Reverse Components Releases the Travel & Sag Indicator 2.0

 The important thing is to know if you should go heavier or lighter and with most coil shocks having no guide on the shock itself, the Travel and Sag indicator makes it easier to get the initial setup right.

Sure you can use a zip tie or look at the dust marks on the shaft with a ruler to try and get a reading but this makes it very clear and easy to do with the measurements there, ready to go into the sag % calculator. Probably more importantly - it can be also kept on the bike in the setup stages to check your travel use when riding - if people aren't bottoming out their shock, they often don't know how much they're really using. So far a lot of riders have found this tool + process useful and they've ended up with a better performing coil setup in the end.

Thanks for the feedback !

 @ReverseComponents: Is there a reason you don't recommend leaving the indicator on the shock long-term? Could it potentially damage the shock?

 @crazyXCsquirrel: Thanks for the question. No it wasn't about potential damage to the shock. It was simply that if used continually (and not cleaned) in bad weather, the scale markings may rub off. Many customers have kept it on the bike long term no problem. Cheers !

 I'm buying one. I've had issues with getting the right spring rate in the past. And with how much I'm able to ride, which is sometimes just once a week, sometimes it's taken me a couple months to finally end up with a perfect set-up. I also find with progressive suspension designs and how good the bottom out features are it's difficult to really tell if and when and how often I'm using all my travel.

I also like to use Super Alloy Racing springs for their consistency and light weight, but they have spacers that make seeing and setting sack a little more difficult.

Throw in to the mix how different one 500lb (for example) spring can be to the next (often by as much as 25lbs) and this thing will be a very useful tool.

 I thought moving bottom out damper on the shaft to the top and then measure the sag is the proper way, also I doubt anyone will change spring in case sag within +- 3%

 @nickmalysh: This simplifies that, while at the same time allowing you to see if, when and how often you're using full travel.

So if you use one spring and get 28% sag barely while barely ever, if at all using full travel... yet when you use a different spring rate, and get 30% sag and use full travel when you should, that's a good thing.

Thing is... the difference between the use of travel between these springs may be just a couple mm of stroke on the shaft which is something that is very difficult to tell if it's happening or not.

Also, in my experience, + or - 3% points of sag is the difference between 28% and 31% sag, which means change of probably 50lbs of spring rate, which depending on your suspension design can have big impacts on small bump, mid stroke support, use of travel and bottom out.

If I'd have to guess, based on your comment and others in this thread... there are probably quite a few people on the wrong spring rate and not getting everything out of their bike's suspension. A lot of people moving to coil these days because it's the cool thing to do, but not realizing it can be much more difficult to maximize your set-up.

 @ReverseComponents: Shove the bottom out bumper up to the shock body, there's your sag indiciator.

 @Fix-the-Spade: this is for use when riding too.

 Not anymore!

 Seems like an awesome idea to me. It's one thing setting sag, but another thing is really knowing how much travel you use when riding. I tried setting / checking where my bumper gets to but it's up and down like a bloody yo-yo on my TTX.
With this I'll know if I really use anywhere near the full travel I've got.

 @islandforlife: I spent last 4 years on coil suspension and never thought I'm in wrong spot in terms sag or using all or not so travel;

Just set it one time and forget, probably I was like 80% in non ideal configuration

 putting the cake down so you don't have to.

 There are other benefits as well. Say you decide to hit a bigger drop than normal and you think your suspension is setup decent normally. With an air spring, you just hit the drop and then look at the travel indicator and say "gosh, I just used full travel! Maybe I should adjust something!"

With a coil, depending on how hard the hit was, you might not be sure if you used full travel or not. With an indicator on, it would be immediately obvious if you used all or had 10mm left.

This works even if your drunk and can't stand upright.

 @mdinger: If you're so drunk you cannot stand upright I wouldn't go out and hit drops bigger than normal, not even with this tool....

 @ak-77: never tried it lol

 @ak-77: What even is the point in releasing a product if it doesn't help you huck when you're drunk.

 @islandforlife: You ready for an almost free solution? After getting frustrated trying to dial my coil in, this is what I did:

Take an elastic band. Tie a knot on one end. Wrap the elastic around the exposed part of your shock shaft using a thin screw driver (I used a wooden kabob skewer). Pull tight. The knot will help keep it from loosening. Then use a plastic tire lever, or your handy kabob skewer, to seat it at the top of shaft for sag and travel measurements. Works great. Almost free.

 @ReverseComponents: I bought the v1 T&S indicator, showed that the coil I had was riding very low in its travel and that I was bottoming out on fairly mild trails. Went up 50lbs on the coil and whilst I'm still getting into the bottom out bumper its by significantly less, and the bike is riding in a much better area of its stroke in normal riding. Good product, I really like mine.

 @rrolly: Still not going to show if you're using full travel though. On modern coil shocks, there's a big thick easily compressible bottom out bumper some of which is part of your travel, so the elastic could end up against that even though you're not using full travel

 @Malenfant: We're stoked to hear you liked it ! I

 @ReverseComponents: sorry guys. The first iteration was junk…don’t see how this one is going to be any better.

 @KK11: fwiw, this is a pretty useless comment because it isn't specific enough to mean anything. Honestly it might mean you had a bad day the day you looked at the device. Or you hate black. Or you get sick when you see little o rings. Or you dyed your hair and therefore your girlfriend broke up with you and now you hate reverse. Really, anything.

 @islandforlife: It'll be close enough to determine the change in 25lb spring increments. If you go down to the bumper, the elastic sits just above it. If you are using full travel including the bumper, the elastic gets wedged into the bumper.

It really is a simple solution. But if you want to go ahead and drop some coin on this product, fill yer boots.

 I found that if I heard that bottoming noise off flat drops, that meant it bottomed out. I didn't need a gauge to tell me what my ears already told me at the time. Coil shocks do bottom out more than air shocks. Setting up by sag and feel are good enough for anyone. Really, if you believe you need this device to set up your shock, you really do need it and you should buy one. That said, remember there is a conversation about sustainability and this device falls badly on the wrong side of that conversation. It's a superfluous product that is no doubt manufactured at one side of the world and shipped to the other. It consumes resources and serves no real purpose. I wonder what the carbon footprint is on something like this and if they even bothered to do their triple scope impact analysis.

 @mdinger: NC is worthless dinger-boy lol

 @jaame: Thanks for the feedback. It is most useful for riders who are not utilising all their travel, which is really common as many riders use stock coil springs set up for an average rider weight for that frame size. The Travel and Sag Indicators are made in Germany.

 As worthless as the first iteration.

 @KK11: Did you try it ?

 @ReverseComponents: Uh, ya…..Sure did.

Waited 6 weeks for it to show up. The “telescoping” plastic rod buckled and never stayed straight. The thin metal flange bent and never seated correctly. ……oh, and try to mount this to set your sag on a DH bike where the minimal clearance with the rear shock mount in a 4 bar linkage makes this tool useless. Went right back to my trusted and true OG plastic zip tie method that worked 1000% better.

Really good idea guys, but in the end it just never worked how it was supposed to. Worst $30.00 I spent.

You asked……

 @KK11: Sorry to hear that, we have had very few riders have problems with them at all. Of course it wont fit all frames was they vary so much but when it fits, most riders have been are than happy with the results.

 @ReverseComponents: ok…and?

 @KK11: Just sent you a private message, if it broke - simple ! We can offer a warranty replacement.

 Glad to hear you've been finding it useful !

 Don't worry about it.. plush is new firm!

 Don't worry, Rockshox will release a nut sack attendant that will automatically adjust your nut sack sag whenever someone stares at your nuts.

 You may not want it, but you're gonna get it. Old man sag is real.

 Nah man, "long, low, and slack" is the new hotness.

 You just need to rise your brake levers up; this activates the balls cable and brings your balls back up.
@yoannbarelli did a full video about it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YHDpunS4yQ

 @barp: lol

 Larry David knows what you mean......

 Yeah, not sure why manufacturers don't do this already?

 Exactly. Sometimes people go down the rabbit hole of coming up with a complex solution to a simple problem.

 @cueTIP: last week it was reserve, this week it’s reverse. Quite poetic really.

 Does your bump stop not swallow up the o-ring? Plus, it is still difficult to measure sag through a coil even with an indicator in place (I've tried by pushing up the bump-stop).

 Tried that. The o ring got attached to the bottom out bumper and it didnt work. Maybe to set sag one time but not to keep on the bike.

 I did something similar but used one of the millions of hair elastic laying out the house. With a hair elastic you can just wrap it around the shaft, check that your sag is in the right range, then remove it... and more importantly, put the hair elastic back in the bathroom drawer where they belong!

 @deiru: I’m not the only one hahaha! (wife and two younger daughters here, never need to go all the way to the bathroom to find one)

 We have the piggyback mounted Travel & Sag Indicator which can be mounted without removal of the shock or spring, so that sounds like it could work for you. The 2.0 was made specifically for riders with inline coils or non-standard piggybacks shocks.

 If you spray them with a bit of contact adhesive first you'll find the dust sticks a bit better.

 You don't get it for free since the only way is to use the bumper, which is quite hard to move around and you do not get any gradients for bottomout.
However, this thing is not convenient to use, it starts squeaking when both ends misalign and/or gets a little dirt inside.

 @lkubica: if it squeaks for 0.3m/s then you have 10mm sag. if it sqeaks for 20m/s this is 30mm sag and correctly set up for DH. easy

 @browner: didn't think about it, so it's a feature then. cool

 Thanks for the feedback. At the moment we don't have a Canadian distributor, we're working on this and hope to be able to sell in Canada soon. Some of our US based online shops might be able to ship to you once we have stock.

 Same here... The metal "ring/plate" bent after some rough trails. The 3D printed part will slide up and down the piggy if not tight enough or destroy the sticker on the piggy.

 @Spooky-Asparagus: Hey guys, sorry to hear that, it shouldn't happen. Please give us an email on info@reverse-components.com and we'll help you out.

 This is also the most accurate way when shock travel to wheel travel isn't a fixed value (pretty much all bikes)

 O-ring on the shaft is a cheaper alternative to viagra.

 Yeah, so simple to mesure the sag with a friend! I would still like to have one of these to see how much travel I am using..

 yes

 Yes, it designed to be used when setting up your bike to clearly check your travel usage while riding.

 interesting. I have one too, kept it on literally for 6 months straight, riding 2-3 times a week, with very minimal wear to the number indicators. the reason why I took it off was simply just because I wanted to.

 Thanks for the positive feedback! We have a bunch of bikeshops who have these and use them with their customers for setting up their spring rate, it's especially good if they can loan coil shocks for customers for test laps test before buying - and the Travel and Sag Indicator is part of the process of getting it dialled in.

 Reverse ≠ Reserve

 @AlexRob: I know that. I meant THEM.

 @AlexRob: reverse Reverse to write reserve, therefore Reverse^2 = Reserve.

 lol