New Wide Range Drivetrain, Manitou Dirt Jump Fork, and a Dirt Cheap DH Bike - Sea Otter 2018

 Did you guys see that DH Walmart bike?! It's gonna give YT's TUES AL a real run of it's money...... ......maybe not.

 One thing: Commencal will sell you a furious origin for 2700 usd and YT's tues al retails for 2400. They have pretty similar component spec to the wallgoose and i think I can speak for a lot of people saying that I trust Commencal and YT more than I trust Walmart to deliver a good bike.

 @NoahWeimann: everyone also trusts Cannondale and GT to deliver...

 DJ Brandt rides for Mongoose and he fuckin makes me wanna buy one

 @RedBurn: and Chris Akrigg.

 $2500 Mongoose Boot'r versus $2400 YT Tues... no brainer.

 @grant-a: the tues is 2400 euro, not usd. making it about $500 usd more.

 @maxtodamax: nope, 2,400 USD

 @RedBurn: haha thanks dog!

 @peddlepusher15: pleasure is mine keep killing it DJshreda you video for Deity called "Average days" is one of my favourite bike vids !

 @ yep best deal out!!!

 It looks janky as hell though @preach

 Initially I thought Cube's DH rig. The same tiny tubing and flimsy joints. I hope it turns out to be good with that full floater.

 Now we just need to wait to Shimano's new freehub standard

 Be ready Shimano 12 speed is coming next month and new hub standart also )))))

 @shaked: "SRAM is the devil with these new standards" says person who doesn't remember how Shimano widened the freehub and hub spacing on every new set of speeds until 8.

 @groghunter: Plus they came out with a new one for their 11 speed road cassette a few years back.

 I love to see box going up against the giants, but that stuff upshift feel has got to go.

 That cassette body looks like the same design as Sun Race's one for their 10-42 11 speed and 10-50 12 speed cassettes... www.sunrace.com/en/products/detail/hbmx8

 @Fix-the-Spade: But atleast the freehub has the same profile between 10 and 11, so all you need is a spacer to run 10 or 11spd mountain. on them.

 @Kiwi19: if I remember correctly someone actually mentioned in an article a while back that they are using those exact cassettes haha.

 Noticed that too

 that deserves a retraction

 They could just put "Shimano Equipped" like all the Wall Mart bikes?

 Yeah, I thought, maybe the shifter.

Cable maybe?

Saint ferrule?

 That thing is gorgeous.

 yeah, your pickup truck and 200$ pillow.

way better

 @mollow: uhh $8 moving blanket from Harbor Freight?

I’ll give them credit it’s a real neat idea for a truck bed rack

 for 250USD I got a nice cardboard that covers all my tailgate, and it even came with a free low end refrigerator

 @surfhard987: It really is, I think the worst part of tailgate carrying is the wear on lowers and crown, plus the lack of security.

They've reduced cosmetic wear and created a locking mechanism that means no more worrying about your bike getting swiped when you leave it for any more than 5 seconds.

 30 year old inside out Coleman sleeping bag works great.

 @loganbeck: I think i'd prefer something a little nicer for my 2500$ walgoose.

 It is the perfect tailgate rack for my HSV Maloo GTSR

 I was a little surprised by this too. One of the great things about a pickup is how quick you can roll with the bikes in the back. This rack looks super tedious to set up.

 @rrolly: Maybe tedious to set up, but if you are traveling or want to leave your bike in the back of your rig it is pretty sweet. You get the 'cool' tailgate look, but with security. First innovative rack I've seen in a long time.

Me, I'll stick to my hitch rack since I can move it between cars, but still. Cool idea. Price needs to come down on all these racks though.

 @RideTahoe707: you can still prevent theft from a tailgate pad if you have eyehooks in your truck. Buy a big chain and two locks and shove the chain through an inner tube or two. Thief can’t tell from far away your bike is locked , but she is!

 and then I saw that they had gone torx on the hardware, & realized it was because they want to make parts that appeal to absolutely no-one.

 And a long history in the moto game.

 Ye pretty disappointed too. Especially as the new logo and style only makes me think about my DeWalt drill.

 First news of this was seeing machined stems in their booth labelled 'protaper' and was so confused. How do you taper a stem?

 @Balgaroth: Yeah, I thought the Answer styling was pretty cool. This one is easily the worst out there.

 Birtish asking for metric sizing ? woaw that made my day lol

 Thank you! I did all the machining on that frame. What don't you like about the website? An honest opinion could help.

 @NicNasty: Cool! Yeah I've had a Fly and a Mono in the past. So many beautiful details that aren't easy to appreciate until you actually own one.

Website issues? Well for a start it says 2017 all over it. The geo' charts are mostly imperial-only and don't even mention Reach numbers - that's pretty much the most important number regarding a bike's fit (to me, anyway).
The text blurbs are kind of dated in their tone - like "this bike will make your dreams come true" - its very 90's. I'd rather it be more technical in nature; tell me WHY the bike has this geo, why this wheel/tyre size, why make it in aluminium and what riding it's intended for.
I know Brent is dead proud of the manufacture process, but I don't JUST want to see pictures/videos of alu' pieces being welded together. More actual riding media please.
One more thing - pictures of black frames on black backgrounds look rubbish, sorry

 @Balgaroth: so funny. Thought most Brits would be fluent in both. I am

 Ha! Great idea. I was wondering about the same thing.

 but that would mean a new standard (for non dh at least)

 Yes, they should. As long as u can slam the seat way forward(which helps anything less than 75 deg sa)

 Except the manitou damper won't implode or need service every 3 months. And it has a hydraulic bottom out circuit.

 @mullen119: Manitou Sherman everyone loved back in the day, I definitely wouldn't class them as a second rate company.

 And what about 15mm axle, is that the norm when it comes to dirt jump forks now?

 @Startgas: Same bs on the Pike DJ. Let's hope it won't settle with that. Rocking my 20x110 Argyle RCT till it falls apart, I'm not buying 15mm hubs anywhere soon for no bike.

 @mullen119: i agree on the pike. but manitou is placing this fork in the premium dj fork category and that is not where their dj forks have ever been since i started dirt jumping. the circus is a screaming deal for what you get.

 @adrennan:

Circus expert and comp still exist for that segment. This fork is aimed to be a top of the line DJ fork.

@startgas

15mm is what the industry is going with. Other than backwards compatibility, there is little reason to build a 20mm axle fork anymore. Oems don't want it and they drive the market.

 Who actually owns Mountain cycle these days? When they went tits up it was the same scumbag who owned Chumba (and drove them out of business too) but he seems to be long out of the picture with Chumba, so maybe there's hope.

 A look at an original San Andreas with a Suspenders fork and Pro Stop brakes and commentary from RR would be really neat.

 Mountain Cycle was so ahead of its time. I remember the ads in MBA back in the olden days when people read magazines. 4” travel, very reasonable weight, even direct to consumer sales. 20 years too early.

 Nevermind.. floating shock

 same ownership

 Ditto. First 29er to do it

 it's the best looking bike on the show so far.

 I mean 11 speed cassette

 For mountain, no. But for road commuters it could be a lifesaver, literally.

 Personally I thought that mech looked like an old shimano sis mech I had on a cheap mtb in the 80's

 @Madmanspencer: I also like old motorcycles and modern bikes that look vintage. A turner 5 spot with a raw frame and box drivetrain would be my bread and butter.

 really i think it looks super cheep that dh 7 speed looks like a 80s shimano one its prolly the ugliest one to come out in the last 20 years

 The floating suspension design puts it ahead of competition when it comes to looks like

 Torx are better.

 It takes a lot more effort to strip a Torx bolt. I mean, it's still doable, but they last way longer than standard allen heads.

 Good call, should be Torx Plus instead of boring old Torx!