they're not that expensive and they're amazing. I've used them on my bikes, for carpentry, for metal working and for just fixing stuff around the house. CONSUME
@Upduro: don’t worry, I’ve already succumbed to that. Do I need a $200 titanium shop hammer? No. Would I be willing to eat ramen for a month to make it happen, very likely.
I'm puzzled. I don't use pliers much at all working on bikes. maybe to tension a cable when replacing inners or housing but i think that's it. What are other folks using their pliers for?
@Leethal-1: so, more for gear bag carry than for shop use i guess? ..I have so few wrench flats on my bikes now, almost entirely hex socket so apart from pedals i hardly ever reach for a box end even.
@Kark: I use my plier wrench on my fork top caps and other suspension bits during service or to change volume spacers. That's about all the use on a modern mountain bike. I also use them on my sons bike as that still has nutted axles
@JDugan: oh, yeah. I'd forgotten. I have used channel locks on top caps when I couldn't find my large adjustable wrench so a pair of knipex would have been a nicer tool for sure and maybe wouldn't have left the nasty marks behind. ..still can't see calling it my favourite though, but :shrug: to each their own.
@Kark: careful listening to all these plumbers and lawnmower mechanix tempting you to use pliers and crescent wrenches on your precision bicycle. The sad thing is a "pro" mechanic flashed his as his favorite tool.Don't touch my bike thank you very much.
@Kark: I use mine for stripping Reverbs mainly, the fact that they clamp down on the component means that they're a lot kinder to aluminium fittings and fittings that have had the edges rounded off previously.
@TheBearDen: what? Knipex is average at best. It clamps ok but not well. Why are you hyping up glorified channel locks? Btw most use spanners for suspension damper work. Less sloppy
@two2pedal: I hear you. not at all tempted either, but was curious. I've spent enough time in professional tool use environments to have been taught to use the right tool for the job.
but of course tools are expensive and it takes awhile to build a good set. I also get that lots of folks will prioritize that money to tires or a dropper or replace the rim they caved in or whatever. Maybe then a pair of knipex is a good do-anything tool. for them.
But i'm still amazed a bike mechanic would choose them as a favourite. There just aren't enough wrench flats on a modern bike to warrant it.
@Kark: they aren't super common except on pinkbike. I have a set at work I never use. They don't work well for most industrial electrical installations. They don't grip enough and they don't handle abuse very well. For suspension work I prefer socket sets and flat wrenches.
People bagging on Knipex pliers haven't realized the multitude of uses they have, which makes them great for mechs that have to carry their tools around. Of course job specific tools are going to be better, but if one tool can replace 5 others why would a PRO race mechanic carry more than needed?
@two2pedal: also bearing press in some instances, holds straight pull spokes, bend rim dings back, various other things but I'm at work at the mo. It's usually in a situation where I'm struggling to find a solution to a problem and I suddenly think 'ah yes, the Knipex pliers'.
Without watching: - Knipex pliers - Wera hex keys and screwdrivers - Some ridiculously pricey but awesome Abbey tools - One ingeniously self-made tool that should be made available ASAP
Alright that custom built steerer tube tool to hold the headset together and attach the bars to is what I've been searching for my entire life. Now I know why I couldn't find one!
Don't forget the tool like this with the 'Fox steerer' tube will be approximately twice the price of the next competitor which will do the job pretty much just as well...
Spoken truth. It’s amazing what crap tools we used back in the day to keep our bikes running. I remember dropping $17 on a full set of metric Bondhaus allens and thinking that was expensive. Crazy thing is, I still use em and they’re going on 20+ years.
If you have a fastener like this come loose and you grease the threads instead of the head, don't call yourself a mechanic. A simple washer also handles that issue long-term.
Yeah that was an odd tip. Back in the 'Azonic Headlock' days, I'd install that, tighten my headset and then remove it completely! No top cap at all and my headset never came loose. Gotta save weight on that 40lb freeride hardtail
This is super cool, for me I love my Husky mini ratchet and 2.5,3.4.5.6 1/4in Allen sockets way faster then Allen wrenches. As a part time bike mech for a local shop I built my pelican case tool box this year, it's so much better than digging around in a tool box or bag like a trash panda.
The quality and overall fit and finish of Knipex are exceptional and even prefer over Snap-on (or Fap off as AvE says) for the high-end stuff. Proto the best valve with and Klein Tool, Wiha kinda sit in the middle.
We use a rotary tool with a cratex wheel to cut foam reliefs at work. It is amazing how precise you can make them. Shadow foam gives it that pro touch and makes it very easy to see what needs to be replaced.
just a story about some kids who worked for me through the years ... good kids but, not the sharpest tools in the shed.
Story One: I used to buy this ArmorAll foam stuff for cleaning bikes. One day I tell my boyee to clean off a bike that was in the work stand. I continue with what I was doing for a while. The work area was directly behind a half-wall where I was standing at the computer. Suddenly, i hear this hsssssssssssssssssssss noise. Didnt think much of it, thought maybe someone was putting air in or out of a tire. The hsssssssssssssss continues for a while. Occupied with what I was doing, it still didnt register what that noise was. THEN IT DID... oh shit, he's spraying something with the ArmorAll. I rush around the corner and see the bike I told him to clean completely covered with foam. It looked like a bike version of the Stay-Puff guys from Ghost Busters.. Instant regret. The bike had disc brakes and that ArmorAll is an oil based product. I had to replace the pads and rotors cuz the kid took me too literally.
Since bike parts are relatively small, i always keep a small box(size of a pork chop) with a random assortment of bolts and weird bits from old bikes and broken parts(old chain quick links, tubeless valves, mm screws/bolts, derailleur parts, headset spacers, etc). I probably pull that out of my bike box more than most tools.
I have a serious tool buying addiction but even I can’t justify forking over $200 for that Decade chain tool from Abbey. However those laser cut foam trays on John Hall and Ben Arnott’s boxes are drool-worthy for sure.
And not even one lathe to make internal floating pistons to replace the shit ones from fox and others, and to machine bomb proof bushings. Oh and if you need branded boutique specific tools to be a mechanic you're not one, you are a just o bot...
Not one three way wrench. Some people love them. I despise them. It’s like a USB only more ways to get it wrong. Plus many times they are too bulky to fit where you’re trying to use it. I’m going to have to look for these Knipex pliers. I’ve read about them often but never seen one in the flesh.
Silicone spray is also great on the cassette! Gritty grease, mud and forest spooge won't stick and it keeps the wear down somewhat. Just be careful not to get too carried away and have the over-spray hit the disc rotor.
It's a "ring marking plier" you can get at microstamp.us. It lets you crimp your name into the cable tip. Shameless plug, I was the first (that I know of) to do this. Then I got one for Brad Copeland and from there, a few others bought one for themselves.
Possibly the biggest contribution PB has made to my life.
What are other folks using their pliers for?
..still can't see calling it my favourite though, but :shrug: to each their own.
The sad thing is a "pro" mechanic flashed his as his favorite tool.Don't touch my bike thank you very much.
Cause if you don't, and you send that out to the Pros... I promise you a set of knipex have been used on your precision suspension parts.
You're welcome very much
I've spent enough time in professional tool use environments to have been taught to use the right tool for the job.
but of course tools are expensive and it takes awhile to build a good set. I also get that lots of folks will prioritize that money to tires or a dropper or replace the rim they caved in or whatever. Maybe then a pair of knipex is a good do-anything tool. for them.
But i'm still amazed a bike mechanic would choose them as a favourite. There just aren't enough wrench flats on a modern bike to warrant it.
- Knipex pliers
- Wera hex keys and screwdrivers
- Some ridiculously pricey but awesome Abbey tools
- One ingeniously self-made tool that should be made available ASAP
The one in the video is pretty smart though, nice and compact for a travel kit.
I've got an old Boxxer crown/steerer that I use at home.
www.parktool.com/product/dummy-fork-df-1?category=Headset
bikerumor.com/2020/05/05/park-tool-makes-service-smarter-w-dummy-fork-tool-electric-shift-tool-and-reuseable-overhaul-mat
I believe this is the tool in question.
For eating up slack in the long stem faceplate bolts these are a godsend since you can palm the wrench and spin it in or out. (not sure why the pic isn't loading on the page)
www.wihatools.com/precision-ball-end-hex-metric-screwdrivers
these are handy as well for some frozen seat posts without using a pipe wrench
www.protoindustrial.com/en/industrial-tools/Proto/Pliers%2C-Snips-%26-Clamps/Pliers/J253G_Proto®-Soft-Jaw-Cannon-Plug-Pliers---9-1%7C2%22
Story One:
I used to buy this ArmorAll foam stuff for cleaning bikes. One day I tell my boyee to clean off a bike that was in the work stand. I continue with what I was doing for a while. The work area was directly behind a half-wall where I was standing at the computer. Suddenly, i hear this hsssssssssssssssssssss noise. Didnt think much of it, thought maybe someone was putting air in or out of a tire. The hsssssssssssssss continues for a while. Occupied with what I was doing, it still didnt register what that noise was. THEN IT DID... oh shit, he's spraying something with the ArmorAll. I rush around the corner and see the bike I told him to clean completely covered with foam. It looked like a bike version of the Stay-Puff guys from Ghost Busters.. Instant regret. The bike had disc brakes and that ArmorAll is an oil based product. I had to replace the pads and rotors cuz the kid took me too literally.
However those laser cut foam trays on John Hall and Ben Arnott’s boxes are drool-worthy for sure.
www.fredisatool.com
magic.
Shameless plug, I was the first (that I know of) to do this. Then I got one for Brad Copeland and from there, a few others bought one for themselves.
Building my toolbox
www.offstreetonly.com/product/oso-shock-dyno-2020
Jerky boy fans?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ElThr0GNd4
Kuh-nip-ex per www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NCCtOOIzE8