SRAM Introduces New Roam 60 Carbon Wheels

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loaded (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:48)

Negative prop me all you want but is everyone on drugs these days? $1200 gets you a complete set of I9 wheels ( best hub/engagement)

Carbon mtb hoops are a joke unless you are trying to impress all the bros in the bike park parking lot.

I'm not bitching about the price of carbon either as I'm fortunate and do not to have to worry about that... even so I wouldn't waste Donald Trumps money on carbon wheels that just crack and break apart.

The bike industry is seriously in a sad state theses day...

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macross87 (Jul 15, 2017 at 8:48)

Correct me if I am wrong, but every hoop material used will "just crack and break apart" when it hits the stress limit.

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cfriesen (Jul 15, 2017 at 9:48)

@loaded I am wondering if you have ever given carbon rims a try?

What would you like the alternative bike industry to look like?

Today as it is there are lots of options out which is a great thing. If you think cheaper aluminum rims are the best rock that. If you think the most expensive carbon rims are the best rock those.

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RedBurn (Jul 15, 2017 at 10:28) (Below Threshold)

@cfriesen: the joke is that there is no 26

cfriesen (Jul 15, 2017 at 10:42)

@RedBurn: Yes there is. Check this out!

www.lightbicycle.com/26er-Hand-built-Endro-Downhill-carbon-fiber-wheelset-38mm-wide-tubeless-compatible.html

cfriesen (Jul 15, 2017 at 10:45)

@RedBurn: or this one.
www.lightbicycle.com/enduro-downhill-mtb-26er-carbon-rims-38mm-wide-hookless-tubeless-compatible-strongest.html

They are out there.

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seraph (Jul 15, 2017 at 12:10)

Neg prop me if you must, but I9 hubs are absolute garbage. Terrible tiny bearings and horrible sounding pawls. Best bang for your buck is a set of DT350s or Hope Pro 4 Evo.

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MrPink51 (Jul 15, 2017 at 13:01)

@seraph: Second on Hope hubs. I have some Hope Pro 2s that are still the shit after all these years.

mollow (Jul 15, 2017 at 13:30)

Those freewheels tho

cfriesen (Jul 15, 2017 at 13:52)

@seraph: @seraph: I would tend to agree that Hope hubs are a good for the price. Just good not great. I have had the same i9 hubs for 2 years with absolutely no problems. But I have had friends with i9 hubs and they have had to replace bearings a few time. They have put a lot of miles on them in some wet conditions. I can't speak about DT hubs. I have yet to own a set of those.

If you are looking for the best value wheelset I would go with a Light Bicycle rims and a Hope hubs.

dimitree (Jul 15, 2017 at 14:41)

Nailed it...

david-kooi (Jul 15, 2017 at 16:11)

@cfriesen: For one thing, an alternate bike apparel industry would make products whose quality is worth their price. Not $30 'one and done' gloves, nor $150 jank quality shoes.

TimRidesBikes (Jul 15, 2017 at 20:35)

Was just about to comment, "ever heard of i9's?"

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Dhminipinner (Jul 15, 2017 at 20:52)

I think the point everyone is missing is that Sram doesnt expect to sell these wheelsets by themselves. They'll get specced as an option on top end bikes from big manufacturers. And because they have such a hefty price tag the dentists buying the bike will think they're getting a good deal.

HamsterPants (Jul 15, 2017 at 20:52)

I was really stoked on my Ibis carbon rims for the first 242 miles! Not super stoked on the final 6 miles while I nursed a crack hoping they didn't blow up on the way to the car.

Replaced with an aluminum rim (DT 511). Slightly heavier, slightly narrower, MASSIVELY cheaper, more durable, feels about the same.

markg1150 (Jul 16, 2017 at 1:26)

why is it sad? whats wrong with having something diffrent if you like and can afford it. id say thats ace. why is having a industry/sport full of choice a negative? you wanna drive round in a lada as technically it does the job and costs f all?
or use i9s that give some people headches with there free hub racket.
why moan about other peoples choices? i dont get it.

BDKR (Jul 16, 2017 at 2:37)

@macross87: Actually, no! The failure mode of the two materials are rather different.

Aluminum wheels tend to bend long before they break. Carbon wheels tends to just break or shatter!

Never mind that there is an upper limit to desirable stiffness in a wheel.

ferenooo (Jul 16, 2017 at 3:34)

I recently got a Traverse Carbon wheelset and i love it - yes price is price but honestly what is the definition of price - most of the guys hopping around with 3000€ to 5000€ bikes - so what

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Boardlife69 (Jul 16, 2017 at 3:59)

@cfriesen: I don't understand why people haven't figured out that MTB specific bearings are absolute garbage. Next time you need to replace bearings go out and get some SKF or RKB industrial Swiss bearings FFS. You'll never have to replace them again unless your a mud rider from the UK. The best part is when you have your bike up in the stand and give your cranks one good rotation then go make a coffee, take a shit, then read the newspaper and when you come back your wheel still spinning like hell. So much faster than the crap bearings they sell us. Rant over.

PinkyScar (Jul 16, 2017 at 4:38)

Try some single wall Weinmans with twisted and soldered spoke lacing. Smooth ride and easy to lace. Or you can buy Crankbros wheels on sale. Both are superior to Sram product in ride quality and price. Nothing beats Spinergy for looks though.

SlodownU (Jul 16, 2017 at 6:35)

Buy good hubs and build your wheels around them (decent aluminum set). If your going to spend money on hubs, Hadley's ftw. Better than hope and I9. And Lite Bicycle rims are shit. I don't know a single person that hasn't broken them at least twice. You get what you pay for.

DBone95 (Jul 16, 2017 at 6:41)

@loaded - I totally agree. The 2-3 guys/gals that I ride with and have carbon wheels, have wheelsets that are chipping, flaking and look like ballz....... But hey, they're soooo kool cause they're plastic and glue and layed down in China by a 13yr old girl wearing a hairnet and mask. lmao

whatthecraig (Jul 16, 2017 at 7:53)

@Boardlife69: spinning for a long time doesn't necessarily make a good bearing. Using heavier but more appropriate grease can protect a bearing far better but slow it down slightly on the 'spin test', even though a rider couldn't tell a difference.

loaded (Jul 16, 2017 at 8:06)

@cfriesen: is this a serious question? I have owned multiple sets of Envy's, Light Hoops, Reynolds and even Giants own carbon hoops.

They all eventually crack and ruin your day of riding. Forget about the money it's just lame when a cracked rim ruins a fun day of riding.

I will say the carbon hoops made me more "bros" in the lift lines/parking lot but I don't really like people so that's another negative draw back to me.

Anyone that actually "rides" knows all wheels will eventually fail so why spend the money on shit you can't keep alive a little longer with a hammer and vice grips?

And to the I9 haters you just sound jealous... Hadley's and Chris Kings are on par too I just like the comple I9 set for $1200.

For the budget minded you can't beat Hope either... great stuff, afforadable and reliable.

DT hubs are cool but I like looking at stars in the sky not in my hubs.

(For the record Envy does make really nice components, their hoops are just a rip off

And Lights aren't bad I just don't support child labor and their toxic carbon materials dumping (call me a tree hugger but I actually care about or f*cked up planet)

loaded (Jul 16, 2017 at 8:18)

@macross87: right, the point is do you want your spendy ass carbon shit blowing up or a reasonably priced aluminum rim... that is a rethorical question!

rockyjonny (Jul 16, 2017 at 8:22)

@cfriesen: well said

tetonlarry FL (Jul 16, 2017 at 9:26)

Carbon rims make a huge difference. I choose them because the performance/dampening is superior to aluminum. Saying all people buy them just to look cool is not accurate. They are worth the additional premium over aluminum.

loaded (Jul 16, 2017 at 14:23)

@tetonlarry: make a huge difference? I'd say learning how to actually ride your bike, jump, manual and staying fit enough to actually pedal is what makes a real difference.

If you think carbon hoops make a huge difference then I serious doubt you know how to ride. Proper suspension tuning is something that makes a huge difference.

U think Aron Gwin needs carbon hoops to win races?? And don't give me the "he's sponsored so he has to ride them BS"

Carbon hoops are a joke for the price... and again with out sounding like a douche I really don't care what bike parts cost, I ride what makes sense.

FYI to all carbon hoops will not get you more chicks! End of story!

jflb (Jul 16, 2017 at 19:45)

@RedBurn:
no bud.
Give it up.

jling360 (Jul 16, 2017 at 21:00)

@loaded: Don't you ride a carbon fiber Giant Reign?

dirtworks911 (Jul 16, 2017 at 23:03)

Having ridden multiple sets of hubs (including I9, Profile, DT, and Hope) I'd take a set of Project 321 hubs over them all any day of the week.

216 POE and 280 grams. Nothing beats that.

project321.com/product/boost-rear-hub

plorwax (Jul 17, 2017 at 0:42)

@Dhminipinner: exactly!

Scalpel29er (Jul 17, 2017 at 5:00)

@seraph: yeah,I too tried I9 Ultralites last year and they were garbage...spokes came out of tension after every ride,serious drag from the freehub,end caps that wouldn't come off....on Mavic Crossmax XL going on 3 years and they get ridden hard as f*ck,thousands of miles on them,original bearings and freehub...they had to replace the bearings brand new out of the box,then the replacements were just as bad.

loaded (Jul 17, 2017 at 6:55)

@jling360: yeah with carbon bars too... what does that have to do with rims?

Do you have an affinity of comparing apples to oranges?

Oh I also have a carbon fiber roof, bumper/splitters, mirror caps, trunk and diffuser on my M3... does that mean I should have carbon wheels too?

What's your point bro?

jling360 (Jul 17, 2017 at 7:44)

@loaded: My point bro is that you said "...I just don't support child labor and their toxic carbon materials dumping (call me a tree hugger but I actually care about or f*cked up planet)". Obviously you do support it. Get off your high horse and stop preaching. You criticize peoples skills and say they don't know how to ride, yet you are the one cracking all these carbon hoops. Ever think that you are the one that doesn't know how to ride? Take a look at your own skills before you judge others. Most people don't buy carbon rims to try and get chicks, they buy M3s with carbon fiber roofs, bumpers/splitters, mirror caps, trunk and diffusers.

BDKR (Jul 17, 2017 at 8:34)

@jling360: Uhhh..... Where did he say that?

jling360 (Jul 17, 2017 at 8:46)

@BDKR: flag loaded (18 hours ago)

"@cfriesen: is this a serious question? I have owned multiple sets of Envy's, Light Hoops, Reynolds and even Giants own carbon hoops.

They all eventually crack and ruin your day of riding. Forget about the money it's just lame when a cracked rim ruins a fun day of riding.

I will say the carbon hoops made me more "bros" in the lift lines/parking lot but I don't really like people so that's another negative draw back to me.

Anyone that actually "rides" knows all wheels will eventually fail so why spend the money on shit you can't keep alive a little longer with a hammer and vice grips?

And to the I9 haters you just sound jealous... Hadley's and Chris Kings are on par too I just like the comple I9 set for $1200.

For the budget minded you can't beat Hope either... great stuff, afforadable and reliable.

DT hubs are cool but I like looking at stars in the sky not in my hubs.

(For the record Envy does make really nice components, their hoops are just a rip off

And Lights aren't bad I just don't support child labor and their toxic carbon materials dumping (call me a tree hugger but I actually care about or f*cked up planet)"

BDKR (Jul 17, 2017 at 9:09)

@jling360: Ahhh.....

Anyway, I think you guys should really let it go. ;-)

loaded (Jul 17, 2017 at 9:22)

@jling360: agree to disagree... just trying to keep people informed that their hard earned money is better spent in other places.

Flagging me for actually sharing real world knowledge from someone who has spent thousands and thousands on wheels seems crazy but hey so does Donald Trump.

Cheers to all and happy trails, I'm out

loaded (Jul 17, 2017 at 9:25)

@jling360: and TRUST me I know how to ride buddy... I kill it on my grip shift huffy.

See ya in the lift lines, I'll be the guy on a 26" wheeled rim brake rock shox Judy machine!

tetonlarry FL (Jul 19, 2017 at 9:04)

@loaded: I live in jackson, WY where everyone shreds and post consistent top 10 results on any Strava segment that points downhill. Not trying to brag, but telling me I don't know how to ride because I like my Enve's is a little rediculous. I've bent a few aluminum back wheels, but never destroyed one. Never had any damage to a carbon wheel. Smooth and fast all day.

mollow (Jul 19, 2017 at 16:21)

@tetonlarry: so you're telling me your local riders make top 10s on local trails? Unbelievable!
You must be a hell of a rider if you live in the same town as them.

tetonlarry FL (Jul 19, 2017 at 22:22)

@mollow: you misunderstood the sentence. I am posting top ten times personally.

loaded (Jul 20, 2017 at 7:06)

@jling360: haters gonna hate, it's cool... if you ever want to spin donuts with me let me know.

In the mean time I'll "learn" how to ride and stop cracking wheels!

mollow (Jul 20, 2017 at 8:02)

@tetonlarry: oh I see... My bad fast fella

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ibishreddin (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:20)

Lol no one gives a shit

jaame (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:23)

Exactly!

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alpenglow45 (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:15)

$1000 bucks for a set of light-bicycle rims with DT 240s. Lighter and Cheaper. All of my DB wheels have been flawless.

rich-2000 (Jul 15, 2017 at 9:25)

^^^^ this

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mbl77 FL (Jul 15, 2017 at 10:32)

LB rims are the elephant in the room. Thousands of people are riding them and loving them. And most mtb websites and magazines are ignoring them. Scared of upsetting advertisers???

seraph (Jul 15, 2017 at 12:11)

Nextie rims and 350s is a way better deal, especially right now that there's a sale on the rims.

sq225917 (Jul 15, 2017 at 12:24)

@mbl77: Probably, I've been rocking mine two years + now. still never taken a spoke key to them.

WasatchEnduro (Jul 15, 2017 at 16:37)

Unforkingbelievable. Who the hell would waste $1900 on this pos when you can custom build a tricked out wheelset (even carbon) for hundreds less? Also, Santa Cruz's new carbon set is $400 less with a lifetime warranty. i9, dt Swiss, or LB for the win. SRAM fail of the month. Noobs.

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ZachBikess (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:47)

Carbon rims, 28 spokes that all weighs in at 1790 grams and the asking price is 1900$
That's the biggest joke I have ever seen..... I hope people have more common sense then to invest in a set. Ever hear of i9?

jrocksdh (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:55)

need to be closer to 1600 to be exciting.

Ron-C (Jul 15, 2017 at 14:52)

Don't for get: they're "playful". I wish the industry would drop this adjective. For a short chainstay frame? Sure. Now, playful will describe everything from grips, lubricants, to seats.

WasatchEnduro (Jul 15, 2017 at 16:38)

@Ron-C: eye roll the sec I read "playful". Overused term of the decade. Too little too late SRAM. Fail.

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bishopsmike (Jul 15, 2017 at 17:42)

@Ron-C: Hey now, lubricants can be playful.

topherdagopher FL (Jul 15, 2017 at 18:27)

"Confidence Inspiring" irrationally pisses me off as well. It's a generic term that every jabroni drops while describing their bike.

petershaw05 (Jul 16, 2017 at 13:43)

Pretty sure it's 900-1000 for the set

onone26 (Jul 16, 2017 at 19:46)

That's price per front and per rear wheel...@petershaw05:

tehllama (Jul 17, 2017 at 12:00)

@topherdagopher: but it enables you to climb like a goat, and descend like a DH jabroni

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Smokey79 (Jul 15, 2017 at 9:04)

Stans Flow MK3 rims laced to Hope Pro 4 hubs @ a fraction of the cost, sanity restored to the universe

seraph (Jul 15, 2017 at 12:13)

Probably closer to 2000g for the set as well. Not defending the SRAM wheels necessarily, but there's a reason why things are expensive.

Smokey79 (Jul 15, 2017 at 23:25)

Its still only 200g saving overall, 100g per wheel (same kinda figures as tyre choice). Still, go have fun on your $1900 carbon wheelset, enjoy avoiding every rock in the rock garden, your gonna need to

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Brightside (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:16)

Would be interesting to know how many of these 2000 bucks wheelsets are sold. It's hard for me to imagine that many people buy this stuff. The same goes for 11k bikes that aren't really special. Hmm...

joedave (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:48)

Yeah man, right there with you. Blows me away the price of some of these new components.

jrocksdh (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:53)

Mtb is pretty small community...most only buy stuff at discount.

LuvAZ (Jul 15, 2017 at 8:20)

@jrocksdh: well specialized seems to sell out of its sworks models every year sooo ....

charmingbob FL (Jul 15, 2017 at 9:08)

The Trek Session 9.9 retails for $13000 CAD, I've always wondered if anyone actually pays full price for that bike.

getsomesy (Jul 15, 2017 at 9:27)

This is the shit "Dr Bro" rides. You would be amazed at the amount of mid life crisis dueches haunting the trails outside big cities who have opted for their first bike to be a $12,000 mountain bike instead of a Harley.

southoftheborder (Jul 15, 2017 at 11:32)

@jdsusmc: well, PB had to up the price of the products featured in their supposed budget section from $50 to $80, $100 and now $300. I guess the trend in the industry is pretty clear now.

e-loop FL (Jul 15, 2017 at 12:03)

@charmingbob: I know that my cousin has a friend working for trek, and he got one like 70% off.

shmoodiver (Jul 15, 2017 at 13:48)

Nelson NZ is steep and rough, plenty of very high dollar bikes running around here and it's a lot of the community on them not just the Docs and lawyers. I guess there's more of a sense of quality pays.

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philrossnz FL (Jul 15, 2017 at 17:17)

@getsomesy: it is pretty lame hating on people because they have money to burn and buy what they consider quality bikes or components. If I could blow $12k on a bike and not bat an eyelid then I would. Just be greatful for the trickle down of their 2nd hand bikes and parts and the contribution their purchases make to R&D.

southoftheborder (Jul 15, 2017 at 18:35)

@jdsusmc:

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jack-aldred (Jul 15, 2017 at 12:08)

I am very angry at this post. I will be back in a few hours after I have cooled down a bit.

panaphonic (Jul 15, 2017 at 13:14)

Nice move.

daweil (Jul 16, 2017 at 0:06)

Many people here should follow your example

grgsmith (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:12)

1900$ for a wheelset? These wheels like OK but there nothing here that's any better than existing I9 or DT Hubs and Nox rims. Also, 4 cross? Interesting. It's kind of sad that "Double Time" is still only 52 PoE. No wonder they don't advertise the actual engagement.

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endurocat (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:22)

The reazon they came up with that price?
Because of the answers on those pinkbike poll questions ; How much would you be willing to pay for a high end wheelset?

ninjatarian (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:37)

Well according to SRAM, more is better, so they upped the price to $1,900.

dirtworks911 (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:41)

But they are 28 hole now! That's like... as stiff as it comes!

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WayneParsons FL (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:49)

Or for $1600usd you can buy carbon rims that are made in Canada, not China. We Are One Composites.

HenningV1 (Jul 15, 2017 at 8:02)

@dirtworks911: Exactly, I wouldnt know a way to make them stronger than using as many as 28 spikes.

vinay FL (Jul 15, 2017 at 11:40)

4 cross doesn't seem like a new way of lacing wheels, more like a new way of counting.

Agreed, wheel business gone a bit nuts lately. In an age when no one really knows what wheel and axle size will be "common" two years from now, it feels odd to invest this kind of money in a wheelset. At least for people who regularly replace large components (frame, forks etc). I've been reading mentions about 26+ for a while, but it doesn't really seem to take off. I really expect dissimilar wheels to take off within a few years (when UCI drops the ban for competition use), but my guess probably is as good as yours.

I personally prefer to lace something to some decent Shimano hubs and get the spanner out every now and then.

orientdave (Jul 15, 2017 at 9:10)

So, this morning I was re-building / changing up a set of 26 Stans Flow on Hope Pro2 hubs, 32 spokes, 3-cross... have some old Halo Freedom rims to go on Novatec 4-in-ones next.

Nice...
...sense of achievement and engagement in the process. Had a great day. If you never have, why not try. It is a great way to spend some time when a ride is out of the question.

BenPea (Jul 15, 2017 at 13:56)

There lieth the trueth.

steve9train (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:17)

Light bikes 1200USD, in the states and Canada now. Dt240 hubs, uprade to 54t for 100 bucks cdn, why would you get anything else. There like the Honda Civic of the wheel industry.

ibishreddin (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:21)

I agree except about the civic

khakifantastic (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:32)

In for light bicycle. Have some ones I bought second hand on here laced to Chris king and they've done great. For the price I could keep a backup wheelset built lol.

steve9train (Jul 15, 2017 at 8:27)

@ibishreddin: toyota corallo ?

in2falling (Jul 15, 2017 at 8:37)

Light bike carbon rims (31mm inner), Novatec D54x hubs and custom build. They weigh 1850 grams, total cost was $850 and two years and 3K miles later they still ride like new.

adamsemmens (Jul 15, 2017 at 13:25)

Love my light bicycle wheels! I got dt240's laces up to LB rims and they weigh 1550g and cost me £600 and they have dealt with everything from xc trail to dh why would you pay anymore for a spesh wheel set @in2falling:

Sshredder (Jul 15, 2017 at 8:08)

Oh hahaha i thought it was 900 $ pair!
More like 1900$ a pair.
All you get is wheels.

ukr77 (Jul 15, 2017 at 21:55)

Can any wheel builders tell me what the benefit of 4x is? Why can't these big guys just build a normal wheel set. Suck it up and sell us in the fact that 32 spokes are where it's at and it's OK to just squeak over the 1800 gram mark for a 29er. SRams previous RAIL set was absolutely garbage if you shred your 29er hard, unless you like to ovalize your rims and wait 2 months for that special low spoke count rim to show up.

BDKR (Jul 16, 2017 at 2:48)

$1900 is just plain stupid. Seriously, even a thousand is stupid for a set of wheels?

Most people are not capable of riding to, at, or beyond the capabilities of their equipment. That's the territory of racers, MANY OF WHOM DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR STUFF ANYWAY!!!!!

Phucking hell! I could buy a 400 dollar set of not as strong but durable ally wheels then use the rest for a trip to Whistler or Les Get even.

The MTB industry is a great example of conspicuous consumerism gone mad!

dayb127 (Jul 17, 2017 at 16:23)

Any one ever riden the We Are One hoops? Having a set build now by hubsessed.com. Great people there by the way, Dusty is one of a kind.

These wheels offer a 5 year warranty with lifetime 50% off goods "should anything happen" in the future.

Im pairing these with i9's. First carbon set and hoping for the best.

jaame (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:23)

Here we go again. Just what we don't need.

homerjm (Jul 16, 2017 at 0:58)

If your trails are dirty cos you can´t touch any rock or hole, your rims are like your tires,the last for a short period...For me new rim is mandatory every year (rear is 100% I need to buy a new one every year,front maybe survive)I buy a new rim and change some spokes.

ssteel (Jul 17, 2017 at 9:01)

If, IF, they had a world-class high quality hub in the middle of these hoops it might be worth while. However SRAM hubs are not renown for their lack of maintenance or problem-free track record. Seems like a waste to have to rebuild your sweet carbon hoops with a different rear hub (because you will).

getsomesy (Jul 15, 2017 at 9:30)

Lame, so lame to state "double time" rather than state the actual Poe (54?) cmon pinkbike you should be doing more than just passing the note.

mollow (Jul 15, 2017 at 13:40)

Why blame PB on an advertisement article written by SRAM? Ignorant f*ck

grgsmith (Jul 15, 2017 at 15:14)

52 PoE, so not even particularly good.

getsomesy (Aug 20, 2017 at 21:28)

@mollow: pinkbike is responsible for what they publish. they dont have to just publish unfettered adds.
haha fanboy

mollow (Aug 21, 2017 at 14:24)

@getsomesy: yeah, except SRAM published that article you numbf*ck

acali (Jul 15, 2017 at 10:09)

4 cross for 28 spokes? Why?

seraph (Jul 15, 2017 at 12:14)

Straight pull + virtual flange height I imagine.

lucky13p0 (Jul 15, 2017 at 11:32)

Or doing like me, buying some enve m60 wheels for 1100 euro. Brand new with dt swiss 240 hubs. I rode 10 years with aluminium and bought these enve's because I got the chance. I'm very happy with them. I would say I'm in love with them. But paying 2800 euro for a set of wheels? Never! Everybody is doing what he wants. Get of the decals and nobody noticing you are riding with expensive wheels. It's all about the fun. And I rode till last year a gary fisher mtb. A stupid and not stiff mtb. But I got sooooooo much fun with it. Now on a Devinci troy. A good upgrade and still having fun. And don't forget, to enjoy you're ride. Have fun people and continue speaking about 29er's and expensive carbon wheels. ;-) ;-)

mollow (Jul 15, 2017 at 13:38)

So you're bragging about riding carbon wheels on a carbon frame? Congrats champ

lucky13p0 (Jul 15, 2017 at 17:04)

@mollow: Not really braggin. Happy that I got this bike. It cost me a couple of years to build this one. I'm not rich and I used a lot of components in promotion or from a year a go. So nothing special. But I think people are too much talking about components and what other people ride. Just build you're own bike and be happy. And don't watch too much at sponsored bikers. They got everything for free. And if you want something and it's expensive then save some money and buy it. I'm not a professional rider so I don't need the best for everything.

iiman FL (Jul 15, 2017 at 17:39)

lol I bet no one EVER will peel stickers off a pair of Enve wheels

lucky13p0 (Jul 16, 2017 at 5:38)

@ismasan: LOL, no they peel off by themselves.

dimitree (Jul 15, 2017 at 14:43)

Hwavy and expensive. Light bikes are lighter and cheaper with better hubs.

WasatchEnduro (Jul 15, 2017 at 16:45)

So where's the "up-prop all" button for this thread?

squagles (Jul 15, 2017 at 23:23)

Carbon pricing can seriously go pound sand , it's plastic and should be cheaper not way more expensive . Carbon wheels are not lighter / strongler / or better handling then good alu but are much more expensive . Coming from someone who has broken lots of carbon rims imcluding Enve I couldnt give a shit about $2000 wheel sets at this point .

nfa2005 FL (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:27)

oh well, good luck. they might be good in Antarctica on the Banzare Coast till it melts away

Keoke (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:55)

Faster. Tougher. Playful. 26 is better

Sshredder (Jul 15, 2017 at 8:04)

When this price cuts in half again. Ill start looking at carbon.

sevensixtwo (Jul 15, 2017 at 9:39)

I'll get these when I go pick up my padloc grips.

RedBurn (Jul 15, 2017 at 10:29)

Why does PB even post this. Its shit, nobody buys that !!

thestraightline FL (Jul 15, 2017 at 12:47)

We do like to comment though

jankslayer (Jul 15, 2017 at 23:48)

For $1000 / set I would consider these. Nice aluminum or LB rims onto DT hubs are the no brainer choice these days.

jerryhazard (Jul 16, 2017 at 17:23)

Preposterous. how dare they fail to come forward with a new hub width standard for carbon rims. Malarkey.

PinkyScar (Jul 16, 2017 at 20:33)

I still ride Rhyno Lites. Best value to performance and can switch to my 26r with rim brakes if I need to.

jemtrail (Jul 16, 2017 at 9:21)

These will be found for half that price in a year or two.

tigerteeuwen (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:08)

Whats the advantage to asymmetrical rims? My fuel ex came that way way.

privateer-wheels (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:14)

More even spoke tension on the high and low side because bracing angles and spoke lengths on both sides are more equal becuse of the offset. More even sooke tension should yield a stronger and longer lasting wheel.

privateer-wheels (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:18)

And I say high and low side, as in drive/nondrive or viceversa, as usually one side has a much higher tension than the other....
Evey wheel is different but in my experience lately, asym rims bring the low side up to at times 90+% tension of the high side, where a non-asym rim might give you say, 60% in the same wheel.
Mind you these %'s vary, but for illustrative purposes....you get it.

WayneParsons FL (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:52)

Asymmetrical rims show in testing to be weaker on the short side of the wall. The best (strongest) way to build a carbon rim is to have a symmetrical profile with offset drilling.

xblitzkriegx (Jul 15, 2017 at 8:04)

@WayneParsons: Can you please provide a source for your information? I'd like to educate myself.

getsomesy (Jul 15, 2017 at 9:38)

A standard rear dh hub a 64mm FTF dimension and 27.5 symmetrical carbon rim with 170kg spoke tension drive side and 145kgt on the non drive is about a 20% difference. (Carbon speed rim, yes they can run that high)

A hope 142 spaced hub with about a 52?mm FTF and a wtb Asym i35 rim 27.5 has ~100% even tension at 130kgf

I build wheels and have a spoke tensiomter that I have checked this with.

jpcars10s (Jul 15, 2017 at 10:52)

@getsomesy:

Get out. No room for actual real world experience in the PB comment section.

eicca (Jul 16, 2017 at 13:41)

I've spent less on my ENTIRE BIKE than the cost of those wheels.

okavango (Jul 16, 2017 at 13:45)

Still waiting for Bontrager Line Comp $300 wheelset.

fumetsu (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:22)

What's the warranty?

mollow (Jul 15, 2017 at 13:42)

Are you seriously considering buying that?

fumetsu (Jul 16, 2017 at 13:15)

No @mollow:

lywmsuqpon (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:56)

*grabs beer and popcorn*

ekho (Jul 15, 2017 at 9:18)

Zzzz

dj100procentenduro (Jul 15, 2017 at 14:01)

Plus one for the 'ksywa'

goroncy (Jul 18, 2017 at 10:36)

The price is a sad joke.

endurocat (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:12)

Now, every other used carbon wheelset lost all their value.

mikenettleton (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:20)

I dunno, maybe you saw it like I did — at first, I read it as $1000 USD for the set. But that's just for the rear. $900 for just the front. Definitely not threatening the used market or new for that matter. Pass.

greg390 (Jul 15, 2017 at 7:23)

Sorry for that , but too narrow rims.

panaphonic (Jul 15, 2017 at 13:17)

Too wide for me.