Nukeproof Mega TR - Review

Oct 28, 2013
by Matt Wragg  
 
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REVIEW
Nukeproof Mega TR

WORDS Matt Wragg
PHOTOS Alex Boyce

Since Nukeproof re-emerged on the market a few years ago their Mega trailbike has gained a strong, and growing, following. Originally it was a 150-millimeter-travel mountain smasher - affordable and built tough for durability in the big mountains. More than a few trail guiding companies in Europe opted for the Mega as their bike of choice. It's the kind of punishment that few bikes can stand, yet many of those Megas are still going strong several guiding seasons later. Reliability, however, is meaningless if the bikes are no good, and the fact they have kept rolling is largely because their owners wanted to keep riding them. In 2012, Nukeproof split the Mega range into two, with the AM carrying on the heavy-duty lineage and a new model, the TR, offering slightly lower weight, shorter travel and a more agile handling package. Next year, Nukeproof are shifting their full range of complete bikes to 27.5-inch wheels, but they will still be offering 26-inch framesets, so we decided to put one to the test.

Details:

• Purpose: Trail/All-mountain/Enduro
• Frame: Aluminum, single-pivot rear suspension, 130mm travel
• Wheel size: 26"
• Shock: RockShox Monarch RT3
• Fork: RockShox Revelation 140mm travel
• 67° head angle
• 430mm chainstays
• Sizes: Small, medium, large (tested), X-large
• Weight: 6.49lbs (2.95kg - without shock)
• MSRP: Frame and shock - $2159.99

The Frame


Nukeproof’s Mega TR frame is slimmed down from the AM version, but it is still a pretty substantial bike. The tapered head tube is big enough to accommodate the larger, lower race of the headset without flaring out at the base and the entire upper raced is also recessed. On the front, sits a beefy, metal Nukeproof headbadge, something you don't see often these days. The rectangular-profile down tube and top tube are big, and curved just enough to keep the bike on the right side of industrial-looking. Behind the head tube, the top and down tubes are joined for a full three inches. You're going to need to do something pretty heroic to rip the head tube off this frame.

  (Clockwise from the top left) The huge gusset behind the head tube; The seat tube brace is a good example of the tubing - shaped just enough to keep it on the right side of industrial; The internal seatpost routing above the bottom bracket; One of the many Nukeproof logos on the bike.

Working back along the frame, there is no doubt that the bike is made by Nukeproof - it has the Nukeproof logo on it no less than seven times, not counting the Nukeproof-branded headset and seat collar spec’d on our test bike. It's great to see the option to run an internally-routed dropper post, with the entry point on the front of the seat tube at the base. Around the bottom bracket are ISCG05 mounts for a chainguide. Heading to the back of the bike there are more big, square tubes for the chainstays and seatstays. It all finishes with a 142 x 12-millimeter rear axle to keep the back nice and stiff.

Suspension

  (Clockwise from the top left) The RockShox Monarch shock that keeps everything in order; The rocker linkage that controls the shock; That all-important pivot - it's placement above the axle defines how the system works; Behind the pivot is a big, forged section to add stiffness to the rear end.

Nukeproof’s Erosion Link suspension system is essentially a single-pivot layout, with the upper part of the linkage controlling the movement of the shock. At first glance, it may look like a true four-bar linkage, but the detail that separates it from such bikes is that the back pivot is above the rear axle, so the rear wheel moves in a simple arc from the swingarm pivot above the bottom bracket. Driving the shock is a small, machined rocker link that pivots from the top tube.

The Spec

While we are only reviewing the frame here, but it is worth mentioning the spec because Nukeproof sent it us with one of their standard builds, which tells a lot about what they have in mind for this bike. To put it simply, they want you to ride this bike hard. It came with a wide Nukeproof Warhead 760-millimeter handlebar and a Nukeproof Warhead 60-millimeter stem to match, a 1 x 10 drivetrain with a proper chainguide. Tyres were some of our favorites: a soft, Supertacky compound Maxxis High Roller on the front and a harder, MaxxPro version on the rear. We can't think of many companies who are willing to push the boat on a spec like this for a bike with only 130 millimeters of travel, but we approve whole-heartedly.

  (Clockwise from the top left) The 150mm RockShox Revelation fork that sat out front on our test bike; 36-tooth chainring and a full chainguide mean this bike is ready for the roughest of trails; Avid's Elixir 5 brakes and a SRAM X7 drivetrain make the bike stop and go; Spec'ing a Supertacky compound on the front tire is a wonderful touch.

Most of the components on our Mega TR were provided by SRAM and Nukeproof. SRAM X7 takes on most of the drivetrain duties, except for the rear derailleur, which is the X9 with the Type 2 clutch, while the crank is a Truvativ Descendant with a single-ring setup. Stopping is handled by Avid’s cheap and cheerful Elixir 5 brakes. Suspension is handled by a 32-millimeter-stanchion RockShox Revelation fork, paired with a Monarch RT3 shock. Nukeproof Generator TR wheels and a Nukeproof Mega saddle finish off the build.



Riding the
Mega TR



Climbing: The Mega TR isn't the lightest bike out there, which obviously counts against it a little bit when you are going climbing. That said, the full lockout option on the Monarch shock was a real bonus and left it almost feeling like a hardtail. Our test bike was a large frame for a 5-foot, 9-inch rider and the position this gave us for climbing was fantastic, it really opened up the chest to help us breathe.

On fire road climbs we could happily sit and knock out the miles. We went riding with some of the scary-fast XC riders around Sospel, where we put the bike to the test, climbing on the hiking paths around the town. Here it genuinely surprised us, how easily it let us keep pace with them. We simply did not expect a bike this burly to go so well uphill. The 67-degree head angle was spot on for picking a line up a steep section. The TR didn't wander at all. Sometimes on this kind of terrain, we could notice the compact, 430-millimeter chainstays and we almost found ourselves wishing they were a touch longer. In fact, Nukeproof appear to have discovered the same thing, as the 27.5-inch-wheel version of the frame has longer, 440-millimeter stays.

Riding 1
  The bike encourages you to play with every inch of the trail

Descending: To get the Mega TR up to speed, you need to get involved, it's a very lively bike and once you start pumping the terrain it quickly accelerates. On the more flowy trails, where the bike was tested, the TR reminded us why bikes with 120 to 130-millimeters of travel can feel so good. The Mega TR hits a sweet spot for riders who like to play with the trail. Setting the shock wide open, there is just enough forgiveness in the bike to take risks, but there is also an immediacy to the handling - something that you inevitably lose with a longer travel bike. The Mega TR changes direction very well and feels much lighter on the downs than the scale suggests it should.

On fast, technical terrain, the Mega TR’s love for speed encouraged us to pick up pace, but the problem was what to do with it? The bike’s 67-degree head angle, combined with the 32-millimeter-stanchion RockShox Revelation fork and its single-ply tyres left us with few options to get us out of trouble. When our lines were precise and we were able commit to the trail, the TR was trustworthy, but the line between success and disaster was a very fine one.

Braking and Suspension: The Mega TR’s suspension design isn't the best under braking. We found out quickly that we either had to be completely off the brakes or be braking hard. Trying to moderate speed continuously left the bike feeling uncomfortable. In the downhill environment, if you are a very confident and precise rider, the Nukeproof has the potential to be a very quick bike, but less confident riders may find it hard to live with.

Riding 3
  It is a quick bike on rocky terrain, but only if you commit

In steep, low speed technical sections, the problems with the suspension layout under braking really came to the fore. Near the bottom of one of our local loops is a set of ugly rock steps, they are jagged, uneven and constantly moving under the wheels. The Mega TR wasn't enough bike to try and plough through them, but to pick our way down on the brakes meant that we had to fight to keep the bike from constantly trying to build up speed. The suspension was very unforgiving under braking, leaving us feeling like we were jarring from one rock to the next. This is a problem with many single-pivot-swingarm suspension designs, so take the Nukeproof’s suspension layout into consideration along with your local trails.

Pinkbike's Take:
As bikes become lighter, faster and more efficient, one thing that is sometimes forgotten in the march of progress is fun. The Mega TR doesn't fit into any of the common categories people use to pigeon-hole bikes. Most other bikes with similar suspension travel are lighter with bigger wheels, bikes with similar specs tend to be longer-travel machines. Sitting outside all this, it is simply a fun, fast-handling bike, affordably priced and designed to be ridden hard. We would be very interested to try this bike with a burlier fork, like the Revelation's big brother, the Pike, as the speed you could pick up so easily left you feeling under-gunned with 32mm stanchions out front. We suspect it isn't the bike for everyone, but in the hands of the right rider, the Mega TR has the potential to be a hell of a lot of fun. - Matt Wragg



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156 Comments

  • + 112
 it has wheels, they go around. Looks good.
  • + 6
 Seconded
  • + 55
 The thing i like about this bike is its not over the top or extravagant in any way possible, its a bike. There isn't 547 cables running from the handlebars, no unusual wheel sizes, no 'revolutionary' suspension linkages, the parts are directed towards the fun and reliable factor etc. Its a no nonsense bike - simple but in a refreshing way. Anymore simple it would be a hard tail.
  • + 15
 Nice frame but 130mm is a hair too short for me, a bit too much on the xc side. Hopefully Nuke makes a 160mm frame only in the politically correct 26" platform. Vote 26" for president in 2014!
  • + 9
 Sortah - They are making a 170mm version of this called the Mega AM so I'm sure that'll be more to your taste. It comes with pikes. I have one of these arriving this week.. exciting!
  • + 19
 Good, this is what ppl on this website have been whining about when it comes to a FS bike Review. Reasonably priced do everything trail bike. Good Work PB
  • + 2
 170 sounds perfect, hopefully similar weight to this frame. Good luck with the new bike, I'm jealous. Definitely considering a Nuke on my next build and that Mega AM could be the one.
  • + 4
 uhhhhh ok i'll mention the elephant in the room: aluminum frame selling for 2200 $$ WTF?? can you say "unaffordable"?
  • + 6
 its basically a £ to $ conversion, the frame is actually considered well priced in the uk at £1300, an alloy bronson frame is £1800 or roughly $3000.
  • + 4
 As said above, over here it's one of the cheaper frames in it's market around! You guys must get Santa Cruz pretty cheaply over there? They are always very expensive here.
  • + 3
 SORTAH and jezzah, the Nukeproof Mega AM has 160mm rear travel.
  • + 2
 I believe an alloy Bronson is $1900 American, so one more reason to buy local, wherever local is for you.
  • + 3
 Whoa!!! A 26 inch!!! Haven't seen one in awhile! They were damn good when I was growing up. Hahah!!
Nice looking bike. Anyone remember the old nuke proof titanium frames that the frame builders would put the acetylene torch to the tubes and it would give a distinct purple haze colour to the titanium? Or the crazy titanium hubs!! Yes I'm old!,
  • + 0
 I broke a Nukeproof once... lol no I didn't!
  • + 2
 AND it looks great; can't forget that
  • + 1
 still 2200 is about a DH frame price tag.. i dont get it.. nukeproof used to be buyer friendly ?
to finish off
"we could notice the compact, 430-millimeter chainstays and we almost found ourselves wishing they were a touch longer. In fact, Nukeproof appear to have discovered the same thing, as the 27.5-inch-wheel version of the frame has longer, 440-millimeter stays."
what is this.. adverttising for ants ! this sentence scored high on the commonsense meter..
  • + 3
 They definitely didn't make the stays longer to fit the larger wheels...
  • + 1
 well at some point they had to.. and its an all together package i think.. the frames are redesigned around the new wheel size..
either that .. or they are making sure 26 bikes will handle not so good.. so they have "proof" that 27.5 is better lol
  • + 38
 I like the quote about 430mm chainstays being too short and that nukeproof discovered the same and are lengthening the 27.5" version to 440mm. Are PB missing the fact that the chainstays might need to be longer to fit a larger wheel??? lol
  • + 5
 my norco range killer B has a 427mm chainstay and i couldnt be happier with its playful character. suspension design is amazing and i wouldnt want a longer chainstay at all. maybe a short one doesnt work for all bikes...
  • + 9
 Short chainstays are good I agree my point was that for a bigger wheel generally you need a longer chainstay to keep the tyre clearance. The reviewer seemed to think nukeproof agree with him that it needs a longer chainstay but what they've really gone and done is lengthen it to accommodate the bigger wheel not because it needs longer stays...
  • + 2
 ah okay thanks..i have 27.5 as well and enough clearance though. cheers
  • + 1
 That's what I was thinking, probably can't fit 27.5" wheels with the shorter 430mm chainstays... ha
  • - 7
flag pintsize (Oct 28, 2013 at 14:38) (Below Threshold)
 have you guys ever actually tested longer and short chainstays on a bike? probably not If you ride like a grandma short chainstays are fine but it you want grip for climbing and technical descending you need long chainstays. other wise you have a bike that looses traction easily when climbing and is a skitty losse bike at descending.
  • + 4
 My 419mm chainstays disagree with you. They also enjoy traveling sideways in a very controllable fashion.
  • - 4
flag pintsize (Oct 28, 2013 at 17:54) (Below Threshold)
 They wouldn't be going sideways if they were a decent size chainstay! They would be holding grip and carrying more speed down the trail. It is a very simple equation were longer wheelbases have more grip and more stability. "Short chainstays" are fashionable word which will die out when people realise
  • + 4
 Geometry is only meaningful in combination with all other geometry variables on a bike. Each variable has its influence, but they work in concert.
  • + 3
 Why couldn't u have 430mm chainstays with 27.5? Of course you can. They do not need to be longer than 430mm. My 29er has 440mm chainstays (HT).

The Pivot Mach 6 is a 27.5 bike with 430mm chainstays. The Scott Spark 27.5 has 433mm chainstays etc.

So Nukeproof could have totally had 430mm chainstays if they wanted..
  • + 24
 $2159.99 for a single pivot aluminum frame. Am I the only one who thought that's a bit much considering the option out there?
  • + 8
 I think that might be a typo and that's the price for the whole bike, not just the frame!!

In UK the frame is £1250 and whole bike circa £2200 and you usually have the same price in $.
  • + 4
 I was under the impression that the exchange rate was .06lbs to 1 dollar meaning the frame at $2159 is roughly 1250lbs. The complete rig would therefore run about 3500 which sounds about right for the spec .
  • + 2
 Still kinda pricey for a single pivot, aluminum, 130mm trail bike without dropper seat post or Pike, and with more common 26" wheels. By comparison, the Kona Process 153, Norco Sight, Giant Trance, Santa Cruz Hecker and Devinci Troy all offer better specs for less money or cheaper build altogether.
  • + 2
 Al bronson complete under $3k.
  • + 3
 @s100mph plus - GBP, your money, trades at about £1 to our $1.50. so your frame for £1250 is about $1900, alot closer to the $2100 pricepoint that was mentioned here. Would be nice if our currencies had the same purchasing power, everything over there would be so cheap and I would have money left over!
  • + 1
 RRP Over here for the full build is £2700, Frame is £1250. - Exact Values
  • + 1
 Currnent exchange rate is .62 GBP to 1 US Dollar.
That comes out to $2016.13 for the frame, $4354.84 for the bike. Plus whatever duties and freight to get it to the US.
The Euro is .85 GBP.
  • + 0
 Its at £2159.99 now; which is awesome for the money!
  • + 3
 Picked my Mega Tr frame and Monarch up in Vancouver for $1500 tax and shipping included. Its been a great bike so far, tks PB for doing the review
  • + 2
 Yeah I have to agree with PHeller, the Kona Process comes with a KS dropper, Pike, XT brakes, ect, and is very slightly more money. Better bang for the buck if you ask me. I don't quite understand ho wthis bike is so much.
  • + 1
 They don't bother with exchange rates, they just replace $ with £.
  • + 2
 dont forget to take 20% off the GBP price in the us$ conversion as there wont be VAT added.
  • + 1
 So $3440 roughly, before shipping costs. Still pretty darn expensive considering the build spec.
  • + 2
 That's one heavy frame taletotall, but with the going rate of aluminum $2160 is a pretty sweet deal
  • + 1
 @ PHeller its all relative, the entry level blur TR comes out at $5160 if you convert the uk price to dollars.
  • + 2
 Not sure about the shops, but a certain online store that owns Nukeproof (correct me if I'm wrong) NEVER sells these things at full price. The bike in the review is a discontinued model so I'll bet their giving 'em away free when you order a pair of gloves!
  • + 3
 @PHeller and ReformedRoadie. It's just a quirk of exchange rates, Nukeproof is relatively cheap in Europe, whilst the brands you listed charge the equivalent of thousands of dollars extra, the cheapest 2014 Process will be $3550 with a lower spec than the Mega, Santa Cruz start at $4190 for the cheapest Bantam/Heckler (Deore level, cheap forks and no dropper), the Sight starts at $3630 and the Troy from $4300, again all with lower specs than the Nukeproof. Giant are pretty good though.
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It's clearly not the best value on your side of the Atlantic, but over here we get roughly screwed by a lot of the US/Canada based brands and the Nuke is much better priced from our perspective.
  • + 2
 Its not a "quirk" of fx rates. The manufactures specifically price out products in USD and GBP, euro, etc regardless of how they actually convert to one another. One main cornerstone of their pricing is, will the consumers pay x USD or GBP or insert your currency here. That's capitalism for you.
  • + 2
 He's kind of right, what the market will bear is a factor. It's not just a direct % with exchange rate calculated. They sell them for "market" value.
  • + 14
 I wish Nukeproof would put their name on the bike somewhere!
  • + 10
 Anyone else struggle to work out what travel this bike is? 140mm rear, later becomes 130mm, fork is 150mm but "a 120-130mm bike can feel this good". Also the spec of the bike changed. Elixir 5s or 7s?
  • + 1
 I dont know about the brakes but Im 99% sure its 130mm rear and 150mm front on the stock full bike, but I think its capable of more up front if you build up a frame
  • - 1
 It doesn't say that the frame has 140mm, but it does say that the fork has 140mm at first.
  • + 3
 Tristanssid: It's got a 140mm fork and a 130mm shock. The drivetrain is X7 (with an X9 TYPE 2) while the brakes are X5's.
  • + 8
 I recently bought this frame and put some Fox 32 140mm forks on (which are a little under gunned) and boy is it great fun. It does everything thing I want from a trail bike; I can thrash it around trail centres or I can hit my local loops. It's one tough frameset, without incurring a massive weight penalty and is reasonably priced. It can climb fairly well, but it's so playful on the way back down. Overall, it just allows me to go out and have fun on my bike, which is exactly what I want.
  • + 4
 I think I'm one of the only people here who likes it. I've been looking for a replacement for my hardtail and FS XC bikes, and this looks like it could be a suitable replacement for my Norco Six as well. Plus I'm not planning on jumping to niners, and I'm still up in the air about 650b, so even better.
  • + 1
 That bike is a weapon. It can be used to do anything. The brake problems the Nuke has will only help you become a better and faster rider if you ask me. You may want to look into a similar bike with the 650b too. With advances in material/bike technology people are getting away with lighter less travel bikes on high impact DH lines. It's fun to ride nimble bikes that are easy to flick around but it takes a beating on the body. So if you don't get rest between your DH riding days. Or are aiming to get as many runs as possible at a bike park. You may still need a replacement for your Norco Six.
  • + 2
 Nukeproof is an awesome company! Living in Canada it's obviously not simply to get parts quickly when you really need them. For example, I lost a couple of hangar bolts and email Nukeproof about my situation. They shipped me not 1, but 2 sets of the bolts I needed...all at no charge. I am still blown away by their customer service, they have my patronage for life. Way to go Nukeproof!
  • + 1
 Hi guys,
Just ordered silver mega TR from chainreactioncycles for £1980. They are on sale right now. I wanted 26". I tested yeti, trek, specializeed and santa cruz for a last threee months on bigger wheels and decided to stay with 26". Not many available cheap and with a decent spec around. I am going to fit it with Gravity Dropper and I seriously hope that will keep me grinning whole 2014. Happy New Year!
  • + 2
 I got the tr as a frame only and built it up with fox 36 up front 160mm this bike rocks even ride some Dh tracks on it with no issues at all it's a flying machine when pointed down
  • + 1
 nice, was thinking of switching my 32 to a 36, good to know
  • + 1
 160 and 130 sounds like a wicked bike. (I always liked the Commencal hiphop which I think was a similarly mismatched, burly front-ended, trail bike.) Bet it feels ace.
  • + 2
 I'm a bit worried how a 5'9" rider got on fine with the large frame , was planning on owning a mega at some point for all-round bike , but at 6'3" doesn't sound like their large will fit me.
  • + 1
 They sell an XL frame only option as well.
  • + 1
 Oh I didn't realise that
  • + 1
 Im 6'2" and there XL fits me well, wouldn't want to be any taller on it though, should fit you though
  • + 1
 Nice review Matt. Thanks for your opinion. I was torn between this and my eventual choice, a Banshee Spitfire V2 frame.... shame there was nowhere to get a demo ride of a Mega TR in this country really! Come on Japanese bike dealers, get more demo frames for us to try out. I would have loved to be able to check this one out!
  • + 1
 Only thing this bike it missing is a dropper post which for me is an essential bit of kit for any bike aimed at the Trail/All-mountain/Enduro market. That side its an amazing looking bike
  • + 3
 A shame considering the frame is "reverb stealth" ready...
  • + 4
 That beefy metal head badge can sure take a beating.
  • + 1
 Don't see them often! I have 4 bikes with them.
  • + 2
 This is now last years bike and this review has been around for quite a while now. Where's the review of the 650b mega tr!? Plz
  • + 0
 This bike would be right at home on the trail in NY. Burly enough for jumps, but an efficient climber. Seems like 32 needs to end as a fork size. Every capable bike seems to need a little more upfront. 34 or 35 seems to do it.
  • + 8
 I like how nobody is into 32 forks anymore... For me and my style of riding it's plenty. I'm 150# and ride aggressive XC. So the 140-150mm platform on a 32mm stanchion fork is just right. Just picked up a Rev WC for 350 as a new take off. Keep 'em coming boys
  • + 1
 My 150 float 32 was flexy, had terrible dive, and generally had very little to recommend it. My buddies marz was good though. Maybe it had more to do with the fork itself. The pike is so light though it seems like you lose very little just stepping up a 35mm design.
  • + 1
 Then again, my wife's reba uturn (reba with scored innards turned into coil) seems to do just fine for agressive xc. Maybe 32 has a place, but not on a burly bike.
  • + 1
 Indeed. This Nukeproof, however, is a 130mm trailbike. If you want a bigger, burlier bike, go with their AM offerings, mated with a Lyrik, Fox 34 or the new Pike.
  • + 3
 Strange,every Part or Bike pinkbike Tests is awesome.come on Pb,Be serious sometimes
  • + 2
 They did say that it didn't behave that well under braking. Anyway, who would let ten test anything if they just said every second thug they tested was terrible?
  • + 1
 Damned auto correct
  • - 4
flag WAKIdesigns (Oct 28, 2013 at 6:19) (Below Threshold)
 Why are you so negative @ ytshredder?
  • + 2
 They said it is heavy and needs a fatter fork and better brakes. Otherwise it was a blast. Not any news there. Any reasonably well built bike will be a blast. The difference between a $3000 and a $5000 bike is usually the brakes and fork and the $7000 is usually light. That is why I buy them for $3000 and put better brakes and forks on them. For proof just check my buy/sell. A DB mission with a lyrik and elixer CRs Came with a float 32 and hayes strokers. Otherwise it was just like the next bike up the line.
  • + 3
 Strange, I see them say that a bike could perform better in certain areas ALL THE TIME.

Nevermind the fact they actually criticized it in this review and said it could be better in certain areas. But yeah no, you ignore the evidence (like everyone else) that shoots your argument to shit.
  • + 0
 @waki trying to get neg props again
  • + 1
 Great review. I almost completely agree with it. I have the bigger AM model with Pikes up front. It is one big fun bike. Likes going fast likes hitting big stuff.
www.vitalmtb.com/community/ADDZ,13551/setup,23474
  • + 1
 The frame and setup looks alot like CRCs Vitus Sommet Line. Subtle differences but very similar in design but the Vitus line is considerably cheaper with decent kit.
  • + 4
 26 inch.. YES!!!
  • + 3
 My mate has one, such a good bike, ride wells.
  • + 23
 Wouldn't he be better off with a bucket?
  • + 5
 I see what you did there LemonadeMoney ;-)
  • + 0
 Wait no he has the 150mm one actually haha
  • + 1
 Looks like a little beast, but I think the article sums it up well. Nice Job!
Longer chain stay in any case for the 27.5 isn't it?
  • + 1
 really interested in one of these. I can't decide between a med or lrg. i'm 5'10" and currently ride a medium transition transam. any help would be appeciated.
  • + 1
 Large, xl fits me and im 6'2"
  • + 1
 I bet it rails corners with a BB height of "0". I know it depends on what its built with, but not even a number for the stock spec?
  • + 1
 If only they did a better job on the decals and paint.. The glossy paint makes it look so cheap Anodised would make it look really awesome.
  • + 1
 "It is a quick bike on rocky terrain, but only if you commit" ---are there other bikes out there quick if you don't commit??
  • + 1
 Sweet bike. Burly . Single pivots climb very well. The 27,5 version wll b the ticket to all mtn bliss
  • + 0
 Are Nukeproof and Transition the same company?? Related in some way? Is it just me or do their lineups look extremely similar?
  • + 1
 Agreed. Pretty sure Transition is the innovator. I love my Bandit. Waaaay better graphics too.
  • + 1
 Could I be the only one wondering the reason this bike costs so much is the Nukeproof everything?
  • + 1
 Is it weird that the frame rocks a Rockshox Reverb sticker but the post is a NukeProof?
  • + 2
 looks like a transition bandit on steroids..
  • + 1
 So is it a 140mm RS revelation under your spec guide or a 150mm RS Revelation in one of the photo captions?
  • + 1
 It's essentially identical to the 26" Transition Bandit. Which is awesome. So this is probably awesome too.
  • + 2
 Nukeproof rock
  • + 1
 How come it says that it's a single pivot mech???
  • + 2
 The rear wheel only pivots around one point (the pivot above the BB) so it's a single pivot, the other linkages only affect the actuation of the shock.
  • + 1
 Just ordered the silver frame from CRC $1300 AUD can't go wrong
  • + 2
 Nice rubber mallet :-)
  • + 1
 love the tire set up! ......
  • - 1
 I wonder how much Nukeproof pays Transition to copy the Bandit? Looks just about identical to me.
  • - 1
 Looks rad, almost identical to the Transition Bandit? transitionbikes.com/2013/Bikes_Bandit26_1.cfm
  • + 1
 The Killer Bee
  • + 1
 HOOSKER DO
  • - 2
 Enduro bike with 26 inch and 130mm travel? Hummm strange.
  • + 0
 whats wrong with 26?
maybe strange at 140 and 130 travel
  • + 10
 It's not an enduro bike!! the tr stands I presume for trail, they have an am bike for "enduro".
  • + 10
 130 is plenty
  • + 6
 Before buying a similar Blur TR I was a bit scared that it might be a bit too small for the big mountains. But I tossed a Lyrik into it and it prooved to be very capable in Hafjell. On home trails I ride with 140 32 Float and it's spot on. The best of both worlds would be Pike with dual position system. It's always been the case, it is the fork you use that sets the character of the bike.
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 @lottsdave if tr means trail, am doesn't need enduro but allmountain. BUT, enduro is not a bike, it's what you ride with it.
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 Didn't think I would have to be that obvious and people would understand what I was meaning!?
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 And the 36 chainring with 10 speed cassete will not go up any trail around my house...
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 Do you live in the Enduro Mountains?
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 I live where there is mountains with trails and I know that an 36x36 gear is not made to go uphill. If you have the power to go yo an uphill of One hour with a gear like that you should race superenduro
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 It depends on few things. Let's say we leave human factor out and we focus on gear and terrain. I think your lowest gearing ratio will depend mainly on the following:
1.Combined rim, tube and tyre weight
2.surface of the uphill trail
3.steepness of the trail
4.total climb length

If for some reeason you must have 2ply tyres on your 5-6" bike (rough DH sections + aggro style?) then double ring setup or XX1 is a must for any longer climb. But most Enduro bikes are fine with 1ply tyres with reinforced casings run tubeless. So 34t front with 36trear might be an option. Then if terrain allows to run something like Spec Butcher/Purgatorymagic combo, on carbon rims, particularly on a 29er then you can climb anything on 1:1, you just might know about it. I think in many cases people don't velieve they are able to push a single ring. At the same time I realize there might be terrains in which lower gear ratios are a necessity
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 The gearing on a bike is always going to be of personal preference really, and will depend on where you are riding. It's hard to offer a gearing solution that is optimal for everyone as stock on a bike, as a lot of people will manage OK with 1x10 as they don't have hella mountains on their doorstep, so will benefit from the security of a chainguide. Whereas people in a situation like yours would benefit from the extra gears of a 2 or 3x10 set up.
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 @ Waki - You need to be fit to push a 1:1 on a all mountain rig. I'd say you are right, there are many who could prob do it, and personally I forced myself into it for chain retention reasons years ago. These days I want to go to a 34 on the front to be honest and I do some steep climbs. In regards to tires, If you ride where there are sharp rocks, and I do, more than your ordinary single ply is needed. I like the EXO Maxxis tires for this as there is minimal weight penalty.
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 Waki, you're forgetting frame geo: slacker bikes are less useful with lower gear ratios, due to front wheel float\wander. This effect is multiplied by technical terrain (It's a lot easier to stay hunched forward over the front wheel on a fire road than a rocky trail.) It's quite amazing how much difference a little extra weight on the front tire can provide for climbing.
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 @darkstar - yes indeed. 1:1 is a domain of the stronger riders and owners of super light wheels riding not so steep trails. But if you get light enough wheels and tyres you can really do it with a bit of quality strength work out and cardio work.
@Groghunter - I used to have a problem with slack (67) bikes on technical climbs which require steering precision. But no more since I bought a longish Blur TR put 140 fork on it (67,5deg), 50mm stem, and started to stand up more. Short stem destabilizes the bike along with shifting your weight forward when standing - no more trouble really! I was swearing on slack trail bikes myself. I have to put 160 Lurik that puts ha at 66 to make the bike feel like a drunk donkey on steepest and rockiest climbs, though they aren'tthat long.

Great input guyz!
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 Sure, but is 67.5 really that slack? my (admittedly closer to freeride than trail) AM bike is probably closer to 65.5 to 66 (a crappy smartphone app actually says it's 64.) At that point, XX1 doesn't even make sense: I hardly use the 36t on the 10 speed cassette with a 32t chain-ring. This is of course only in relation to 26": people seem to forget that for a given gearing, changing the wheel diameter changes the final gear-inch calculation, which is far more relevant than the direct gear ratio. When you start looking at the gear-in results for the same ratio on different wheelsizes, certain things like the 28t front on XX1 start to make sense: you need that small of a chain-ring in order to keep the final gear-in close to a 32t on a 26" wheel.
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