that time when the planet wasn't bombarded every second, of every day with inflicting fear. It will come again, and if those that don't take care of their own health don't live through it, oh well - no one gets out alive.

Put down the vape, the cigarettes, the SuperSized Big Mac and the alcohol and be your own defense against a virus with a 99% survival rate.... You Can Do It!!
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 @jaydawg69: Didn’t work in Israel, hence the booster push. Here’s the thing, the spike proteins that are damaging organs compound with further doses. How many more booster doses to protect you from the variants are you going to take before you start questioning “the science”? Annual?
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 @jclnv: from another post @ppp9911:

FDA and Pharma companies have always been in bed and don't have a strong history. However, COVID vaccine development, monitoring and evaluation have been exceptionally transparent and many researchers, public health practitioners, government watchdogs, independent governments, etc have all been monitoring vaccine safety and vaccine performance. In other words there is a massive body of literature outside of the FDA and pharma companies.

Conclusion: Right now the vaccines are extremely safe and have high vaccine efficacy. Unfortunately too few people are immunized and more transmissible variants increase the level of immunization required to prevent epidemic oscillations (surges etc). Where I live over 1 million doses have been administered safely. During the month of June in a vaccine efficacy case control study we just completed (not FDA/Pharma funded or in anyway affiliated) we estimated 87% vaccine efficacy (81-95%).

If you don't believe me below is a pretty solid collection of references related to mRNA vaccine performance and safety:


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 @suspended-flesh: says the guy who can't think for himself
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 @jaydawg69: I think we’re on different planets I’m afraid. To me the narrative of a vaccine only solution to this virus and the utterly ruthless efforts to shut down anything other than a vaccine is too strong an indication that something isn’t right. The same can be said if you mentioned that the virus had a laboratory origin. The institutional and media effort to shut down that obvious question was simply bizarre. Then there’s natural immunity from people who contracted the virus. Why were they advised to be vaccinated when they had superior natural immunity? Why was anyone who questioned these facts called a denier or anti-vaxxer? I think I’ve got an idea and it involves billions in vaccine sales by some of the worlds most powerful multinational corporations. I highly suspect those working for the links you’ve posted are highly invested in that industry.

BTW we have zero long term data on mRNA vaccine safety. To say the animal trials were not successful is an understatement. Autopsy’s of the vaccinated have shown large concentrations of the spike protein in ovaries and bone marrow. I think in a decade we’ll know. They could be totally safe or they may cause tumours and birth defects. Nobody knows and it’s disingenuous to say the do. The interactions between spike protein and genome are too complex to predict.
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 @tahoecary: take it easy MTBR boy…you sound paranoid.
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 @syeve: well said!
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 @jclnv: FYI. J&J and it's distributors just settled for $26B for helping fuel the opioid crisis. Just an update to that.

Check Pfizer profits this quarter...
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 @jclnv: mRNA vaccines were first given to humans in 2009 for prostate cancer:


Then a clinical trial in 2013

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 @jaydawg69: Yes but not as a vaccination. As said above, it’s the cytotoxic, biologically active nature of the spike protein that is the issue.
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 @jclnv: maybe my reading comprehension is failing but the articles say mRNA vaccines ?
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 @jclnv: www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93064 from an actual Dr who studies/deals with this stuff all day. What you got?
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 The problem is that while probably not a "conspiracy" (whatever that actually means), the actions of major governments over the last year is like playing with fireworks during a drought for conspiracy theorists.

The large pharmaceutical companies are granted immunity from liability. All dissent on social media is taken down. Any mention of the lab leak hypothesis is taken down.

Fauci lies about needing PPEs when this all started to reduce public demand for them so that critical healthcare workers could get their needed supply, then two weeks later reverses his position. He testifies about wearing two masks, then emails come out where he advised a personal friend not to bother wearing them and that traveling for vacation is ok even though he publicly advised against leisure travel. Fauci also stretched the truth about funding gain of function research.

The J&J vaccine rollout is "paused" because one person died amongst several million doses. This literally makes 0 statistical sense.

You have people in powerful positions, like California Governor Newsom, who have daily briefings on the mortality, spread, and danger of the virus, yet they keep their personal businesses open, keep their kids in in-person private school, and flaunt social distance protocols when dining out with political allies. There are dozens of politicians who did this, like Austin Mayor Steve Adler who sent a recorded message telling people not to travel, from his timeshare in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. These people have daily briefings on the raw numbers as they come in!

I could go on, but once again I am not a conspiracy theorist. I think power gives people hubris, combined with the general incompetence of government creates these situations. I'm just saying its no wonder conspiracies are flying left and right.
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 How dare you. Don’t you believe Fauci?
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 @Mntneer: excuse me, that's Saint Fauci to you
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 I used it and it worked in addition to iMASK+ protocol. Vaxxes may be preferable to many, but they are not treatments if you do get CV.
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 Remember when Pinkbike was about riding bikes? You’ve all lost your head. Get in the woods and ride your damn bike.
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 I'm interested in the athletes found to test positive for COVID 19 to compete in a separate COVID only games. Then compare their scores/times to non covid athletes (team sports excluded of course)
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 I am really curious how many of the 62 are vaccinated?
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 I'm sure if they're unvaccinated it would have been stated.
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 They are vaccinated against dying miserably while intubated and gasping for breath, not from catching the damn virus.
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flag SterlingArcher (Jul 19, 2021 at 13:49) (Below Threshold)
 @suspended-flesh: you’re trying to convince a highly uneducated crowd here. If people don’t want the vax, let them suffer - is what all vaccinated people are truly thinking lol.
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 @suspended-flesh: surprised how very few people realize this and the news constantly talks about "so and so many vaccinated people tested positive...something something *freak out*"
Vaccine does not prevent you from getting it, it was never sold that way. It lowers your chances of dying a terrible death or going to ICU and lowers rate of transmission. My anti-vac neighbor across street got COVID a month ago after refusing the vaccine....he ended up going to ICU for 4 weeks and now has to slowly walk around with an oxygen tank. To think it may not have been so bad for him had he just trusted science and got the damn vaccine.
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 @SATN-XC: The vaccine also makes you less likely to transmit the virus as well, leading to safer situations for everyone!
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 @SATN-XC: refusing EUA CV vaxxes doesn't mean someone refuses ALL vaxxes. I got CV from a fully vaxxed person (along with two others infected), took Ivermectin and didn't miss any work; it depends on each individual's immune health, treatment protocol, (iMASK+) etc. One fully vaxxed coworker just got CV this week. Most people I know who got vax believe they are safe regardless.

I also know a few people (directly and firsthand connections) who have died directly from second dose (one was doctor friend's colleagues after second round dose). Many others injured (strokes, terrible pain, inflammation, rashes, etc.) So pretending adverse events are one in a million is just not accurate. Over the last year, I don't know a single person who died from CV other than a few over 70 cases (personal and firsthand connections). So compare my recent (past 4 months) to last entire year there's no comparison.
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 @SATN-XC: or he could've died from the vaccine like thousands of people have.
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 Having watched the 2020 NFL season I feel like we already know how this is gonna go.
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 Credit where credit is due, the NFL, NBA, and NHL have handled a season with a pandemic hell of a lot better than the MLB. There were rough starts at first, but there weren’t vaccines available at first, either.
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 @sjma: NBA & NHL bubbles were very effective. The NFL was a circus. Anyone remember the week the Broncos had no QBs because the entire group had been exposed?
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 The only time in history when you have to be convinced by a test that was never intended to diagnose disease to even know you had a disease in the first place
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 This is why I propose a covid only games for science! Lol
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 Just something to think about.

The people that don't want to be vaccinated are very likley to be the ones that don't wear masks and also very unlikely to be getting themselves tested endlessly.

So where are all the "cases" coming from?
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 They are the people currently crowding ER's, struggling to breathe, and begging for the vaccine. They are being told "sorry, it's too late for that". That is their 'test'. Don't be them.
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 @suspended-flesh: There's both vaxxed and unvaxxed getting CV. That's where treatment comes into play and has been downplayed to push vax shots exclusively. There are plenty of treatment regimens which are very successful. Funny that everyone thinks that treatment doesn't exist until you realize that the MSM is basically the marketing department for Big Pharma. Event 201 made that loud and clear.
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 @fudgedredd: Y'all finna die regardless,
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 @suspended-flesh: Do you really believe that obvious propaganda? follow the money if you want the truth, there is billions if not trillions of $$ to be made from convincing people they need a yearly vaccine for a mild illness.
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 @b45her: Yes, making money is what humans do, but only death is real. F off with the 'mild illness' BS. I see victims firsthand and we have not seen anything like this in a long, long, time.
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 @suspended-flesh: Not my words, the word of the WHO, its a "mild to moderate illness" that is pretty harlmess unless your very old or have underlying illnesses. its worrying willy's like you keeping the whole charade going.
In the UK the average age of a "covid death" is higher than the average life expectancy of the population FFS.
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 @b45her: Tell that to the parents of dead children we are beginning to see in the populated world. I see that you live in a wonderful, fairly isolated area (lucky!), but you too may see the fruits of inaction soon. Mild/Moderate - That trope is quickly loosing steam. Conversely, I'm not worried at all. I took Death and Dying TWICE in college and listen mainly to death metal and funeral doom. Only Death is Real, my friend. Life expectancy has dropped 1.5 years in the US since this began.What I do find mildly troubling is seeing 10.000 anti-vax protesters rioting in Paris on the news right now. LOL Do you support your southern neighbors?
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 @suspended-flesh: You poor delusional little petal, i'm not sure what a "death and dying" course is exactly or why you would have to do it twice. or what your musical tastes have to do with anything.
now go back to your emo basement and be afraid of everything.
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 basing anything on an unreliable PCR test is ridiculous.
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 A PCR test is 100% reliable. You‘re probably talking about the Rapid Tests.
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 @FuzzyL: PCR isn't a test full stop, its a method of DNA replication.
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 @b45her: Call it a molecular test, if you want. However, the margin for error is non-existent, unless a complete imbecile carries out the test. It is 100% accurate.
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 @FuzzyL: NOTHING is 100% accurate especially a "test" designed to pick up a very small fragment of RNA.
it does not tell you whether you are infected or not, simply that there is a fragment of DNA be it living or dead, active or dormant in your body.
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 No matter which way you turn or what you click on the media are still reporting on Covid-19.
18 months of non stop news on Covid we are all sick to the back teeth of it we know it’s here and it won’t go away.
So just stop reporting on it nobody cares.

It’s depressing, give people positive news to keep them up beat not just shit journalism on positive tests.

Ps I’m double jabbed
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 I mean... this matters how? They're all healthy, right? Literally the best in their fields of sport? Shouldn't they be in fit enough shape to handle this?
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 How many deaths?
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 "positive cases" used to mean performance enhancing drugs
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 It's fine. It won't spread any more since we're having socially distanced wrestling
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 there's no DH or DS so i don't care. I've heard the same old story, " it's too hard to find a venue that's so far away from the Olympic Center"... Well they have Surfing! that's harder to find than a freaking mountain. so no DH or DS is a chicken poo excuse. I'm sure in 4 years Corn Hole will be an added event along with beer pong
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 Through all of this, I guess I remain surprised that Japan has struggled so much--I would have expected Japan to have things well under control by now.
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 62 so far.
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 Are the rings in the picture the new mullet rings with 29er blue, yellow, black and 27.5 red and green?
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 I always thought the Olympics were kind of dumb but wow dying for them is next level devotion.
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 I think that's a bit extreme...these are young (for the most part) athletes in top physical condition. I also assume the majority have been vaccinated (not sure what the rules are but I assume IOC makes vaccines mandatory to compete); that said, its highly unlikely any of them are risking death to compete. Assuming they are vaccinated, I bet 62 of the 62 have little to no symptoms and had no idea they had it until they tested positive.

The Olympics are dumb from a waste of resources standpoint (just designate a SINGLE venue and use it every 4 years) but I enjoy the competition and wouldn't hesitate to go if I was a twenty-something competing at the top of my sport.
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 @SATN-XC: "Vaccination will not be mandatory but the IOC says it expects a “significant number” of participants to have received the jab before the Games."
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 This needs to end. Can’t do this bs forever. Enough already.
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 Hold our beers........
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 PCR tests faker than a two dollar bill.
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 umm... *squints*
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 Dick pound..
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 I’d just like to watch and enjoy some sports please… can people sod if with their negativity all the time
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 …go figure
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 that picture of the shitty log over.
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 because that Vaccine.. "vaccine" filled with Brawndo works wonders
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 Oh who gives a shit... a whole bunch of young, highly fit athletes. I swear y'all are desperate to stay afraid. Meanwhile, 60% of new covid cases in the UK are people who've received both shots of the vaccine. Masks don't work, the vaccine isn't working, most at risk people who were gonna die have already died. Go live your lives and stop being terrified of spending a few days sick... and if you're at risk because of preexisting comorbidities then stay the f*ck home and let everyone else get on with it.
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 @SterlingArcher: Sir Patrick Valance

"In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID."
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 @SterlingArcher: although, despite him supposedly misspeaking, it appears the data from ZOE actually supports this being true. Irrespective of whether 60% is the exact figure, the data shows that more vaccinated are testing positive than unvaccinated...

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He didn't walk it back - he was dead wrong.

"The government's chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance had said 60% of those taken to hospital with COVID-19 have been vaccinated twice, but the figure is actually among the unvaccinated."


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 @suspended-flesh: yeah, except it's pretty funny how the data from ZOE a week earlier clearly shows that cases among those with at least one dose exceeded those of the unvaccinated and, now a week later, he "accidentally" confirms that... continue on another week on that trend and and it would make sense. Also, pretty awkward wording that he "accidentally" said "people in hospital who've been double vaccinated" as opposed to only an easy slip where he just mixed up vaccinated and unvaccinated.

... but whatever, you believe whatever makes you feel justified in your fear.
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flag suspended-flesh FL (Jul 19, 2021 at 21:13) (Below Threshold)
 @badbadleroybrown: I'm not afraid of Covid at all and I have never had a flu vax (afraid of needles), but I did get a Shingles Vax cause that shit is gnarly. I hope antivaxxers over 50 who had chickenpox as a child roll the dice on that one.......suckers!
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 @suspended-flesh: so 40% is of those who had at least one vaccine? Isnt that too high?
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 @GZMS: I can't speak for the UK.
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 What the hell! Is everyone just out on the field having sex or something?
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 Oh no
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 Olympics, fubarized.
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 Cancel the Olympics! Whoooooooooo cares!
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 No DH.. just no point
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 exactly how much censorship is going on here?
went to reply to some muppet only to find the comment had been deleted.
has it been going on for long?
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 If you are looking for something, try scrolling down to the 'below threshold' comments. We haven't deleted anything.
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 @alicialeggett: Bless you for that Alicia. BT has always been a delightful refuge for crackpots. It will be missed.....
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 I am not shocked
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 "Cases" LOL
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 And they are ALL vaccinated. How interesting...
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 Coronavirus faker than a three dollar bill.
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 Hold on, you also just said this:

"Positive Covid Cases at Olympics Up to 62, Number of Athletes & Staff in Quarantine Increases
PCR tests faker than a two dollar bill."

You know 2 Dollar bills are real, right?
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