Crestline Bike Co. Announces 2 New eMTBs

Jan 7, 2023 at 20:08
by Crestline Bikes  
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Who doesn't love a cheeky NON DRIVE SIDE shot? (Custom painted example of the RS 50/75)


PRESS RELEASE: Crestline Bike Co.

It's no secret that Crestline Bike Co. is working on an eMTB, so we wanted to release some key information on the bike, or I guess we can sort of say "bikes" that are coming soon. These two performance-focused eMTBs are in essence the same bike, but will be available in two distinctly different configurations.

The RS 75/50 features 175mm of Cascade Components tuned rear travel, paired with a 180mm fork, while the RS 50/75 features 150mm of Cascade Components tuned rear travel, paired with a 160mm fork. The difference in rear travel is possible by combining the use of a flip chip and a stroke adjustment on the rear shock. This opens some other tinker doors for everyone to start thinking about since using only the flip chip with no change to stroke adjusts the long travel bike from 175mm down to 163mm. Geometry is not affected when only adjusting rear travel using the flip chip since the eye-to-eye on the shock remains the same. We'll stop there for now but lots of fun options in store.

The fork is simply an air shaft swap to get your desired travel as one might expect. The battery is fully removable via a small door under the BB area with 2 simple M5 bolts. This small door allowed us to ensure minimal compromise to frame stiffness. We felt this was especially important for a race bike when swapping batteries quickly and easily is important, plus don't forget about folks who just want to keep the laps on laps going!
Details
• Removable 750wh battery
• 500Wh and 625Wh compatibility
• 150mm - 175mm rear travel options
• Size dependent rear wheel & CS lengths
• Bosch CX Race Motor (Limited release)
• 56mm internal diameter straight head tube (no integrated headset!)
• Compatibility for aftermarket reach adjustment +/-5mm with tapered +/-10mm with a dual crown
• Nice high plug-in port for easy charging
• Kiox display integrated into top tube
• Wireless handlebar mini remote
• Wireless drivetrain on all builds
• Weight 50lb-52lb's with (9.1lbs - 750Wh battery)
• Price: TBC ($11k-$13k) Limited build options
• Bikes will be available around 03/03/23 from: Crestline Bike Co. , Worldwide Cyclery and potentially your LBS depending on your location.

This also allows the user the potential to run a variety of battery sizes as Bosch has a 500wh and a 625wh batteries soon to be available for the BES3 smart system. The bike uses the latest Bosch CX-R (race) motor, a minimal Bluetooth remote on the bar, a Kiox computer integrated into the top tube and a system controller hidden away under the top tube. This is the brains of the whole system and can function on its own in the rare case that any of the aforementioned parts fail.

The limited launch edition will ship with the new Race version of the Bosch motor which is less weight than the standard plus has RACE MODE with added overrun.

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System controller

Motor and Battery

The Bosch Performance CX-R motor offers class-leading power and solid range with the 750 Wh battery. All of the first 100 limited bikes will be outfitted with the 750wh battery. That's not to say you can't purchase an aftermarket battery that is smaller. The battery always sits at the lowest possible point in the frame if you remove and re-adjust the rail system, giving the lowest possible center of gravity. Crestline is also working on some battery spacer options that will allow hot swap-able options to run the 500wh, 600wh or 750wh within the same 750wh setting cavity, which will hopefully be available shortly after release of the bikes.

The on / off switch sits under the top tube while a Kiox computer screen sits neatly integrated into the top of the top tube. This shows you a host of selected information including battery percentage (100%-0%) with nice accurate battery readings along with remaining range numbers. A small mini remote sits on the handlebar allowing for quick mode changes, engagement of walk mode and control of your Kiox display unit. This connects to the bike's system controller via Bluetooth to avoid any pesky cables going to your handlebar, or through your handlebars as some brands have done trying to hide them. It should be noted that even if the Bluetooth mini remote battery dies, you will still be able to operate your bike using only the system controller under the top tube, albeit with limited functionality, but you wont be left out in the cold.

The first 100 limited-release and individually numbered bikes come with the Race version of the Bosch CX motor, which is 150g lighter and has the overrun feature in race mode. This means that the motor keeps working a little longer after you stop pedaling. This can be very helpful when trying to get up and over trail obstacles where you have to pause pedaling while climbing technical terrain, and it is actually extremely valuable in a race environment on undulating trails once you come to terms with exactly how it works.

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Neat clean Bluetooth mini-remote
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Bosch CX-Race Motor
Frame Details

With our adjustable travel settings you don't have to be worried you got the wrong bike. Anyone who gets either model of the bike will be able to set the bike up in the longer travel or shorter travel setting, plus we even have a few options in between the two extremes. This means if you move to a new location where your trails are burlier and you want more travel, you can have it! Or vice versa.

We will also be offering aftermarket rear triangles in the future. The 27.5 and 29 rear triangle use the same same linkage. All that changes is chainstay length. 27.5" runs at 443mm and 29" 449mm. The bikes will ship as we feel they should be set up, but we won't stop you from doing whatever you want to, if you don't agree with our recommended setup. People all have unique riding styles and terrain they want to ride, so we want you to be able to set this up exactly as you desire.


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Bikes will be available in the following sizes: RH-2, RH-3, RH-4 (*RH = Rider Height)
• RH-2 will always ship MX (29 front 27.5 rear) on both models RS 75/50 and RS 50/75
• RH-3 will ship MX (29 front 27.5 rear) on the RS 75/50 and 29/29 if purchased setup as an RS 50/75
• RH-4 will always ship as 29/29 on both models RS 75/50 and RS 50/75, for taller riders!

We feel that this format keeps the bikes appropriately balanced by utilizing our ability to have either a 27.5" RT or 29" RT and thus keeping stay lengths nicely in check for all shapes and sizes!

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Recommended sizing chart

In addition to this, our 56mm straight head tube allows you the option to adjust your reach by +/-5mm from stock on all frames sizes. *With available aftermarket headsets. This grants the opportunity for a much more precise fit, and helps to eliminate the issue of riders getting stuck between sizes. Side note: If you plan on throwing a dual crown fork on you'll be able to adjust reach by up to +/- 10mm due to the straight steer tube on a DH fork.

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Limited Edition RS 75/50 Ohlins
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This is a custom painted example of the RS 50/75 (production is very similar and just doesn't have thee color splash top tube)
Geometry

When checking out geometry, please keep in mind the rear wheel size since this can sometimes cause some puzzling, especially when it comes to wheelbase numbers. For example when looking at wheelbase on an RH-3 RS 75/50 and comparing it to an RH-3 50/75, you'll notice the wheelbase is very similar even though HA and a number of other things change pretty substantially. As expected, one might then look for a bigger difference in wheelbase. The reason for no real change on these two is because the one comes with a 27.5 rear wheel and the other a 29" and so that difference in the rear center measurement is what keeps the overall wheelbase similar on both builds.

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RS 75/50 - 175mm Rear Travel / 180mm Fork

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RS 50/75 - 150mm Rear Travel / 160mm Fork

Kinematics - Long Travel Setting
RS 75 50 Kinematics
RS 75/50 - 175mm

Kinematics - Short Travel Setting
RS 50 75 Kinematics
RS 50/75 - 150mm

Timeline and Availability

I think it's safe to start getting excited about the bikes. We have been holding off announcing them for some time since we wanted to do it fairly close to availability. We are on track for our first examples to arrive in March 2023 with an additional batch following approx 60 days behind those and more lined up for later in the year around June/July '23.

We will be sending out an email to everyone who has reached out with questions on availability and/or expressed interest in wanting to purchase a bike. We appreciate your early support and feel it only fair to give you first chance to get one. It should also be noted that all current owners of the Crestline RS 205 VHP DH bike will be given first option to purchase one of the first batch of ebikes. Please reach out to us via crestlinebikes.com, @crestlinebikes, or email info@crestlinebikes.com to get yourself added to the growing wait list or if you are a current RS 205 VHP owner who is interested in adding the ebike to your quiver. Look out for reviews from your favorite media outlets over the next couple of months.


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Lear Miller stepped out from behind the lens to get in on the action for a couple of hits!

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Looks like Josh Woodward, Lear Miller and Troydon, all had fun making shapes while out on the bikes!



Pictures by: Lear Miller
Riders: Josh Woodward, Lear Miller and Troydon


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157 Comments
  • 92 0
 Tell me Santa Cruz's VPP patent expired, without telling me Santa Cruz's VPP patent expired
  • 44 5
 Going to go against Rob Roskopp's opinion and say this bike looks 10000% better than the Unno Mith. Maybe the Mith rides better... I'll never know. Just add a 4 pound hydrogen fuel cell to the Crestline vs a 10 pound 750w battery and you are good to go.
  • 8 3
 Hydrogen fuel cells cost over $200,000 USD per kilogram....
  • 82 0
 @hamncheez: are you saying you don't have 800k for a bicycle power unit?

f*cking poors, man........yuck
  • 14 0
 @hamncheez: so you're saying they shouldn't impact the cost of high-end MTBs much.
  • 6 0
 That's because it's tastefully designed by a dude from SA Smile
  • 11 0
 Couldn't agree more. Unnos look like ass with that huge sail of a seatpost.
  • 3 0
 @NoahColorado: Yes, I was saying that fuel cells are price-appropriate for the latest crop of ebikes.
  • 5 0
 lookes like a SC, priced like a SC
  • 17 0
 The first Unno Dash design was one of the most stunning designs. I really thought if I could ever afford it that it would be my bike. The new gold shaft/sail design is one of the ugliest bikes I've ever seen and I wouldn't ride it for free.
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: lol, that is not correct... fuel itself is 10-15$ a kilo. Fuel cell cars start around $50 000.
  • 1 0
 @crazy-canuck: Citation please?

$200,000/kg is what my University paid for their fuel cells for research.
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: I don't know what you mean by $200 000/kg for fuel cells. I don't doubt their lab setup may have cost that, or simply the cost of the fuel cell required for their use case.
But just like batteries and combustion engines size and use cases affect prices.
Check out the Toyota hydrogen car. That runs off a fuel cell.
www.toyota.com/mirai

You can also buy very basic water electrolysis hydrogen expirment kits on Amazon for under $5000 for educational use.

If your talking a per kg price I would expect that to be referencing the cost of the fuel itself. Hydrogen is a similar price to many fuels with regards to available energy vs cost. Quoted per m³, our labs have purchased it at $1.50/m³ not including delivery cost, tank rental, etc.
All that to say it is scaleable, and while not cheap, certainly more affordable than suggested, though I doubt there could be a use case on a mountain bike... maybe some sort of electric cargo bike where weight and space are less of a concern.
  • 2 0
 @mininhi: Rides like a Crestline ;-)
  • 1 0
 @crazy-canuck: By "fuel Cell" I mean the matrix of material that allows hydrogen to saturate and be stored. This stuff is very expensive, and all these proof of concept cars' MSRP do not reflect the cost of actually producing them.
  • 3 0
 @hamncheez: That does sound expensive. Many current vehicles using hydrogen use a 700bar rated carbon Fibre tank. It sounds like you and/or your university are researching hydrogen storage for use in hydrogen fuel cells.
When speaking of a hydrogen fuel cell, I am strictly referencing the "chamber" in which oxidation takes place and electricity is produced. Certainly experimental versions of fuel cells are pricy by nature, and in the case of what are you are describing, solid-state storage of hydrogen in a hydrogen permeable solid medium would I suspect be expensive. I know nothing about it except that it exists and the hope is to more safely store larger a larger mass of hydrogen at lower pressure.
Sounds like something aimed at aerospace as hydrogen storage is one of the bigger barriers challenging the use of H2 in aircraft.
Anyways, I'm not trying to be a dick, and I'm confident whatever is being done at your University is cutting edge and justifies the cost, but I'm also confident there are cheaper modalities being used by industry for many years.
  • 1 0
 @crazy-canuck: Ah, there is the confusion. You were talking about compressed gas storage, I was talking about solid state storage.
  • 2 0
 @highndry: Plus the new one is made in Asia. Unno was all about "made in Europe/Barcelona" at the begining. Have to say too that there's a video showing they production process in BCN that wasn't very promising, wrapping the bladders instead of laying up in the mould, so much fibre shift and need for sanding (fibre cut on the surface - high stressed area). Botton line, not much into Unno myself.
  • 26 0
 People furious about all Santa Cruz bikes looking the same are going to explode.
  • 14 2
 The first time I rode this bike, I felt comfortable instantly. I've since had the pleasure of spending a fair amount of time on it and the stoke remains high!

The bike wants to accelerate and floats once you're in the air. A true rocket ship! And the amount of adjustability leaves us bike nerds plenty to wrench on to fine-tune geo and on-trail feel.

Side Note: One thing I've learned over the years, you'd be hard-pressed to meet a dude as picky with his bikes as Troydon. It's safe to say he's channeled that into something amazing for all of our benefit. Well done, T! Looking forward to seeing Crestlines out in the wild soon!
  • 7 2
 The bike might ride nicely, but I doubt a 50-52lb bike "floats once you're in the air" unless you mean floating like a boat.
  • 1 0
 @Neechy: guess you will have to try for yourself to know for sure.
  • 8 1
 @r-jesse: We understand you Jesse, in essence, everything floats once in the air. Even a boat! Funny how no one would ever question how a dirt bike floats once in the air. We actually like the additional stability the extra weight brings once you are floating in the air!
  • 1 0
 @Neechy: I mean floats like a butterfly - it’s noticeably lighter feeling in the air than bikes I’ve ridden with nearly the exact same weight and travel specs!
  • 8 1
 @Neechy: Have you ridden a moto? 200lbs floats quite well in the air. Your comment makes no sense if you actually ride and jump bikes.
  • 2 0
 @Neechy: the extra weight of an ebike is less than the variation of the weight of the riders.
  • 14 1
 If a South African the size of a giraffe can shralp and table this thing, so can you! Nice work Troydon and team, cleanest ebike out there
  • 14 4
 eebs: because sometimes you need a little extra power to reach the top of the mountain...or to climb over your ego.

I am currently really amped up over this bike, article, and my second cup of coffee. I already see some great comedy in comments hating on ebikes or watt-ever. Way too many people with pent up energy due to weather.
These Crestline eebs are E-xotic works of art. The attention to detail and sleek design is unmatched. Hands down the cleanest cockpit with a gorgeous integrated display.

With features like adjustable geometry, 750 battery, Bosch motor, integrated display and Cascade link by default, it's clear they put a lot of thought into the design. The big price tag makes sense considering its from a boutique brand and how much more this bike offers compared to other options in the market, it simply outpowers shine of any other emtb option.
It's also really cool to see Crestline working with Cascade for linkage and suspension kinematics before launching a bike, cascade is for once is not an afterthought, it shows they're dedicated to creating the best ride possible. I saw some really sexy sneak peaks of this bike a while back on loamwolf video. The bosch rep seems to be riding this bike, which says a lot considering he could probably pick any of the bosh bikes.

I messaged them pretty early on and was able to get a frame last month. Before buying I asked about the warranty process and they stock all individual parts if unlikely event something broke and it would be easier and less red tape than working with the big companies. They also explained the extent they went to have the frames tested in factories far beyond standard as well as real world thrashing they have done on the frames over the past year.

When I bought the frame it probably cost me close to what a complete big box bike probably would have cost in the current market of everyone dumping their outdated inventory, I gotta say the bike is 1000% worth it. I have been on very few bikes let alone Ebikes that have this active and energetic suspension. The way it pops between sections of trail, boosts off jumps, and stays composed through chunky gnar without feeling dead. Why settle for half-power when a full powered Crestline rides better?

eebs: for when you want to ride like a pro, but don't want to actually train like one.
  • 11 1
 Having seen this in the flesh it’s a very rad bike. Solid geo, clean frame design, nice screen integration. Not to mention Troydon rides more than anyone I know. Rad company doing rad stuff
  • 8 0
 We're getting closer and closer to the front triangle being one solid piece.
  • 8 0
 gonna go ahead and say that thse two are actually better looking than the santa cruz e-bikes
  • 6 3
 I got to swing a leg over one and they are once of the best e-bikes I've ever ridden. Crazy fast and stable at high speed while still feeling quite "poppy" and fun on the trail.

The guys that brought this brand to life are passionate riders who obsessed over the little details that someone who is considering a top end bike would appreciate.
  • 10 21
flag 8a71b4 (Jan 13, 2023 at 8:45) (Below Threshold)
 Except there is nothing about an ebike weight that is poppy lmao. Unless you got Sam Pilgrim levels of fitness, you ain't bunny hopping these things off of anything.
  • 7 1
 @8a71b4: I thought the same. And I rode the Kenevo SL and it plowed and couldn't pop to save my life. Then I rode the heavier Turbo Levo. And it manualled, popped, scandi-ed like no bodies business. I almost forgot I was on an eeb on the descent. I was stunned that the heavier bike could pop better. It's all about suspension and geometry.
  • 2 2
 @8a71b4: So... we're having the 29" wheel discussion all over again?
  • 3 0
 @8a71b4: Did I really have to say relative to other e-bikes?
  • 1 0
 @GregorHayes: And wheelbase. The KSL can feel lively but it's a sled in it's longest / slackest setting.
  • 2 0
 @GregorHayes: had the exact same experience, blew my mind
  • 5 0
 @8a71b4: I used to bunny hop my 50lb Rocky Mtn RMX back in the mid 2000's I'm sure it's relatively easy.
  • 1 0
 I had a similar experience! I was not expecting an e-bike with long travel and full power to ride so light and playful. The back end of the bike is incredibly maneuverable both on the ground and in the air. With minimal effort, I was able to hop and clear small trail features that would have required a lot of effort on other e-bikes. Hopping between lines is a breeze. I have ridden modern analog enduro bikes who are far more dead than this ebike.
  • 4 0
 I love the design of their bikes, and hope they take off. I've had the RS 205 VHP as my desktop for a while now. Wish they had a slightly more scaled down big-duro version of it!
  • 3 0
 Have you seen an RS 205 setup with a shortened stroke, a 12speed drivetrain, a single crown fork and an AXS dropper? There are a few around and Cascade is currently dialing in a 180mm travel link. This might get you where you want to be! Oh, 29" drop outs coming soon too incase you want to run 29/29.
  • 1 0
 @crestline: I haven't, can you point me in the right direction?
  • 3 0
 @shakazulu12: www.instagram.com/p/Ci-kYbWPR39/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link I'll try to get some more links for you but this is one that Liam from WWC built up to give u an idea. The idler pulley placement can be adjusted down when setting it up as a burly enduro bike. This helps the pedal characteristics and also ads clearance for a 12spd setup. Another thing to think about is if you run a reach adjust headset with an external lower cup you can reduce fork travel and still keep your geo in check.
  • 2 0
 @crestline: Dear god. I think it just moved..........
  • 1 0
 @crestline: I'm looking to go the other way - stoked about your Eebs and love the moniker on your site :-) How about an RS205 VHE with a TQ motor - A light weight DH Eeb, Lol that would really float!
  • 3 0
 @GeneralGroovus: As long as you are patient, We've already been tinkering around this idea.
  • 2 0
 @crestline: Thank you! Just the fact that your mission statement/ethos is unapologetic about having fun has me sold.
Looking forward to a Crestline in the garage!
  • 1 0
 @crestline: Been a bit, shot you an email but not sure if it went to spam. Ready to pull the trigger but had some questions if you could PM me here or my email.
  • 4 1
 Finally the announcement!! Been on a Santa Cruz Bullit for 2 years. Was lucky enough to get a Crestline frame from Troydon. Been riding the Crestline for about 2 months now. Gotta say it’s the best ebike I’ve ever ridden!! Super stable bike and the Bosch motor is amazing. Bottomless feeling, can’t say enough of how happy I am with the bike. Crestline did a great job
  • 5 0
 Been riding a test model for a few months. Easily the best Ebike I’ve ever ridden. Amazing suspension feel and adjustability. Solid work Crestline!
  • 3 0
 I am fortunate enough to have one of these in mullet form running a 160 or so rear travel with a 170 fork. Blown away on my first ride because its such a composed bike off the bat. Heavy at 54lbs but somehow that weight isn't felt even on slow sluggish turns. Pops extremely well which is so surprising to me again considering the weight. I can get over drops and still be able to pull the front of the bike even at slow speeds. I told Troydon the other day it feels a lot like my old Decoy which is a heck of a bike with the exception of these low speed corners. In the decoy you feel every bit of the weight.... On this crestline it remains composed somehow!
  • 2 0
 P.S. my bike was a frameup build and didn't exactly get 'light' components fyi
  • 2 0
 Crestline Bike Co. unveiling their new line of Ebikes couldn't have come at a more interesting time, as the industry is buzzing about Specialized's recent layoff of 8% of their staff and the departure of Rob Roskopp from Santa Cruz.

Some will say it's all just a coincidence.
  • 2 0
 The sheer number of bikes that Troydon has owned, tested, and critiqued over the years bodes well for how these ride. Everyone I know with one is stoked. Never thought I’d be in the market for a full power, big battery ebike, but it’s hard to ignore this one.
  • 3 0
 Not to mention the ones he has annihilated.
  • 1 0
 Give yourself to the Dark Side. It is the only way you can save your friends
  • 2 0
 I am lucky enough to have one of the available RH3 frames built up and chose to run it 29/29 because it was what was available and I prefer the roll ability of wagon wheels, but I have ridden it as a mullet as well. Both configurations are honestly pretty mind-blowing. Unbelievably nimble in the chunk and jumps better than any other 29" enduro rig I have owned. I can't ride like Troydon, but having ridden with him I can tell you this bike has NO SPEED LIMIT. That being said, it loves to be ridden hard and climbing on this bike is more fun than I possibly imagined, the power and traction makes every obstacle look just a little different. Nice work Crestline on pushing the limits and creating a whole new level of stoke.
  • 3 1
 I've had this bike on my radar since it was an alloy prototype and hearing the passion and excuses of why it came to be. These guys are like Hennessey and the Venom5, they delivered a product that trumps all others and had a sh!t load of fun in the process. Christ...This is thier first ebike and it's arguably better than any other company to date...and don't get me started with Yeti and Santa Cruz and that shimano sushi slicer motor. It's like a Whiteclaw in Utah with 1.5% alcohol, it's just not up to the task. Yeah the Venom cost 2.7million but the Crestline is definitely cheaper and it'll most likely make you a better rider than all your homies on that group ride, not to mention it won't say Levo, Kenevo or koolade with silly looking water bottles pretending to be a battery.
  • 1 0
 Hopefully they aren't conmen as Hennessey has proven to be over the years. Producing a good prototype is a lot different than running a real business.
  • 2 0
 This bike F*Kn OUT THE GATE shreds. Rode one first time on my favorite trail and had a blast. Then realized I had a bunch of PRs, which is saying something as my current trend has been older and slower. I know the cost of these things is getting out of hand but at least I don’t have to buy a new link and better brakes to get the ride I want, on top of up front cost. Can’t beat the Bosch motor either. Such a sick bike!
  • 3 1
 WTF is going on? I feel like there is first time more of those who praise e-bike in this comment section than those who call this motorcycle!!! You did PB!!! You changed these consumers
  • 1 0
 I have an RS 75/50 coming and I’m super stoked to say the least. It was nabbed on a Pre-Release sale and I have to say Troydon has gone an extra 12 miles to make this a super fun transaction. It will replace another brands EMTB that happens to be going on it’s 5th motor in 1 year. Thanks @crestline, can’t wait to play in the sandbox on this thing!!
  • 3 0
 Show me another ebike with a cockpit as clean as this... These are some of the best eebs i've swung a leg over.
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 And you're one of the best riders we've been fortunate to have swing a leg over the eeb! Cheers bru!
  • 13 12
 Leads with "its no secret..." What the F are you talking about? This is literally the first time Ive ever heard of you Crestline. Sure seems like you and your E bikes are, in fact, a secret.
  • 4 0
 @mikekazimer: This comment can't stop me because I can't read.
  • 1 1
 Bikes look great. Sizing is graded on the unusually large/tall side. Making only 3 sizes, with one of them being for people 6'2" and up... strange. Less than 15% of the population is over 6' tall and you devoted 33% of your sizing options to that demographic.
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 We have riders of 5'4 running the RH-2 in the short setting and have been super happy, especially since the chain stays with the 27.5 rear wheel are nicely balanced for them. The bulk of the bikes we will make will be RH-2 and RH-3 so this might throw off your percentage a touch. Both the founders are over 6ft so we definitely had to make sure they had something to ride too!
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 Actually I am 5'4ish (shrinking) and ride an RH2 with the -5 adjust. I have had a levo in S2, levo SL in Medium, and a Rise in Medium. and this fits perfectly.
The bike shreds, beating my PR's out of the gate. It's true compared to all of the e-bikes I have tried this thing disappears under you when riding, but ITS NOT A TRAIL BIKE!! If you ride fire roads and flow trails look elsewhere.
All these people complaining about the cost of new TOTL ebikes are hilarious. Just go and buy a used one, plenty of options out there.
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 @crestline: that totally makes sense. None of it is a problem for me, I’m 5’9”. I just thought the whole sizing scale was tilted a bit towards the taller side than you usually see. I assumed though that most of your production would be in RH-2 and RH-3, that’s why the percentage I mentioned was referring to sizing options, not actual inventory. Anyway, the bikes look amazing. Hope I can try one out someday.
  • 1 0
 @Sluker: what in the hell are you even talking about? I didn’t mention anything about terrain, or cost…
  • 3 0
 Tell me you like Santa Cruz bikes without telling me you like Santa Cruz bikes...
  • 2 1
 We like ALL bikes! We just wanted to ad some things in that we were hoping for but were not seeing as riders!
  • 2 1
 Congrats to Troydon & crew for getting this out. The attention to detail you guys put into this is amazing. Maye someone will buy it and actually take all your KOMs you have littered about....
  • 1 0
 hahaha, i'm sure tons of peeps are gonna shred these things way harder than that old geezer troydon does!
  • 3 0
 A lot of love poured into this project. Full attention to detail. Sick bike!
  • 3 2
 Can I get an aftermarket link to change the kinematics of my Crestline? I just don't like the leverage curve that the designers of this bike did. I need a different link know anywhere I could get one?
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 We know someone that can help! haha, Jokes aside, taking into account how tunable this platform is, as long as you understand how to engineer it, don't be surprised if you do actually see other options to suit all the different riding styles out in the world. We want everyone to be happy and smiling when riding our bikes!
  • 1 0
 LOL Every single rider shot shows how “easy” a 50-60lb bike flies through the air so effortlessly. I wonder if dirt bikes get airborne so easily because they have a much more powerful gas engine ‍♂️
  • 2 0
 I am so stoked to see some of these bikes on the trails and hopefully me riding one. All I know is that I keep hearing great things about the company.
  • 2 0
 So these appear to be be fairly close interpretations of the Bullit and Heckler?
  • 1 0
 Did I hear someone say "two for the price of one"? ;-)
  • 2 0
 Saw these guy's youtube vids a while back and have been excited to see how it turned out, not bad
  • 5 2
 Congrats Troydon and team. Looks sick!
  • 5 6
 Honestly, everyone should just consume less to drive these genuinely insane prices down. I bought four emtbs from Cannondale with change to spare for the base price of this. I created 4X the happiness for my fam than this bike could create
  • 2 0
 BS, the cheapest full sus is 4500 USD, the one that actually has MTB-worthy components is starting at 6750 USD
  • 11 0
 Statement 1. People should consume less. Statement 2. I bought four Cannondale emtbs.
  • 2 0
 Beautiful looking bike, comes with the Cascade link so you don’t have to spend the extra money to make your bike better!
  • 2 0
 Stunning bikes! Crazy to think I have three OHV bikes in my garage that cost less than these. Combined.
  • 1 0
 Perfect bike for commuting out of VOE to Goodwins on. Around Gregory then back to the 138 to ride that famous Colorado trail.
  • 3 4
 Dear bike co sir, Y this bike cost so much!!?

I buy Radbikes for whole family and take everyone out to get ice cream for less.

Only the road and xc bikes that say sworks on it are worth to pay 10k+ because the sworks makes em go faster.

I go to local mountain fire road and see only Surgeons riding fancy bike. Johnny from Dairy Queen, my friend, he can't afford dis bike. He want to shred too, but he can't. He work at Dairy Queen and make only little money. Why bike company make it only for fancy dentist people?

I want to make a change. I want to tell bike company to make less development and technology an testing on bike. Make it affordable for everyone. Not just for high paying investment banker people. Let Johnny shred too. Let everyone enjoy mountain fire road.

Thanks

Xi J
  • 1 0
 Congrats @crestline and Troydon for an awesome bike, have the privilege to own one and so far, has been the best Ebike I ever own.
  • 1 0
 @crestline: Love what you guys are doing!!! Cant seem to find the info on this, but what's the "stand over" height of the Large?
  • 4 2
 Looks like a "session" Santa Cruz Bullit .
  • 1 0
 not like a heckler?
  • 1 0
 @crestline: I'm hoping better!
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 @chandomtb: We are happy to report with a high level of confidence that you don't need to hope!
  • 3 1
 Wow! These look rad. So many options off one frame… how to choose?
  • 3 1
 Sick azz bikes. But I'm out with those prices...
  • 2 0
 “It’s no secret…”
  • 1 0
 We have not kept this as a secret and many people have been following along since 2021 when we started working on the bikes.
  • 2 0
 @crestline: many people, definitely

maybe the secrecy and anonymity scales cross at -40, like farenheit and celsius...

the bike looks fantastic, i'm down, just amused by the intro.

Size L, I'll scoop it this weekend!
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 @owl-X: haha, makes sense! ;-) glad you like the way it came out though, thanks for that
  • 2 1
 I need this bike. It looks like you can do all kinds of cool jumps with it.
  • 1 1
 Lawsuit from Santa Cruz incoming XD Unless that patent expired or SC Headquarters fell into the ocean during this massive rain storm I don't see this going any other way
  • 1 1
 Are you seriously implying that the people at Crestline would pay huge sums of money to design develop and have a bike manufactured and not think about infringing on a patent held by one of the most well known bike brands?

Are you hard of thinking or something?
  • 2 1
 @justanotherusername: A lawsuit like that has literally happened before. In 2011 Santa Cruz sued Yeti over the new SB6 that they believed infringed on the VPP patent.

Don't be such a dickhead and do some research.
  • 2 0
 @Bobtheguy: 12 years ago, a law suit that was dismissed and brought about because of the broad VVP patent and the belief that it infringed on aspect of IC migration that the Yeti switch design showed?

Here, 12 years later you are saying a start up bike company would design a bike from the very start to infringe on a the giant company that is SC's patent and go through all the trouble of making it without checking?

Oh, and the Outland bikes VPP patent that SC purchased expired around 7 yrs ago.

You are a plonker.
  • 2 0
 @justanotherusername: We like you justanotherusername, you make us smile from ear to ear! Thank you
  • 2 1
 Brakeside shots should be the standard. Who cares about the stupid drivetrain.
  • 2 1
 agreed!
  • 2 0
 Unpopular opinion: non drive shots are mad sexy
  • 1 0
 It looks nice, doesn’t have a Shimano motor, has a wireless remote, top type display. I’d get one if I had any money
  • 1 0
 Its obviously a better than a Santa Cruz right motor! right suspension and right gears just needs a set of magura brakes!
  • 2 0
 Why don't you guys go build your own trails to film?
  • 2 0
 200mm Travel, DC, mullet 500mm reach Ebike please...
  • 1 0
 They say imitation is the highest form of flattery. I’d give it more props if it had some originality to it.
  • 1 0
 they should at least make the top tube kinda the same proportion as the bottom... storage compartment?
  • 1 0
 Sooo, the Ohlins is using the same mudguard as RS? Didn't know the mudguards are multibrand interchangeable.
  • 1 0
 Well spotted! We've been waiting for this comment for days. You're the where's waldo winner! Don't you wish Ohlins made a bolt on mudguard? We do.
  • 9 12
 Kind of amazing: Pinkbike is now basically a portal for commercials. "Press releases" and so-called "First Look" make up 95% of the stuff that appears on these pages.

One wonders if manufacturers pay for this service. We might be literally reading payed commercials!
  • 7 0
 Do you not want to know what's getting released out there? Their reviews are pretty good when they do them but the can't review every bike / product immediately.
  • 1 0
 The ratio of industry fluff to actual bike/product tests on PB is getting pretty crazy these days. PB used to have a lot more reviews than anyone else, now they're pretty much just a bike industry news outlet with an occassional test. If it wasn't for the buy/sell section I wouldn't visit very often.
  • 3 1
 PB is literally here to give us press releases and news you giant turd.
  • 1 0
 @justanotherusername: I hate complaining about free stuff, but don't forget that they scammed a bunch of people on Outside plus subscriptions and swiftly killed off Beta. People here at PB bought those subscriptions for access to bike tests, not van-life and craft beer or whatever Outside is trying to promote.
  • 1 0
 @Glory831Guy: Not aware of any of that, but then there is also precisely zero chance I would ever pay to access an online news / review site, ever, shit for the people that bought said subs though.
  • 2 0
 yikes
  • 2 1
 Awesome press release! Love what you’re doing!
  • 2 1
 Great bike and great company, run by even better people!
  • 1 0
 Just wait for the Blenki promo vids on this thing!
  • 3 2
 What the santacruz
  • 1 1
 Try and tell me that's not a Santa Cruz
  • 3 0
 that's not a Santa Cruz !
  • 1 0
 BEAST OF THE WEAST
  • 1 0
 Very Possibly Patented !
  • 7 9
 We don’t need more ebikes, we need aluminum, external cable routed, enduro and trail bikes.
  • 2 1
 Check out Chromags new bikes, not aluminium but probably exactly what you are looking for.
  • 1 0
 @BikersSwag: yap, the Chromags are cool
  • 2 3
 Sick bikes. Nice work Troydon!
  • 3 3
 Gross
  • 8 8
 50 Lbs of ebike shyt
  • 1 2
 Let me know when they have one in the $7k range...
  • 1 1
 It's a buyer's market..shop around and/or wait 3-6 months. Ot course current stuff is already older technology.
Covid delayed new tech 2 years.
  • 8 11
 I stopped reading after laughing at the price.
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