Easton gave Pinkbike a sneak peek at its 800-millimeter-wide ‘Havoc 35’ oversized handlebar system a while back and we were impressed. Previously, Easton offered a conventional 31.8 millimeter bar in a 750-millimeter width, but when pressed to widen it to 800, its design team was not satisfied with testing results. The Havoc 35 system is based around a bar with a 35-millimeter center section – a step up from the present 31.8 mm standard in strength and stiffness – and it includes a selection of matching CNC-machined stems. Havoc 35 bars are offered in black, silver, orange and green anodized, and natural carbon. All have ample length in the grip area to stack up all the necessary controls – even if the user chooses to lop off a few centimeters from each end. Havoc 35 aluminum bars weigh 300 grams and cost $90 USD. Havoc 35 Carbon bars weigh 220 grams and cost $160. Easton says that Havoc 35 components will begin arriving at your LBS around May.
A Balanced Big BarHavoc 35 bars are available in carbon or aluminum and were created after intensive testing in the laboratory showed without a doubt, that expanding the bar’s center section to 35 mm would make it stronger and stiffer than any modification of a conventional 31.8 mm bar could produce. To ensure a balance between stiffness and comfort, Easton worked closely with Sam Blenkinsop, Cameron Cole and Nico Vouilloz on Lapierre’s International team, and with Kona freerider Graham Agassiz. The collaboration dictated the Havoc 35 handlebar’s complicated internal and external tapers which occur across the transition between the oversized center section and the grip area. In short, Havoc 35 isn’t an old-school DH bar with a larger center section – it’s a ground-up design.
Havoc 35 StemsHavoc 35’s oversized bar dictates that the stems meet the new standards as well. After all, any added stiffness in the bar must be translated to the fork through a stem designed to handle the additional stress. Havoc stems are available in a 190-gram zero-rise, 50mm-length standard stem, or in a dedicated direct-mount version that fits Fox or RockShox DH forks. The 110-gram direct-mount Havoc stem is offset to grip the handlebar with a wider stance – a design element claimed to increase lateral stiffness. Two bolt positions offer either a 45mm or 50mm extension and the direct-mount option drops the centerline of the handlebar 5mm. Both stems are CNC-machined from Easton’s ‘EA90’ aluminum alloy and anodized either black or orange to match Easton’s elite-level DH components. Both stems are priced at $100 USD.
Where the 35mm Handlebar Came FromWith the definition of wide handlebars expanding from the mid 700s to 800 millimeters and beyond, downhill riders are challenging the physical limitations of both materials and the designs of existing bars and stems. Easton ran into this wall as the same trend swept through motocross racing. Easton’s answer was to increase the diameter of the center, clamping area of the handlebar to an unheard-of-at-the-time, 35 millimeters. The MX world balked at first, but three years later, Easton’s oversized bars have been widely adopted among the sport’s elite racers as well as its rank-and-file riders. Now, Easton hopes elite Downhillers will accept the logic of its oversized handlebar system for the same reasons.
Why the 35mm Standard Makes SenseEaston’s reasons for bringing the 35-millimeter handlebar standard to DH cycling may be more compelling. MX handlebar makers probably would have been forced to adopt the oversize standard had the cross-braced bar not been accepted fashion. The cross-brace in effect, was a triangulated reinforcement that took some of the stress from the bar’s center section. Without a cross-brace, there are only three ways to make a handlebar stronger and stiffer: make it thicker, make it from a stronger material, or make it larger in diameter.
The first two options can make only marginal improvements and at a substantial weight penalty. The larger-diameter option is the only one that makes engineering sense because, as the diameter of a structure increases, its stiffness grows exponentially. For this reason, simply jumping from 31.8 to 35 millimeters earns Easton a 21-percent increase in stiffness – and Easton further capitalizes on the larger format’s mechanical advantage by reducing material in key areas. Easton claims its 35-series bars weigh 10-percent less than comparable 31.8 mm bars across the board. In fact, at a full 800 mm wide, the carbon fiber Havoc 35 is the lightest DH bar on the market at only 220 grams.
Easton's carbon fiber havoc 35 bar is said to be the lightest DH handlebar made - and it is a full 800 millimeters wide.
Havoc 35 Carbon Handlebar Specs
-Material: EC90 carbon
-Weight: 210g
-Width: 800mm
-Bend: 9 degree
-Upsweep: 5 degree
-Rise: 20mm
-Clamp Diameter: 35mm
Why Believe Easton?Easton’s history of intensive product testing and meticulous quality control protocol is the high-bar of the cycling industry. It is a poorly-kept secret that event the best bike companies test their components against Easton’s products to establish base-line standards. Easton’s tapered and manipulated aluminum literally reinvented the mountain bike industry, breaking strength-to-weight barriers with its fork tubes, frame tubes, fork steerers and handlebars. Later, when Easton moved on to produce carbon fiber handlebars, its rigorous engineering and testing standards earned widespread trust from hard core riders who had learned from previous experience that carbon was the color of death. There will always be jerks selling shiny turds to trusting fools, but for the most part, Easton raised manufacturing standards so high that even an average handlebar from a no-name maker is pretty darn good.
Is My 31.8 mm, 800mm-Wide Handlebar Unsafe?If it was made by a trustworthy manufacturer, your handlebar is probably safe and sound. Basic engineering, however, dictates that smaller diameter bars made from similar materials will be less rigid and possibly, less strong. If you like your present bar and stem combination, then you have nothing to worry about. If you are looking for a bit more from your bar and stem, then Easton’s ’35 series offers far more potential.
Will Havoc 35 Bars Be More Crashworthy?No way to say for sure, although if Easton’s published numbers are correct, the new Havoc 35 bars should hold up correspondingly better in a crash. Easton (and most other bar makers) states that its bars test strong enough to be pushed right through the bones and flesh of a human without damage (well, to the bar, at least). The worst-case scenario is when you send your bike flipping down the trail on its own. In such events, the impact can do damage that the rider is unaware of. Easton has an in-house inspection and replacement program and encourages its customers to routinely inspect every part on the bike, including its handlebars, for warning signs like bends, cracks or deep abrasions.
Pinkbike's Take: | Havoc 35 bars and stems look stunning on the bike and offer performance enhancements unavailable from the 31.6 mm standard. Easton is a sharp company with a staff who is well connected to racing and riding at the highest levels, so we trust that their claims for the performance of the Havoc 35 system are equally well grounded in science as they are on the dirt. Easton is well aware of the river of tears which will be shed when the gravity crowd hears that yet another industry standard is being implemented. That said, when a company like Easton moves forward with a breakthrough product like Havoc 35, it almost always signals the beginning of the end of the old standard. If 800-millimeter bars are here to stay, then Easton has made the right call. - RC |
Isn't that just great! - so many varieties, I do not know where to start changing
i know some people who struggle with those obstacles without a bike never mind the 800mm bent pipe!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=48rz8udZBmQ
I don't see a problem with this at all, but I'd be amazed if any other companies starts to produce 35mm stuff. It'll be fine as 'that weird Easton size', a novelty for people who fancy specing their bike slightly differently. Nothing wrong with that at all.
It's funny to see a paragraph titled 'Why Believe Easton?'. They're actually one of very few MTB companies who I do believe. If it was Da Bomb producing this stuff, I'd be first to call 'bullsh*t', but when Easton start talking, it's usually worth listening.
I don't understand why people are getting riled up by this new standard. If they don't want it, don't buy it. I like it because for a guy like me (6'5") it would make the wider bars that I need feel stiffer.
2. The 35mm Havoc stem has already failed on another sites bike review, it bent and became unusable after a hard crash.
3. In countries that have actual standards, like the European union, all bars must be tested and meet the same standard. That means that a 25.4mm bar, 31.8mm bar and 35mm bar all have to meet or exceed the same requirements for strength.
4. When you are flying down the trail and look at that fat bar and think "wow, this is so big and strong and stiffer than my old 25.4 bar", in your minds eye it is and that is the only real difference! Reputable stem makers are not going to start cranking out 35mm stuff anytime soo. If Easton jumps of a bridge, why should anyone else? This is not an industry standard, it is an Easton standard.
I know... I'm a dick!
1. You must be very easily impressed as I have absolutely no knowledge of MX other than a little google + common sense. Down the road in a couple years when they only have to make 35mm for all MTN and ROAD and MX their production costs will be reduced significantly. I am a manufacturer and I know a great deal more about production than most people.
2. I never said the standard is bad. Its simply unneccessary and completely unwarranted. And yes, if the stem was beefier the whole system would be stiffer. A chain is only as strong as its weekest link. It doesn't matter how strong or stiff the bar is if the stem its mounted on is feeble!
3. Yes, they do test for stiffness. So do we! This 35mm "standard" is not new, its been on road bikes already for a couple years. We developed a stem and handlebar in 35mm months ago. We've tested it, alongside the Easton bar and the difference in stiffness compared to our existing 808 bars is so small it is considered NEGLEGIBLE. Keep in mind that all the bars regardless of the diameter at the clamp have to taper down to the same 22.2mm section for controls and grips to mount. Where Easton has really nailed it on the head is by making the clamp area of the bar wider, this alone will make the intereface with the bike drastically stiffer, without having to increase diameter at all.
4. Physiological is psychological? I think I'm a sith lord, does that mean I am? Yeah, I probably will own a set myself, well... I do, they are under my desk! I've got lots of test numbers too. Unless you are an engineer they are meaningless to you. And if the industry actually adopts this "standard" and it goes in "fashion" we will be more than happy to jump off the bridge too, but not first, since it is unwarranted.
Clearly I am a dick! What does that make you?
I'm all for the boat-anchor being tough and the right thing on non-direct-mount DH/FR bikes, but what about folks who want to run wide, light bars on AM bikes?
And every time someone complains about a new standard I think to myself and remember how shitty bikes were 14 years ago when I started riding.
Common easton, so something new (not reinventing things that are great as they are!)
when you really look into who Easton are, and their engineering achievements over many decades, you'd realise they don't introduce new products for "fashion" but based on solid engineering
99.9% of riders don't need this stiffer bar. Guarantee that nobody posting on Pinkbike needs it. MTBs are not motos and surely are not motos ridden by the best moto racers on the planet. MTB riders are not the same as the best moto racers on the planet.
Complete fail. A new standard to sell new stuff... not to improve what's existing and weak.
Fail.
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The theory is sound, but it isn't exactly setting the industry on fire, either. Don't worry about a new "standard." For now, it's a couple manufacturers making a niche product that stands on its own. Maybe it'll gain traction down the road, but it'll probably take a while.
How DARE Easton design a handlebar and stem combo that is stronger, stiffer, AND lighter than any other system available!!
Those greedy industry bastards!! Why won't they stop thinking outside the box and advancing technology??
By the sounds of it, and logic would dictate they aren't lying - they are saying that they can make a lighter bar using a 35mm diameter than they can (to their standards) at 31.8mm. It simply is a way to make wide-ass handlebars lighter than they would be at 31.8mm and retain (or increase) stiffness. If you don't want to shell out the cash or support the size change, then by all means stay with your 31.8mm bars as you probably don't care about the reduced weight anyways.
Nowhere does it say that Easton is replacing all bars with this new size in an attempt to drive the industry into a new standard - so stop crying. They are simply offering a lighter (and claimed stronger) alternative for the people demanding wider bars without weight penalty.
It's not a 'new standard'. Its just a 35mm bar/stem combo. Quit the bitching and get on with it - No one is making you convert.
regardless if it is a welcome innovation, it's no industry standard at this point...
This "stem" in green will be like Borats swimming suit
Why not clamp directly to your fork tubes?
Cheers dude!
Sincerely,
Riders around the world.
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I bet you would go on your knees for a free bar and stem from Easton you pussy.