Rose Uncle Jimbo 2 - Review

May 4, 2015
by David Arthur  
Rose Uncle Jimbo 2 review

German direct-sales bike manufacturers have been making a significant impact on the cycling market in recent years, with the likes of Canyon and YT Industries making waves with well designed and well spec'd bikes. Not to be outdone, Rose has given its 165mm Uncle Jimbo enduro/trail bike a complete overhaul for 2015, with an updated frame and an upgrade to 27.5" wheels.

The Uncle Jimbo is available in three stock builds, and starts life at £1,838.56 ($2566 USD, plus additional shipping costs) but our test bike has a few changes and costs £1,892.56. At that price the bike comes equipped with a 160mm RockShox Pike RCT3 fork and Monarch Plus RC3 rear shock, a Shimano Deore XT and RaceFace Respond 2x10 transmission, SRAM Guide RSC brakes, RockShox Reverb dropper post, Schwalbe Hans Dampf tyres and Spank Spike Race 28 wheels and matching 777mm handlebars and 50mm stem. You can change any part of the build too; the Rose website has an easy to use bike configurator that allows you to build the bike just the way you want it, and everything from the suspension to the wheels, tires and handlebars can be upgraded from a plethora of available choices.


Uncle Jimbo 2 Details

• Intended use: Trail/Enduro
• Rear-wheel travel: 165mm
• Wheel size: 27.5"
• Head angle: 66°
• Four-bar suspension layout
• Hydroformed 7005 aluminum frame
• Drivetrain: Shimano and RaceFace
• Brakes: SRAM Guide
• Fork: RockShox Pike RCT3 165mm
• Shock: RockShox Monarch Plus RC3
• Weight: 14.51kg / 32lbs
• MSRP: £1,838.56, $2566 USD
• Contact: Rose Bikes




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Suspension makes the bike and the Rose packs some impressive RockShox kit

Rose Uncle Jimbo - review
Smartly hydroformed frame tubes and a full strip of clear protective tape on the down tube


Frame and Suspension Design

Rose updated its key trail bikes for 2015, and they all share a visually similar frame. Featuring rounded-square hydroformed 7005 tubes with a lower dropped top tube for more standover clearance, it’s a clean and smart looking bike, a big improvement on last year’s slightly 'agricultural' looking design. While it retains the same basic four-bar layout, the rocker linkage assembly has been reconfigured. It's still a four bar with a Horst linkage at the end of the chainstay, but the Rose engineers made changes in an attempt to improve pedalling efficiency and to produce a more progressive action from the rear shock. The rather more fundamental change is the transition to 27.5" wheels, it used to be a 26" bike last year, but Rose has gradually been moving its entire range of trail and all-mountain bikes over to the bigger wheel size.


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  Rose sticks with a four bar suspension but has updated the linkage assembly with the shock attached to the new curved top tube

The Uncle Jimbo's frame is brimming with modern details. There’s the internal cable routing which is extremely well done, top marks to the designers for managing the cable routing, and I had no issues throughout the test. There’s a 12x142mm bolt-thru rear axle, ISCG05 mounts and a nicely designed forward-facing seatpost quick release - a small item but one that shows good attention to detail. Another nice attention to detail is the clear protective tape adorning the underside of the down tube, to protect the paint from rock strikes. One omission on the updated frame is the lack of bottle cage mounts - the low position of the shock doesn’t make space for a bottle - so don’t forgot your hydration pack before hitting the trails.



Specifications
Release Date 2015
Price $2566
Travel 165mm
Rear Shock RockShox Monarch Plus RC3
Fork RockShox Pike RCT3
Crankarms RaceFace Respond 2x10 with bashguard
Bottom Bracket RaceFace
Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore XT Shadow Plus
Chain Shimano XT
Shifter Pods Shimano Deore XT
Handlebar Spank Spike 777mm
Stem Spank Spike 50mm
Grips Ergon GE1
Brakes SRAM Guide RSC
Wheelset Spank Spike Race 28
Tires Schwalbe Hans Dampf
Seat SDG
Seatpost Rockshox Reverb






Climbing

Some 165mm bikes are a handful on the climbs and make you wish you’d taken the uplift option. At 32lb the Rose isn’t going to win any hill climbing competitions, but I was pleasantly surprised with how well the Uncle Jimbo masks its weight on the way up. On smoother easy gradient fireroad drags there’s enough gearing to find the right ratio and sit and spin all the way to the top, and allow you to conserve enough energy for the ensuing descent, especially handy if you’re training for an enduro (which everyone is these days right?).

Many of my local trails are typified by very short and steep climbs, the surface covered in a messy tangle of tree roots. These are the sort of trails that really test a bike's climbing ability, and while low weight is obviously desirable, a balanced bike that serves up plenty of traction is critical to cleaning the climbs without dabbing. It was on these sorts of technical climbs that the Uncle Jimbo really impressed; I’ve ridden shorter travel and lighter bikes, like the 140mm Giant Trance, that didn’t fare as well on these climbs as much as the Rose did.

The steep 75 degree seat angle provides a good position for pushing your weight forward, and keeping the front tire on the ground when you’re scaling steep gradients. The Pike’s travel reduction option proved to be useful on the steeper stuff by lowering the front end and making it easier to keep weight on the front wheel to keep it from wandering. The relatively short wheelbase makes the Rose manageable through tight hairpin bends - one of my favourite trails has a succession of half a dozen switchbacks and the Uncle Jimbo breezed up it, posting impressive times compared to even bikes weighing several pounds less. It’s certainly not a bike for racing to the summit, but it’s no slouch if you’re in a hurry.

The suspension reveals little bob, even with the shock in the middle compression setting. The only caveat is that the Uncle Jimbo definitely favors seated climbing and responds well to a smooth pedalling style. Get out of the saddle and, while the suspension is very well damped, it doesn’t feel as competent as compared to its seated climbing ability. Ramping up the shock compression takes care of matters nicely if you’re an out-of-the-saddle-climber.

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Descending

While the Uncle Jimbo manages the climbs with surprising ability, it’s on the descents that the Rose really shines, as any concerns with its weight quickly disappear when gravity plays it part. With wide bars, short stem and decent suspension, the Rose is quickly up to speed out of the box and I was hitting up faster times on my local trails in no time at all. It’s a very neutral and approachable bike, which just shortens the adjustments and learning curve that accompany a new bike.

Make no mistake, the Uncle Jimbo is a fast bike. It’s right at home on very technical singletrack, the sort of trails I ride a lot. There’s one particular section of trail that's full of very tight turns dotted with tree stumps and trees placed awkwardly on the apexes, and it culminates with a fast right-hand berm. Well, it’s a fast berm if I've managed to carry good speed through the proceeding trees. The Rose displayed all the handling ability and agility to let me hit that berm faster than I’ve been able to on other bikes, highlighting the Uncle Jimbo’s keen acceleration and efficient pedalling.

Into the aforementioned berm and the Uncle Jimbo squats neatly into its travel and the geometry, and wide bars, allow a clean line to be carved all the way through. Though Rose has lengthened it this year, I’d like to see the wheelbase stretched out more on the size large to really help the frame unleash its full potential on really high speed flat-out sections. The closer you push towards those limits, the less the Uncle Jimbo feels comfortable and there’s the odd occasion that it can start to become a little flustered. Rein in the speed or hit up the slower twisty trails with plenty of direction changes, and it instantly feels more at home.

The suspension handles square-edge rocks and ledges well, smothers small bumps with ease and it’s well supported in the middle part of the stroke. Launch it off a jump and it handles heavy landings with aplomb, and I never noticed it bottoming out once. There’s plenty of pop in the bike too; the front wheel is easy to manual, which helps to deal with unexpected obstacles in the trail.


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SRAM Guide's brakes needed new pads to get the best out of them
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Spank's 777mm bars and 50mm stems give the bike a great fit out of the box


Component Check

• Spank Spike bars and stem: With a generously wide 777mm handlebar - which could be cut down if you wanted, but I found the width just right after coming from 750 and 800 on my other bikes, it’s a happy medium. The shape of the bars, the backsweep and rise, felt just right. Combined with the 50mm stem this is a sorted setup from the box.

• SRAM Guide brakes: The Guide brakes have been well received since they launched, but these needed a bit of fettling to get the best out of them. Firstly I needed a dab of Loctite on the lever adjust dial as it had a habit of moving closer to the bar over time. And I also swapped out the pads - they didn't last long in the Welsh grit - and fitted a set of sintered pads. The braking performance after this inexpensive change was dramatic and transformed the bike, so it would be nice to see SRAM address these two issues

• Ergon GE1 Grips: I wasn’t expecting to embrace the Ergon grips with much enthusiasm, being pretty set in my way with grip preferences, but I was pleasantly surprised with how good the tapered shape felt in the hands. Along with the SDG saddle, Rose has nailed the contact points of this bike; everything falls to place nicely.

• Spank Race 28 wheels: Intended for the hard charging riders that will likely gravitate towards the Uncle Jimbo, the Race 28 wheels proved very strong through the test, and despite solidly casing a few landings they’re still perfectly true. They're not the lightest wheels out there, but given their strength and reliability it's easy to overlook a few extra grams.


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Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesThe updated Uncle Jimbo is a huge improvement on the previous bike, with super looks, balanced suspension, good climbing and descending manners, and a top parts package that needs no changes from the box. Plus, with Rose's online configurator you can be sure to tailor the bike just the way you want it. The sizing won't suit all riders, especially taller types, but if you find the numbers an agreeable mix, the Uncle Jimbo is a worthy alternative to the more popular options in this category, a well spec'd bike that's brimming with potential. - David Arthur



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About the Reviewer
David Arthur is a freelance mountain biker writer based in the UK. .Stats: Age: 34 • Height: 5'11:” • Weight: 154lb • Industry affiliations / sponsors: None



121 Comments

  • + 136
 astonishing value
  • + 47
 For real. I had to double take because at first I just assumed that was the framset cost.
  • + 105
 This is how much bikes should cost. Other brands and distributors rip us off for every penny possible.
  • + 31
 I absolutely agree. Things have gotten weird.
  • + 18
 @Taylor500 It's just a different distribution model, and I'm glad that consumers have the choice to buy direct. But i wouldn't say anybody was ripping anybody else off in the dealer model - in fact the direct distribution bike companies pocket more cash by skipping the dealer and their rather significant margin.

So if you think normal bike companies are greedy, Canyon, YT and Rose have just found a smart way of being even more greedy yet still offering a lower price point. Clever and good for themselves and many consumers, but hardly altruistic - just good old fashioned competition.
  • + 41
 I thought everyone was happy paying more than 5k for a bike!!!! No, seriously in a older post I said that we have to push bike companies reduce their prices and I was totally neg propped and every bike nerd motherf..er was trying to convince me that prices are reasonable!
  • + 13
 This direct distribution model is not as bad as you would think, or maybe, the dealer-shop model is not as good. In theory you can see a bike and you can try it, but, how many shops will give you an opportunity to try a bike in real mountains ? Not many, at least in Poland (there are exceptions, but there are limited sizes and models of test bikes). If something wrong happens, what a shop will do ? It may be able to fix something, but typically it will send you fork/shock somewhere anyway.
  • + 14
 Well, a regular salesmodel adds two parties (importer, bikeshop) that basicly just raise the price without any gain.
  • + 6
 @estate Exactly. For anyone with a decent tool box and some repair and maintenance skills there is absolutely no need to go through a bike shop. Going direct is a more efficient and cost effective way of distributing bikes leading to lower prices.

My post above is not apologizing for the dealer model, the only time i set foot in a bike shop is when i need a spare part immediately, but was aimed at the sense of entitlement and lack of basic economic understanding pervasive on these boards. The prices in the dealer model were a result of that model and the numerous parties involved. Now that companies have found a way to increase profits while lowering prices it's hardly a victory for the proletariat forcing the bike industry fat cats to take a smaller cut and buy fewer Ferraris.
  • + 2
 @SiSandro Ok if I go along with the idea of the manufacturer getting increased profit despite decreased prices, then the 'Middle-man' bike shop must have been adding an even bigger mark-up than we had thought. For it to be worth it, they'd have to be adding value to the product.

I think that myself and many others here don't see what that this 'added value' is. For those customers who have no idea what bike to buy and what style of bike suits them, the advice from a shop can be valuable (and was for my first proper bike when I was 15), but if they don't know what they want then I don't believe they should be spending big bucks! Especially since the shop probably isn't stocking their favourite bikes due to exclusive distribution rights that other shops secure.

In summary, a lower cost to me is better for us. More money to the bike manufacturer who actually designed, developed and built the frame is better for them. The money given to the component manufacturers who designed, developed and built the parts we like and want on the bike is up part of the price we pay regardless..
  • + 5
 @Taylor500 sorry but no one is ripping you off. Rose is cheaper because they have a different distribution model so the bike is cheaper thanks to no shop and distributor margin. Please work somewhere in the bike industry and then start complaining (probably about your wage that is suddenly very low!)

Ask around and see how rich shop owners and even bike company owners are. Most of them are much poorer than they would be if they produced anything else. People who work in the bike industry do it out of passion and the constant nagging that the companies are ripping us off is ridiculous. They are producing very high tech expensive products for a very small market so the margins will be high but it's only so they can cover the costs of running their companies.
  • + 7
 @estate the gain is having a shop. When you need a part fast or your bike brakes down in a bike spot you can buy something instantly.

Also someone has to repair your bike. Yes some people do it all by themselves but without shops a ton of service places would not exists. Not to mention there are many good shops that support the local bike community by sponsoring local races and racers.

People easily forget about that but when the local shops will be gone they will start complaining that many things on the local level have become worse.

PS. I'm not a bikeshop worker. Never have been but I apprecieate the good ones.
  • + 1
 100% agreed, to me a bike shop adds no value at all. The only point i've been trying to make is that bike shops and to a lesser extent distributors are part of a rather inefficient and largely useless system that produces these kind of prices. So comparing direct distribution to dealer prices and coming to the conclusion that the bike companies going through dealers are ripping us off is just daft - they are just using an inferior and vastly more expensive distribution model.

The only perceived rip off would be on the side of the shops, who, as you rightly point out, do not add anything of value to somebody who knows what he wants, but still almost double the price of the bike. Brick and mortar stores are just damn expensive to run and i have never seen a bike shop owner in a Porsche.
  • + 2
 I don't quite get the idea of needing a part "fast". I have the usual spare parts in stock, like brakepads, tyres, tubes, cleats and shifter cable. Other parts I can get delivered within two days. Unless I ruin a non spare part just the day before going to an event or breaking my bike like right infront of the shop I dont see any value in them at all.
  • + 10
 @SiSandro that only means you have shitty shops in your area. I know of shops that put a lot of money into local spots, local events.

Also do you service 100% of your gear? Do 100% of your friends do 100% of their service? If not then you use bike shops.

Also if you know what you want do you sponsor local races on your own? Do you sponsor junior racers? If not then yes bike shops add value to people who also know what they want. I think the bike community has become elitist and people think it's "cool" to be smarter than everyone and do everything themselves. It's good but not everyone has time. Hell when I have a work intensive week and I want to take a weekend trip I don't service my bike, i leave it at a shop. When I need a tire fast or I have found my brakepads are worn late i go and visit the shop. Those things happen as much as you would like to pretend they don't.


@estate sorry dude but 2 days when on a trip or 2h before leaving is not acceptable. Also people still need to service their bikes. Yes some of us do it ourselves but there are a lot of people starting in the sport. Without shops it would be way harder for them.


Both of you also come from one common thinking pattern. If a bike shop is not useful for you, it's not useful for anyone. That's a mistake. Many people still use them. Yes many local shops suck but that doesn't mean good ones shouldn't exist.
  • + 0
 It's not about whether they should exist or not. It's about the value they add to a bike they sell. Servicing gears at a bikeshopt is not for free even if you bought your bike there. Same thing for spare parts they're more expensive than an onlineshop. So the point of being able to help people with no knowledge /no time / no tools for repairing/servicing doesnt really count in my opinion. I don't want to rant about the prices they have on spare parts or servicing, thats fine with me. But the price added just for selling a bike comes with no gain.
  • + 4
 It sounds to me like we're pretty much all agreeing here actually!

Yes bike shops are valuable for maintenance/servicing/repairs; No they don't seem valuable for purchasing High-performance, expert-level (expensive) bikes.
  • + 6
 Most former bike industry folk i know get into home renovations/contracting or become a certified plumber or electrician after leaving the bike industry because they now actually have to make enough money to support a wife and kids and pay a mortgage.
  • + 10
 After walking out of a bike shop, having just paid $180 to swap the bearings on my already torn down frame, with bearings i already purchased...I decided Id rather invest in the tools to work on a bike myself(this was a unique experience, the worst bike shop I have ever entered). And I also decided I could find a better bike online from hours of research, and the entire market place available, then some guy doing 20km a week on his recumbent, offering one of the 3 bikes he has that fits me...and trying to convince me they are the best I will find, and then charging me a good old 25-50% above what ill find it for online.
I respect someone trying to make a living fixing and selling bikes...But I am not going to support someone just because of that, when the end result is more money out of my pocket, and a much less satisfying bike under me...

Do it right, buy the tools you need, accept that biking is a part of your life and you need to learn how to work on your own bikes. Check out that bike you where drooling over 3 years ago that is now sitting in the used market for 1/3 the price...or better yet start buying parts and build a custom ride exactly how you want it, still for so much cheaper then a new shop bike.... There will always be a reason to hit up the bike shop, just don't make it every reason!
  • + 5
 Somewhat on a tangent, but the great value drops pretty quickly when shipping to the colonies. Their website says its 319 pounds, or about $500 to get one shipped here.
  • + 1
 @angus-owen This is such a steal! The fork alone is in that price range.. www.rosebikes.com/bike/rose-beef-cake-dh-2013-frame-set/aid:806253
  • + 5
 I like being able to sit on a bike before dropping a lot of money on it. It's one reason I didn't but but the breezer repack. If I had I may get have got a better value, but I won't know until I at least see one in person. Personally I want every shop to have a pump track and mini skills course to test bikes out on. Maybe that will have to happen in order to compete with direct sales. The so where I work wants one but the land lord said no.
  • + 3
 @taletotell demoed the breezer 29er and it was terrible.

But yes, having a pump track or just something would go a long way for LBS to add value to their traditional sales model. There was a bike shop in Lehi that had a short wooden drop-in to a rock garden. Also, many of the Utah Valley bike shops do demo days every saturday at Lambert Park or Big Springs.
  • + 9
 I just priced out their 150mm offering (the Granite Chief). With Pike/Monarch, Reverb, XT brakes (203mm/180), and X01 drive train, that comes to about EUR4000 including shipping to the US. That's pretty damn good value on the face of it. There's no US warranty center, though, much less a local one. So any trouble you have with it will require long periods of time and significant shipping cost.

In contrast - my LBS will help me with warranties if needed, and they'll usually provide a loaner bike to keep me on the trail while my bike is down. Plus they'll provide demo bikes to try before you buy.

The direct model has drawbacks for the customer. If you're super handy and independent and don't need your LBS (and are willing to wait for parts/warranties), yep, this might not be a bad deal. For most people, a good LBS (not just any LBS - there are plenty of them that don't really add much value, as they don't stock enough stuff and are too backed up on repairs to be much use) is a good deal.

All that before we get into the discussion of what else a good LBS brings to your local cycling scene in terms of support for access, trail building, skills clinics, getting new riders started, etc. (which, again, is something that good LBSs do).

Over time, the good LBSs will probably thrive - they're seeing themselves as service businesses, rather than purely as retailers. The bad ones won't. Just like the good direct order business will thrive (by figuring out ways to deliver value, support their customers, support the sport), whereas the bad ones won't.
  • + 3
 I honestly feel like demo fleets are a better value, from a customer perspective, than a shop that has a track behind it. I get to take the bike out, on quality trails, & really get a feel for how it handles. Were I running a bike company, I'd spend money on a demo fleet & employee to run it, before I spent any major coin getting my product into shops. Were I running an online bike store, I'd probably consider running my own demo fleet as well, with employees having the ability to sell people bikes right on the spot, delivered to their door, or if it worked financially, have a second truck coming through a few days after the demo truck, building bikes & delivering them to people.
  • + 2
 Not quite the value as purported though; Building up the Jimbo as reviewed looks to be more like 2600 pounds + 320 to ship here to the states = $4415 BME
Still a great friggin deal though!
  • + 2
 @estate, sounds like you've had some bad shop experiences. Sadly, there are bad shops and there are great shops. As for no added value for buying a new bike at your local shop (assuming its a good shop). Well that's just not true...Most shops will service a new bike bought from their location for a year for free including truing wheels, servicing pivot issues, adjusting drivetrain and brakes. If its some minor issue or its a customer from out of town, my shop will often do a repair/tuneup on the spot. Does an online distributor offer such help? Also, will that direct sales company help you to set up the ergonomics of handlebar? Help properly position your brakes levers? Sure you may know how to do these things but believe me...most of the public have no idea.

And if something breaks on your bike right before that big trip, is that awesome online distribution system gonna be able to get you a loaner ride or pull parts off a new bike on the floor just so you can ride?...my local shop has done that for folks who have bought their bike new there.

What about the rider who isn't sure about the best size frame? What about a person new to the sport? There is so much info on the web these days that its hard to distinguish the good info from the bad. Is that direct sales company gonna be able to help as effectively?

And does the direct sales company have feet on the ground in your community helping to build and maintain trails. One shop employee in my community got "trail builder of the year" at the local annual fat tire meeting.
  • + 0
 @groghunter not all countries have demo days.

@radrider one of the most work intensive months for me is late april and may. That means I can't service my bike in the early season. So even though bike service costs are stupid sometimes they are the only option for me. I don't have time to swap bearings in my frame till the end of the month. Why should I loose 6 weekends of riding just to save 180$.
  • + 16
 I would like to see pinkbike review the rose soul fire freeride bike, off the freeride aint dead vid a few days ago, and a review of some more 180mm travel bikes for that matter,
  • + 10
 Such as the Canyon Torque EX
  • + 5
 throw a banshee darkisde with single crown 180mm into the test,
  • + 2
 Maybe a tr500 built single crown , a voltage fr and an ns soda as well?!
  • + 2
 enduro-mtb.com/en/biketest-the-rose-soul-fire-a-super-enduro Enduro magazine did a review on the soul fire, but pinkbike should definitely more review on frerride bikes! But in Canada and the us most of them got two bikes: one dh rig for the park and one for trail riding. But in Europe we don't have so many parks Frown
  • + 14
 With a name like Jimbo you'd think this would have a + sized wheel
  • + 6
 Yeap, I'd also expect Double Barrel instead of Debonair...
  • - 2
 I didn't expect anything else from what it is. As it's name is Jimbo not Jumbo. Antother reason could be that I already knew the bike Big Grin
  • + 19
 I don't think I could ever own a bike with that name. Just seems weird and wrong to think tell others I'm riding my Uncle. Now if it was named the Cousin Jenny, different story.
  • + 4
 Yes, I also think that people who support animal rights and wildlife protection movements will be put off by the name... this is an immoral reference, Rose bikes should be ashamed of themselves
  • + 6
 They say the Guide brakes have been well received. But isn't the problem with Avid/SRAM that the brakes always work well from new but tend to dissolve after about 12-18 months? I used to defend them until I switched to a pair of XTs and now would never go back.
  • + 2
 The newer SRAM brakes supposedly no longer have that problem. The old ones (Avid brand) had a different reservoir design. The result, apparently, was that they were really nice on modulation/brake feel, but constantly required bleeding (and were a pain in the ass to bleed). The new ones (like these Guide brakes) use a reservoir design that's very similar to what Shimano and the rest of the industry seem to have settled on (and apparently also very similar to older Avid/SRAM brakes before that different design). Time will tell, I guess. I have a pair of SLX brakes (almost as nice as XT, good value) and XT rotors that replaced the Avid brakes that came with my bike. And frankly, now that I've experienced the stopping power and reliability (yay, no constant need to bleed the damn things!), I'd need a lot of positive feedback received on the Guides to convince me to go with them for my next bike.
  • + 2
 Yeh +1 on that judgment, my Avid Elixir 5's on a 2013 bike can't seem to do more than 3or4 rides in wet conditions without needing to be bled again. The sintered pads seem to last that same amount of time. Power and modulation is completely fine though.
  • + 10
 They should have reviewed a Jedi today.
  • + 5
 anyway, may the 4th be with you
  • + 3
 but its the revenge of the 5th today...
  • + 4
 This was one of three direct buys i was checking out. The toss up was this, the commencal meta am and the YT capra. In the end i went with the commencal as i was lucky enough to get a bit of a pedal on one before purchase and there was a sale from the site for the right price. Importing bikes to Aus aint the cheapest, but even with import costs the online deal was still heaps less expensive than the shop.

the bike is f*ing brilliant btw
  • + 3
 haha you sound like 3 months further down the line than me; Those are literally the 3 bikes i'm looking at as well, and someone let me try their Commencal Meta out a few weeks ago too! It felt good!
  • + 3
 Nice! I've been staring at this bike on Rose's website almost every other day for the last few months, desperate trying to find descent reviews.

Mostly i've been trying to decide whether to get a large or XL because im far from being their reccomended >193cm (i'm ~185cm), but the seat tube is only 14mm longer than my current bike and the reach is about the same with a short stem. So thanks for pointing out your thoughts on the wheelbase!
  • + 6
 Going from 26 to 27.5 is upsize in my books, not upgrade. The brainwashing continues...
  • + 3
 Why are German brands such as YT, Canyon, rose etc making frames with shorter top tubes. Most of bikes of this type , Trek, Nukeproof , orange etc are all around 15-20mm longer. Just curious that's all as it doesn't make sense to me
  • + 6
 insane pricing! and i thought YT's can't be beat. loving the 66 HTA vs the more extreme 65. yeah, i suck at climbing, haha!
  • + 2
 Let me start with, this byke seems sick. Good geo, good parts list and a great price. I have one issue with the verbiage in very first paragraph. "And an upgrade to 27.5" wheels." why is 27.5 an upgrade now. No I'm not trying to start the wheel size war again.

My issues are, I was just trying to rebuild a wheel set and none of my lbs in a 2 hr drive radius carried the parts for my 26". a few shops aren' t even carrying 26" bykes. Why can't 26 and 27.5 just get along as equals in a purpose built world and stop trying to replace each other?
  • - 4
flag HariboXXIV (May 4, 2015 at 12:31) (Below Threshold)
 The reason they are called an upgrade is because they are better than 26 inch wheels. for instance: Lower rolling resistance (Depending on which tire you use), easier to go over obstacles (unlike a 26 inch wheel where you could be easily thrown off balance), speedier thanks to the lower rolling resistance and going over obstacles easier. It just seems more fun. Yes, they may be heavier and possibly slightly more expensive but there are many things that are better with a 27.5 inch wheel than there is with a 26 inch wheel. there will still be 26 inch bikes for Freeride and downhill but the majority will possibly be 27.5 inch wheels on bikes very soon.
  • + 8
 27.5 definitely has not been proven to be better than 26 by anybody. Calling it an upgrade is pure marketing. It's mearly another option.
  • + 1
 might look like good value i ordered a 2014 uncle jimbo and the day before ordered i asked how long delivery would take which was 4 weeks which was fine then 3 and a half weeks in no money had been taken so i rang them asking what the hell was going on and was told it would be a further 5 weeks and the half the options id chosen for my bike weren't available anymore so in my eyes their customer service was very poor they weren't for helping in anyway shape or form it was my first time using them and i won't be back
  • + 1
 I'd just like to say..... Look at tesco and wal-mart there is nothing wrong with shopping in those shops we all do it to save money but it's still nice to go into a local village shop and buy stuff and support them... Bike shops are the same!!! I have a good selection of local bike shops in my area and they sell and supply products that they believe work for the consumer not just cause of the deal they've got with what supplier they use! But I do love the look of Bird Bikes they look sick and I like to support the UK bike scene! So warranty wouldn't be a prob in the UK blinding value and a better top tube length
  • + 1
 Seems like a legit bike. I do NOT like where all the cables come out of the headtube, personally. Just not aesthetically pleasing to me. Though it does give me an idea for a sweet headbadge with internal cable ports built in.
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 I will def be looking at a direct ship bike when it's time. Unless everybody else get's their prices correct, I will stop supporting their companies. And yes, if more people buy direct and online some companies might suffer. That is called trimming the fat, of which the bike industry has too much of. I still support my LBS but that is also nearing an end. I just waited 1.5 months for some simple parts that I could have had in a week, had I ordered online. Plus I could have paid half of what I did. The brick and mortar is quickly becoming an obsolete way to buy for me.
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 The only thing international direct distribution sucks for is warranty, and given the rate of reverb and monarch failures that'd be a concern for me.
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 yeah, i really want a canyon DH bike, but until they ship to the USA AND have USA warranty centers, it's just too big a risk
  • + 1
 I can dig it. Will consider if I target a rig with that much travel next time. Insane price, will check the site. But please bring down the shipping costs to 'Murica please. Astronomical!
  • + 2
 I might be being blind and not seeing it in the article or their website, but does anyone know what bottom bracket style is used? Please say threaded.
  • + 1
 Nope - Press fit
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 Would you please stop with the internal wirings? i hate it! it gets more complicated to "do it" yourself to change the rear break and shifters....on the other hand... that is a nice bike :-)
  • + 3
 Wow, is that price a typo or something? Damn, that's a hell of a lot of bike for $2560, better value than YT even.
  • + 2
 The spec list says XT Shifter Pods. The picture showing SRAM's Guide brakes shows them as SLX. Does anybody know which shifters they actually come with?
  • + 1
 Just ordered an Uncle Jimbo 2, changed to Guide brakes, 15cm reverb, XT cassette and XT shifters. Yeahy! Now 7-8 weeks delivery time. Bummer...
  • + 2
 Why am I the only one to mention that this bike is named after a South Park character?
  • + 3
 Wait, did pinkbike really just review a bike that retails under $6000?
  • + 2
 On the subject of great value bikes, I would have expected a review of the on-one codeine on pb by now.
  • + 1
 Had to look it up to verify the name wasn't a joke..
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 i spent more than that for my yeti new and didnt get near the spec list that this has. Bike manufactures, especially ones with established names absolutley rip you off. No doubt about it. I wish i had been more patient.
  • + 9
 But this way you didn't have to change your username.
  • + 1
 yep IronYETI sounds better than IronROSE Smile
  • + 1
 But is it as good as Ironhorse?
  • + 3
 ...should come with free Pig mask.
  • + 2
 $80 a pound. That's good value.
  • + 1
 Counting value of the bike by how many pounds included in the price... Never thought about it that way. I wonder why... Wink
  • + 2
 my vote for best bike name.
  • + 4
 Until there is a bike named "the donkey"
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 is it mentioned anywhere what size he is testing ? i carnt seem to find it
  • + 2
 Says size large in the descending section
  • + 1
 thats a good value for a 14.5kilos bike... almost the wheight of a Downhill rig
  • + 1
 Dropping Specialized and moving to direct sales Canyon has been the best decision ever since I've started riding.
  • + 3
 Uncle Jimbo will fix it.
  • + 2
 this price is SICK !!! oh my !
  • + 1
 Base model Granite Chief w/ a DP Pike upgrade for under $2700 shipped to the US. Pretty reasonable.
  • + 0
 The total for the bike with the build listed above and shipping included is about $3500. Bummer.
  • + 6
 Getting that much bike for $3500, shipped from Europe, isn't my definition of bummer.
  • + 1
 @groghunter yea, the price listed above doesn't match the component build. I built the build above on their website and it was more expensive.
  • + 3
 When you too cheap to recognize true value
  • + 1
 Thank you pinkbike. What a nice bike with a nice price.
  • + 1
 Defently a nice rag but would go for the Radon slide in this pricerange Smile
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 Why are there no YT reveiws on this site if other online direct bikes are?
  • + 1
 I'd love to see a review of the rose unchained on here, cmon pinkbike!
  • + 1
 Does any one have the 2014 model, if so how do you like it?
  • + 1
 Intersting that BB height seems rather high, i bet its very flickable
  • + 1
 is the fork an RCT3 "Solo air" ?
  • + 0
 No that's the shock. The fork is a Pike RCT3...
  • + 2
 @kdstones .. rear shocks aren't availiable with a travel adjust (unless the frame manufacturer has provided this feature).
Solo air is a fork set to a certain amount IE>.160mm travel: dual air is adjustable with a switch on the top of the air spring leg (on the fork!). Just like a fox talas.
RCT3 is the Damper on both of the aforementioned air sprung forks, offering 3 positions of high speed compression with externally adjustable low speed compression and rebound.
  • + 1
 That is quite an incredible value.
  • + 0
 So basically a German Micro Range?
  • - 2
 Rose Uncle "Bronson" Jimbo.
LOL
  • + 24
 Aint that great? For the price of naked SC frame
  • + 5
 It's coming right for us! BAM!
  • + 0
 at that price Rose are surely already sold out Big Grin I didn't plan to buy a new bike, until I just saw this. Just waiting more reviews, wanna see if this thing is really working !
  • + 1
 they look fairly similar although the suspension design is completely different. The Bronson is VPP whereas the UJ is plain and simple good ol' horst link. Oh - and an enormous price difference for what I doubt is a marked difference in performance. I guess it just comes down to personal preference of suspension designs...and wallet size!
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